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RfA - User:AlanH
That's fine. I just mostly wanted the quick-revert tool - any way I can use that w/o being an admin?

I will check out the pages you linked me to and will be sure to contact you about WP:COACH if I want to try to be an admin again. Thanks for the generous offer & kind advice. --AlanH (talk) 15:40, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

Your NPWatcher application
Dear Scarian,

Thank you for applying for NPWatcher! Unfortunately, your application has been declined because you've made only a handful of CSD in December, and not many even earlier, and the denied request are, unfortunately, too many compared to the sum of your nominations. As such, I am uncomfortable in favourably processing your application. We will surely welcome an application in the future.

 Snowolf How can I help? 21:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, and many thanks for reminding me of the backlog, I definitively forgot about it :) Good luck,  Snowolf How can I help? 21:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Soxπed Ninety Three | t cd b 17:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC) John Carter (talk) 17:08, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Need a project?
Follow my lead actually Antandrus's but... y'know :D 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:04, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Just that one article. By my edit summary. An international subject should never have a national cat. A "nationalist" is trying to claim that article for his own country. It is clearly an international subject and should never be linked to any one particular country. Their are probably more pages like this one. This is the only one I am watchlisting. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 19:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

User name
Yeah, you can remove it. I foudnm the reference to chav interesting. I did not know they had their own lingo. Bearian (talk) 13:37, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalize
I am not vandalizing. You don't even know what trivia or verifiable means, why do you continue vandalizing my edits??? --82.185.106.178 (talk) 16:27, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

I already explained my edits. I can't understand why the section which I added is thought to be trivia, while the information which I removed is not. --82.185.106.178 (talk) 07:44, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Your opinion
This edit (read the edit summary carefully) is Libs pushing the limits of WP:BOLD and exposing Libsy's "plus grande nads" to all Wiki and seeing just how long it takes a logo crufter to rv the edit. I believe, based on both the policy and the long overdue discussion on it... that the edit is a valid one. Wikipedia, by it's own mandate, is to be a free encyclopedia promoting free-use content when/wherever possible. You just cannot get any more free-use than plain text. Most bands copyright their logos and therefore using them requires well worded fair-use rationale. And if free-use always wins out over fair-use... I think my edit summary is noble, just and true. Time will tell. Do you agree? Do you disagree? Do you have a third opinion. I would be most interested in finding out. And I invite you to go ahead and invite anyone you wish into the conversation. Perhaps the discussion can be moved to my static IP page where it can be an informal chat... rather than a discussion... leading to consensus... leading to guidelines... leading to policies... and all that other Wiki-crap :D. Does free-use always win? I think Wikipedia was built on the foundation of "free-use". What are your thoughts? 156.34.225.75 (talk) 01:41, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * The discussion continues on both the template page and the WP:MUSIC page. It's really hitting the nail on the head. Wikipedia is for everyone... and free-use always wins out over fair-use. I could have picked any article as a test(I actually did the same test on the Def Leppard article a few weeks ago and it was reverted by a crufter) The Iron Maiden logo does in fact have a very good chance at "fair-use" placement right in the text of the article. Unlike other bands that have their logos corporate designed by record labels' PR departments... Iron Maiden's logo was hand drawn/han designed by Steve Harris very early in the bands career. He had the logo before he had a stable lineup of the band itself. That is an interesting bit of the bands history and the logo could be added in right along with it.... TaDa.... fair-use. Navlos and his school chum are the ones who up'd all the logos and they're the one's who are going to 'racing stripe their diapers' when they see Wikipedia start to eliminate all their hard work. I feel so bad about that :D . 156.34.213.216 (talk) 11:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Unfair deletion
Hi there, I see you keep posting a COI on the Rusty Eye article (and now the user Chubbles is threatening to delete it). The page looks fine to me, but if you wish to contribute to provide a "Neutral Point of View", you are more than welcome to do so. For more reliable information, you can contact the PR guy link DMPR or just search thoroughly on the web. There is plenty of good sources and articles around (Metal Edge, Music Connection, LA Times, Metal-Archives, UVTV, Moshking, Ytsejam, Scratch Magazine, Highwire Daze, Rock City News, Voltcase Magazine, All Music Guide, BlabberMouth.Net, Metalraw, Canedo Rock, etc.). If this continues to escalate, the page will be unfairly deleted. Thanks for your time and understanding. Rustyeye (talk) 01:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe I shouldn't have reverted that?
Did I just do something I shouldn't have? Please let me know. If I did, I apologize in advance. J.d ela noy gabs adds 23:33, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Always know that any edits from 156.34.X are perfect and never need reverting :D .. Right Pat? 156.34.213.216 (talk) 23:35, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You're damn right, my friend :-D - (Damn EC on WP:ANI - scoot over there and take a look if you haven't already) Scarian Call me Pat  23:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

