User talk:Scarian/Archive 12

Ahhh prots
You put a prot on my favourite page. If any additions get stuck into it from any "new single purpose accounts" can I get you to do my standard "cleanup re: lead-in" edit to help maintain the integrity of the list? 156.34.231.56 (talk) 16:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing ;-) Scarian Call me Pat  16:45, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Kurt Cobain
If his first experience with marijuana was in 1980, that would have made him 13, seeing as he was born in 1967. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseInWinter (talk • contribs) 17:04, 8 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That source is incredibly biased and unreliable. You can't use it. Please try and find a source that meets WP:RS. Scarian Call me Pat  17:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Fair enough. But I know for sure that he said in one Rolling Stone interview that his stomach wasn't bothering him anymore. I just need to dig it up, but Justice for Kurt does offer citations for quotes.

The basic math stands. 1980-1967 is 13, not 14. You can't spell it out any more than that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoseInWinter (talk • contribs) 17:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Arjuna808
Aloha. Please review the comments I have made about Arjuna808's block here. Thank you. &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 02:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Another Huggle struggler?
is either a huggle newbie or doesn't know what WP:VAN is. 156.34.225.50 (talk) 04:32, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the help!
Hey Scarian,

I wanted to stop by and say thanks for taking such an interest in helping to figure things out with User:Yosemitesam25. I know it's difficult to step into conflicts like this--I've been keeping an eye on it for a while and am still struggling to keep up--but I just wanted to let you know that your help is appreciated. -- jonny - m t  12:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * No worries. I did opt for a Hawaiian article ban first but another admin pointed me in the direction of WP:1RR. Thanks for the note, friend. Message me if you need anything (Specifically, mediation on any Hawaiian related articles where the said user has been involved). Take care! Scarian Call me Pat  13:01, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Appreciate you taking action so quickly. Cheers Rossrs (talk) 13:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Huggle
Oops, that was an obvious mistake. :( Thanks for telling me.   jj137   (talk)  14:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

cobain
you are failing at your duty as an administrator to see that i had made a good faith compromise attepmt with chrisb but chrisb just responded with sarcasm and i see you have taken sides and i will contact another adminstrator to handle this issue being i see you have your biases as i can see you are showing me the 3 revert rule warning mean while the one chrisb started the revert first and i tried to make a good faith attempt on his page to resolve the issue thats a nono scarian--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:00, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

scarian i did discuss it look at chrisb talk page you are totaly missing the point i made a good faith attepmt to resolve the issue before i made change to page again what is your problem how can you just ignore this and say im not engaing in a dialoge to resolve the issue how blantlly bias can you be this is outrageous--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

a small accurate contribution does not need to be disscussed on the talk page discussing that would equate to disscusing a gramtical error and asking it was okay to fix the spelling lol i handled it fine i proceded to ther person who had a problem and tried to be democratic about maybe he did not like the wording i used and offed to change it to something we could both agree on--Wikiscribe (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Oasis (band)
I put it on hold (not many things, shouldn't take too long). You can see my comments here. --Kakofonous (talk) 17:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It iz good (in both sensez of de werd). --Kakofonous (talk) 18:55, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

block
You put a 24 hour block on me for violating the three revert rule on the article Standardization of Office Open XML ? But I had only exactly three reverts on that article and no more than that. Whilst others are using Tor to editthe article even Example. So why was I getting blocked ? hAl (talk) 21:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I want to know why the 3RR if I had exactly 3 reverts on the Standardization of Office Open XML article. You again refuse to give an explanation. Especially since the specific revert I did were in supported of other users doing the same edit like user:WalterGR who had already given the user:Kilz a 3RR warning for his edits. I don't like administrative action in my logs at times that I follow the rules. hAl (talk) 22:05, 9 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Why would you give me and genral edit warning. I made all valid edits and those three reverts. As you state you are not just reffering to the three revert edits but gave me a general edit warning on Standardization of Office Open XML then I wonder which other edits to that particular article were offensive. So I ask for the third time why I was blocked. If you seem unable to answer that question that I would rather ask for you to add an apology to my talk page rather than avoiding the question again. hAl (talk) 22:59, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Congrats
Despite what you've asked me, I'd find it rude not to congratulate you on your successful RfA. -- Alisyn talk 00:06, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I'm sorry if this is the only reason an orange banner is popping up. -- Alisyn talk 00:21, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * You too =) -- Alisyn talk 00:54, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Question about a proposed music merge
A discussion was started on merging something in September 2006. It never got much discussion. Now what?  Enigma  msg! 00:21, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Really not sure how to do it. The best way would be to have Walking with a Ghost be one page with information from both of those pages on it.  Enigma  msg! 16:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

How can I avoid an banning and an edit war?
I was recently blocked by you for an edit war with hal. I do not want another ban and would prefer to stay out of edit wars. But Hal who has a very pro Microsoft stance has just wiped out a large section of criticism on Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML Here is a dif and here is another with no discussion or asking for more references. Will I get blocked or warned for replacing them? Kilz (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I know you suggested going to WP:ANI about hal. But Im not 100% sure if this last edit falls under warring since he did try and discuss it. He did it without others agreeing with him, but he did try and discuss it. Could you please take a look at the discussion and edit then see if you agree with it? Thanks. Kilz (talk) 12:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Protect

 * If you want to protect the articles than in that case I want you as an admin to protect legitimate edits like this this to the Office open XML article which are actually supported by the info in the cited sources that user:Oub is continuously reverting (in fact he has been edit warring the Office open XML article for a few months now and does not listen to several wikipedians suggesting him otherwise on the talk pages. hAl (talk) 12:28, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

