User talk:Scarian/Archive 14

WOW!
You are very helpful. I really am very happy to know you on Wikipedia.

You make the situation here as light as a breeze. Do you know what I mean?

I am impressed with your easy abilities. Very nice, Pat.

Electric Japan (talk) 11:54, 7 April 2008 (UTC)


 * No problem :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  11:56, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

My typing ain't so good when I get happy. Electric Japan (talk) 11:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC) Hi Pat.

I hope you are doing okay.

I just attempted to upload another image. I think this will be one of the last. I don't know what exactly I am doing wrong. Templates? Anyways, The Ghost Busters was attempted and almost done, or so I thought.

If possible today, I would love if you could take a swing over to it and check it out.

Are you online now?

Electric Japan (talk) 12:01, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks...as always.

James Electric Japan (talk) 13:27, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks looking after my talk page and cleaning up stuff after me. I seem to be running into you a lot today. =) -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 21:06, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Derrick Rose
Just performed major cleanup on this article. I was thinking maybe it could be gotten to WP:DYK as well. "Did you know... that Derrick Rose's nickname is Pooh, after Winnie-the-Pooh?" I don't know what's gotten into me...  Enigma  message Review 05:37, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Strange compliment in the middle of a vandal spree
There's a thread on ANI about some serial vandalism from the University of Maryland system. In a bizarre twist the vandal has given you a compliment in his/her confession. Thought you might like to know. Toddst1 (talk) 00:56, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Your feedback on the block is valid and you are correct. Thanks.  Toddst1 (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Kameejl's javascript thingy
Hey Pat (given your signature, i'll allow myself to call you Pat :)) You may want to read User_talk:Navnløs and User_talk:Kameejl. I do not exactly regret being sceptic about this, but it does look like that at least me myself was on the wrong thinking path. :) ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 10:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Your blog
- was this posted by you, or someone else? (Out of curiosity.) dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 10:35, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
 * OK...I take it you can't tell me who this is...? Bummer. Cheers. dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 07:43, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Nope, but they don't mean you any harm though :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  08:28, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

thank you
I wasn't trying to edit anyhting. I made the mistake of pressing th wrong buttons. but thank you very much. You are the best admistrator on this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.203.136.247 (talk) 15:49, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * You're right! I am :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  08:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Cayman Islands
Yeah, I wish. As for the accusation that I'm a Republican, well, I did find that funny so you can draw your own conclusions. Nice to meet you! Tvoz | talk 17:43, 10 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh, I read your reference in the Washington Post article (like everyone else who comes here) so I knew straight after then ;-) - Good to know you're a Demmy! Nice to meet you too! Scarian  Call me Pat!  17:44, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: block on Libsey (156.34X)
Hi. If I recall correctly there were three edits from 156.X and one from the other. If that is correct, then 156.X did not technically violate 3RR, whether they edit warred is, I guess, debatable. Cheers TigerShark (talk) 19:42, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

You promised me...
A story! You said you would tell me all about that hilariousness on your talk page about people claiming you had sockpuppets, etc. Too bad it ended. The convo was hilarious. I liked the people pretending to attack with "weapons." Lol. I also noticed you blocked yourself, lmao. I'm guessing that was an accident. Cheers!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 00:05, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * He did have sockpuppets and he deserved a block, so he blocked himself. Good judgment, as always. Shows accountability to himself.  Enigma  message Review 04:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
for this block. I think I've learnt better than to get involved with gallery articles, far too many agendas and egos in play! Unfortunately they fall within the scope of my beloved project so I still end up dealing with it :) Thanks again and have a good day! TRAVELLINGCARI My storyTell me yours 04:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Could you take a look at this?
I didn't want this to fall through the cracks, as the editor has been pretty busy all over Wikipedia regarding the HP thingie. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  06:23, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