RE:Okie dokie
Even though the user is continuing to be disruptive (personal attacks) I am still glad you apologized for the warning. That user just came off block too, for "attempting to harass other users". - Rjd0060 (talk) 23:49, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't know about that guy. - Rjd0060 (talk) 04:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Apology
Scarian, i would like to apologize for appearing as though i was trying to harass you, i'm just now getting the hang of how to communicate/ reply to other users, with that said and hopefully cleared up, i still can't say i found it right to revert my edit on the AC/DC page because it appears you either never heard of them at all, or know little about them, since the song i noted they performed at that particular concert, Big Balls was an actual song, and one of their most known, which is why i jump to the assumption. Even though you unfairly reverted my noting of what song they were playing when the picture was taken, i'm not going to attempt to edit anymore, nor will i make anymore trouble, or at least knowingly. If i do infact do something do whatever you feel is appropriate. In the meantime, could you or an equally responcible and courteous admin or whatever you are please message me some detailed directions on how to communicate better? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Axeman 10 (talk • contribs) 05:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

WP:STALKING
Wikistalking is about the disruption of articles not user space but disrupting Wikipedia by following editors and disrupting the mainspace. I think you meant WP:TROLL - the two things are very different. Trolls can be dealt with, Stalkers are not nice and effect the whole community. Bpeps (talk) 12:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Nice comment. :) Rudget . 14:13, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your input, it was much appreciated. I felt I had no other place to take this. Hopefully this should stop here, but I'll monitor the situation for the next few weeks. Thanks again, and kindest regards, -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:50, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

See this guy
This guy here... undo every edit he does. And if he switches to his 77.99 IP range... you can undo those too. Typical POV genre vandal... Ignores WP:ALBUM formatting just to soapbox his POV in. A troll bascially. 156.34.213.216 (talk) 20:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks!!!!. What's you better half username... I will blacklist and send vandalism warnings :D. 156.34.213.216 (talk) 21:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Hey... thanks again.

Keep an eye on Image:Black Sabbath Logo.png. I tagged it for speedy and added the valid reason in my speedy tag. If someone undoes it... speedy it again. It's not an official band logo in any way shape or form. 156.34.213.216 (talk) 00:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)


 * PS.. my wife thinks that Wikipedia is retarded and that I could find WAY better hobbies. She's absolutely right too :D. 156.34.213.216 (talk) 00:15, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Also, i'd like to add..
I'm trying to be nice here, but now it seems you're looking down on me, which i don't like, i was just asking you what the best ways are to reply to messages, but i guess this is it, and no, i didn't take the screenshot, but you didn't know for a fact i didn't, and or was at the concert, just as i didn't know you knew nothing about AC/DC, i happen to have a DVD of the concert though, and the jumping angle and position of the two guys looks alot like the one on it, but why make a point to me when i already told you i wouldn't mess with it anymore. Please be a little more understanding, because i actually thought i was being tormented, only to find out that you thought the same, and as far as the "stfu" thing goes, i wrote it in my own my talk thing, but i don't plan on using it anymore so i really don't care how immature it was, if you have anymore comments or questions go ahead, but please give me a little more slack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Axeman 10 (talk • contribs) 23:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

It's almost 4 am...
So I'm going to bed... please e-mail me if it's an important message... sleepy... Good night, y'all. If you read this Libs, keep Wiki-safe, listen to "Machine Gun" by Jimi Hendrix if you get the chance. Scarian Call me Pat 03:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I always do. And right now I am listening to Soft Machine :D . 156.34.208.112 (talk) 04:20, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * One for your radar... User:Hawks10=Nav the Impailer? Hmmmm. 156.34.208.112 (talk) 13:08, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Brings out his Elmer Fudd rifle and starts stalking...
 * I actually didn;t think of it myself. I eavesdropped in on User:Circucisionflix's "comment" page where he made the observation himself. Circyflircysix made the error of gettin' into Naval's "hood"... but has since been working hard to be a better editor and follow the rules and guidelines and consensuses n such. He's a nice boy. He needs a cookie :D . Speaking of which poor ol Tswx(?) has risen above all the abuse he has taken from Kameejl and Bad Nav and all the other editors and continues to fight his good fight. He spurns all their abusive uncivil attacks and continually shows us all the true meaning of WP:BOLD. I was going to give him a barnstar just to give him some perk to keep going. :D . His enemy editors would just that wouldn't they :D . 156.34.208.112 (talk) 13:26, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * link 156.34.208.112 (talk) 13:35, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
 * His main problem is not understanding the format set out by WP:ALBUM... it's different from the Artist infobox template. The problem I had was I couldn't just revert him I had to do format corrections on the album pages as well. Time consuming. Time for church.. C Ya 156.34.208.112 (talk) 15:53, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