HAl
It seems that I am not the only user who has difficulties with the attitude of user HAl. I suggest blocking him. Oub (talk) 16:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC):

Can you..
Do something about Mr Linkspammer? 156.34.222.210 (talk) 18:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Heavy metal fashion‎
I put the article up for AfD. I figured if I mentioned it on your talk page that yourself and others might take a look at the article and see my reasoning and cast their votes one way or the other. Thanks. Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Unbelievable. I thank you for your vote but it seems it may be kept anyways.  If it is, I guess I will work on rewriting the whole thing.  Most of the first section is okay, I guess.  But pretty much the whole last 2/3 of the article needs to be just outrigh deleted. Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 00:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * when I first saw this AfD I thought.. hmmm?.. Navlos is nominating an article that describes the contents of his closet :D. And then I noticed you had voted on it and I thought... hmm? Pat is voting against an article that... oh never mind... :-D HA! All in all I thought it was just sorta funny. As for the article itself... I have no real opinion. To me it seemed like one of those fluff pages that looks make-believe... but looks kinda legit all at the same time. Black metal is the comic relief of heavy metal music. And black metal fashion is the comic relief of... well... just about anything. I can't say much about stereotype heavy metal fashion which is really what that page is describing.. Even I dressed like that at some point in my life.... back in 1979 :D . I won't vote on it. But if I did I would simply vote to rename it "Stereotype heavy metal fashion" and demand a few more refs (it has one ref and it has two external links that could've been used as cites if someone took the time to read them) Or maybe the article could be renamed Navlos' closet :D 156.34.223.41 (talk) 00:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * HEY! Your jabs at me aside, maybe we're all changing.  As for your jabs, though, I do not dress in the sterotypical metal fashion.  I have long hair, yes.  But mostly what they are describing in that article is not the way I dress.  You are right to assume the heavy metal fashion page is fluff.  It is total bs.  If is kept it needs a rewrite and some sections will be deleted altogether.  I will definitely use your comment, though, if the article is kept.  I will probabaly put a sentence in the beginning referring to sterotypes and that that page is all about them.  Also, even if I dressed like a sterotypical metalhead (and I'm not against most of it) I would still detest that article for a number of reasons. Read the AfD discussion.  I don't believe fashion in subcultures is something that should be discussed in any sort of encylopedic format.  It differs from person to person and everyone's perspective of "fashion"  and what constitutes it is different.  I don't mind it being discussed too much (it makes me cringe a little) but it should never be discussed in an encyclopedia.  The subject matter in and of itself is uncyclopedic in nature. Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 00:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * BTW.... WP:CANVASS is being slightly shaded this eve. 156.34.223.41 (talk) 00:15, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Not by me =), cheers! Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 00:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Messenger
I sent you a couple of offline MSN messages. I will copy them into an email. I am out for the day. Good luck protecting the Wik. 156.34.223.41 (talk) 11:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Back to work(... work??) From an earlier conversation we had about a troublesome editor... this post would indicate that there is a COI issue and a large WP:OWN problem which overpowers the editor abilities to read and understand edit summaries and the properly quoted policies and guidelines. An IP editor should be better than that. Anyhow... I have to go tease my long hair, put on my spandex pants and eye liner, don my torn t-shirt and leather jacket and go listen to some Crue. Or.... go and have a Greek salad and a glass of wine. 156.34.239.151 (talk) 22:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * LMAO!!! Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 22:27, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I can't touch him 'cause he hasn't edited in a while. You've got it covered Mr.Spandex. Scarian Call me Pat  22:28, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Whoops
I accidentally thought the one on the left was on the right. my apologizes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumestest (talk • contribs) 23:16, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
 * huh??? 156.34.239.151 (talk) 23:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio?
The article Good to Be Bad is lifted almost word for word from here. Or am I seeing things? 156.34.239.151 (talk) 00:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup. I've removed most of the copied material. Some ejits we have on Wikipedia, eh? ;-) Scarian Call me Pat  00:51, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wanna see a stereotype? Lookee here. The general public opinion of metalheads is that they are a bunch of greasy haired, pimple faced, retarded level-four basket weavers. That post could be used as a citation for that opinion. :D . 156.34.239.151 (talk) 12:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And the more I read that the more it looks like and uncivil threat to other editors who are trying to improve Wikipedia and may be worth a warning and even a block. 156.34.239.151 (talk) 13:15, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I looked at it and destroyed it. I also blocked him for 24 hours for being an ass to Christians and other editors. Scarian Call me Pat  14:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Alcoholics Anonymous
Your revert of vandalism:

(Reverted edits by 207.232.97.13 (talk) to last version by 82.35.59.169)

Has been vandalised again by user: 207.232.97.13

Your revert of vandalism:

(Reverted edits by 207.232.97.13 (talk) to last version by Scarian)

Has been vandalised once more by user: 207.232.97.13

Mr Miles 01:19, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Scarian, thanks for the block on user: 207.232.97.13

Unfortunately he also posters under the IP: 207.194.108.93 and User:MisterAlbert

This is noted here:



He has resumed his vandalism under the other two guises.

