User talk:Saveyourkisses4me

July 2016
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Barry Blue
Please be careful with your edits. We base our encyclopedia on what already published, independent, reliable sources state - not on what you know, or believe to be true. If you are obtaining information from Barry Blue himself, there may be conflict of interest issues, which again need to be avoided. All information added to an article must be verifiable. At the same time, we strive to be accurate, especially about living people, so there is a balance to be struck. But, please do not try to add promotional or "peacock" wording to the article. Material which does not comply with Wikipedia policy or guidance may simply be removed. Thanks. Ghmyrtle (talk) 16:07, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Hi G H Myrtle, Yes all material is coming direct from Barry Blue for this page. Of course in time I will link ref tags to these works that i can track down on the web. Also all this work is being transferred to his own website at www.barryblue.co.uk and I will also link relevant material too for proof etc. Thanks for your help. Regards John and Barry Blue — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saveyourkisses4me  (talk • contribs) 17:02, 17 March 2018 (UTC)


 * You therefore need to be very careful about conflict of interest - "COI editing is strongly discouraged on Wikipedia. It undermines public confidence and risks causing public embarrassment to the individuals and companies being promoted. Editors with a COI are typically unaware of whether or how much it has influenced their editing. If COI editing causes disruption, an administrator may opt to place blocks on the involved accounts." It would be much better if, rather than editing the article yourself, you highlighted any issues with the article on the article talk page, so they can be addressed by independent editors.  Thanks.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 17:28, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Hi GH Myrtle, Re: Barry Blue Wikipedia page. I have spoken to Barry Blue and he has just sent me a completely accurate and time line works to replace the current one that has errors and incorrect time line. We would like to completely remove the career sections and replace with a new Early Career, Artist Career and Songwriter/Producer career. I will also add all the hyperlinks as required in due course. Looking forward to your reply. John Holman and Barry Blue


 * Firstly, as Ghmyrtle said, this should be discussed on the article's talk page. Secondly, I really doubt the approach you propose - taking something written by Blue and then trying to find reliable sources to back it up - will work. Wikipedia articles should be written the other way around: First we find (independent) sources that discuss Blue in some detail, then we summarize (in our own words, to avoid copyright issues) what those sources have reported about him. Blue's view of his career is likely to differ from that given in independent sources, both in focus and assessment, and we should follow the latter, not Blue himself. Huon (talk) 21:09, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


 * I have undertaken a number of edits to Barry Blue's article today, trying to turn it nearer to the appropriate style, wording and formatting required by Wikipedia. Nevertheless, it is still full of repetition, has sections without references and, in parts, looks more like a laundry list than an encyclopedic article.  Please resist from adding any more information to this article, until at least some of these issues are addressed.  You may also care to read What Wikipedia is not, Manual of Style, and again note the comments of other editors (as above). Thank you,


 * Derek R Bullamore (talk) 14:53, 10 April 2018 (UTC)

Thanks Derek for your help. I think I have now enclosed evrything by Barry Blue. Maybe the odd edit if I notice a serious error.Saveyourkisses4me (talk) 15:04, 10 April 2018 (UTC)