User talk:SatyrTN/Archive 8

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/to do full list
Hi Satyr, Looking at the revision history for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/to do full list, I see you (or your bot) is the main editor. (at least recently). I was wondering, is it something you update based on maintenance tags or something? Or can one just manually add any article to it that needs work? I don't really understand these things & don't want to mess it up for the bot, but it'd be nice to have some things on the list as it's empty at the moment. Cheers, -- Beloved Freak  22:32, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, Hon! The bot *used* to update that nightly.  I'm in the middle of a major re-write of the bot's functions, so it hasn't been done in the past couple weeks.  Until the bot gets going again, feel free to update at will! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:11, 15 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, will do! -- Beloved Freak  18:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

NeraBot
Thanks for the comments, I'm trying to get the hang of this bot thing. I will fix my settings. If you see any other problems, please let me know! Thank you so much for your help! Love, Neran e i   (talk) 22:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Request: Re C C Saint Clair Page
Hi, I am very keen to sort out the wikipedia page for C C Saint Clair, I noticed on the history that you were involved in tagging it as in need of editting - would it be possible for you to suggest what needs adding/changing in order for this page to up to standard. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Auntie Lil (talk • contribs) 10:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

To do list bot
Any idea when the Paranormal to do list will be back up. - perfectblue 07:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Warning:Javascript security issue
Hi! I need to inform you that I've protected Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts/Revert tools because it allows users to add code to the javascript of other users. If you are an admin, you are still able to edit it, but if you are not an admin, please copy and paste it into your userspace to continue modifying it. We can set up a message at the old javascript page telling users to change their links. If you need help, please contact me or User:Eagle_101. Thanks, --uǝʌǝs ʎʇɹnoɟʇs 00:40, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Sisters Halloween?
Hi, you completely erased over a decade of history which is relevant to the history of this group and the notability in SF, a mistake? Benjiboi 07:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I assume you mean ? The information I deleted was mostly about San Fran and the earthquake, and then a bunch of info that was highly WP:POV - "enabling the Sisters to add structure to the chaos", "A decade later the City of San Francisco is still struggling to manage any Halloween event", etc.  I tried to keep the key points about our involvement in organizing and running the event(s) and the pertinent references.  Sorry if I took too much out, but I kept running into POV statements and things that weren't directly related to our Sistory... -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  07:58, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Wanted to see where you were coming from, will look to re-adding material in more NPOV way. This was arguably a critical chapter in the Sisters' rise to national prominence beyond just local fame. I believe all those points are absolutely true but POV should be mitigated as appropriate. Benjiboi 13:46, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Help!!!
Can you help me get a copyright tag on this picture or do something so it won't erase, I'm new to editing and uploading pictures on wikipedia. The picture comes of the bio section for Greg Patillo at this site: http://whatisproject.org/Projectsamplebio.htm

or if there is nothing you can do, can you direct me to a place where I can learn about uploading pictures and the restrictions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Luisvmejia (talk • contribs) 23:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Ipswich Town F.C. players FLC
Hey SatyrTN, thanks for your conditional support and comments at the above, I really appreciate you taking the time out to contribute to this usually WP:FOOTBALL dominated theme. There's been a bit of discussion about your comment so I thought I'd let you know that you should pop back when you get a moment and, as they say here in blighty, read all about it...!. Cheers. The Rambling Man 17:08, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Question
Why does the LGBT project feel it is necessary to tag every single episode and character with slight LGBT themes? It seems kind of silly, because how can an episode like "Homer's Phobia" (which was tagged three days after it became an GA) have any kind of importance to the overall topic? That's like The Simpsons WP tagging every single TV show that has ever parodied The Simpsons or every single guest star. Besides, the LGBT project has done absolutely nothing to help clean up or maintain the articles. I can understand why Homer's Phobia was tagged (because the project wants to add an article to the accomplishments section, even though none of the members had anything to with getting it promoted) but why is Waylon Smithers so important? It's quite obvious that you haven't even looked at the article, because its far from being B class. -- Scorpion0422 23:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Fair enough I guess. Smithers is my random character clean up project of the month so I'm going to be cleaning up the article and possibly taking a stab at GA status, so I don't suppose you or anyone in the LGBT project would be willing to help? -- Scorpion0422 01:50, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

LGBT sidebar
Hi Satyr, I'm confused by your having restored Intersexuality to the scope of the LGBT Wikiproject - I thought previous discussions had concluded that the topic should not be included? I've asked about it at WT:LGBT. WjBscribe 17:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No clue why I did that. :) I've reverted it. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Lark Street
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Excirial 06:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Excirial! Thanks for watching out for vandalism!  I added Category:Gay villages to Lark Street specifically because it is a gay village.  Take a look at the article and see if you don't agree.  Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  06:40, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * My apologies. I was already suspecting that there was something wrong when i posted that message on your talk page, as i could see your an established, quality editor. I still reverted it because i suspected this might have been flak (Copy paste) from a previous article. --Excirial 06:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)


 * NP - like I said - thanks for watching out for vandalism! I'm going to put the cat back.  Thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  06:48, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Gene Robinson
Nice Job! Thank you for your revision of Gene Robinson. I meant to get at it and I log on this morning to find it was done. It was almost like The Elves and the Shoemaker. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 19:44, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