Anything you can do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.35.59.169 (talk) 19:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Rhapsody
Please stop vandalizing the Rhapsody article and leaving bogus warnings on my talk page. The fact that the Japanese title is "Puppet Princess" and not "Doll Princess" is an undisputed fact. It's even stated several times in the article and is visible on the Japanese game cover, which is also shown on the article. In fact, the official title is even included in the Rhapsody game booklet, at the end of the prologue. Don't attack edits without even doing proper research.24.3.180.166 (talk) 00:52, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Return of the blogs
I see that you are working at a slower pace. But I am hoping you can help again. There is a discussion on Talk:Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML of adding one of the blogs you removed with a different page from the blog, lol sbdd. At least my sense of humor is returning. Its so heated that I went to Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard and posted a question in hopes of getting an answer, only to have the war dragged there. I didnt announce that I was asking the question, but was followed through my contribs. Would it be possible for you to post on the placing of blogs on Talk:Standardization_of_Office_Open_XML? Thanks in advance. Kilz (talk) 13:41, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

USER Warren
Hello

You recall the article about OOXML? We are just trying to discuss in a peaceful manner how to preceed and user User:Warren just removed that section. I find that not acceptable he has not contributed to the discussion. I will revert his edit and propose a warning about his editing polity. Oub (talk) 17:25, 12 March 2008 (UTC):

User:METALFREAK04
I was just curious as to why the user was blocked. I've talked with METALFREAK04 a few times in the past and he never seemed to be the kind of person to do anything wrong on wikipedia. I'm not saying he didn't I was just wondering what the block was for as I noticed it while moseying on over to his talk page. Thanks. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 20:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * OOPS. Nvm. Forgot to read my messages. How silly. Yes, I'll do what I can and thanks for letting me know. What pages was he making these derogatory comments on, so I can take a look and know what I'm dealing with? I'll try and calm him down. Cheers. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 20:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, I understand, I will leave him a message. I debated on whether or not to tell you my name =), but in the end I figured it won't hurt as it is a rather common name. Daniel.  Is you name really Pat(Patrick?)?  <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 20:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Wow, you actually go by that? Where do you come from, if you don't mind me asking?  That's an interesting name.  I'm not sure about posting a pic.  We'll see. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 21:26, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

That's cool. Nah, I'm not a pure blood american, lol. I'm guessing you're referring to a Native American? Maybe, I'll put a pic up, we'll see. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 21:54, 12 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I do take it as positive criticism. I only told the vand s/he was being reported because I thought we were supposed to do that as a courtesy.  I did figure out that you don't report vandals to ANI, but instead to AIV.  As for my comments on my talk page...=), I'm not known for being humble.  I may be more humble irl (in real life), but on the internet as far as wikipedia and video games go, I'm not.  Sorry.  I just think it's funny.  Pwning n00bs is fun =).  I will try to welcome more people, though.  370!?!?!  WOW!. I hope it was a good message.  Psychology is in my blood. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 17:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hmmm?
Is Badfish notable or advertising... or just notable advertising? 156.34.239.151 (talk) 10:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Some people prefer giving free advertising to non-notable subjects instead of building a quality project. Which is sad. But you tried. Thanks again. 156.34.239.151 (talk) 23:29, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Hi Scarian, check out my discovery of blatant plagiarism of the Hendrix & Greenwich village wiki articles by Rotimi Ogunjobi in his internet book
with the (copied from the album title) "The Essential Jimi Hendrix" go to the hendix discussion page see article 71. Early Life Section,follow the links and compare, note the publishing date on his self published (by Lulu) "book" and check the pre 2006 articles on the hendrix wiki also the greenwich village.Jameselmo (talk) 11:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

When you feel like it
is a vandal only account that needs a booting. 156.34.239.151 (talk) 17:49, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * PS, for some humour, Conservapedia is a different sorta swing on their articles but you have to admit... this picture pretty much nails the far-left-wing-nut on the head :D. I have that blown up and posted on my office door (I work at a University... I am pretty much surrounded by financially irresponsible hippie types who would prefer we all just hug rather than work) The pic will catch the attention of some politically correct pea brain and then they'll whine and complain over their stuffed eggplant lunch. :D 156.34.239.151 (talk) 18:01, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * HA! the molecule of guilt is too big in the pic. :D 156.34.239.151 (talk) 18:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Warning?
No less than 4 people on the talk page were agreeing on the edit. On the talk Page user:Warren, User:Cloud2user:Soumyasch and me stated that the section was inapporpriate, then Warren made the edit to remove it and user:Oub reverted it for like the tenth time. And then you give me a warning ???????????? That is fucking unbelievable. This time I am making a complaint against you for complety biased behaviour. user:Oub has double the amount of reverts on that particular section and you do not even touch him. Also you have been removing all references to Microsoft blogs from theStandardization of Office Open XML even though they were from experts on this standardization proces have have more peer review than any other sources and which are also some of the most cited sources on Office Open XML subject but left in all kind of unconfirmed and or negative stories by anti OOXML blogs. hAl (talk) 20:55, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Pat: Thank you for recent contribution of disinterested commentary to my ongoing concerns about edits to tort law. I appreciate the advice of experienced and wise wikis such as you in resolving my first wikidispute, and I know that wikipedia is better having people like you around. Non Curat Lex (talk) 21:38, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'll second that. See, we can agree on something.  Enigma  msg! 21:42, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sure we agree on a great many things. I hope that you will not consider my defense of my edits as personal attacks. I think we're all trying to do what each of us think is best for wikipedia here, no more and no less. We may have differences of opinion - even very serious ones - about how best to do that, but if we stick to the rules and guidelines, we'll still all be doing what's best for wikipedia. Non Curat Lex (talk) 23:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Badfish
Hi, you A7'ed this. However, the page cited a source indicating the group was an enormously successful cover group. It was thus ineligible for speedy. May I please have the page restored? Chubbles (talk) 21:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, 'preciate the quick response. Chubbles (talk) 22:05, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism by this User
This user has protected a user's talk page, apparently for protesting an unjustifiable block. This cannot be considered anything except pure vandalism, and vandalism of the worst and more petty sort. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.155.58 (talk) 23:21, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Need your opinion/expertise re: a bizarre text formatting
When you have a spare minute go to Canned Heat. If you look at the article it doesn't seem to out of the ordinary poorly written but aren't they all Now click the edit button and slowly scroll down. Check out the bizarre line breaks that are not constant... but consistent throughout most of the article. In days past I have nailed many many articles with oddball formatting like that one as copyvio copy/paste jobs from other websites. Trouble with that one... and maybe I am just getting slow... I can't spot the "potential" external source. It looks like a pasty... but it can't be jarred and shelved until the true source... if there really is one... is Sherlocked out. Can you see what I am talking about when you click the edit button? That is my "strange-O" of the day. Another mystery for the Scooby-Doo gang to solve. Darn those meddlin' kids!156.34.228.106 (talk) 00:37, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I see what you mean. It looks like it's been reworded from here: . Certainly is strange... and yet, that formatting doesn't seem to break up the page so much. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  11:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the peek. It has to be a copy/paste and it's like each sentence has one word changed in order to slip through the eventual Googling.
 * While I have your attention... even heard of this genre of music???? Maybe it's real. I happen to think it's a fairy tale. What are your thoughts? THere's an awful lot-o-red-links on them thar pages. :D 156.34.228.106 (talk) 19:00, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