User talk:PageantUpdater
Scarian -- I'm reviewing this unblock request. It seems Shankbone was misleading in the report; the "old version reverted to" was actually one of the new versions. PU only reverted three times (indeed, the image PU was trying to change to was only uploaded one minute before the first "revert.") Mind if I reduce this to a warning? Mango juice talk 15:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Yamla refused the unblock so you'd have to speak to them. I blocked for edit warring and not 3RR per se. I'd be willing to take a look at the whole thing though if I didn't have access to the whole picture. Thanks for coming to me. Scarian  Call me Pat!  15:11, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It was unintentionally misleading. I don't know what that means "old version reverted to" - sometimes even I am confused by Wikipedia-speak. -- David  Shankbone  15:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I see now from your comment to Shankbone that you were aware this wasn't exactly a 3RR violation. Yamla's right, of course, that edit warring is bad and blockable even for fewer than 4 reverts.  However, I'm confused as to the unequal treatment here.  Both parties reverted three times over a disagreement, but you only blocked one of them.  What's more, Shankbone has actually been blocked recently for edit warring, whereas PageantUpdater has not.  I don't have a lot of outside context here, but I do know I've seen Shankbone being complained about for aggressively pushing his images on various articles, and I know that a long time ago, PU ran into some trouble over non-free images but that seems to be old news.  Mango juice talk 15:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Just FYI -- the warning was given to PU at 14:39, the same timestamp as PU's last revert. So PU did not continue reverting after the warning.  Mango juice talk 15:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: Re: Revert
Hello! I'm not the person who wrote the section, but if you feel there's more of a POV you're free to address it yourself. ":-)". Rehevkor (talk) 17:17, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you be any more condescending? In the time it took you to revert (which should only be used for vandalism) sourced material back to unsourced (fact tags included), then criticize the editor that did it you could have done it yourself without revealing yourself to be the arrogant petty minded individual you are. Rehevkor (talk) 18:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
 * "You like my smileys, huh? Have some more! :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) There we go! Ha en bra dag, din arsle. (Have a nice day in Swedish!)" about as condescending (and insulting to me) as you can get. I understand your first language might not be English but please be weary of this in the future. Rehevkor (talk) 18:41, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Rollback permission
Hi! Do you have time to check out my contibutions? I would like to be able to use the rollback feature cause it saves me heaps of time. Thanks. Fattyjwoods ( Push my button  ) 00:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * After looking through your contributions I've decided to grant you the rollback! :-) Remember to only use it for clear vandalism and remember not to use it to edit war. Or you'll get me into trouble ;-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  00:15, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi, I'm User:RyRy5. May I have rollback? You can check my contributions too. Thanks.-- RyRy5  Got something to say? 03:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Please see this thread from WP:AN: Administrators%27_noticeboard. It is not an appropriate time to grant this user rollback just yet.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk)  03:39, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * It would be controversial of me to grant you rollback, RyRy5. My apologies. Scarian  Call me Pat!  10:07, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Request for Speedy Deletion
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amy_Lynn_Best

Could you please delete this article?

A template that was uncontested for five days has been on this wiki page. The Mike Watt writer page was also deleted, which was recently deleted for similar reasons. This other page also is used by the same author to blantantly advertise his amateur acting/writing career. Thanx for helping to make Wiki a better place and thanx for your time spent on wiki page maintenance.Poyoyloar (talk) 05:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Amber chess tournament
Hi,

I appreciate your offer to mediate, and would like you to initiate it. Perhaps on a page in your user space? If user agrees, of course. Guido den Broeder (talk) 09:41, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi Scarian, thanks for your offer, but knowing the situation around Guido, I'm quite sure mediation won't do anything in this case. GijsvdL (talk) 22:07, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I am taking it for granted that I am now allowed to edit chess articles, while user is not. Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:13, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

Nej, Guido and Gijsvdl, it's your own choice on whether you edit chess articles or not but please be aware that both of your separate contributions will come under scrutiny. I have offered to mediate to prevent future blockings. If you show willingness to co-operate together and to accept peace and harmony into your lives on Wikipedia then that is very positive. By immediately dismissing my offer, Gijsvdl, you've shown that you don't want to work together. I recommend that the disputed content in question be analysed to remove any WP:POV, et al. Do you wish to do this or not? If you have any questions please do not hesitate to contact me. Scarian Call me Pat!  15:34, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I would be happy to see it analysed. I'd like to add, though, that IMHO it works best if chess articles are edited by chess players, stock market articles by editors knowledgable in that area, etc. If all chess players agree that it is relevant and neutral to include tournament books, then I believe they should be listened to, and not opposed by users who have never shown any interest in chess articles before, and insist that some books should be removed while other books can stay. Guido den Broeder (talk) 15:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Guido den Broeder
You have recently tried to mediate in the dispute between i.a. and. Since the mediation appears to have failed, I have raised this issue on the conflict of interest noticeboard. I would like to ask you to join the discussion there, at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard. A ecis Brievenbus 22:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree that WP:COIN is a good place to discuss this issue, and from your participation at 3RR I see you are one of the admins most familiar with the issue. I wonder if we could get Guido to voluntarily agree to refrain from editing articles or adding links to any publications he has a connection to. To back up such a proposal, it would help to have an admin who is willing to enforce an article ban. While we're not quite there yet, and would need to discuss the idea first at COIN, I wonder what you think about such an approach. EdJohnston (talk) 16:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but that would not be acceptable to me. Let's try to have a sensible discussion first, shall we? Besides, here is a much simpler solution that hurts nobody. Guido den Broeder (talk) 17:18, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Err... like what? Scarian  Call me Pat!  17:36, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Like using the guideline. It was designed to deal with these situations, after all, and from my experience in designing guidelines, I think it's pretty well written. Guido den Broeder (talk) 17:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Online?
Hello. I am having a problem with posting up a pic of Larry Storch on his page.

