User talk:Scarian/Archive 5

Re: Your attention
Yeah, the edit summary is misleading. There is no consensus to use line breaks, and my (albeit biased) interpretation is that the more likely outcome is standardization on commas. --PEJL 18:35, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm no expert, but b) I don't think a vandalism warning is appropriate, as this edit isn't vandalism. As for a) there isn't any such policy or guideline that I know of. Such an edit seems slightly more appropriate than the other editor's change though (as that incorrectly implies a consensus exists). Try to avoid getting dragged into an edit war. Better to comment on the user's talk page or even better at Template talk:Infobox Musical artist. (If you do, please try to read through the entire discussion first. I know it's long...) ---PEJL 19:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Well, we'll have to wait and see. --PEJL 19:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Is it worth it?
I understand you are upset with me making the IM page have a line break, which I don't understand, but really, is it worth your while to get me banned because of that? Not only do I think banning me for that is ridiculous, but it is also unneccesarily time-consuming. What harm is it for me to change some pages to line breaks? I'm no troll and you know it, and I'm sure we both know I have things to contribute to wikipedia and I'm no vandal, so why get me banned about such a small issue? Why even worry about it? Especially, when I contribute in other ways and am not a vandal. Navnløs 23:12, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I was blocked and I can't help thinking you were instrumental in this action. Also I would like to point out to you that Cannibal Corpse is Jim Carrey's favorite band...it says so on his page right here on wikipedia.  Also, I DID NOT break the three revert rule!  I reverted it twice today! 165.196.83.17 00:26, 6 November 2007 (UTC)


 * This right here shows that Cannibal Corpse is his favorite band. Well look at that, right here on wikipedia and it's sourced and everything. 165.196.83.17 00:28, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Belated answer to your question
We do not have that book nor do I have access to it through my online "readers" account (a librarian perk). It does read a little bit "too pretty" doesn't it? Not sure what options are out there for investigation. Try the copyvio talk page. 156.34.223.225 01:11, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
 * PS: when you are discussing, what you have been discussing with Edgar and TG and etc... it may help them if you point out "the bold agenda here and here To me, more than the other policy vios... those 2 bold and brazen announcements of a pre-meditated E_war speak as much volume as the the edit history itself. I have been tutoring the young'n on image policy and such. He has responded in a positive way to attempt to understand what WP:FAIR is all about. I do not normally AGF for too many editors (at last count 5 :D ) ... you and Funeral and PEJL being just a few of the only "non-admins" to win my respect :D but I am holding out hope that after a block (or 2) Mr Navalarse will learn how Wiki works. Patience grasshopper, patience... even uber-troll Mr Tic-Tac-Paddy-Wack makes the occasional good edit did I just say that? :D 156.34.223.225 01:25, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

In Remembrance...
--nat Alo! Salut! Sunt eu, un haiduc?!?! 01:17, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

I am Responding To Your Note
Thank you for the beer offer. I am not a drinker. But I appreciate your fun offer. I don't edit often. When I come to Wikipedia the first thing I do is check the Iron Maiden article (my favorite band) to see if its been vandalized. I had noticed that user's edit war the other day. He had been issued a warning but never reported to an administrator. I did a 3RR report but nothing happened. I've also seen the same style of edits from a different user who has been very uncivil. The other user had a request for comment case created about them because they broke the no personal attacks rule along with a few others. Because that other user has ignored warnings and continued their attacks I reported them on the administrators noticeboard yesterday afternoon but so far my report has been ignored. Strangely it has been brought up over on the comment case page that the abusive user might be a sockpuppet for the Iron Maiden edit warrior from yesterday. Maybe my report on the noticeboard will draw some attention the the request for comment case. I play in a band and travel so I won't be back to Wikipedia for a few days. Hopefully there won't be anymore edit wars. 216.21.150.44 11:38, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