He wasn't just reverted by us. Some of his other edits were reverted by other editors. So it would appear as though he is just like "Lumpx" and edits based on POV instead of refs. I had a terrible time keeping up with Lumpx last night. I tagged his IP as a sock. And I asked KOS to keep track. If he continues to POV his way around I will re-alert KOS and he will deal with it (or won't deal with it no matter whichever the case he feels necessary... he "admins" with teeth rather than a feather duster so he is one of the better admins I've seen). He may have advice for Hawk? 156.34.208.112 (talk) 17:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Should...
Should Daylight Dies die a Wiki-death? 156.34.208.112 (talk) 01:43, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It scrapes by with it's label(s) unfortunately. I'm applying for WP:HUGGLE, then I'm having a smoke and then I'm going to bed. Have a nice day, buddy. Scarian Call me Pat  01:48, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I think Huggle sucks. I am colourblind... completely... and any vandalism tool with that many pretty balloons discriminates against users with my afflication. Not that I could use it anyways since all Wiki anti-vandal tools are prejudiced against anons. Hope you don't get lung cancer from your lung cancer causing cigarette. :D . 156.34.208.112 (talk) 01:53, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, how about Bride Adorned then? 156.34.208.112 (talk) 01:39, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * That's an AfD for sure. Want me to put it up? Scarian Call me Pat  08:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sure. + this one Cryonic Temple. 156.34.215.223 (talk) 09:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Does Manticora and all their albums need to go. Lots of albums but no notable labels. 156.34.215.223 (talk) 11:19, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Maticora were attached to Scarlet records which are a notable label 'cause they have a few notable power metal bands with them. It's a tough call though... does being formerly attached to a notable label still make you notable? It would be a dodgey AfD, AMG has a couple of reviews of Manticora... and musique inclusionists love AMG... Scarian Call me Pat  11:29, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Never checked AMG. Good call. 156.34.221.194 (talk) 11:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Debate over Article for Deletion: Clemson University football recruiting scandal
Clemson University football recruiting scandal has been nominated for deletion per WP:AFD. Please participate in the debate here: Articles for deletion/Clemson University football recruiting scandal, if possible. Thanks. Thör hammer 09:06, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Mistake on Adam Paul
I think we tried to revert at the same time and I beat you to it....I had to go back a few revisions to find a good one. And now that I'm looking again...I still think I have to go back more. -- R Parlate Contribs@ 17:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Admin coaching
Hi. I decided to withdraw my RFA because most voters said that I needed more experience (and they're probably right; 1,500 edits isn't too many) and I just wanted to say that I'm happy to accept your offer to coach me. Could you start by please explaining to me the concept of "admin recall"? I don't totally understand it. Thank you very much.--Urban Rose  19:35, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Experience
Thanks for the explanation of recall. As for experience, basically I'm looking for ways to become a more well-rounded editor. A few questions I have are: 1. How many edits should I have accumulated before trying another RFA? 2. How many of those edits should be mainspace? (I'm assuming that vandalism reversion doesn't qualify as mainspace edits.) 3. What are some admin tasks I can involve myself in without actually having the tools? 4. What are some easy mainspace activities to get involved in? Thanks again.--Urban Rose  19:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

A stalker
This knob is stalking my logo cleaning. I reported him to John. I wish KOS hadn't quit. Wiki needs admins with balls. 156.34.215.223 (talk) 11:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Now User:Managerpants is stalking??? Reported him to John too. What's with Wiki today. 156.34.221.194 (talk) 11:44, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

You are not an admin
I presume? Óðinn (talk) 11:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Request denied Óðinn (talk) 11:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry - what? Scarian Call me Pat  11:57, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You request to stop "stalking". Óðinn (talk) 11:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