LMAO!!!! I saw 156 IP man's conservapedia pic...so true, so true. I also couldn't help but notice that Etac keeps sending 156 IP man "friendly, spread the love" templates. I thought 156 IP man hated Etac. or at least disliked him and considered him a troll. At any rate sorry to leave this message here, Pat, but I never know if I should leave a message on 156 IP man's page because he may switch IPs and never see it. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 19:23, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't hate anyone. 'Hate' is a Four letter word. Tic Tac has a lengthy history of vandalism, trolling and many other 'anti-wiki' habits. Which means everything he does must be scrutinised as a potential negative on the project. That being said he does have many proper/positive edits on Wikipedia. He is the creator of the Wiki Christian metal project which, for lack of anything else, is a very positive contribution for Wikipedia... one which someone/somewhere along the way should have given him a barnstar for. It would've been well deserved for starting, what many in the "pea-brain-population of heavy metal fans", would've considered unnecessary. But he won't get one from me simply because of... well... y'know... all the earlier 'negatives'. That he seeks me out and gives me cookies... that is either his way of trying to turn around his past indiscretions and apologise to one editor who has had to clean up after him a thousand times. OR... he may simply be talk-page-trolling??? who knows? As for my pic post... that is a very funny impression of a stereotype. Pat posted a return comic pic in my directions which was also very funny. Both pictures portray something that many people don't get.... that they are both stereotypes... and they are both wrong. Bill CLinton was a liberal who was governor of a state whose death row has an express lane. Tony Blair was a labour party leader whose extended an iron fist further than Margaret Thatcher could've ever hoped to. Here in Canada we suffered under a corrupt Liberal government that stole billions from the public sector and from our social safety net that, by Liberal stereotype, were the backbone of their polical belief. Pat is a liberal. Something it takes a lot of guts to say in this day and age. And I respect him greatly for his beliefs. I, on the other hand, could be called a Conservative by some I call myself one But, that being said, I am a Conservative who strongly believes in unions and the power of collective bargaining and that our Canadian health care system should always be public and never be privatised... 2 things that Conservatives aren't known for.... if you go by stereotypes. But I am far from being a stereotype. Another 'non-conservative' belief for me... I believe we should legalise pot. NOt because I want easier access to it (I haven't imbibed for decades)... but my internal 'liberal' businessman wants to tax the sh*t out of it and then dump all that cash back into health care and education. My external 'Conservative' businessman wants to add military resources to the health care and education pot tax benefit. Always avoid the stereotypes. They're evil. And if anyone has any good political comics either lefty or righty... let's see 'em. We all need a good laugh. besides the one we get thinking about Navlos' "metal" wardrobe :D WHOOPS... there's a stereotype... no need for those. :D 156.34.228.106 (talk) 22:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hear hear! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  22:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh very funny! Let's keep my wardrobe out of it =).  I also consider myself a conservative but I have many liberal views as well.  I'm very much into politics, just so you know.  It's always good to be able to laugh at ourselves now and then. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 23:12, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And some of us can probably laugh at ourselves WAY more than others can. 156.34.228.106 (talk) 23:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Warning Thanks for giving out the warning to ..
colfer2, can you please look over this, Uconnstud (talk) 21:25, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Thunderbolt (Norwegian band)
I just noticed that the AfD template is still up on the page and wasn't sure if I should remove it or not as I thought the conversation there was over. I figured I would bring it to your attention and leave it up to you to get rid of the template or whatever it is one is supposed to do there, lol. Thanks. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 19:28, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

hey!
He asked me out on a date. Which had nothing to do with the 3rr report to which I declined and stated that he had every right to his preference  and then further explained it to you. WEre you able to look at the blatent violation of the 3rr report? thanks you.