The X-Files
Thank you for your message. I have reverted once again and begun a discussion of the matter on the talk page. Feel free to add your tuppence worth if it is of interest to you. Cheers! --- RepublicanJacobite  The'FortyFive'  22:37, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Sockpuppet
Would you stump a sock tag on that Hooks101 editor from the Iron Maiden editor. If he know more than one person is on to him he will abandon it. And then make another one :D... and then... the fun begins again. 156.34.142.110 19:39, 7 November 2007 (UTC) 156.34.142.110 19:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * FYI Sock tags can go on the talk page too. 156.34.142.110 20:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * If the user is... who he says he is... the he needs a lesson in WP:ENGVAR. Mr Darth isnt SEGA... but he has many skeletons of his own including linkspamming.
 * I can AGF and hear him out... but he should be VP blacklisted (since his previous account was too) 156.34.142.110 20:11, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Just to add. I can AGF... but it is thin... very thin. I run a script to highlight "certain" usernames in the recent changes window... it's how I get around so fast when it comes to vandals. The user has pleaded his case. But I am adding their name to my reader for future reference. With SEGA's IP active again I am not turning a blind eye to any new "red name" user accounts. If SEGA slips past then Wikipedia is at risk of being filled with copyvio. (his major crime) There were 2 users who were very diligent in SEGA hunting. One is on hiatus and the other took a 1 week Wikibreak back in January and has never returned (I will assume they have quit). So its up to a new crew to keep him at bay. If I made a mistake today then I am sorry for leading you down the path of Wiki-police brutality :D . But, like I said, until SEGA's IPs are re-blocked... I am trusting no one. 156.34.142.110 20:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

HAHAHA!!!! And then again... That has to be the funniest F_up I've seen in awhile. You may go ahead and nail him for who he is Mr S. I will add his "Hooks" name to the list of naughty puppets!. Isn't Wikipedia fun :D. 156.34.142.110 20:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Is that hilarious or what!!!!! I've always thought SEGA was shifty and dishonest... but never stupid. My AGF wasn't going to allow too much freedom for him anyways. His edits today weren't overly destructive. He will be back. Add every single article even remotely related to Phish to your watchlist.(his favourite) He already been editing them in the last few days as... "Kevin". But he hasn't crossed the line yet. So just keep watch. THAT was just funny!!!!!!! 156.34.142.110 20:54, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

SEGA?
How many people editing the Iron maiden pages are going to be accused of being SEGA? I edited the Maiden pages over the summer under the account User:Darthrya but I am not this banned user, and some guy with just an IP address as a name is erasing all of my work! Help! Hooks21101 20:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

re: Airports
I've never been through an airport in a country where the first language wasn't English.... I just assume they are all the same. Security at Heathrow is tight. Just do as you're told... keep your passport and boarding passes together and at quick and easy access to show whoever asks for it. If you have no connector flights... just get on at Heathrow... get off at Strauss... presumably in Hall B.(Terminal 1) Follow the other passengers on your flight... look at the overhead signs saying customs...baggage... etc. Again.. have your passport handy to show to whoever asks (keep it in your front pants pocket-not you baggage)... All signs / paths / walkways / escalators / etc lead you to the Arrivals exit area. And then your in the land of the big beer mugs. 156.34.220.50 03:06, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
 * PS wanna see a history of "how to get permanently banned?". This will bring you up to speed on our topic from earlier today...Requests_for_checkuser/Case/SEGA. "turn down the suck" :D . 156.34.209.0 03:56, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

210.54.245.44 et al
210.54.245.44 is back from his ban.

FYI, I filed a checkuser: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Concerned_cynic

The actual checkuser hasn't been done yet, but 83.138.145.18, who continued 210.54.245.44's edit war after 210.54.245.44 and Rabidly Placid were both banned, has been blocked as an open proxy. --Pleasantville 21:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