FLC
I have List of George Cross recipients list in mind for eventual FL candidacy. The central problem is that there are a very large number of redlinks - although I'm fairly sure of notability, at least for the direct awards - less so for the 1200 awarded medals that could later be exchanged for the GC, although admittedly only ~100 were alive and exchanged medals. The secondary problem is that the list only includes those directly awarded the GC, and not those who exchange their previous gallantry awards for it. Will either of these be a problem? (Sorry to pick on you - I noticed you commenting on some nominations on the FLC page) Thanks, RHB - Talk 21:25, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Intersex

 * ) Dev920 (Have a nice day!) 11:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Categorization
Thanks for your help. :0)--Dia^ 23:32, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

ITMFA
A well meaning admin has deleted this image because he thought there might possibly be a chance that one day in Savage's lifetime he might possibly take it upon himself to perhaps question the propriety of somebody uploading this meme to Wikipedia. Can you perhaps make a new one, with a rainbow logo? There is no copyright attached to letters of the alphabet, so it would be solidly free content. In fact, Savage even suggests people do just that on his website. I made my own, but it's crude and only a half-assed solution. Think you can do better? Jeffpw 08:43, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll see what I can do :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:58, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, honey! Chime in at deletion review, too! Check my contributions to find the page. Jeffpw 15:08, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Check out Image:Itmfa rainbow.png - see what you think :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 16:10, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh Wow!!!!!! you're a peach!! I have to go heal the sick and injured now, but will throw it on my userpage when I next get a free moment!! Thank you so much honey! It's so nice to have a strong man around the house! !!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeffpw (talk • contribs) 16:14, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * If you find one, let me know... =D -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 19:24, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

still problem with the categorization
Sorry to bother you again but I just came across this article Emily Dickinson where the main page is not categorized as LGBT and the talk page is...is that normal?--Dia^ 17:53, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

Classification
I want to again thank you for tagging all of our Illinois pages with the Illinois tag. I was wondering now though, if you would be able to use your bot to start tagging importance? I think we will just make it easy, and tag most everything Low until we can get around to evaluating the important articles. Let me know what you think of this. Thanks!--Kranar drogin 01:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Kranar! To clarify, should the bot check all WikiProject Illinois banners and, if there's no importance already specified, add "importance=low"? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  02:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Yes, I would like the bot to check all articles and to add them to articles that do not have an importance already added. Are you going to check all articles with that template, or will you have the bot check our category like last time with all the categories? Category:Category-Class WikiProject Illinois articles was the one. It doesn't matter to me I guess what you do, but just to go back over. So I can make sure I am clear what I want (since sometimes I am not a very clear typer). Go ahead and add "importance=Low" to all WikiProject Illinois, and if you would just because I can be anal, capitalize the "L" in Low and if its not too hard, can you put it after the class? That second request isn't a big deal if you can't do it. Thanks so much for your hard work in this! I will have a second request once this is completed, to see if you are going to be able to do it. Thanks!--Kranar drogin 02:44, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope you get this before you get going too far with the tagging. There is a couple things I would like to change. First off: Sorry on this, I was just looking over things last night and forgot to message you. Hope you can do these, otherwise can always come back to it. Thanks!--Kranar drogin 23:05, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Category:Cities in Illinois could you rate these as High
 * Category:Villages in Illinois could you rate these as Mid
 * Category:Towns in Illinois could you rate these as Mid
 * Category:Registered Historic Places in Illinois could you rate these as Mid


 * Hi, Kranar! I had a setback on Friday in my coding, but I should be able to get to this in the next day (or three).  I'll run those categories first, then the low importances. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  17:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, awesome! thanks so much for your help.--Kranar drogin 22:57, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Just was wondering if your next attempt was more successful? I know you said you had some problems and was going to try again, but didn't know if you did so on pages I don't watch.--Kranar drogin 02:18, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks so very much! I might need your assistance with another project coming up if you are interested. I need to put geoboxes on all the city, village, etc articles such as Stillman Valley, Illinois as a village and Byron, Illinois as a city. If you feel up to it, let me know.--Kranar drogin 22:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Barnstar!

 * Awesomeness! &lt;runs to add to gallery :) &gt;
 * Give me a couple days, then check in about the geo project. I want to tweak a couple things and make sure the SatyrBot WikiProject Services are working right... :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  01:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

SatyrBot and project tags
I noticed earlier that SatyrBot has been putting importance tags on deleted talk pages, such as Talk:Gonac. I figured I'd let you know in case there's something that can be done about that - you might also want to check its contribs to see if it's created new talk pages for deleted or nonexistent articles whenever it tags things. --Coredesat 02:02, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks like the article Gonac was deleted after the bot retrieved it's list of articles to process. I've done a review of a couple thousand of it's edits and don't see another instance of that happening, so I think it was a run-of-the-mill glitch and not something I can expect to happen.  Thanks for checking! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  02:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually there are many that were created. See Category:Unassessed WikiProject Illinois articles to see what I am talking about. No biggie, just for you to be aware of.--Kranar drogin 02:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Eek. Actually, that is a biggie.  I'll have to see why the article names are messing up like that and adding the "?".  Grumble :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  02:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
 * The bot may not recognize apostrophes for some reason. I'll G8 those when I get the chance, unless another admin beats me to it. --Coredesat 05:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks - I think I've found the error that caused all those and am in the process of debugging it. Many thanks for your help!!!! Sorry for the errors :( -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  05:30, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for the welcome to WP:LGBT (I did decide to join, despite my lack of knowledge on the subject)! And I'd like to say great work to you - I've seen you pop up a number of times at FLC with those subpages! :) Anyway, thanks. •97198 talk  09:06, 31 October 2007 (UTC)