Could you help,Pat? It won't go into a box I created for the picture.Image:Larry_Storch.jpg Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 18:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

Another question
I was on the Jack Pierce (make-up artist) page and had trouble with the same problem with boxing up the picture. My words are there but invisible. Can you lend some help? Thanks, Electric Japan (talk) 19:55, 17 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Done both of them. All you have to add to it is "|thumb" (minus quotes) after the image name. If you need anything else, don't hesitate to ask :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  20:23, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

You are truly very special. I want to thank you at this time in so many ways.

Cheap Trick The page has the same similar problem near the bottom. You are a great help. WoW!

Thank you, Electric Japan (talk) 10:25, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

THANKS,Pat! Electric Japan (talk) 13:12, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrong version
GODDAMNIT IM PISSED! Sorry, but I KNOW there's an article on wikimedia or something that talks about leaving the wrong version of an article up until consensus is reached. I NEED that rule as I want to cite it in this little stupid edit war I have going with this user. On the NWOAHM page. It's supposed to be a redirect to metalcore and he keeps edit warring with me. I started a conversation on the metalcore talk page, and I want to cite that rule!!!!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I won't canvass. I don't know if I can stop myself reverting him. He is the one breaking rules, not me.  You don't know the rule? DAMN.  I've had that rule cited to me a few times in the past already.  I can't find it, though.  It states that even if you believe the "wrong version" of a page is up do not continually edit and leave it there and discuss it instead.  Kind of a double edged sword since if you're the one citing that rule, how come you're not following it?  But as I said, I've had users cite it to me before and I got blocked for edit warring before (as you already know) and admins told me that rule.  I think the rule is stupid, because who determines which version is the "wrong version," and why should I get blocked over that when they were clearly breaking the rule as well and not leaving the "wrong version" up.  But w/e.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:19, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * HA! I found it!  Thank google! http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/The_Wrong_Version  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh no. It was a humor page.  WTF! That is not fair! A few people cited that "rule" to me to stop me fighting with them and it turns out that it's just a humor page!? Now I'm really upset.  I was duped.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the protection of that page, though, anyways.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:26, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

Just curious
Did you delete the external links on the Analog hole article (only one of which I originally posted) as SPAM as an excuse for their removal or because you actually think they are SPAM? 71.100.174.134 (talk) 04:04, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

SPAM? Disruption? Block evasion?
Out class took a few minutes to discuss whether,
 * 1) these are trumped up excuses,
 * 2) our time is better spent elsewhere,
 * 3) to include the Wikipedia in our budget again this year, and
 * 4) we can achieve a permanent block for the entire domain without doing any of the above should we vote in favor of item #2 when we reconvene our meeting on Monday, April 21:00 UTC for further discussion and to take a vote.

In the interim we invite your response as an aid in helping us come to a rightful decision. Have a nice day. 71.100.174.134 (talk) 12:29, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

Accidental Blocking
Don't worry about blocking me; I didn't even notice but for your message! TheMile (talk) 16:12, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Re: RfA comment
heyy, thats not my editing, i share this computer with my brother and therefore we use the same ip--Thfrang 10:54, 22 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thfrang (talk • contribs)


 * Right... your RfA is going to be closed anyway as per WP:SNOW. Scarian  Call me Pat!  10:56, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

whats wrong with me spelling wrong? people make mistakes and it saves time to ABBREVIATE. and honestly, if you think im naughty, u shoud get banned for insulting me, because that is an insulting term —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thfrang (talk • contribs) 10:58, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

heyy, ok i admit ive done some wrong things here. but im actually trying to make a difference believe it or not. all that everyone is doing is pointing out my flaws and not telling me anythign good that i am doing, which i think im am doing a reasonable amount of good. please help me and dont jsut tell me wat im bad at, but what im good at. that way i might actaully be able to improve. btw, wit th racism thing, i didnt mean it seriously, i know it is an offence, and i am sorry. please help me become good at this. thnx man--Thfrang 11:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thfrang (talk • contribs)

ye thnx for th advice. i always reference where possible, and one main reason i revert people's changes is because they do not have references and i try 2 tell them 2 but they choose not to. see thats what im talking about, people could compliment me on that, but all they do is tell me THATS WRONG, YOURE BAD, things like that. i thank you for your help, im trying to be nice, so please be nice to me as well :).--Thfrang 11:28, 22 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thfrang (talk • contribs)

