User talk:Save me, Barry!

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Hi. As you are new I'll go easy on you. Any populated settlement, providing it is verifiable is acceptable on wikipedia and will never be speedy deleted. We have thousands of poor geography stubs but they need expanding not deleting. So please don't place speedy deletion tags on geography articles again. Happy editing!♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for that, I already knew about the four tildes and such, but a those links will probably help me, and I never knew about not placing a speedy deletion tag on a Geography article. Thanks. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:11, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

I'm not an administrator but I have the most article writing experience on here. As long as you provide reliable sources, preferably book sources from a google book search then they should be kept. What topics are you interested in? Do you speak any languages? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:16, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

No no, what I meant was that I nominated a few pages to be speedily deleted, could you check them out and see if I correctly tagged them, (can you even check which ones I have tagged?), and I generally like editing living people but I actually edit almost anywhere. As for the languages really just English. Also how did you change the font of your name, and add a diamond before it, looks cool. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:21, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

You'll find that the vast majority of articles are not speedy deletable. In fact it is rare that long existing articles are speedied, given that there are some standards in new page patrol that mostly route out the ones which are obviously non notable/adverts/self promotions etc or childish/offensive content. It most cases article lacking sources probably meet requirements and can be expanded using WP:RS (reliable sources). What I'd suggest is you read Notability and view Template:Proposed deletion (PROD) and use that template on articles who think don't meet content requirement, so long as you notify the person who created the article. You would be more helpful to wikipedia though if you tried to expand poor articles yourself... Other than that you can take lacking articles to AFD.♦ Dr. Blofeld  18:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I only put speedy tag on articles I cannot improve and deem necessary. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 19:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Google books search is very useful for assessing article notability.♦ Dr. Blofeld  19:14, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

What are you doing??? Why have you placed a speedy tag on Ransom Dunn. PLEASE do a google book search beforehand.., here. Tons of sources.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:10, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Are there any others you placed speedy tags on?♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:15, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

This is the sort of source which indicates notability..♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:16, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Nope, those were the only two articles I put that tag on, and I can assure you that will probably be the last time I do. I learnt that you should rarely use speedy tags. Thank you. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 20:25, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

OK. I've added some sources to Ransom Dunn. It could of course be much improved as with most wiki articles but it at least is a start now..♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

yeah you'll to avoid WP:3RR. Report it at Administrator intervention against vandalism if you are sure its vandalism. I am clueless about same- sex marriages but as far as I can see he is removing some unsourced statements so they could be contoversial I don't know. Maybe you could try to find sources to support those statements or request advice at the WP:LGBT project? ♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:13, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

List of filling stations in Martha's Vineyard. That is the sort of content you want to speedy!! Feel free to speedy tag it.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld  22:19, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

Deary me. A year or two ago List of filling stations in Martha's Vineyard would have been speediable... ♦ Dr. Blofeld  11:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

What do you mean a year or two ago? SilverSoul91911 (talk) 17:10, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

There seems to be a more cautious approach to new articles these days. The speedy deletion tag is used less and less I think. I think it has something to do with new editors being "scared off" and never contributing to wikipedia again, even if their article utterly unencyclopedic...♦ Dr. Blofeld  17:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

See the quality of Ransom Dunn now.. Now do you see why speedy tagging such articles is damaging to potential content?♦ Dr. Blofeld  15:28, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Yes I realised long ago it is wrong. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 16:53, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for telling me stuff I already know, I always do sign my talk posts, but thank you for saying it anyway. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 19:17, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:PERM/R
To answer your question about how I knew you wanted to use Igloo, I checked your contributions and saw this edit. Sorry to disappoint, but no, I'm not psychic! ;) How are you finding Twinkle? If you get a few days' experience with it, I'll be happy to recinsider my decision about rollback. Best, HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:55, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Ahh ok :)! Well I've been using twinkle so I'll re apply soon. Thanks SilverSoul91911 (talk) 17:12, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Just make sure you report vandals to AIV once they've gone past their final warning. There should be a button somewhere with "arv" on it that allows you to report them quickly. HJ Mitchell  &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   17:19, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Your note
Hi there SilverSoul91911. Sadly, I can't approve your request on my talk page for autopatrolled because at present, you've created (as far as I can tell) only two articles, and one was speedy deleted. While the requirements of autopatrolled are often down to individual admin judgment, the "average" requirement is between 15-25 pages created (preferably with as few deleted as possible). In addition to quantity of articles, quality is also important: the created articles do need to be decently-sourced, and creating unsourced articles on living people will definitely lead to autopatroller being denied. I hope this helps. Best. Acalamari 10:24, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I don't know if it's just an auto-message to tell me that I'm vandalizing, but that's unacceptable. Ok I may be new for the rule but not for editing wikipedia. I just want to show my doubt about the details particularly in Thai-Cambodian standoff. I really doubt about the details such as casualties and what you called'reliable source'. My I didn't intended vandalizing. See, almost all Cambodian casualties that was sourced has been deleted while Thai casualties with 'somewhat unreliable' Cambodian source isn't. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.120.207.210 (talk) 19:03, 6 February 2011 (UTC) --124.120.207.210 (talk) 19:05, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   16:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks Hj! SilverSoul91911 (talk) 17:18, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Hi SS91911, about your edit to Spam, here - I'm guessing you hit Rollback at the same time that ClueBot reverted the vandalism on the page, because your edit did in fact restore the vandal edit. Sometimes Rollback can play tricks like that, so it can be a good idea to check the result of the edit, just in case. Cheers, and happy editing! --bonadea contributions talk 17:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