 * ROTFL! FLC goes so slow, I've got two more waiting to go through the process!  Welcome again! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  13:22, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

SatyrBot
Hey Satyr, I've spot checked a good number of the pages tagged Saturday for the AL project. Everything I saw was right. Your add looks fine! The only thing I think I'd do is put on there an example of a to-do list. I know you have linked to a page that talks more in depth about them, but it might help if people don't have to do any work for it - even the work of clicking one wikilink. :) Aleta 23:24, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the idea - I've done just that. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  02:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
{| class="navbox collapsible collapsed" style="text-align: left; border: 0px; margin-top: 0.2em;" ! style="background-color: #CC9966; text-align: center;" |The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter  {| The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XI - November 1, 2007 Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!
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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Kisses,

Miss Julie To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Dev920 know. Delivered on 12:00, 1 November 2007 (UTC).
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Bot almost working
I see you have the bot up and running. It seems that there is some sort of logic problem for a multiline layout of the ChicagoWikiProject. See the following edit.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 14:40, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks, Tony - I've fixed that error in the code. Thanks for catching it and bringing it to my attention! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  15:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Is your question about before or after this fix? It seems like you are going back to before the problem I reported.  It seems to have stopped double tagging.  It does not seem to have run since the fix for multiline layout.  I know of no other problems.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 22:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Right - after this fix :) Let me know if the bot has any problems after the next run (tomorrow night/Saturday morning). -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:12, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This edit October 27 by SatyrBot seems to be a similar problem. If it was a bug (and bug now fixed), are you also planning to fix those "old" edits? Oceanh 21:46, 2 November 2007 (UTC).


 * Hi, Oceanh! I've reviewed the bot's edits from that and the previous day and fixed the 13 errors I found. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  23:06, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Oceanh 23:34, 2 November 2007 (UTC).

To Do List Service
Here are some tags I commonly use that should be incorporated into your list:

Orphan Uncategorized Vagueintro context NPOV-section Notability expert-subject advertisement AFDWarning, Prod, infoboxneeded Talkpage demotion tags FAR, FLRC, Articles under review talk page tags FAC, FLC, GAN

You may want to check the categories that each of these templates is in for other related templates. I think we might like this service. --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 13:31, 2 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, Tony! Thanks for the input!  I've added a bunch of those that weren't already there into the program. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  15:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

NeraBot
Sorry about all of that; AWB wasn't working properly for a long time, and now I've finally got it working. I've been using the Kingbotk plugin, I'll modify the settings accordingly. Regards, Neranei (as NeraBot 21:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC))


 * No prob - thanks for letting me know :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 21:20, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments, things are just starting up again! (Finally!) Please let me know if you come across any other problems. Thanks! Love, Neran e i   (talk) 21:22, 3 November 2007 (UTC) (Actually editing as Neranei)

Indexing talk pages: is it possible?
Hi from the Opera Project! At the moment I'm trying to make our 43 archives more accessible. I've been wondering if there is a way of indexing them based on the TOCs. Do you know if any other project is doing this? Best. -- Kleinzach 01:34, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hm. The only way I know of that that's been done is manually.  You might check with, the owner of .  Or the owner of one of the other talk-page archiving bots, like  who owns .  They might know of something that's being done. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:31, 4 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I'll try them. -- Kleinzach 11:24, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Lesbian article search
Hi, is there a way to find all current articles with lesbian in the title? I'm helping with the lesbian article and want to see what all is created thus far. Benjiboi 01:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Sure! Google search with "site:en.wikipedia.org intitle:lesbian" should do it: -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  01:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Benjiboi 06:55, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Haavisto
LOL, no! I stole the reference from his main page. :) •97198 talk  08:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

You've already got a few, but...