Re: enigman
I appreciate you're helping your friend here, but come on. I've no idea why he would do those things, appearances matter and really I find it difficult to see past his hysterical behaviour. He certainly doesn't know policy, and if you are his friend really you should help him on this one as I won't be the last person like that he'll run into. My attitude towards him only hardened only after his own inappropriate responses, and I would suggest if he acts like that in future he'll encounter such problems quite alot. May generally be a good editor, but per his responses to me and User:Irpen (check his edit summaries too), has serious emotional and civility issues he needs to address. All the best, Deacon of Pndapetzim ( Talk ) 12:33, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

email
Check your email. Thanks! Hiberniantears (talk) 15:55, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

Redspruce
You commented at the active ANI on RedSpruce, now the deletion of quotes in the citations has moved to the article Melvin Purvis, this is now after 3 ANIs, and at least 2 RFCs, and a 24 hour block. The consensus at all being that using the quote parameter in citations is not cluttering the article, but is helpful in documenting the sometimes controversial information in the article. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 14:02, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

Page protection.
Hey Pat. I have a question regarding an article, and thought you may be able to help me out finding what to do. If you happen to be too busy, feel free to ignore this message for now, there is no hurry. Although I am not all that new to wikipedia anymore, I have never really came across the issues of page protection. I have an article on my watchlist which has faced vandalism over the past weeks. The article in question is Ragnarok Online, some online game i used to play a while back. (Small explanation what this is all about here). Now, as there were only IP edits before, I have requested page protection, and the article was semi-protected for a couple of days. Yet, some seldomly used accounts kept adding the spam (my best guess would be that there is a call to do so at their forum), and IPs continued after the semi-protection was removed. Now, it is still going on on a 1-2 day basis. What would be the best way to continue on the matter? Obviously, this is not an article that should be semi-protected permanently. Still, i don't see any stop to it as long as nothing is done. Would you recommend simply requesting another semi-protection phase? Any ideas would be helpful. Thanks. :) ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 17:22, 26 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Hello Pat. If you have the time; The spam on this page has started again immediately after the page protection period was over. What do you recommend? Is a (afterall minor) issue like this worth requesting the URL to be blacklisted? Thanks. ~ | twsx | talkcont | ~ 13:10, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Please don't put words in my mouth
I never said anything even remotely approaching "The encyclopedia is more important than someone's life." Please stop putting words in my mouth. It is wholly inappropriate. Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 15:01, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * That's what it came across as. Thanks for your comment. Scarian  Call me Pat!  16:43, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I fail to see how that would be even remotely possible, unless you simply didn't bother to actually read it. Kurt Weber ( Go Colts! ) 22:06, 27 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, originally I had no idea what you were going on about... so I took a stab in the dark as to what you meant. Night night! Scarian  Call me Pat!  22:19, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

Greetings?
Hey, Pat. How are you? We haven't talked in a long time and I couldn't help but notice that the last time I tried to talk to you, I was ignored. Perhaps you don't want to speak with me anymore? Anyways, just thought I'd say hi, see if I could talk to a wikifriend. I've been doing well (actually a lot of good things have happened recently in my life) and I've been getting a ton of productive editing again, although I was blocked again =( (yup, you guessed, for genre delimiter edit warring, just like all my other blocks). A small setback. I need to be safer in the future. The editors who kept changing pages to comma breaks for no reason were eventually all reverted but I still got blocked for my early part in the reverting. It seems unfair that whoevever gets warned first for edit warring and reported first is the one who gets blocked. Those other editors did much more reverting and warring than me, but I suppose these things happen. Respond if you can (or want)!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 23:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I thought it might be unintentional. Yeah, in the future I'll try and keep that in mind. Eh, it might be my age but I happen to think it has nothing to do with it. I'm just opinionated about certain things and yeah, I do have a slight temper with people I deem...well, let's not go there. I'll definitely add you. You take care as well!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 01:57, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I...I...I don't know what you're talking about! I...I can seriously explain! Well I added you on MSN. Then, when you accept the add, I'll show you a pic of me and my girlfriend =).  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 15:43, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Well to be honest I don't get on MSN very often. I mostly send emails. I just don't have the time to sit there and type aback and forth that much. But I will certainly email you!  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 16:45, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Uh, ok. What is your gmail one?  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 17:08, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok, cool.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 17:55, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, are you sure you emailed the right address? I still have not gotten your email.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 18:13, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Requests for comment/Guido den Broeder
Hello. I've started this RfC/U, which contains a link to a discussion you had with this editor as evidence. Fram (talk) 12:50, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

The Beatles "are"
How dare those nasty Brits, trying to change American English! Don't they know that English started ... uh oh ... never mind. Ward3001 (talk) 18:12, 1 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Excuse me! The Beatles are British, so they should have their article in British/Australian English. And English started in Britain. AND DON'T INSULT SCARIAN'S NATIONALITY OR MY BACKGROUND! STEAMING THOUGHT! AND THE TERM "BRIT" IS RACISM! UGH! RoryReloaded (talk) 21:56, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Aww, don't worry, Rory! I wasn't offended and you shouldn't be either :-) - It's okay for people to call each other by their nationalities in slang. You guys call us "poms" and that's fine by me :-) - He was just joking around... notice how he was going to say that English originated in America? That's funny, ja? :-) - Just don't worry about it, mate. Take care! Scarian  Call me Pat!  22:04, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * ( ( ( Ok. RoryReloaded (talk) 21:42, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