When you can spare a moment for assistance
I just did 2 speedies and a prod. Since I don't have a watchlist(and my self-controlled allowment of 8 "must watch" watch windows is full)... could you keep an eye that the 3 candidates for the abyss don't get un-speedied or unprod'd without good reason/repair. THe prod could be an AfD... but it's a holiday today in Canada and I am feeling lazy and surly :D. 156.34.213.204 13:10, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I was just going to message and say hold that AfD. They are notable... they just have a really bad article trying to convey that message :D . Through my librarian digital library snooping... it turns out I actually have access to every single release the band ever did. In fact, I could have them all by tomorrow morning if I wanted... and... since I am a bit of a proggy fan... and... since I've never heard this band... I intend to do just that. :D . Who knows, if it turns out they are good... I could make them the library "underground pick of the week" and they could end up being a huge success in my region. It pays to advertise on Wikipedia :D . Thanks for your digging! 156.34.217.117 19:56, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Just adding some closure to this conversation. I got a bunch of Jadis albums today. They push heavily toward getting all the common modern "prog stereotypes" in as often as possible. They are not unlistenable. But they do not offer anything to listen to that I haven't heard... better... from someone else. They lean towards the "lookin' for a hit" side of prog instead of the "lookin' to stretch artistic boundaries" side of prog. They won't be my library "pink of the week"... but I won't say "yuck" if someone asks about them. 156.34.227.140 23:21, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Is your own band in your "library pink of the week"? :-D Scar ian  Talk  23:25, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Here's one for ya!
Keep an eye on Vigier Guitars. It's total advertising. The company itself is a very notable guitar manufacturer with several endorsed user o their roster. They certainly warrant a Wiki page but the article currently is not written like an encyclopedia article... it is an advert. I tagged it but the creator (who edits as both an IP and as "VigierX") rm'd the advert template. To make matters worse the user is also uploading copvio images from the manufacturer's website... claiming "self-made"... and placing these images on Commons. I've alerted Betacommand to the source of the images and their illegal placement on Commons. Could you watch the article and see if it improves any... at least enough to rm the {advert} tag. Thanks! 156.34.142.110 15:01, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * WOW!... after posting Betacommand and then byt the time I came here to message you... the copyvio uploads went POOF!!!. I expect several admins watch Betacommand's talk page... so... for now... all clean... image-wise anyways. I bet you a 3 dollar bill that the user uploads his images again. :D . And I will add another 3 dollar bill that the advert tag gets deleted. Cheers! 156.34.142.110 15:08, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've hacked at it... that Timeline section that I renamed to History needs a tag that says there isn't enough prose... I can't remember the coding for it. But anyway, I've gotten rid of most/all of the poorly written stuff. I haven't looked thoroughly through the timeline bit. I've removed all of the dead images and added a bunch of tags etc. See what you think. Scar ian  Talk  15:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I hacked some more. The timeline has to be converted to a standard paragraph so your prose tag is good. I was hoping the COI IP would start to help out in a positive way... but so far its nothing but peacocks. :D. 156.34.142.110 16:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Darker than dark
My only real comment about the entire Cradle of Filth thingy is that Dark metal is an uncited make-believe fairy-tale "wish I was but I'm not" genre wannabe and it could probably be put up as an AfD. There are close to 2 dozen heavy metal subgenres that A) are genres... B)Are unverifiable and C) only exist in the minds of greasy haired, pimple faced Wikipidiots. :D . 156.34.227.140 23:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Look, I know metal and I know genres. I'm not even saying dark metal is a tru genre, because it isn't, though it may be one day.  It is an umbrella term referring to certain bands that mix gothic metal along with certain black metal elements.  Rotting Christ once did this on a few of their mid era albums (unfortunately), and instead of saying oh that was gothic metal and melodic black metal, someone could say it's dark metal.  It's a bad "genre" anyway. Navnløs 23:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Kurt Cobain
After giving them the final warning, you can report the vandals to WP:AIV. They'll be blocked. I've also semi-protected the page for a week. utcursch | talk 16:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Wanna be a peanut gallery?
Read and enjoy the edit history and the talk page chat happening here. I enlisted the help of Mr Funeral on this one. You, as always, are most welcomed to chime into our peanut gallery and your comments would be great (and likely entertaining too :D ). The edit-adversary in this case is one of those typical "level 4 basket weavers" who suffer from a terminal case of "music impairment". we've come across a lot of those lately haven't we :D It's not a pressing matter. Wiki isn't built in a day. But an extra set of eyes making sure that any Funeral/Libs "2 step forwards" don't get rv'd into "3 step backs" Have a nice day! 156.34.210.198 02:08, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Wonder why is suddenly deciding to blank the current conversations over at Arena rock. What's the warning "subst:" for tampering with talk pages? 156.34.142.110 18:34, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Arena Rock
"Libs [the 156.34 I.P. is incredibly experienced] and he is usually never wrong." Anyway, I almost didnt believe him when he said that he had over 50000 edits, but Ill take your word for it.