ps I have no bias against anyone except for the irrational Uconnstud (talk) 21:34, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I can't go against another admins decision without discussing it first (per WP:WHEEL) and I'm not about to. I believe it was the right decision. Secondly, he didn't ask you out on a date. He was being quite friendly (if not sarcastic - which I will pick up on on his talk page). You didn't need to make a comment about homosexuals in that fashion. That's the bottom line. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  21:38, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

AN/I
I kept an eye on the message you posted, but no one replied. I looked into it a little bit myself, but it's a little hard to sort out, and I don't want to warn just the most obvious case, because I would likely get accused of bias in that case. "Why are you warning me! The other guy was just as bad!" etc. Heh. Anyway, I'm going to be away for a day or so. Good talking to ya!  Enigma  msg! 22:22, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Reply
I am adding these friendly salutations because I want to make friends with Wikipedians. Ok, I will try the welcoming commitee that you suggessted to me. Ok, thanks! LANGOLASSI (talk) 23:59, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

More "Canned Heat-ish" copyvio?
Pandemonium (band) is a very long article about a very non-notable subject. The style of prose indicates that it was written somewhere else and pasted here. BUT... I can't find the source. Ideas. One great idea I have is to speedy the thing... but I successfully speedied several articles over the past few days... and I feel a slump coming on if I try and keep up my current quality pace. :D 156.34.219.217 (talk) 12:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * PS.. I think that this and all the acts tied to it are here for advertising only. A mass AfD? or just me being too picky about Wikipedia being overchubbled with advertising and I should just go and get a coffee and some Shredded Wheat? :D 156.34.219.217 (talk) 12:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

RedSpruce
I am sorry if looks like I am just reversing RedSpruce without thought. Just look how much information was deleted by RedSpruce in his last reversion of my edits back to his last version here at Annie Lee Moss. He reverted over a dozen individual edits, including information on her birth, her parents, her husband, and her death date. He even reverted back to his typographical error in the name of the author. Again here at Mary Stalcup Markward, he has deleted every edit I have made to the article. Its not a matter of editorial opinion, its wholesale deletion of whatever I add. There are two open ANIs on him over it. His radical changes are still locked into the two above articles.

His strategy is to delete all my additions, then ask for the page to be protected to lock in his changes. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 15:44, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

He also left this on my page, after deleting my additions to the article: "You are a complete idiot and moron. Please take your stupidity to some other article. Thank you. RedSpruce (talk) 15:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)"

AfD spike band
Hey, Pat, I just wanted to ask if you could put that article up for deletion when you can per WP:OR and no references. The article is totally ridiculous as well and untrue in many ways. It might fit the criteria for a speedy deletion. It's much appreciated, thanks. I probabaly won't be around for the next week, so good luck with the article and what not. I hope the articles i usually watch don't get messed up, but I guess I can't really do anything. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 19:43, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I didn't know if you were on or not. You sure you have no opinion on it at all? The article is ridiculous. <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 19:50, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Cheers
...for the user talkpage revert. And might I say wow you are fast. You reverted the vandal and blocked them before I managed to see what they wrote. Thanks again :) AngelOfSadness  talk  23:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It's all in the wrist. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  23:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

E-mail
Scarian, I sent you an e-mail. -- Alisyn talk 23:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I've replied. -- Alisyn talk 23:18, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

When you're around...
When you're around, 68.102.178.172 is back off his block and at it again. 156.34.236.222 (talk) 00:13, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, 72.201.252.153 is struggling after his block too. 156.34.236.222 (talk) 00:38, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Warned and blocked respectively. Gonna help Enigmaman with some admin training. Tally ho! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  01:04, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

68 ignored your friendly message. 156.34.236.222 (talk) 02:09, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Okay, I'll ice him next time. Good job on keep up with things! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  02:14, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I know you think he was being a bit harsh
But.. this isn't the first case against him Uconnstud (talk) 01:20, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

I am back
Hey, long time no see! I was a bit busy in my personal life, specifically in study. But, now I'm getting back to Wikipedia. I think our attempt to organize debate related articles under WP:WikiProject_Debating becomes very slow. So, I just wanna speed up this process. It won't be a problem if we two again start working together. Just let me know. Cheers! -- <font color="Green" face="tahoma">Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  10:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Hey, congratulations. I didn't notice that you became an Administrator. It was an impressive result having 116 positive votes without any oppose. BTW, since you are receiving many messages, I think, you didn't see my little request :-(. I am planning to make Debating project alive and I am in need of your support. Hope you can manage few extra hours from your busy activity to review debating related articles. Waiting for your reply. Cheers! -- <font color="Green" face="tahoma">Niaz (Talk •  Contribs)  14:50, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Mikepuk1
I'm not sure; given his reaction to a 31 hour for repeated vandalism to Scientology, I doubt that he'll take any block in the spirit in which it is intended. I wonder if the account is compromised since he suddenly seems to have switched from constructive editing to vandalism. It's clearly a schoolkid. However, I can keep an eye on him if you want to drop the block down. Maybe the knowledge that we can block him indefinitely will concentrate his mind? --<font color="7F007F">Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 14:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Venom
How is using the logo for venom a fair use violation? Undeath (talk) 19:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Do you want a work-a-round? Place it below the infobox with a specific reference to it in the article's prose with appropriate sourcing. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  20:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't really know how to do that. Could you do it on this article so I could use it as a reference later on? Undeath (talk) 20:22, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