) ) )

New Project
Myself and several other editors have been compiling a list of very active editors who would likely be available to help new editors in the event they have questions or concerns. As the list grew and the table became more detailed, it was determined that the best way to complete the table was to ask each potential candidate to fill in their own information, if they so desire. This list is sorted geographically in order to provide a better estimate as to whether the listed editor is likely to be active.

If you consider yourself a very active Wikipedian who is willing to help newcomers, please either complete your information in the table or add your entry. If you do not want to be on the list, either remove your name or just disregard this message and your entry will be removed within 48 hours. The table can be found at User:Useight/Highly Active, as it has yet to have been moved into the Wikipedia namespace. Thank you for your help. Useight (talk) 06:55, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Side Boxes
Hi Pat!

How does one make the side boxes for documenting the subject of the article. Plus! Can you check out the image for The Ghost Busters. I think there is some kind of image license probem. Thank you! Electric Japan (talk)


 * Hi Electric Japan, your image for The Ghost Busters looks okay to me. The thing at the side is called an infobox. Read that to get an idea of what it is :-) Hope this helps! Don't hesitate to contact me if you need anything. Scarian  Call me Pat!  17:57, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

I took care of some vandal, figured it out on my own. Big Thanks For The Help,Pat! Electric Japan (talk) 16:38, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Pat are you online now? Electric Japan (talk) 16:51, 6 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry, he's not. It's the middle of the night! Can I help?  Enigma  message 02:56, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Another Tarja Sock
Hey. As the closing admin of Suspected sock puppets/Tarja Lawless, I was wondering if you could look at Suspected sock puppets/Nighttemptation. I believe this is another of Tarja's socks but so far nothing has happened with the report. Collectonian (talk) 20:19, 4 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Done and indef blocked. Sometimes SSP's take a while as so few admins watch it. Thanks for your report. If you find anymore it'll probably be quicker to come straight to me or User:Enigmaman. Thank you! Scarian  Call me Pat!  20:35, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Scarian, can you also factor in the data I've gathered at User:SandyGeorgia/Glitter ? Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 20:48, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly would you like me to do, friend? :-) Scarian  Call me Pat!  16:26, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure there's anything to be done; just wanted you to be aware of the data I'd stored in case a connection reveals itself. Thanks for the offer :-) Sandy Georgia  (Talk) 16:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure thing! :-) (If anything does appear you can e-mail me, it'd be a lot quicker as I'm not as active anymore) Scarian  Call me Pat!  16:33, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Two issues I need your help with
First off, Lykantrop broke the WP:1RR rule you set for both of us. He reverted the New Wave of American Heavy Metal to his version, again. He must have done this in direct violation of what you said or he must not have understood. I'm reporting this to you now so that you may take the appropriate action. Lykantrop is not a bad user, I believe, but he has consistently refused to discuss his edits on the NWOAHM page without continually editing the NWOAHM page to his preferred version. It's not up to me whether you block him or not, but I would appreciate if you reverted his edit on NWOAHM (as I don't want to do it myself and get in trouble). I kept showing proof to him why he could not make that page and he just refused to listen. Second I have an issue on the Shadows Fall page (which I find ironic as I am not even a fan of the band). I removed thrash metal from their genres as the band has never played that style of music and User:Burningclean continually reverted me and added in a source. However, for reasons you can read on the Shadows Fall talk page, his addition was incorrect. He continues to war, though, and refuses to discuss it. Thanks for any help.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 22:34, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for handling both situations swiftly and with justness, Pat. I'm gonna try and gather some consensus on the Shadows Fall page so we can determine whether or not they are metalcore or thrash metal. I can see I was right to come to you instead of continuing to war. In the future I'll probably do that again, instead of warring and getting blocked.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 19:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

3RR
The problem is PiCo kept reverting, saying my edit was saying exactly the same thing, when it wasn't. So now, no action has been taken, he or she hasn't responded again to talk because he/she reverted it again for the fourth time to retain his/her preferred version (which means it still contains the unsourced error). Faith (talk) 23:00, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
 * This has been resolved to the satisfaction of both parties with a third opinion. Thank you Faith (talk) 11:22, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