He's already reported to an Admin. But he can always be reported to 2 :D. 156.34.221.194 (talk) 11:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Flags, etc.
I'm sorry, but flags are not generally considered inappropriate on band pages. We had a huge debate over this over on MOSFLAG, and there was no consensus either way. Yes, they are inappropriate in a person's infobox, but bands are a different story. I assume good faith as a rule, but that "IP address user" is not contributing to Wikipedia, he/she is merely removing trifling things he/she doesn't like without discussion on talk pages, and it's just going to cause a huge problem. --Managerpants (talk) 12:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * He doesn't realise yet that I am never wrong :D. He's been reported to an admin. They will shorten him up. 156.34.221.194 (talk) 12:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Struggling
Nav the Viking Goddess is having struggles all over Wiki this morning :D. Some people have an extremely hard time with WP:CON when it conflicts with their personal POV. They are the worst sort of editors. I'll take a simple vandal anytime over a soapboxer, POV pusher, a crufter, an agenda-ist or...ungh... worst of them all... inclusionists. Do you wanna know why 90% of Wiki articles suck? It's because 90% of its editors do too. that's my mornings worth of philosophical wit shot to Hell in one edit... but it's goin' on my talk page :D Welcome to the 10% club my friend! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 13:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * PS Did he forget if he was Odin, Nav or Sockysockysock?? :D . Another one for your blacklist. Do you know that range? A school? A certain someones school? Is there a reasonable concern that a certain single someone may try to tip the consensus by adding pro-logo support under multiple accounts? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 15:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * PPS probably not "you know who" ... there's a new protozoa in the "schizophrenic Wikipedian" gene pool I wonder if he talks to himself when he isn't editing :D. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 15:15, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Nevermind... it was Lemons-etc talking to himself. Caught him re-adding his own IP edits amongst his edit history. Hard to keep track of the crufters. Pepe-les-pew may still be a sock... but the IP and Lemons are one in the same... garONtea :D. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 15:25, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * My favourite edit of the day. It couldn't have been said better... even if it were by me :D. Nearly passed a big bite o' golden delicious apple out me nose when I read that :D. 156.34.142.110 (talk) 18:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * You can run, but you can never hide your ongoing infidelities 156.34.142.110 (talk) 21:02, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
No problem, hopefully the guy only created the 3 socks I've gotten so far. :P Keilana|Parlez ici 16:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Yup...bleah. POV-pushing socks are the worst. Keilana|Parlez ici 16:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

re:apology
Thanks for your kind words, but no apology is necessary. You did what you thought was right at the time, and that's all we can do. I do plan on running again, but not until the full six months has passed. I've still got three more to go :) Van Tucky 20:51, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Ha ha ha ha ha!!!
Did I just catch you reverting a perfect edit by perfect little ol' me???. Now THAT's funny! :D. You didn't issue a warning. Some GeorgeherbertNobody cluttered up my talk page because he can't count to 3??? If you had've V_tool warned me I would never let you live it down :D. 156.34.238.173 (talk) 22:59, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I still want to know why this Georgeherbertwassislump can't count to 3. I was a good boy all day and just watched the discussion page and simply made sure that whatever was "in place" this morning... stayed in place. The sockpuppeteer got all fired up and I gave him 1 rv from my static page... 1!... and someone with trouble counting to 3 (and anti-anon bias I will guess) littered my page with an obscenity. :D . It only stokes the fires of the trolls when stuff like that happens. Wiki has too many trolls. I read a comment from someone earlier... somewhere... if I thought that Wikipedia reader were imbeciles? I don't think they are. But I have been stalked nby many an editor who falls into that category thats for sure :D . 156.34.238.173 (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

why?
why did you delete my contribution? you said it was vandalism but i really don't see what you're talking about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mysuitisblacknot (talk • contribs) 23:45, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * "home of the rolling backpack" - I don't really understand how anyone could assume that not to be vandalism. If you can find a source to prove it's true then feel free to add it back in :-) Scarian Call me Pat  23:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Mysuitisblacknot's contributions were not deleted, they were reverted this is definitely vandalism, this and this are attempts at humour?--Alf melmac  23:48, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Shh Alf... I was doing what they call... "assuming good faith"... - Or I could've been joking around... Or I could've doubted my judgement which was why I asked him to source it... or I could just suck today... Thanks for pointing them out though :-D Scarian Call me Pat  23:52, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

IRC
Hey there, I saw you dropped me a line on IRC the other day. Did you get help with whatever you needed? GlassCobra 01:09, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Quick note
We never got a chance to sort this out yesterday, but I'm over it. I know you and Libs are friends, and I also know that I want no part of edit warring. I just got very upset when I saw scores of what I believe to be meaningless edits from that IP range, and then even more upset when he spoke condescendingly to me with that "I am never wrong" attitude. The problem with typing is that you can't always tell when someone's joking, being sarcastic, or really has a giant ego. :-) Anyway, happy editing! --Managerpants (talk) 11:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I am always joking, am always sarcastic, am in possession of an enormous ego and am never wrong :D .  "turn up the good, turn down the suck!!"  156.34.210.147 (talk) 12:33, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Haha, well that makes it easier!