"Basically, the article is badly sourced [That's not an impression on your ability - so don't worry]." Actually, to be honest, I do need a better understanding of WP:RS.

"Try not to take the comments on the article's discussion page too personally... Just try and keep a cool head in the future" Sadly, Im a hothead here on Wikipedia. Im a LOTmore laid back in real life, but not on Wiki.

I actually asked Libs to rewrite the article again.

All right, man. Thanks for the advice. Prepare to be Mezmerized! :D 20:00, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I don't have 'over' 50000 edits? But I am close to 50K. Over 20K as a logged in user and close to 30K after I rejected my old account. Be wary of countitis!!! it's a dangerous addiction. I don't think the Arena rock article needs to be reverted anywhere. It needs what content that is currently there scraped down and built back up with reliable sources. The most important thing to clarify is the "not a genre" element. All Wiki articles just take time, research, patience and several non-illegal sedatives and a stiff snort of CC. 156.34.219.206 23:02, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Judas Priest
I count 3 reversions in the last 24 hours, so I've given him a final warning. However, since it is the same edit, it could be construed as edit warring. Is there any consensus on the talk page as far as the reversions between the IP and the registered user about the casing of the genre? I would look, but I figure you have been watching the article. the_undertow talk  23:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Scarian, do you possibly realize the irony of the situation. What is your golden rule?? Hmmm? "Don't fix it if it's not broken." Right, you're breaking your rule.  The JP page had line breaks for the longest time and someone came along recently a few weeks ago and changed it to comma breaks and I reverted them and since then your friend with the IP address has taken a crusade against me.  The page wasn't broken!!  Navnløs 23:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

The article, like many articles, has been corrected based on the example shown at the template instruction page. Scarian, Funeral, Skeeker, myself + many others have rv'd this article at one time or another trying to maintain this correction. The template example shows a comma being used. The example shown is what users are to base their edits on. So many editors rv'ing to the same correction = consensus on Wikipedia. One editor rv'ing four = edit warrior. 156.34.219.206 23:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I've tried to AGF. But this is stalking. Too bad too. I was working hard to carry on a decent conversation with our young editor. 156.34.219.206 00:44, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Need you assistance
First read User_talk:Rlevse. Compiling pamparison evidence between the 2 is easy. I just need a sandbox to do it in. Can you create a userpage sandbox for this? I will be "on the move" throughout the moring so I will only be able to add to it in dribs and drabs. Compiling a WP:SSP for this one should be a piece of cake. I just need an easel to work on my art before I submit it to the gallery. 156.34.219.206 10:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Is it okay if I do it in about 20 minutes time? There is a block on me accessing that link for some reason so I gotta find a different computer. I'll do it then! See you soon! Scar ian  Talk  10:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Your cmt to Undertow. The users edits for the JP page have nothing really to do with how long breaks or commas have been used. Which ever was there before... it was corrected because the example shown at the template page uses commas. This example is there for all users to follow. And it has been quoted numerous times in the edit summary. But 2(3 if you count tic tac) do not think users should follow the example given in a case of WP:IGNORE. It's not POV on the users part. It's a single purpose agenda or a WP:POINT that he's trying to push. Just wanted to pont that out since it seems to get lost in the mix. :D 156.34.219.206 11:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * - There you go! And Re: to the above: Should I remove that and then point out WP:POINT? Scar ian  Talk  11:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I can't add anything to it as that would be "creating an article" which anons can't do. 156.34.142.110 14:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!!! I got the basic skeleton of a report in there. I even found another sock. I am swmped with work so I can't compile any of the "diffs" and evidence the admin Rlevse asked for on his talk page. I will do that later. Look at my basic structure and see if it looks OK... if you have time.