An answer to your question
My account won't stay logged in when I am at work. I work for a credit and loan office and we have no permissions on our computers. I can't add en.wikipedia to my secure site list because I don't have proper computer permission to do so. That means everytime I go to a new page it logs me out. So I just said to hell with it. I don't edit here very much anyways because the place has too many negative users like that line break idiot. But I will plug away when I can. 99.251.226.121 (talk) 16:31, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello
Greetings! Am am the user you blocked for 1 day because of the actions on the New Wave of American Heavy Metal article. At first - I will not complain about that, cause I know you warned us on Talk:Metalcore that you would do that (I just red it too quickly and didn't get the point of it - my fault). I need some small help from you, an administrator, now. I know I did some edit war on that article. And as I am learning to contribute to Wikipedia I will not do that anymore. The point is that you told us not to change the article in any way. But that would not be edit warring. If somebody adds cources (and change the circumstances) I do not think that it is edit warring as WP:EDITWAR says. But well I still understand and accept that it is just better to discuss the whole think before ANY editing. That is what I did too. The discussion seems to be over. All arguments are solved (as I see them). User:Navnløs is just saying that there is no NWOAHM etc. and I explained it to him (particulary the discussion is running in circles, he did not show me any source after my multiple requests, his claims are original research and he is openly saying just his opinion. He is trying to find always new and new absurd arguments or is repeating his old ones). Now you can see fully reliably sourced article here: User:Lykantrop/Sandbox2. I am still opened for every improve of course. I just want you to tell me if and when can I put it there. Thanks for reading. --  LYKANTROP   19:51, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I already provided proof as other users did. Just look at the talk page on metalcore. The term is pure neologism. Besides, I'm not the one who needs to provide proof that it doesn't exist. Rahter you have to find proof that it does exist. The burden of proof is on you. My arguments are sufficient ones, which is why you find me repeating them, even though you don't seem to want to listen to them. As I said, read the metalcore talk page. Kameejl unearthed some new "proof" that the article shouldn't exist. And I did provide you sources when you asked for them.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 21:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I response to Navnløs/Blizzard Beast on Talk:Metalcore.--  LYKANTROP   22:24, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Greetings again! Navnløs/Blizzard Beast looks like he understood it after all. And be sure that I would make no edit warring anymore. I will follow WP:1RR.--  LYKANTROP   08:45, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Re:
It isn't content dispute. It has been agreed that these articles should include the denomination, as with every other biographical article on Wikipedia and I have already warned User:WWGB not to sabotage these articles and remove the denomination. He insists on continuing to do so. Block him please, at least temporarily, because his editing is becoming very disruptive. LahoreKid (talk) 20:11, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

He is also uncivil. After warning him on his talkpage, this is how he replied. LahoreKid (talk) 20:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)

MOS on capitalization of links to articles
Could you clarify on this edit? I didn't see anything specifically covering it at WP:MOSCAPS when I skimmed through. My impression (I could easily be wrong) has been that to the contrary, the convention is to capitalize the first letter of the article when linking to it like that. IIRC, at one point otheruses4 or some similar template actually capitalized the first character of the linked title automatically. If there's been a decision to the contrary, I'd be interested to know. Thanks. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 14:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for your message. I was going by common sense; "file", in this instance, isn't a pronoun and shouldn't be capitalised. If I'm wrong, then fair enough. But it should've been in the 'See also' section, which I realised later on, anyway. Thanks again. Scarian  Call me Pat!  14:28, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Emergency
Hey, Pat. Sorry to bother you again. On both the metalhead and heavy metal fashion talk pages I left a comment a while back that I would delete all the OR on those pages (which is basically everything). Well I tried to do just that a couple days ago. However, User:Badagnani reverted me. Now I didi it again today and him and another user reverted me. The other user left a warning on my page but when I told them what was up, the user struck out their warning and apologized. However the other user whose name I mentioned won't stop reveting me and won't discuss it. I left multiple vandalism and edit warring warnings on his page and left comments which he did not respond to. He continually reverted me even though I tried to explain. He has violated WP:3RR. He's obviously a fan of those two pages and doesn't want to see them snuffed out and warned me twice to stop blanking. That's all he ever said, though. I told him I wans't blanking and that I just deleted a bunch of OR (everything besides the intro sentence). He refuses to talk. I don't wanna revert him anymore at risk of violating WP:3RR and hurting myself.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 19:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Help, please? Thanks.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 19:27, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

WBOSITG's RfA
 Hello Scarian, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank you for your participation in my RfA which was passed with a final tally of 114/10/4. I'm both shocked and honoured to gain so much support from users whom I admire and trust, and I hope I can avoid breaking that backing by being the best administrator I possibly can. I will take on board the opposition's comments and I hope to improve over the coming months and years. Once again, thank you!  weburiedoursecrets inthegarden  20:28, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Smallville
The Smallville page is listing that Allison Mack has resigned and while it was reported by Mike Aussiello that she resigned it is not offical. Doesn't something like that have to be offical before you put it on a page. I know I have been told alot of times on here not to post something unless it is offical. Mike Ausiello is not offical he is just a reporter for TVguide.com who has already been wrong 3 times about the whole Allison Mack staying and going thing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.137.237 (talk) 20:49, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