When you have a chance..
This can be rv'd in my standard cleanup re: lead-in wording. 156.34.217.80 (talk) 21:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Big issue
Now I seem to have a problem with the way things were handled with the venom article. Many, many band articles have the logo in the userbox. Frankenstein Drag Queens From Planet 13 and MATH (band) are just a few examples. I think, that in some cases, the logo should be in the infobox because hardly no other pictures exist. One that surprised me as having no picture is Disturbed (band). Undeath (talk) 23:05, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Here's the link to help you explain Pat. Template:Infobox musical artist. It is a text only field. As per discussion on the template talk page, no logos are permitted in the name field. And in the same page the rule for the img field is that it is "An image of the act"... and nothing else = no logos. Logos can be added in the main body of the article, provided they have cited text to explain the notability/history of the logo. No accompanying tex w. citation = crufty/unencyclopedic decoration and an unwanted addition to a project that's already struggling to be an encyclopedia. It isn't a fansite. And fanboy decorations aren't required or desired here. If any articles are found with logos added to their infobox... the argument is not to try and use that as support for adding more cruft... the proper thing to do is to remove the offending logo as per the template guidelines and talk page consensus. As has been done with over 50 lingering logos today. And likely just as many tomorrow. Hope that helps. Have a nice day! 156.34.217.80 (talk) 23:35, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It never states no logos. That was an assumption. Undeath (talk) 03:20, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Baseball
See. They've had three strikes already. And they have no balls. I'd say they get tossed from the game. 156.34.217.80 (talk) 01:05, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also.. check out the block log for . What they got blocked for before... they're back doing it again. :D . 156.34.217.80 (talk) 01:08, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The first IP is blocked already... 1 month. The second IP is one that Alf and I and KOS have spoken about previously. It's almost like it's the "toytown vandal"... only with a Kiss fetish. CambridgeBayWeatherman is more than familiar with the TTV editor. A long time uber disruptor. This new version has been nicknamed... by me on Alf's talkpage... as "the Falsifier". Same modus operandi... but with a Kiss twist.(sounds like an ice cream sundae) :D 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't wanna touch that user without at least one recent warning. I'm shattered again. I'll pull up Undead about canvassing now. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  17:55, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Shattered as in bonked and Wiki can FO while you take a well deserved break? Or shattered as in distrought? Or Shatered as in the Rolling Stones song? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Shattered as in... a few days of well earned rest before my birthday will do me wonders :-) - I'm gonna pack Wikipedia in completely for a few days and maybe make the occasional edit here and there. Maybe the odd Huggle run... apart from that... Wikipedia is in your very capable hands. Pat is very sleep :-) Have a great few days without me! You can buzz me on MSN or mail me if you need any emergency blocks etc. Take care, Libsey! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  18:01, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Then a well deserved rest it is. I shall not interrupt such a noble excursion as a trip to 'non-Wiki-land' (I hope anyways :D ) Enjoy the time away and enjoy your birthday break!!! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 18:11, 17 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, well deserved. Happy early birthday and try to stay off Wikipedia as much as possible for a few days. :)  Enigma  msg! 18:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * And when you do come back.... the "falsifier" is now editing as IP 66.143.119.148. I will keep a running log of this vandal here (if you don't mind) just so I have a list of IPs to jog my mamory from time to time. And no that's not a typo (I just feel like a t*thead) :D. 156.34.210.47 (talk) 23:48, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Vote Wanted
Go here and voice your opinion. Thanks. Undeath (talk) 17:21, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * My Question is... if this editor is going to ignore the first vote and WP:CANVASS for editors to vote again... why isn't he canvassing all the editors/admins (like John, Alf, Papa November, Zytsef, IllaZilla... me :D... etc) to come back and vote again? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:43, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the vote should be brought back due to WP:IAR. Not having any picture at all diminishes the article more than it should be. Undeath (talk) 23:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Voting
I was not vote stacking. If I was, I would have invited people all from a wikigroup. But, if you look at the people I notified, I notified people in the previous discussion as well as admins that have never seen it before. I was gathering new people for a new look on how things should be set up. And, if Wikipedia does not decide things by voting, how does it decide things? Where should I take this issue/proposition? Undeath (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Since there is still a prot on my favourite page :D ....
When you're back this addition can be rv'd ... re" lead-in criteria. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:37, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Hey Libs, I kept an eye out for you, and I asked MoP, but he wants details. See my talk page.  Enigma  msg! 15:46, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Soul did it. No worries. Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  15:54, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Like I said... trying to explain the "falsifier" and his similarities to the toy town vandal is confusing. As simply as I can state (and in keeing with the nickname the KOS and Alf and I use) the editor removes valid information and replaces it with "valid looking but in reality... false" information. Or sometimes just adds false information.... especially in his fetish for childrens TV programs.... which is/was the modus operandi of the toy town vandal. Check any Barney related page. Go back in history and count the IPs the admin CambridgeBayWeather has rv'd.
 * Pat what do you mean "Soul did it?" the block log of the newest falsifier IP shows no blocks in place yet. Just wunderin'. And also wunderin'... aren't you on a break?...Go away... take a break... Wiki will be fine without you :D. actually I think Pat is the most quality-active admin to come down the pipe in quite a while.... but sometime you just have to walk away to preserve "real world sanity" 156.34.142.110 (talk) 16:30, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought you were referring to this edit: . Our friend sssoul got rid of that stuff using the lead in edit summary. I'll take a look at the Falsifier thing again. (I can't take a break! I'm hooked... it's worse than heroin!) Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  16:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Falsifier. I blocked him because you gave him a final warning and he still did his naughty things. Hooah! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat 16:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I've read conversation that CambridgeBayWeather has had concerning this editor (or this copycat if that be the case) The original Toy Town vandal... supposedly... was a user who was 'mentally handicapped' or 'special needs' or whichever term is most PC for you... or perhaps autistic... I guess the editor's sister contacted Wikipedia and explained the obsessive/compulsiveness of this person and so.... on they go. A different IP every other day... but the IPs always seem to come back over time. I never get too many repeat IPs (other then my static one) so I am guess this person edits from a vafe or kiosk where there is a limited bank. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 16:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Looks like only a few admins are familiar with the ttv, like you said. I guess we'll just have to hope that the next time he comes back, one of the admins is on. MoP, like most, didn't know the history, and I know I can't explain it to him.  Enigma  msg! 17:45, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Administrators' noticeboard/3RR
Just to let you know that any four reverts to the same page within 24 hours can warrant a block for 3RR, they don't have to be connected, or the same revert, or the same dispute. (I notice you blocked anyway.) Stifle (talk) (trivial vote) 13:31, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

