User talk:Saygi1

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Categories
Hi, Saygi1. We need your help. When we read the article such as Azerbaijani American, we can understand Category:Azerbaijani people and its sub-categories, Category:Ethnic Azerbaijani people and its sub-categories are very problematic. We must clarify these categories by nationality or ethnicity. We have to sovle these problems. Thank you. Takabeg (talk) 02:17, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

+ Categories for discussion/Log/2011 August 28 Takabeg (talk) 15:27, 29 August 2011 (UTC)

Lotfi Zadeh
Hi. The edits you just made to this article changed the wording of two sections which were based on what the cited source says, so I have reverted them. Please do not make changes which are not supported by the cited source. Thanks, Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Please see your talk page as well as the talk page of the article. All my edits are based on sources, the very same sources already cited in the article by you, as well as two new sources that are videos of him, of Prof. Lotfi Asker Zadeh, speaking for himself, which is far more credible than pretty much all else. Thank you very much for your "sentinel" like protection of the article from vandalism and abuse. --Saygi1 (talk) 00:23, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Your sources do not support your contention, sorry. Please see this discussion I have initiated on WP:ECCN. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

Dear Ken - of course the sources support "my contention". Which part of them "does not"? That Lutfi Asker Zadeh was born in Baku, Azerbaijan? That he speaks/understands Azerbaijani? That he considers himself Azerbaijani as well as Russian, Iranian and American? I got you two video's of him speaking recently - in 2007 and 2009 to be precise - at his university, UC Berkeley. What other proof is needed? --Saygi1 (talk) 21:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Any additional discussion should take place on the WP:ECCN thread linked above. I will not be responding here again.  Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

3RR
You need to know about WP:3RR if you're going to be reverting so much; though it would be better if you didn't. Please take the warnings about blocks seriously William M. Connolley (talk) 07:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * thanks, I know the rules, and suggest for all to additionally take notice of the rules about citing reliable sources and no right to give undue weight to one side or engage in suppression of living persons' own words and statements, as well. --Saygi1 (talk) 21:16, 2 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Clearly, you don't know the rules. I can explain 3RR, should you need any further explanation William M. Connolley (talk) 06:52, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:RSN
This report concerns you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:20, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Nationality & ethnicity
Saygi, could you see: Talk:Turkish diaspora. An user proposed relatively constructive solution. Why don't you try this approach in related articles ? Takabeg (talk) 15:02, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi Takabeg - I don't see much difference, in principle, between pages like Iranian American, Russian American, Chinese American and Azerbaijani American. I am all for a consistent, standard approach to all, and would support an approach that's based on that principle. --Saygi1 (talk) 23:09, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

WP:AN/I
This report concerns you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:10, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Nizami
Selam Saygı, Nizami için Category:Azerbaijani people uygun değildir. Takabeg (talk) 00:37, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It was there for a very long time, I checked archives. And it is fully OK - according to encyclopedia's, category like Azerbaijani people or nation existed by Nizami's time, and he lived in Azerbaijan. That category is not for citizens of Azerbaijan only. So Kurdo777 is totally wrong to remove it, and do many other such edits in many other article. --Saygi1 (talk) 00:38, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Edit warring at Anti-Turkism
Please do not engage in edit warring at the article Anti-Turkism. Continued edit warring behavior will result in a block. Binksternet (talk) 02:40, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Arbcomm
Hello, You have been mentioned here as a party   --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 10:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

Your post to the requests for arbitration page
I am one of the members of the Arbitration Committee. I have seen your post on the requests for arbitration page in which you, among other things, suggest that two named editors are paid agents of the Iranian government, state or insinuate that they are linked to terrorist activities, suggest that other editors' lives are in danger, and indicate that you plan to report two editors who have opposed you in on-wiki disputes to the FBI.

If, as I suspect, the contents of your post represent rhetorical exaggeration written in the heat of frustration, please retract your allegations immediately. There is a very major difference between accusing an editor of editing Wikipedia overzealously from a non-neutral point of view, which is a matter we address on Wikipedia, and accusing that editor of having real-world links to terrorism that should be investigated by the government.

If you believe you have actual evidence to support the serious allegations you have made, please forward it by e-mail to me immediately so that I can review it and as appropriate refer it to the Arbitration Committee or otherwise. Please note that the fact that an editor is of a particular ethnic background and lives in or near a particular city does not in my view constitute evidence. In any e-mail to us, please state whether you have, in fact, made a report to the FBI as you stated you were going to, or still intend to do so.

You are instructed not to edit any page on Wikipedia other than this talkpage until this matter is resolved. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:09, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * LOL, I love the allegations. If FBI actually does investigate me, they will see I live not in DC and I came to the US as a refugee (due to current IRI government I might add..)! However calling other people Terrorist is sufficient reason for banning.  I was instructed to notify Saygi1 per this .  Now he is notified: --Khodabandeh14 (talk) 02:18, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Hi Newyorkbrad - you don't have an email available, so I could not contact you by email as you requested. Also, you requested that I don't edit other pages, except this. Actually, I never called user Khodabandeh14 a terrorist, and made clear that: "Let's further borrow from Khodabandeh14's book", that I can start using almost the very same tactics of Khodabandeh14 and Kurdo777 to put together a bunch of different references and points to come up with any synthesis, by involving any organization, living or otherwise person(s), etc. The difference between my writing and his is that mine is based on sources that actually do state all this (e.g., Iranian government does engage in state-sponsored terrorism in US, does recruit Iranian-Americans for this purpose, does have a lobbyist organization NIAC and does have a real lobbyist Trita Parsi, and that user Khodabandeh14 is in Washington DC area based on his own revealing edits in Wikipedia), whilst Khodabandeh14 and Kurdo777 just try to do a hatchet job on everyone they dislike by putting together unrelated and groundless points.


 * However, I am very serious (as is the US government, apparently) about the Iranian terrorism, and the recent evidence of Iranians living in US and acting as puppets of the Iranian government in carrying out terrorist actions, is compelling and overwhelming. Terrorists and Iranian government agents rely on such open sources as Wikipedia for their research and terror. The intensification of attacks that are purely anti-Azerbaijani and Turcophobic by Kurdo777 and Khodabandeh14 is a serious concern, especially when coinciding with a major case of Iranian terrorism, as are their deliberate violations of Wikipedia rules (they are veteran members of Wikipedia, who know the rules well, and know that they are not supposed to harass, violate privacy, assault living persons, engage in false advertising and slander).


 * So I was responding using the same methods and ways as did users Khodabandeh14 and Kurdo777. If anything is allowed to them, then a fraction of that is allowed to me, too, as a right of reply. In any case, they violated multiple Wikipedia rules when they started their attacks on myself and multiple other users, by ignoring all the rules, prompting a response from me, and apparently others. If they started it first, they are the provocateurs, and they out to be punished for that. And yes, I don't mind to discuss my case and complaint with you personally, because actions by these individuals potentially endanger lives of people. --Saygi1 (talk) 03:08, 14 October 2011 (UTC)


 * See Special:EmailUser/Newyorkbrad. NW ( Talk ) 13:13, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Blocked
For reasons substantially following on the above thread, I have blocked this account indefinitely. Any appeal is to the Arbitration Committee via e-mail. Newyorkbrad (talk) 02:36, 17 October 2011 (UTC)

- Regards, Mailer Diablo 19:37, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
 * In reference to your appeal to BASC, your account has now been unblocked subject to your conditions as laid out in your correspondence to BASC :
 * on the condition to remove the word/reference to FBI in my (Saygi1) reply on the Arbcom page