Also, when I get all the info in there... I may get you to do the copy/paste submission... if you don't mind. If I do it it may slip through the cracks because of anti-IP prejudice. If you don't mind. -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I would love the help... thanks! The similarities between the 3 users are easy to document. I have never done an SP before so I just keep looking at other ones posted on the page to see how its done. I posted the Admin Rlevse about the casse that is being compiled... and about the sock I discovered today. I won't be too active for the next few hours..(just the odd rvv... if I can sneak a few in :D ) I appreciate all you've done. Cheers!!!! -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:29, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

The Wolfmother page is a font of similarities. I will try and add some in. -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 18:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Taking a break... who does it look? -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 18:56, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Ja, looks great! Do you reckon it's ready for pasting? Scar ian  Talk  18:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Sure. You have to add you name to "submitter" Plus I don't know if you can do a direct cut paste> I there's instruction there that show how to open a case which creates the proper header(basically our first 2 lines???)... then I think you just paste our main body contents? Not exactly sure... but I bet someone would helpif we just get it started. -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 19:16, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Looks Great. I tagged Scipos talkpage. I don't need my name on it... I am just a number to most people here and they don't care who I am or what I've done. -- 156.34.142.110 (talk) 19:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Just ignore it. I'm going to warn him about his incivility. Scar ian Talk  11:32, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I've had dealings with the editor numberous times before, and frankly, i am quite tired of even reacting to it. ~ | twsx | talkcont | 12:10, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

WP:MOS
Where did he go right? Twsx cannot quote any statement from any guideline on wikipedia that supports comma separated value in genre infoboxes. There is no consensus on this subjet so changing (dozens of) articles is POV pushing and disruptive. Kameejl (Talk) 15:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Strike out what policies? Where? Please clarify your last comment on my talk page. Kameejl (Talk) 13:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I believe there is a misunderstanding.
 * I meant to say: I have reverted most edits where Twsx referred to WP:MOS/WP:MUSTARD in the edit comment. There is no information in these guidelines that back up the changes Twsx has made. I restored the articles as the changes where not backed up by guidelines. Kameejl (Talk) 14:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