 * Blush! Thanks very much!  Much appreciated! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  14:45, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example Songs
Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example Songs has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --PEJL 20:35, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Sarah Silverman
What on earth does she have to do with LBTG "studies?" I would like to revert this edit, but perhaps you'd care to explain yourself first. Is it because she does a lot of gay jokes; what comedian doesn't make fun of gay people? Or is it because your original research tells you gay people like her? Barbara Streisand and Liza Minelli aren't part of the project (but Judy Garland is!).--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 02:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:WikiProjectBannerShell/Example Songs
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LOTD proposal
You have nominated a recent WP:FLC. There have been two recent proposals to begin a List of the Day feature on the main page, which have both received majorities but have not been approved as overwhelming support sufficient for the main page. WP:LOTDP is a new proposal to try to get the ball rolling based on the original proposal. Voice your thoughts on its talk page.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 21:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Anthony Priddis
LOL! Was going to add someone else (from different paragraph) but got confused with bolded names and added the wrong one! Great to know someone's paying attention! :D •97198 talk  06:39, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Lisa Smedman
Double checking my assessment of this article. Used to be stub, I think it is close to 'B'. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 23:59, 8 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Hm. I wouldn't rate it above start, myself. There's an over-reliance on one source that isn't available online. And 19 references to the one source is probably overkill. It would also be nice to get a full birth date, and perhaps expand the writing section to talk about her work.  Just my thoughts, though :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  00:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * OK. Fair enough. Start class, it is. Cheers! Wassupwestcoast 01:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Link question
What's your concern about the link to the overview page concerning Wikipedian philosophies? - jc37 12:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Mostly my concern was that "dar" and "incl" had both been changed to "Phil". Perhaps the boxes could be changed to say "This editor holds an inclusionist philosophy."?
 * So it's more to do with listing one of those as the abbreviation? or is it that it's blue instead of black? - jc37 14:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Nope - just the abbreviation. I have Incl and Dar on mine, so having "Phil" and "Phil" doesn't make much sense :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  16:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
 * But having incl and inclusionist does? : )
 * How about we look to see if there is another appropriate image or abbreviation for these than just an arbitrary truncation? - jc37 16:31, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * What's wrong with an arbitrary abbreviation? But I'll take a look and see if I see anything that screams "Inclusionist", "Darwinist" and "Deletionist".  Come to look at it, Conflicting Wikipedia philosophies doesn't even include Darwinism. Or even Deletionism or Inclusionism! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  01:54, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Nine Inch Nails at FLC (again)
Thanks so much for your comments on the previous FLC for the Nine Inch Nails discography. Unfortunately the FLC failed since I just didn't have enough time to address the issues raised, but I have since had a bit more free time, and have addressed the problems and have resubmitted the article for Featured List status. I would very much appreciate if you could give the article another look and let me know what you think on its new FLC page. Thanks! Drewcifer 05:21, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Queer turkeys
It's November, the LGBT newsletter is coming out sooner than I would wish for (ah, the joys of procrastination!) and I need a very gay turkey to close it out. Feel up to the task??? Feel free to use your imagination. By the way, I'm channeling Julie the cruise director from Love Boat to write this sucker. I think she took too much coke while she was writing it. I'll let you see it when I'm done. Jeffpw 19:54, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * User:Jeffpw/sandbox Jeffpw 21:06, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
 * let's put this sucker to bed, big boy...and by the way, if Foghorn Leghorn could see your turkey, he'd turn queer in a heartbeat! Thanks bunches! Jeffpw 13:11, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Statross le Magnifique
Did you look at the picture? Cleduc 01:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I think it's stretching it to say that looking at a picture is "original research." I guess I've been trained by so many people saying "wny do you have to harp on the sexuality, blah blah blah" that I tend to leave the screamingly obvious unstated. However, an existing source now provides confirmation. Cleduc 02:17, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I have now officially been recruited. BTW, how gay am I?  I am going to see Liza Minnelli tonight, and Kathy Griffin on Friday night.  Cheers, Cleduc 02:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

FYI
See User talk:SatyrBot/WikiProject new pages --  ALLSTAR    ECHO  02:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Removing WikiProject banners
The original placement of the banner was dubious at best. This isn't a character whose gender identity differed from the body in which they were born; this is a supervillain whose brain was placed in the body of a woman for nefarious purposes. The very notion of including this under a LGBT banner makes a mockery of real life issues pertaining to transgender. --Plangent 08:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * As I understand it, the person who originally placed the tag was dubious about doing so. But if you or people from the project can guarantee me that some editors are going to want work on the article from the POV of how transgender issues are covered in comics (for example), then I will not remove the banner if it is replaced again.  But to be honest, come the day that the seminal work on transgenderism in popular fiction is written, my feeling is that a character whose key defining attribute is transplanting his brain into different vessels in order to further his villainous schemes would only merit a brief mention. It's not seriously comparable with, say, Lord Fanny.  Or even Princess Ozma, for that matter. --Plangent 15:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Sa'atyr
Saaaatyr... *hugs* ... um, this doesn't actually do anything. Only admins can actually turn full or semi protection on or off. You just took down the visual cue that lets people know the page is semi-protected. Requests can be made at WP:RFPP. I'll do this one.