 * Oh, wait a minute...
 * --Managerpants (talk) 12:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Deleted References
Seeing that user 156.34.xxx.xxx who is never wrong http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:156.34.142.110, has so many talk pages because he's anonymous, I'm posting on this page. User 156.34.xxx.xxx deleted my Yamano Gakki reference links that are essential to my history section on the Orville by Gibson page, These links show that Yamano Gakki obtained the Gibson dealership in 1987 which I make reference to in the History section. User 156.34.xxx.xxx then puts a unverified claims tag on the page in between deleting some of my references. No wonder I might have unverified claims.

Guitarspecs (talk) 13:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I deleted External Links, that were listed as "sources" some of which were A)Chat Forums and B)in Japanese. I was just following WP:EL on that one. The articles in question also list "catalogues" as sources. I cannot verify these catalogues as we don't keep those types of publications in our digital system ( unless you want to see a Sear & Roebuck Catalogue from 1922 :D ) I tagged one as dubious since... if you read the articles... they read in places very much like "catalogues"... very much like Cut 'n' paste" catalogues... if you catch my meaning. I actually enjoy reading the articles as far as the general content goes. I am simply tagging them ion the hopes that one of Wiki's copyedit patrols pick them off in a random search and "work their magic". Please don't use your top secret super powers to block me for deleting Japanese blog links from English Wikipedia. PLEASE! don't block me :D how's that for "haven't had my morning coffee and got a ripping migraine to boot" sarcasm :D 156.34.142.110 (talk) 14:06, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Well you deleted Yamano Gakki History links that show the year in which Yamano Gakki became the Gibson agent in Japan. The catalogue prices are not just copy and paste and they are there because I am showing that various Orville guitar models were equivalent in original selling price which many second hand owners do not realize and the catalogue prices and models tie in with the Yamano Gakki/Gibson Orville history. The Orville by Gibson page has also Japanese web users using English to Japanese translators so has been written with this in mind.

Guitarspecs (talk) 14:44, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Well first off you gotta refer to the places where you got that information, Guitarspecs. Second, blogs are not generally considered a reliable source. Third, it did look like copyvio. Even if it's not officially copyrighted with the little (c) thing, if you write an original piece of prose/whatever it's technically automatically copyrighted. See copyright. Have a nice day! Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  15:14, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
You're joking, right? That is not vandalism. I am not up to no good. --208.138.31.76 (talk) 15:50, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
 * In case you're wondering I reverted my own edit and removed the warning :-) - It was an error that I noticed straight away and removed. I do apologise, friend :-) Scarian <sup style="color:red;">Call me Pat  15:53, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

I think not...
I most certainly did not vandalize! I was making a valid point, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.207.153 (talk) 16:02, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

the thing to conner...
is true.

This is a school computer, so by banning one person, you are blocking everyone on this server's contributions.

The information about Conner is true, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.207.153 (talk) 16:18, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for reverting my talk today and yesterday-- Antonio Lopez (talk) 00:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Reference Desk
Thanks for the ideas at the reference desk as to my computer's choppiness. It only happened for a short while in the game, so it may have been a bug or some other anomaly. Useight (talk) 01:07, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Note
Your RfMOP will succeed because of your kindness to anons.( that and the fact that you've earned it 10 times over I hereby declare that any editor who opposes that nom is a completely useless tw*t who should be blocked from editing... and de-sysop'd if they're an admin. Now.... we wait.... see which an*l minority does oppose... and then create a fun little sandbox f*ckn*ts list that we can poke fun at... stalk and revert all their edits... rip the heads off their dolls... throw sand in their faces... call them na.... ohhh nevermind :D 156.34.210.147 (talk) 02:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
 * On further reflection though... have you contributed substantially to an FA? That's always one of the an*l gangs "need-to's". You and Funeral both are prime MOP candidates. I'll repeat what I said before when Funerals name was MOP dropped. Get lots of AfD, RfA, helpdesk, copyedits, and..... get an FA under your belt. Pick an article on a subject your familiar with... like Smartass just kidding.... you know what I mean :D and rs the sh*t out of it. An FA will put you over the top. 156.34.210.147 (talk) 02:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Note to self

 * See also:  :P <font color="#7d7d7d">Master of Puppets  <font color="#7d7d7d">Call me MoP! ☺  06:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)