You can empty your sandbox
Suspected sock puppets/Scipo = Justice. Thanks for all your help. One d*ckh*ad gone.... thousands more to go. Maybe we should have added Navalarse's name to the list :-D... just kidding. Cheerio! 156.34.219.132 (talk) 23:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Can you re-direct Talk:Technical metal to Talk:Progressive metal just for closure. That was one of Sippy-dippy's POV battlegrounds. 156.34.219.132 (talk) 23:26, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. I'll get right on it. Good work on the sock block! Scar ian  Talk  23:36, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Recreation of Luay Salah al-Din
I will delete it again, and I will also block the editor for a few days. If it gets recreated again after the block expires I will request it is salted. Thanks for the head-up. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:13, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I changed my mind and only warned him - I also commented at the article talkpage. If he recreates the article as was (not per MoS) then I will block him. I will not salt the article just yet, I have to be aware that WP:CSB may mean that Western perceptions of "well known" are not valid. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Wanna help with some good old-fashioned editing?
Look at Category:Hard rock. See the individual bands/artists listed there. Those are wrong. They need to have the category on their articles changed from Category:Hard rock... to Category:Hard rock groups. Simple, old-timey editing... WOW! No trolls, no vandals... just like the Wiki-olden-days :D. I am starting with the A's and working my way down. If you get this post and there's still some to be done... start at Z (or wherever) and meet me somewhere in the middle. Cheers! 156.34.215.218 (talk) 19:18, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * As I figured... I found a prod and AfD along the way. Look at Chris Clouse and see what you think. I prod'd it for now. 156.34.215.218 (talk) 19:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * + I'd say Compos Mentis (band) and any album/song article associated with them are cotton candy. 156.34.215.218 (talk) 19:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Je fini! Ja, Chris Clouse and his related articles should all be wiped. I think he fails WP:MUSIC either way. Anything else need doing? I was just about to drink myself to sleep before getting your message... You saved me from alcoholism :-D Scar ian  Talk  19:52, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!!!!! I found 3 prods and 5 speedy d's... how many did you find? Also Hard boogie and just a junk page that should be speedy'd or AfD'd or something??? It's trash, it's fairytale, it's one in a half million on here that can just go away. :D... We met at H... you're WAY faster than me today! :D 156.34.215.218 (talk) 19:54, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I am heading out for the afternoon. Thanks for your help... cheers! 156.34.215.218 (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, good man! Have a nice weekend. :-) Scar ian  Talk  19:56, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Yup!
?LessHeard vanU (talk) 01:04, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Civility
I've warned the user, but I think you both need a teabreak, as you're both tending towards unfreindliness. I'll keep an eye on you both from now on, and alert a few other administrators. Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 01:13, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Me? Really...? I thought I was being alright. Oh well, fair enough. I'm not one to argue (Although I would like to see where I've gone wrong. But nevermind). Thanks anyway. Scar ian  Talk  01:18, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * By my reading of the nights events I wouldn't call it a warning... more like a friendly reminder not to get to the level where a warning "would" be issued. Our other young user, on the other hand, got a warning and is quite lucky not to be handed an anchor for his bladed typing. Everyone goes to my static talk page and pleads their case though. Which makes me feel good that my opinion... as powerless as it is... means something to someone... which is humbling. My AGF is stretched most thin for our stalker. I do not completely agree with his adversaries edits though which, although strengthened by consensus, are actually quoting the wrong guideline in the accompanying edit summaries. Mustard doesn't quite cover what he is trying to do. He IS, however, covered 100% by the Mariah Carey example shown in the template page. I've spouted on numerous talk pages, and have received confirmation from a few admins who are watching closely that, even without a worded guideline... that example is as good as consensus to use as carbonpaper for every single musician template on Wikipedia. No Ketchup, no relish, no mustard... just Mariah's perky commas set the mark for everyone to follow. My AGF that our user will end his edit war and actually try "editing" is still holding thin. I enjoyed our constructive teamwork cleanup today on all those erroneous categories. Felt good to do some old-fashioned editing. I nominated over a dozen articles for Speedy Delete today.... and prodded more than 2 dozen in the last 2 days (allowing my inner deletionist to run wild). And that felt good too. Except I haven't followed up on any of them to see if my efforts to clean out some of the sewage actually paid off. Have an Earl Grey and let tonights combatants find their way back under their respective bridges. If Navlos' mother won't allow him any tea perhaps she will make him some warm milk :D . I may or may not have a extra large Alabama Slammer at my tableside :D.


 * Want something to help relieve your Wiki stresses? Try this. I have all my library co-workers going nuts trying to break my current record of 104.9 metres. Warning... it's addictive! And Navalose... since I know you're likely eavesdropping... you should try it to. It's a lot more fun than edit warring... trust me! Enjoy! 156.34.215.218 (talk) 02:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Ok, but why do you keep making references about me being a kid or something. It's kinda disturbing. Nor have I failed to notice uou intentionally mispell most user names, not that theres any rule against that. Navnløs (talk) 02:57, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I rarely make any effort to spell anyones names correctly. +... your username has a non-alpha letter in it which I will never take the time to type properly. If you have't been able to tell already... seeing as how I don't have one... I do not hold much stock in usernames and accounts. Wikipedia was built by anonymous IPs... not users with make-believe nicknames. Your 'kid' reference comes from 2 things... A) you sound/act like someone between the ages of 14 and 18... which, to me... is no different then if you were between the ages of 2 and 7 = kid. Plus... have you ever seen the movie Good Fellas.... do you know what it means to 'bust balls'? If you've never seen the movie... you won't get the "schtick".