MSN
Message pending in the chat room. Don't read it for 3 days you're trying to take a break remember :D 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * back from lunch... or still out to lunch. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 16:24, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Help needed
Hey can you do that multi revert thing on list of thrash metal bands? Some IP did a lot of edits on that page related to flags, in clear violation of wp:mosflag, id est, the IP replaced the flag of united kingdom with that of england and ireland in all UK entries. Considering that the flagicons are themselves disputed, this basically sort of worsening the situation. I reverted the US states' flags the IP added, though. Thanks! Weltanschaunng 18:39, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Odd article
Rigó Jancsi is a recently-created article that looks as through it needs a speedy. However, I can't find a criteria to list it under, as it is a cake recipe. It is not nonsense, vandalism, or a test page, and putting it up for AfD would be a waste of time. Am I being blind, or is there a criteria that this could be listed under? Thanks, <font style="color:white;background:#191970;">Fusion <font style="color:#191970;background:white;">Mix 20:26, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * It existed at the time I left that note...apparently it has been deleted. Sorry to bother you. <font style="color:white;background:#191970;">Fusion <font style="color:#191970;background:white;">Mix 20:33, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It's reappeared. Try following the link again. <font style="color:white;background:#191970;">Fusion <font style="color:#191970;background:white;">Mix 20:34, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the tip. I tend to forget about copyvio :). Cheers, <font style="color:white;background:#191970;">Fusion <font style="color:#191970;background:white;">Mix 20:43, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Help Please
Hi Scarian, I see you posted on the 3rr report I placed on Hals edit warring. But you also said "It's certainly edit warring between the two users". Exactly how is rewriting a section, removing original research, and misquoted quotes while documenting exactly what I was doing edit waring on my part? If it is please tell me so I can avoid whatever it was I did that can be called edit waring. Second, can hal just revert everything I did 3 times and get away with edit warring? I thought that wouldn't fly. Another thing I need help with is the article contains what I think is original research. I have posted the question here. Can you direct me to any other page that can help me solve this dispute? Thanks, Kilz (talk) 00:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

When you have time, can you help Sssoul?
After long discussions(and no action) it was hashed out (more than once) that Ron Wood should be moved to Ronnie Wood (currently a re-direct) as this is the name the artist goes by... it's what he is most commonly known as... and even his own website is ronniewood.com. But Sssoul is afraid to do the move as she doesn't wnat to break anything. It is more complicated then just a page move. The original 'Ron Wood' will have to be a re-direct... all the current 'Ron Wood' wikilinks will have to be AWB'd into 'Ronnie Wood' wikilinks plus a few leftover cleanups. Do you think you can help Sssoul out when you get the chance? Perhaps tutor her on how to do the move. But follow up with the AWB's to make it all complete.
 * Speaking of AWB corrections. Do you think you could do an AWB for me. There are a couple dozen "Big" Jim Martin re-direct links that need to be changed into Jim Martin (musician) links. Easier to do with AWB then manually (because I am wiki-lazy) Thanks!!! 156.34.222.121 (talk) 16:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

~*Ronnie!*~
smile smile smile: that looks MUCH better! even his photo looks more like him now. thanks & praises Sssoul (talk) 18:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Another Tarja sock
User:LeickJefferson is another Tarja sock. See commons:Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/Lawless fan. This user is editing the same articles and working on en in conjunction with commons:User:XeniteBrazil. Additioanlly, the user is showing a good working knowledge of WP policies. 216.169.164.70 (talk) 19:57, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

You may not be the reading type
but you may like Swift, he'll help you to find you out what a Confederacy of Dunces is. Tha article idiomatic expression may be instructive to you, too. --Janneman (talk) 00:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

grumble!
Him coming to my talk page, to tell me something I did a few days back, that had in no way effected him and he was in no way a part of..I found unnecessary, there were plenty of admins who involved in the altercation, and they found it fit to not pursue it anymore. But he riding upon his own air of justice decided I needed to be knocked down a notch! He might have asked nicely, but it should be obvious to anyone who looks it over and checks the days that have passed that I do not intend to 'continue trolling that page'. Finding me, and telling me to cease doing something I wasn't even doing... That seems pretty rude and uncivil to me. ShieldDane (talk) 03:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

A very happy birthday wish from Enigma and his cadre
<div class="NavHead" style="border-style: solid; -moz-border-radius: 10px; background: white; text-align: center; border: black solid 1px; padding: 12px; font-size: 120%;"><font face="helvetica" color="#000000">For your birthday and for being an all-around awesome and friendly Wikipedian (and Wikistrator), I send you an Oasis bootleg CD, featuring several different versions of Stand by Me and Don't Go Away.