You guessed correctly, that damn ClueBot is fast! I undid my edit though. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:12, 28 January 2011 (UTC)

Altered speedy deletion rationale: Sadie j episodes
Hello SilverSoul91911. I am just letting you know that I deleted Sadie j episodes, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, under a different criterion from the one you provided, which doesn't fit the page in question. Thank you. nancy 18:29, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Seemed to fit just fine. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:32, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
 * I see that you've only been on wiki for a couple of weeks, so welcome & thank you for helping with new page patrol.  I do however have to take issue with your reply - you tagged the page as "insufficient context to identify the subject of the article" when the article name pretty much gave the game away and the content was a reasonably extensive list of episode names, numbers and plot summaries. It was in fact a copyvio of a TV Guide which a quick google would have confirmed, indeed at the time you tagged the page it already had a bot notification identifying the possible copyvio. WP:COPYVIO (WP:CSD) pretty much trumps all speedy deletion criteria save for attack pages and should be removed as quickly as possible so if you do come across similarly tagged articles when you are on NPP please check the source page of the copyvio and if the bot is right then tag as a g12.  It is also important that copyvios don't get deleted under other criteria to prevent them being inadvertently restored or userfied. Kind regards,  nancy  19:38, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure I tagged it as having lack of content etc. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 19:40, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Either way, it had plenty of content and plenty of context. But this is missing the point that I want you to take on board, i.e. regarding the importance of identifying copyright violations and ensuring they are removed as quickly as possible. Best, nancy  19:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

FYI
Users are permitted to remove warning from their talk pages; it does them no service to remove the warnings as they remain in the talk page's history.  Tide  rolls  18:33, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

What an odd rule. Thanks anyway... SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:34, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * It may appear odd at a glance, but one of the benefits is that it prevents well-intentioned editors from edit warring on user talk pages. Edit warring is counter-productive in the article mainspace, but it's just downright silly on user talk pages.  You can read more on the subject at WP:REMOVED.  Regards   Tide  rolls  18:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

February 2011
Hi SilverSoul91911,

My edit was not an attempt at vandalism. Mestinel has been adding non-NPOV content to the article about his organization, against Wikipedia rules on conflict of interest – I was undoing the edit.

I was also removing the section "Reception", having already moved the section to a more appropriate article – the press quotes mentioned were about the "Queen's English Society", and were written before it diverged from the non-notable "Academy of Contemporary English", which has not been mentioned in the media since then (since September 2010).

I hope you'll consider reverting to my edited version of the page, or an NPOV version not written by Mestinel.

Best wishes, Responsible? (talk) 18:37, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Responsible?, after looking at it properly I saw what you were doing. Thank you. The article has been reverted to your edit. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks SilverSoul, no problem. Happy editing! – Responsible? (talk) 18:46, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

You have incorrectly reported my edits as vandalism when they are more accurate than yours so I will not refrain from correctly editing his page94.11.232.23 (talk) 19:19, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

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Your Request for Adminship
Hello SilverSoul91911, I just wanted to tell you I closed you Request for adminship early. We do appreciate your efforts, but at present the community feels that you need more experience before running again. If you continue editing and working in administrative areas without any major conflicts, then in six months to a year you can run again, and there shouldn't be any issues with you passing in the future. Best wishes, Alpha Quadrant    talk    13:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

April 2011
(Removed mistaken vandalism warning)


 * How is that not constructive? I was reverting vandalism. Unless you made a mistake? SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:34, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm removing the warning, I meant to revert and warn the edit before. 100% my mistake. Sorry about that. Monty  845  18:41, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't worry I understand. Using igloo I assume? SilverSoul91911 (talk) 18:43, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Huggle actually, usually it is good at warning me in situations like this, but again, it is no excuse. Monty  845  18:47, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh, never heard of Huggle before. Happens a lot on Igloo too.SilverSoul91911 (talk) 19:18, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

90210
Thanks for your help on the 90210 page. The characters the user keeps adding to recurring do not belong there. I've reverted the edits again, but I forgot to sign in. It shows up as my IP. If the user continues, I'll send a warning. Jayy008 (talk) 13:13, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem, I just didn't want to start an edit war. SilverSoul91911 (talk) 17:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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