How far did you get the paper plane???? THAT's the most important discussion tonight :) . When you beat 104 metres... you may ask another question :D 156.34.215.218 (talk) 03:15, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Omg, I'm not the one who sounds like a child here. No, I have not seen Good Fellas, though it is on my list of movies to see, however, I have seen many old gangster/ mafia type films and enjoy them as well. I'm not quite sure where I have written something that sounds like a child, but whatever. I could really care less. As much as you think I sound like a child, I happen to think both you and Scarian try to sound like arrogant "wise" men. I'm not trying to insult either of you, but sometimes sounding the way I mentioned is just as bad as sounding like a child. I consider myself quite intelligent, and I have a wide vocabulary, but I rarely use that vocabulary around most people or try to sound smarter than them because I realize if you're not getting your point across and people aren't understanding you, then its pointless. The point of a conversation is to be able to properly communicate to other people on an understandable level, and while thats all very perspicacious to use your vocabulary and "properness", sometimes you just end up pissing people off. Navnløs (talk) 03:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)


 * With that, I will guess that you haven't been able to get the plane through the window yet? :-D. Put away your thesaurus and go rent the movie... it's worth the $1.99. I never said you weren't intelligent... that you were incapable of following my 'tongue in cheek' prolixity or my sarcastic grandiloquence. And I can bet a $3 bill that yours and Scarian's ages added together don't come close to my ring count... Scarian just seems to be able to keep a grip on his Wiki-humbleness a lot better. And... most of the time... he's editing and not trying to shade WP:POINT. You are too caught up in your agendas and vendettas...you're failing to find any fun here... or at least throw a few constructive edits into the mix. Wikipedia is drowning in incorrect spelling, copyvio images, non-notable article subjects that need to be speedy-deleted. Trust me... speedy delete a few dozen pap pages on here and you'll discover an addiction as strong as trying to get that little paper airplane to fly out the window. I learned a long time ago how to balance editing along with vandal hunting, spam blocking, policy policing, soapbox smashing and POV detouring. For the editing element of Wikipedia it's all about civility, community and consensus. For all of those other elements... it's all about trying to be the biggest pain in the ass to the ones who are doing it... or, in other words... "busting balls". :D Watch the movie. As for the plane... the more loops you can get out of that chimney... the longer your distance. Good luck. 156.34.215.218 (talk) 04:36, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

64 metres!!!!
Awww come on you can do better then that! I can get 60-80 with just about every throw. It's all in the chimney. 3-4 good fast loop-d-loops out of the smoke with lots of speed on the way out and ZING... you're heading for 100. It's a sunny and brisk Sunday morning here. I am just trying to squeeze in 5-6 coffees and a few vandal rv's before we head out to church. Have a good day. 156.34.215.218 (talk) 12:08, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Removed what? :D . If you follow that conversation that doesn't actually take place... you will see what path that user (who we won't speak of) is following as far as being an anti-inclusionist.. nudge nudge. Perhaps you could CfR (crap for removal) some of the targets that Mr. Death Ritual has listed on his list of lists... can I getanymore confusing than that???? :-D. It's "cruft-kill" week. Todays "dog" is only one of several that can be replaced by a "cat". Wink, nudge, code, er, um... hmmmmm??? :-D. This is the most entertaining post I've ever done. 156.34.224.2 (talk) 19:22, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
 * This is one of those userpages that just gets you added to every blacklist going through all of Wikidom. :D 156.34.224.2 (talk) 00:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for the note about Scipo. I looked at his page. He started using sockpuppets. His username was blocked forever but he can create new accounts after a month has gone by. Wikipedia is better off without his kind. I haven't checked out Iron Maiden yet but it's usually the first place I go to see if there's been any vandalism to it. I see someone named Josh Allan keeps vandalizing the Jimi Hendrix page and deleting Jimi's real name. I went to revert it but the page is protected. Someone else reverted the vandalism. I do not care if I have an account because I don't edit here too much. Maybe someday. I may be around a bit since I don't have to travel again for a day or two. Perhaps I will see you around Wikipedia again. 216.21.150.44 (talk) 01:04, 19 November 2007 (UTC)