 * Also, sorry I couldn't be of more help earlier regarding the wireless blogging problem. The one I was thinking of was a refurbished Pantech Duo. Also Palm Centro. Not sure if those fit what you're looking for.  Enigma  msg! 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

When you're around...
IP 68.102.178.172 returned from his last block and kept right on editing where he left off. I am not around today too much. If you peek in could you keep a watch on. Ahoy! 156.34.222.121 (talk) 16:18, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, IP 69.123.126.247 is back from his block (the Dan sock) and needs an admin rollback. 156.34.222.121 (talk) 16:24, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Dan56 is adding FU vios again today too. 156.34.222.121 (talk) 16:26, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

back for a while or just passin' through? 156.34.222.121 (talk) 22:15, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Thank you

 * I'm an author of the wiki article Myrzakulov equations. I'm is a former student of Myrzakulov. Today you reverted these Examples 1-30. But to establish notability of these Myrzakulov equations I think we need these  "quotations". So I would like to ask you be agree restore these Examples 1-30 from Further reading section of my article just until the discussion is closed. Also I would like to ask you help me to keep the article. Ngn 92.46.69.162 (talk) 16:37, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Opportunities for commonality
Really interested to why this has no bearing on the Stone page vis a vis English British vs Amercian English. Mr Anonymous —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.227.57.169 (talk) 22:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Another problem user
is unformatting infoboxes against guidelines. 156.34.215.213 (talk) 11:21, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

NX Zero
Hey, thanks for your very polite message on my talk page :-) (I appreciate the fact that you kindly messaged me about the NX Zero article before taking any action.) You linked me to the guideline page which deals with musical notability; I assume this is because the article doesn't properly state how the band is properly notable? If so, I do sort of agree - though the article cites the source of top-40.com which tells of NX Zero's time on the Brazilian top 40 charts. In my opinion, this satisfies WP:BAND criteria #2, "Has had a charted hit on any national music chart." Am I right in assuming this? If not, please let me know of my mistake or misjudgement, and I'll do my best to change the article to reflect the subject's actual notability. Thanks again for your time, I'll hopefully hear from you soon. -GilbertoSilvaFan (talk) 21:26, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks very much for the changes you made, I think the sentence is a lot clearer now. I agree with you that it barely scrapes by on notability, too - so I'll definitely try and add to it at some time in the future. Also, may I ask how you stumbled across the article? Just for curiosity's sake :-p -GilbertoSilvaFan (talk) 22:27, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

A video you might want to view
here. That's some video taken at the Meetup. At the beginning, you can see David Shankbone presenting.  Enigma  msg! 05:52, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Enigmaman's Warning
He claims to be reverting vandalism, but take a look at his contributions, he was reverting to a completely false statement he made about Luppi being female. Sasuke9031 (talk) 20:18, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Take a look at my contributions. I didn't make any statement at all. You are making a false accusation. Please do not do that.  Enigma  msg! 20:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The user deleted what you posted and accused you of being uncivil. It keeps getting better. :D  Enigma  message 02:47, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Hey!
Hello, Pat! I'm back. I was wondering if you could AfD Viking rock for me. It's another ridiculous article full of OR. Feel free to vote how you like as well if you have an opinion on it. I also AfD'd Deathlike Silence (band) as it failed WP:MUSIC notability requirements. I was wondering if I was correct in that assertion. Thanks! <font color="#0066CC">Blizzard Beast  <font color="#666666">''$ODIN' 20:28, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

re: Foo Fighters
fyi, I sumbitted another incident report for the IP 131.xxx.xxx person which resulted in a three-month IP range block by other editors who looked at it, although I believe the same person is using IPs outside of this range too. Such a waste of time, this whole thing; it's exhausting. Thanks for keeping an eye on all of this. - eo (talk) 18:46, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

when you're around
Next time you're about could you rv this mess. If I do it I'll get snagged by the cluesless cluebot for rm'ing too much of a chunk. 156.34.211.193 (talk) 20:57, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

My talk page
Can you explain your comment on my Talk page? <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I did not know it wasn't vandalism, and I still believe it was an inappropriate tag without an explanation from the tagger and further discussion prior to making a sockpuppet tag. I still don't understand your comments to me. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:05, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

So, let me see if I've got this right. An anonymous IP which has just started editing, knows how to use markup, and therefore is not, by definition, a vandal? <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:13, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

I was sure it was vandalism, or I wouldn't have used rollback. I was mistaken, as it turns out (apparently), but how can that be a static IP when they've only just started editing>? <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:19, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

How can you say this is a static IP? <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:20, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, you provided me with a link to another page altogether, which I would have had no knowledge about prior to my having come in contact with the original IP's edits prior to your putting that link on my talk page. That link is irrelevant to the situation which began all of this. Now that I know that the person behind the IPs is a regular editor, then that changes things, but I would have had no way of knowing that based on the edits that I saw on the first 156.34.211.193 contributions page. I can't be a mind reader. To me, it looked like a newbie IP address (and probably a sock) making accusations without any proof and without any prior contact with the person they were accusing. Now that I know (or at least can gather from what you tell me, but there's no guarantee that the two different IP users are the same person), that changes things, but your repeated tongue lashings of me are completely unwarranted, and I'd request that you stop now. <font face="Arial"> Corvus cornix talk  21:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

68.102.X has a new IP
Circumventing your uber-block on the last IP the new IP is. Right back where he left off. 156.34.211.193 (talk) 01:44, 26 March 2008 (UTC)