=p ··coe l acan 14:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Featured List of the Day Experiment
I am contacting individuals in the order of the number of featured lists that they had created by Novemeber 10, 2007. You have created several. So you are among the first. There have been a series of proposals to initiate a Featured List of the Day on the main page. Numerous proposals have been put forth. After the third one failed, I audited all WP:FL's in order to begin an experiment in my own user space that will hopefully get it going. Today, it commences at WP:LOTD. Afterwards I created my experimental page, a new proposal was set forth to do a featured list that is strikingly similar to my own which is to do a user page experimental featured list, but no format has been confirmed and mechanism set in place. I continue to be willing to do the experiment myself and with this posting it commences. Please submit any list that you would like to have considered for list of the day in the month of January 2008 by the end of this month to WP:LOTD and its subpages. You may submit multiple lists for consideration.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:LOTD) 17:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Reliable Source
As far as I'm concerned, it's reliable. It seems to be a pretty serious article written for New Grove II, the second edition of the New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians and the publication as a whole seems to be considered reliable. The article [http://www.rem.ufpr.br/REMv7/Brett_Wood/Brett_and_Wood.html#XII. cites its own sources], and as for the single passing name-mentions, IMO they're just summarizing [to quote in (eg.) Charles Wuorinen's case] "how very considerable the homosexual presence has been in 20th century Western music..." Thoughts? •97198 talk  07:06, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * We could cite the book, but as you said we (a) don't actually have the book and (b) can't be sure whether it has its facts straight. As with Wuorinen, if there are no supporting sources available and NNDB list his sexual orientation as straight - not that NNDB is completely reliable - maybe we should remove him. Maybe we should just take the people listed as "suggestions" - try to find other supporting (reliable) sources and de-list everyone without another source? •97198 talk  23:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks for that. You really are a legend! :) •<font color="#FF3300" face="century gothic">97198 <font color="#000000" face="century gothic">talk  23:55, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * &lt;Blush&gt; Tks :) Benjiboi, now, Sie is a legend!  Have you seen Fruit (slang)!?!? OMG! :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  00:00, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wow, that is one nice article. Looks like we have a couple of legends on our hands! •<font color="#FF3300" face="century gothic">97198 <font color="#000000" face="century gothic">talk  00:06, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Census-designated place issue
Hi there, I just posted a long-winded proposal to the Wikiproject New Hampshire discussion page. Would you mind looking at it and commenting? Thanks. Ken Gallager (talk) 20:21, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Request
Will try my hardest! :) •<font color="#FF3300" face="century gothic">97198 <font color="#000000" face="century gothic">talk  07:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

On another note...
... a few days ago I added Katherine Brooks (lesbian film director) to the requested articles heading at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject LGBT studies/to do short list - silly me, it's updated daily by your bot! Do you know where I can post this request so that it would feature there, or recommend anything else? Thanks! :D •<font color="#FF3300" face="century gothic">97198 <font color="#000000" face="century gothic">talk  05:53, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Great, thanks! •<font color="#FF3300" face="century gothic">97198 <font color="#000000" face="century gothic">talk  09:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

New
User:Kdogg36, possible new member of WikiProject LGBT studies? He created Equality Maryland and has been active in several LGBT related articles. I didn't see his name on the member list. --  ALLSTAR    ECHO  16:13, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, then - Be Bold, Beautiful! ;) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Done! ;) --  ALLSTAR    ECHO  04:57, 22 November 2007 (UTC)

Small world...
Remeber yesterday when you left me a comment on my talk page? Well today I came across something I wanted to edit the Chris Crocker page but couldn't because of an edit dispute, and you are one of the people listed as commenting on it. :-) Wikipedia community feels really small today. :-) ZacBowlingtalk 23:07, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, the biggest number of edits have been done anonymously because of fear of conflicts of interest with my employers since I'm in the public eye there and they would probably wouldn't want to be associated with some of the topics I edit here. :-) ZacBowlingtalk 23:41, 23 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Are you the programmer a quick google search pulls up? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 02:16, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

r family
OK, Ref 10 did check out, in spite of what the anon said. So we've checked and fixed everything he crabbed about. Think we need to check them all? Jeffpw (talk) 23:23, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I deleted that section from our LGBT talk page, since the anon IP checks out as the same one who has been stalking Benjiboi. See Talk:Hot House Entertainment to match the IP addy. If you think I did wrong to delete the discussion from a stalker, please feel free to revert me. Jeffpw (talk) 00:05, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Project Paranormal bot
An chance that you could put the Project Paranormal bot back online as it was a really useful tool. The project was so much the better for having it. - perfectblue (talk) 12:21, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Papazón
Hmmm, I can't seem to find anything either. Let me try to ping some Mexican users from the Spanish project, see if they can shed any light on this one. Cheers! ;-) Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  13:12, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Your bot request
Hi SatyrTN I wanted to let you know that Bots/Requests for approval/SatyrBot 3 has been approved. Please visit the above link for more information. Thanks! BAGBot (talk) 16:56, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Many thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 17:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Violence against LGBT people
Just in time to improve the holiday spirit for the LGBT community. I just added this: Gay bashing increased to 16% in 2006, from 14% in 2005. See: The FBI crime report for 2006 that just came out last week in Violence against LGBT people. But the reason for this comment is that the whole article seems to need additional sourcing, although it's not tagged. Where do I place such an article that doesn't appear to have quite the right category in our TO-DO list, since it's has some citations, rather than none. If it was just a few, I would add them myself, but it looks like a lot of work is needed and will take too much time for one person. Or am I wrong? And should this comment have been posted on the project talk page? Still feeling my way around in the dark. :-) Comments and suggestions always welcome, BTW. Happy belated Thanksgiving. — Becksguy (talk) 03:51, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How about or  ? -- Orange Mike   |  Talk  03:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just what I was going to suggest, Orangemike! SatyrBot reviews all articles with our banner on them and creates the "to do list" from there, so if you add unreferenced, refimprove, unreferenced-sect, or refimprovesect, the article will show up on our list.  Take a look at WP:TC for an idea of what templates say what.
 * BTW, congrats, OM - aren't you a mop holder now? If you ever want a fancy mop and bucket let me know :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:05, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not eligible, I don't think; friend of the community, but not a member (what was called "wise", pre-Stonewall). -- Orange Mike  |  Talk  04:09, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Don't be silly! Anyone can wear orange, right?  And who wouldn't love a gem-encrusted bucket!?!? LOL! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, done. I see that refimprove tag with the tl prefix is a bit easier than using the html nowiki tag in comments. I also see that other's have SatyrTN's talk page watched. Hmmmm.... Me too, including several other editors where the action seems to happen. Yes, the LGBT group's talk page also. Blue is my favorite color, but orange is great, and my next favorite. I just looked at the glitter bucket image, and I'm having second thoughts now.... JK. — Becksguy (talk) 05:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * That has to be the gayest bucket ever! --  ALLSTAR  echo  05:26, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Second thoughts about what - your favorite color? To be fair, only one person has ever been given the Rainbow Mop and Glitter Bucket... :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  05:30, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh my god, Satyr! That mop and bucket are almost enough to make me want to be an admin...almost. If you throw in a tiara, I just might be persuaded. Jeffpw (talk) 05:31, 26 November 2007 (UTC)