WP:HAU has a new format
Due to popular demand, HAU has a new look. Since the changes are so dramatic, I may have made some mistakes when translating the data. Please take a look at WP:HAU/EU and make sure your checkmarks are in the right place and feel free to add or remove some. There is a new feature, SoxBot V, a recently approved bot, automatically updates your online/offline status based on the length of time since your last edit. To allow SoxBot V to do this, you'll need to copy to your userpage. Obviously you are not required to add this to your userpage, however, without this, your status will always be "offline" at HAU. Thanks. Useight (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

TJTerry
I left TimVickers a message already, but if he doesn't see it before you, I think action should be taken (against TJTerry, heh). I remember you were involved with him as well. Recent contributions.  Enigma  message 03:34, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah, nevermind now. TV got it. Cheers anyway,  Enigma  message 07:06, 18 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I've raised this at AN/I here. Tim Vickers (talk) 18:15, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

A lot of Vandalism on Wiki
Pat, I know you have been busy. I have been dealing with a lot of vandalism on my pages I have submitted text. I can't believe the rudeness from individuals who claim to be editors on Wiki. I had no idea how hard it is to deal with under 20s on here. The whole concept of Wiki has left me speechless.

User:Fair Deal is not what I would call a professional editor. Unappropriate messages sent by him. His page has little to add to the imagination. I find this user to be close to offensive to be an editor User:Fair Deal I find it uncomfortable, his language and attitude online. Another would be User:Indopug I just am not encouraged from what I am seeing from these two pranksters. Electric Japan (talk) 15:22, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

User_talk:Ditsy5154
Would you mind reviewing your block? Their posts on my userpage were misplaced messages, not harrassment, and I'm in conversation with them at the moment. Thanks. GBT/C 19:53, 20 May 2008 (UTC)


 * The block wasn't because of you. It was because of this and this.  Enigma  message 19:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, I see what you mean.  Enigma  message 19:56, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * (ec)I realise that - I commented on the report to WP:AIV accordingly. As for the diffs, well, they were blocked for the first one, and I gave them a vand4im warning for the second one - if they're stringing me along then we'll find out soon enough. GBT/C 19:57, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry - don't know what the top bit of the edit was about - may have hit a button on my toolbar on the way to type. My earlier comment about your reviewing your block still applies, though! GBT/C 21:16, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * E-mail received. Fair enough. GBT/C 21:35, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Hey Pat
Just wondering if you would impart some advice to some users for me, as I'm not in the position to do so myself. Me and that user (User:Badagnani) and now another user, are having problem on the metalhead article. What do you think of the situation? I keep removing all the original research from the article, which is everything but the intro sentence per WP:OR and WP:V. I do this because I've seen users do the same thing before. Information must be verified with reliable sources, correct? I've seen other users delete almost whole articles per those policies and I reverted them in the past, only to be told that I was in the wrong per WP:V. Makes sense. Now I do the same thing and User:Badagnani doesn't seem to understand. I was hoping you could talk to him. His excuses for his reverts have been things like, "We must be thoughtful in all edits we make, and the massive blanking of basic information about...fans does not enhance these articles for our users." He also says things a lot to the effect that we must always think of the users first and should have information for them to view about subjects [even when it's wrong it seems]. I think his attitude is extremely dangerous. Yes, we must think of the users first, which is why we cannot allow misinformation on wikipedia. Things have to be verified with reliable sources, and if that means deleting a bunch of unsourced stuff, then we must do that per WP:V. I would appreciate any help on the metalhead article and with the afore mentioned user. Please correct his misunderstanding as I have repeated it a million times and he refuses to read WP:V and/or believe me. Thanks.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN' 22:25, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, User:Lykantrop, broke what you said again and reverted you on NWOAHM. That's a little dense, but I won't say anything more about him.  Blizzard Beast  ''$ODIN'

RyRy5 and DYK
No, I hadn't heard about the problems with his DYK and copyvio. It must have occurred in the timeframe in which I was setting up the Bowling WikiProject or the Highly Active Users project. For a while there, those two were taking up all my editing energy and I was kind of oblivious to what the rest of the community was doing. However, with those two finally on their feet, I should be more in tune with the breaking news. Thanks for letting me know. Useight (talk) 20:17, 21 May 2008 (UTC)


 * He just archived it, but it's all there. It was multiple DYK copyvios. I also saw your comment to him on rollback. He's now lost it three times I think and promised not to ask for it again. SteveC has also warned against it -- there's a long discussion on User:Keeper76's talk page archive as welll as it all went pear shaped there and Steve's page. Just uh, heads up what you're getting into. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 20:56, 21 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks so much for your support in my RfA, which closed successfully this morning. TravellingCarithe Busy Bee 19:48, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

The Point-One Cabal
Thank'ee much for joining! Your request has been approved and you are now a proud member of Wikipedia's only counter-vandalism cabal! Want a userbox to go along with it? (Also, we've got an InvisionFree board; check the cabal page.)