 * You know, when I made those, I really wanted to add a tiara - something like this one would be lovely as an admin, don't you think? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * LMAO! --  ALLSTAR  echo  05:41, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, that would certainly compliment any outfit in my wardrobe. Though I have to admit I would have preferred it in hot pink. Jeffpw (talk) 06:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Template:WikiProject Philadelphia
Can you check out Template talk:WikiProject Philadelphia?

All the best, --evrik (talk) 21:10, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Requested articles
Hello. Right, the prodding could be pov but prod is a standard procedure and sine noone objected.... I am copying the content here, see what you can do. Regards. --Tone 12:30, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Moved userfied content to: User:SatyrTN/Next, User:SatyrTN/HX, User:SatyrTN/New York Blade. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 14:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

SatyrBot idea
I just stumbled across User:SatyrBot/WikiProject to do lists, and it would be helpful to be able to add redirects and deleted articles to your list. I've run across a few instances where an article is deleted and merged/redirected, but the WikiProject banner remains on the talk page, falsely adding one to the Stub-Class count. It would be useful to have the ability to quickly identify such pages so the banners can be removed.  Pagra shtak  20:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah hah - that *is* a good idea! I'll do some testing tonight and try to add that to it's functions.  Many thanks! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  20:13, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Excellent, looking forward to it.  Pagra shtak  20:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

User:SatyrBot
I would like to see the source code for this bot, if that is possible. If not, just the current task, as that would be greatly appreciated. <tt>&lt; DREAMAFTER &gt;&lt; TALK &gt;</tt> 23:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ya, e-mail is fine! <tt>&lt; DREAMAFTER &gt;&lt; TALK &gt;</tt> 23:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Adminship
<div class="boilerplate metadata" id="rfa" style="margin: 0 5%; padding: 0 7px 7px 7px; background: #FFFAEF; border: 1px solid #999999; text-align: left; font-size:95%;"> Dreamafter would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Dreamafter to accept or decline the nomination. A page has been created for your nomination at Requests for adminship/. If you accept the nomination, you must formally state and sign your acceptance and answer the questions on that page. Once you have answered the questions, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so.
 * And you've got at least one other vote if you do choose to run. John Carter (talk) 00:44, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Mine too. — Becksguy (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Umm. Hmm.  Let me think about it? -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  01:03, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely! <tt>&lt; DREAMAFTER &gt;&lt; TALK &gt;</tt> 01:52, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

FLCs
I just wanted to say thanks for adding comments to various FLCs. I know it can be a tiring and tedious job, but your comments are appreciated.


 * Why thank you!! I'm doing it for entirely selfish reasons - I figure if I comment on others' FLCs, they'll comment on mine and mine will close quicker! :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Illinois geoboxes
The boxes are not rendering properly, for example, the dot for McCullom Lake, Illinois is not located in Illinois at all. RyanGerbil10 (Говорить!) 22:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I will echo the sentiment Brooklyn, Illinois is about 30 miles south of where it should be. I have used the geoboxes on other states and they are pretty accurate.  I suspect the base map is not calibrated correctly. Americasroof (talk) 22:22, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks - I've alerted the member of the WikiProject that's been working with me and will leave a message on the project talk page. I also suspect the map calibration, but I'm checking to make sure. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  22:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * One other note: zip code and area code came over as XXX. While that might be accurate for Brooklyn which has a reputation of more porn stores than residents, I don't think that's probably what was intended ;-).  Americasroof (talk) 23:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks - it was actually intended :) See User:SatyrBot/Current project for our discussion on that.  -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  23:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
 * In the for what it's worth department, I replaced "Illinois - outline map.svg" and "Illinois - background map.png" with the standard Illinois Locator Map.PNG and it works fine. I quite frankly that the .svg and background map looked sorta ugly and not the usual pretty wikipedia official pastels.  And for good measure, I'm not entirely certain why there's a geobox crawling some locations and an infobox settlement crawling others.  Thanks again.  Americasroof (talk) 23:11, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Because everything is still in the works, we are in the process of changing stuff over if you would have just been patient. Anyways, Satyr, Dual responded to your question on the Illinois Project. Something was wrong with the maps, so if you could change them how Dual said, then we should have the GPS stuff fixed. Be back later, thanks.--Kranar drogin (talk) 00:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Templates as content
That is actually a rather recent addition (November 14) that doesn't seem to have really been discussed anywhere. I have removed it for the time being, if only so it can be properly discussed. Circeus (talk) 21:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * While it does remove the necessity for an actual template, the transclusion is still present and give that this form is rarer than template, this scheme is likely to be more confusing to those that never saw it (which is why, although I knew about it, I did not suggest that technique). Also, slashes do not create subpages in articlespace: "List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people/lede" is an article just like "List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sa-Sc" is! You could possibly try transcluding List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people itself, with the help of and, but that is still pretty much the same can of worm. Circeus (talk) 21:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)


 * In short, the only thing it changes is transcluding from Articlespace instead of the template namespace. All other problems are still present, and new ones show up. Circeus (talk) 16:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually transclusion of content form mainspace is a) confusing to new and old editors alike, b) an arcane aspect of wikitext, c) addition of extra, unnecessary barriers to editing. It is also easier to break several pages by poor/accidental edition of the inclusion tags in the main list.
 * The main reason templates are used are either because the wikitext is overly long for the visible result (cf. the national sports team template, and the flag or language icons) or contains a lot of complex wikicode (cf. navigational templates and infoboxes), and content templates do not help with either of these aspects, in addition to creating a host of new concerns. Circeus (talk) 20:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * How about we copy this (appropriately reformatted) discussion to a Centralized discussion and post requests for input in appropriate places? Circeus (talk) 21:19, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The Spell
Why the columns in the character section? I think it looks confusing...Is that standard?Zigzig20s (talk) 22:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Anywhere there's a list in an article longer than, say, 10 lines, I find columns makes the article more compact and removes the "white space" from the right-hand side. It's not necessary (or recommended for or against, as far as I know), but I like it :)  Feel free to remove if you want - no problem. -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  22:42, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I like it not. Sorry...Zigzig20s (talk) 22:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

talkpage archive
Do you think I did it all right? I tried to get it from your page and sort of tweaked it a little - I think 30 days would be better; counter 1 as this would be the first archive?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:28, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No clue - see if it archives your page tonight :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:30, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Do you know when it is supposed to do it?Zigzig20s (talk) 23:32, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Somewhen around 8:00 AM EST -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 23:34, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

Charles Wuorinen
I happened to see your query on Choess's talk, I have access to the online Grove, and there doesn't seem to be anything in there that's relevant. It's not impossible that the hard-copy contains additional material however. David Underdown (talk) 10:54, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi, David - thanks for your help! The reason I asked about it is because he's listed in this article, which purports to be "[t]he unexpurgated full-length original of the New Grove II article, edited by Carlos Palombini".  He's just listed in passing as a "gay musician", but I've been unable to find anything to corroborate that.  I was hoping there was something in the New Grove like a full chapter on "LGBT Music" or maybe something in Wuorinen's bio about his partner.  Thanks for your help! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  15:07, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * From a very quick look at the content, it seems entirely probable that the article you mention above is indeed the original/full-length one. I simply searched for the first occurence of Wuorinen in that, and found the equivalent passage in the Grove article, which reads," It will be objected that in many cases a ‘straight’ equivalent may be found. But a list of this kind, which could easily be expanded, shows not only how very considerable the homosexual presence has been in 20th-century Western music but also prompts questions as to how and why, in the post-Freudian age, a basic element of subjectivity could have been so little examined in relation to music, or why that relation should have been so obsessively denied."  As you will be able to see, the wording is basically identical, but the "expanded list" itself is not given.


 * I've now done a full-text search of Grove for "Wuorinen", and they doesn't seem to be a mention of a partner anywhere. David Underdown 16:01, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Sigh. :) Your help is much appreciated!!!! -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  16:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Benito Papazón
It's a hoax. It has already been deleted in es:wiki. Cheers! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  11:50, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It was speedy. It's a play on words, which in English would be something like Come and play with my d***, big daddy. I didn't see it before because I didn't know the second name used was Carmelo, but honestly, once someone pointed it out, it was beyond obvious. Benito Carmelo Papazón -> Ven y tócamelo [el pene], Papazón. Any admin with a grasp of Spanish will get it. Plus we couldn't get a single ref which connected that name with the Dance of the 41. Pretty clear case. ;-) Cheers Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  19:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Edward Onslow
I'm afraid I don't have access to the full text of the Dictionary of Music and Musicians. However, a Google Books search on "Edward Onslow" and "homosexual" will reveal a snippet from that book confirming that he was involved in a sex scandal. (It appears to have involved indecent assault on one Phelim Macarty, Esq., but I haven't been able to dig up a full enough text to give more details.) Choess 18:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Here cums Santa Clawz!
Working on the Christmas newsletter. Let me know if I have crossed a line (though that doesn't mean I will uncross it :-P) Jeffpw 20:49, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hm. Guess I'd better get Frosty's Rainbow Balls Snowflake ready, then. :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  20:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Just between you and me (and all the lurkers on this page) writing an amusing newsletter out of the mundane doings of our little project (especially when you're tired and crabby) is hard work indeed. Jeffpw 21:53, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I don't have any lurkers on this page. Really. Why don't you work on the page here and let my non-lurkers lend a hand?
 * I am amazed and really wonder how I would succeed in your position. It's no wonder you're tired and crabby. :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