Scrarian, my man! Haven't seen you since I left IRC. Do you really fight vandals a lot?  21655  ταλκ / 01ҁ 23:23, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Life.temp
Four hours is stale? Could he at least be warned? Marskell (talk) 20:38, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Sighs... 4 hours is borderline stale I admit. I'll look further into it, my friend. Scarian  Call me Pat!  20:39, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Four hours is borderline annoying when you've been waiting two hours...but hey, I suppose I could do more admin work on 3RR requests. Marskell (talk) 20:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * I think I'm the only regular admin at 3RR. Anyways, I see he's only made one revert today... Any more evidence of edit warring? I trust your judgement because you're an admin but I can't block with only one rv today... Scarian  Call me Pat!  20:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I was half-expecting there would be no block, given that 27 hours is not 24 hours and that (under this account anyway) he has not been blocked previously. But I was hoping, at least, for an uninvolved admin warning. He's been deleting sections on a whim for weeks. The evidence is in the history. He stays just this side of 3RR and DISRUPT—a "semi-troll," you might say—so I dunno what to do. Four reverts overtop of three editors seemed enough to bring to the noticeboard.


 * But you sound busy, if you're the only admin regular at 3RR! No need to wade through all of this case. I'll just have to live with the crap for the timebeing. (And geez, I do spend a lot of idle time staring at my watchlist—I'll try to look at 3RR complaints some more.) Marskell (talk) 21:09, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Thx, Scarian. Do note that you may be bombarded with hundreds of words about why I'm an asshole from the account in question. I will reply to any good faith request from you re my behaviour.
 * Also. if you don't want others invovled in your 3RR fiefdom, no worries! It seems like a pain-in-the-ass anyway :). Marskell (talk) 21:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Left comment on my page. Life.temp (talk) 23:08, 24 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, Pat. If you don't want to read people's explanations, you shouldn't be warning them. People are entitled to give their view, and if you are going to threaten them, you should be willing to listen. Calling the content dispute "petty" isn't neutral or polite. An admin on admin business should be neutral and polite. Life.temp (talk) 21:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

An issue with academic source for article on Ozzy Osbourne
I am new to editing Wikipedia, as I think you know. I have been trying to add a reference to an academic article of interest to the article on Ozzy Osbourne. I have been blocked from putting this up a number of times by editors (suspiciously) using the exact same lines of argument against me. In reading the Wikipedia guidelines, however, it does not appear that their arguments hold up. Firstly, they cite the lack of notability of the author. However, I have argued (both in my own talk page and the discussion of the Ozzy site) that the author is 1) an academic, who 2) has published this particular article in a refereed academic journal, and 3) has been cited in independent sources (as verified by a Google search for both the author and the article in question). It seems to me that the subject of the academic article is of direct relevance to the discussion of Controversy between Ozzy and accusations of Satanism. Readers will be interested to follow up on this link that I wish to provide. Anger22 and Wikilibs have both (again suspiciously) asserted some conflict of interest as a secondary argument, but again referring to the guidelines on Wikipedia, I don't see how there could be a COI here. The article does not promote the interests of anyone in particular, but is directly relevant to the discussion of controversy on the Ozzy article. What is the problem? How can I get this resolved? I have initiated discussions on both my talk page and the Ozzy discussion, but these have not produced dialogue. I will also note that the same editors attempted to block a reference from the same author reviewing the film I Am Legend in another academic journal. The same arguments were invoked, but a third party seems to have resolved that issue by agreeing that the scholarly article is appropriate. In this context, the third party asked Anger22 to explain his assertion of COI, but Anger22 has remained silent on the issue. Thanks for your help.Wikigonish (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Take a break Pat
You've been at it too much today Pat. Take a break. Come back tomorrow. Libs (talk) 21:49, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Matas666
Hey Scarian I'm having a problem with a user that keeps pushing his pov into things. He keeps labeling the band deathcore when I have referenced them already. Could you please knock some sense into him? Also, I hope I didn't pass WP:3RR for it that would suck. Thanks. − ₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  22:50, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Khairy Jamaluddin article
I reported a continued series of unexplained removals of info from the Khairy Jamaluddin article by User:Parlimen Rembau to the 3RR notice board. However you declined to take any action noting that the situation had become stale. However if you take a look at the article's edit history, you'll see that this user has begun continually reverting again without any explanation and despite 3RR warnings on his talk page. Singopo (talk) 12:48, 25 May 2008 (UTC)