 * OMG, honey! They're beautiful! Can we use them all?!? And can we put holly and tinsel and balls all over the page??? And maybe red ink and a light green background?!? It's Christmas, after all!!!!! Youre the sweetest Satyr in the history of the world!!! It's done by the way. Jeffpw 23:06, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Finished Jeffpw 23:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'll volunteer my balls to be all over the page. :P --  ALLSTAR  echo  02:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Please, please, no! ;-) Aleta 03:00, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Graphics
All my balls are on the tree, here I bear gifts! for the newsletter. If you want other stuff, tell me. I can always get new balls, I don't really need them anyway. :p Jeff told me to put them here. You can use all or none or one, or two....you get the picture, I'm sure:

- Jeeny (talk) 03:09, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Alright - I've taken Jeffpw's and Jeeny's work and put them all together at the newsletter. Since I know I don't have any lurkers watching this page, I'll let that sit there for a day and deliver it tomorrow night (EST US). Thanks for y'all's work!  If you want a giggle, take a look at our newsletter, then look at some of the other WikiProject's newsletters.  Ours is by far the prettiest, most witty, and yes, I'll say it - The Most Gay!!!!! =D SatyrTN (talk | contribs)  04:53, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Before you post, I'd like to suggest making a change to the very first paragraph to include everyone such as this userbox does:
 * I know it's all politically correct, but we might as well be inclusive in the newsletter too. --  ALLSTAR  echo  05:01, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I like Allstarecho's suggestion, and I'd add Divali to the list even though it's already passed for this year... ok maybe not, whatever. What I really want to say is there is no question we have the prettiest and cleverest newsletter! Thanks Miss Julie for writing it, Jeeny for the graphics, and Satyr for putting it all together!! (Hey you should put in some of your snowflakes too.) Aleta 05:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Doh! Be Bold, Allstar - I'll add the snowflakes (mumble...how could I have forgotten...mumble) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 05:10, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Done but feel free to edit for clarity. --  ALLSTAR  echo  05:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh please, Commons! :-D I could use them for the Spanish project! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  14:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh please, Commons! :-D I could use them for the Spanish project! Raystorm   (¿Sí?)  14:32, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I said for clarity, not whitewashing! grrr. :X --  ALLSTAR  echo  15:39, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Sig
In your RfA, one of the participants mentioned your sig's length. However, I've done some code shrinking, and have an identical version that's much shorter.

Here's your current 187-character sig, :
 * SatyrTN (talk | contribs)
 * SatyrTN (talk | contribs)

Here's my revised version, which weighs in at 152 characters:
 * SatyrTN (talk | contribs)
 * SatyrTN (talk | contribs)

Good luck with your RfA. EVula // talk // &#9775;  // 17:04, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Alabama
Before its next run through WP:ALA's categories, could you remove Category:Fictional characters from Alabama from SatyrBot's list? I don't believe it is a strong enough connection to be covered by the project. Thanks for keeping the bot running and good luck on your RfA. If successful, you'll be a great admin. - <font color="#0000cd">auburn <font color="#EF6521">pilot  talk  21:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry
That your kind words to me on this page have become an issue for your Rfa. Had I known this might have occurred, I would rather have just sat out the full 24 hours. In that way I couldn't have messaged you about it. My apologies, and I hope it doesn't further affect your Rfa. Jeffpw 21:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
 * ROTFL! Don't you worry about it, hon!  After doing my laundry and painting my mailbox, I finally figured out why the "oppose" !votes were bothering me.  Actually, Chaz's comment doesn't bother me too much - he's basically saying I don't know the policies well, and he's right that I need to re-read and brush up on them if I'm an admin.  Balloonman's comment that I was ABF, though, bothered me - I keep reading that as "Satyr's mean!", which, of course, isn't what he's saying!  But it's no problem - if I don't become admin because of a comment to a friend on my talk page, so be it :) -- SatyrTN (talk | contribs) 22:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

One Day International
I just wanted to say thanks for doing that task and sorry for my clumsy instructions at the beginning. Have a good day. &mdash;Moondyne 01:59, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Inactivity?
SatyrBot thinks I'm inactive. I was for a while, I admit, but lately I have been active. Aleta 20:27, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Miss Julie would do anything for you
She asked me to tell you that the newsletter is one of the most beautiful things she has ever laid eyes on (even more beautiful than Gopher), and her little scribbles wouldn't mean a thing without your gorgeous formatting and graphics. She offered you sexual favors as a reward (something about the 50 yard line at the Superbowl during halftime), but I told her it wouldn't be necessary. She was most insistent, dear. I think Captain Stubing forgot to put salt peter in her meals. Jeffpw 21:06, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:28, 3 December 2007 (UTC)