User talk:Scarpy/Archive 5

Shawn Woolley
I didn't make a change because I have nothing to add, I've done no research on this. But I'll go ahead and delete the PoV stuff --Carbonrodney (talk) 05:23, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Help
You told me to ask you if I needed help. I don't know if there is a way to PM someone other than on their talk page, so this is how I've contacted you. I cannot seem to be able to look at diff pages, they keep popping up as PHP file downloads. I don't work on a server. Is there anyway to look at these pages on a regular web browser? Thanks.Advocate (talk) 21:35, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, on both IE and Firefox.Advocate (talk) 08:23, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

I found it. The default preference under Editing is to use an external editor for Diff pages. Thanks for answering, however.Advocate (talk) 08:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

SOS Article
Hey, could you help me create an article for SOS (Secular Organizations for Sobriety or Save Our Selves)? http://www.sossobriety.org/fastindex.htm, http://www.secularsobriety.org/ , http://www.cfiwest.org/sos/index.htm Thanks. Jrun (talk) 16:50, 27 August 2008 (UTC)


 * One has been created for it twice now: and been deleted.  We will need to write it using reliable sources or it will probably suffer the same fate.


 * I have some articles on the topic, I will look for some more this evening. -- Scarpy (talk) 20:49, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

Wikilawyering
Do you really think that it is that? The request for comment page asks for neutrality, which is what I am trying to achieve? I would hav ejust responded to his post otherwise. I assure you, I was acting in good faith.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.206.215 (talk • contribs) 19:24, November 29, 2007 (UTC)

Nicotine Anonymous
To Craig Talbert Can we come to some understanding about what gets posted on Wiki regarding Nicotine Anonymous? I am the Literature Coordinator for Nicotine Anonymous World Services and was asked by the Chairperson to post some information about our fellowship. I am glad you had previously posted something, but your information regarding the number of meetings is outdated from 1999. As the chair of NicA has approved the text I posted we would appreciate it if it was not removed. If you have some other issue regarding this matter please let us know so that we can resolve this. Thank you- Checko M NAWS Literature Coordinator -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Checko (talk • contribs) 02:42, December 12, 2007 (UTC)

Nicotine Anonymous
To Craig Talbert Can we come to some understanding about what gets posted on Wiki regarding Nicotine Anonymous? I am the Literature Coordinator for Nicotine Anonymous World Services and was asked by the Chairperson to post some information about our fellowship. I am glad you had previously posted something, but your information regarding the number of meetings is outdated from 1999. As the chair of NicA has approved the text I posted we would appreciate it if it was not removed. If you have some other issue regarding this matter please let us know so that we can resolve this. Thank you- Checko M NAWS Literature Coordinator email: literaturecoordinator@nicotine-anonymous.org -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Checko (talk • contribs) 02:45, December 12, 2007 (UTC)

Hey !?!
WTH is that stop removing my modifications ! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpgoyau (talk • contribs) 00:54, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

N/A
Thanks for the correction - you spotted the changed page fast! PamD (talk) 16:44, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Bob Enyart
I am the person who removed every piece of information from the article. The templates were already there; they were simply more obvious with the lack of words masquereading as content. I disagree with you (Scarpy) that there is ample literature to base on article on. But I could be wrong, and nothing is stopping you from writing it. Mksmothers (talk) 02:26, 19 September 2008 (UTC)


 * You are wrong, I suspect you're also a sockpuppet. If you would like to discuss the AfD you should do it there, rather than taking cheap shots as me on my talk page. -- Scarpy (talk) 03:14, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Online Gamers Anonymous
I have not edited many articles. Not sure what you mean, when you said they need to be neutral?? I was expanding information about our organization. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizwool (talk • contribs) 21:54, September 26, 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia strongly discourages people in organizations, especially founders, from editing articles about their organization as it presents a conflict of interest. If you are going to update the article, the information you add will need to be supported by reliable sources -- this is true of all information on wikipedia, but is especially important in this case to avoid COI issues. -- Scarpy (talk) 00:50, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

Talkback
- Dan Dank55 (push to talk) 19:22, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi Scarpy - I want to continue to work with you on Addidction Recovery Groups with you as you suggested back in Feb. '09. I want to thank you for guiding that page such that I see that the basic division between 12-step and non-12-step was finally included - giving me a sense of accomplishment I rarely feel on Wikipedia.

I fear I'll never read all the instruction (is there somewhere to download a hard copy or a Wikipedia for Dummies that I can pick up?) so that I know how to do this. (e.g. I had to copy and paste the | sign because I don't know how to find it on my keyboard.)

So here's an idea that might be useful, but I have no idea how to work it into the Wiki structure of an article. Perhaps just dividing the groups on the Addiction Recovery Groups page into 12-step and non-12-step doesn't quite sort things in the most useful way. The key idea with 12-step recovery seems to be getting straight and sober (recovering) via a "spiritual awakening" thought the active ingredient for many folks is the mutual support and they ignore the religious and spiritual aspects.

A key divider within the non-12-step groups that gets lost in the current scheme is that some of those groups are clearly "secular" (or for WFS the "spiritual" element is not central or so clearly tied to a required "spiritual awakening" - while other non-12-step groups while NOT 12-step are not secular either (scientology? pagan recovery?) just non-traditional or not Christian (most folks admit that AA 12-step is Jesus oriented even if they leave the name out - read Bill Wilson's introduction to AA (the Big Book). SO what can be done?

My other question (big segue) is how do I get listed as a person interested in writing for the film section besides putting: on my talk page (which I have not yet attempted? I wanted to add to the Cannibalism in Cinema (called by wiki: Cannibal (ism?) films) and put forward as only a horror genre, whereas I have a list of comedies, dramas, histories, etc. that all involve cannibalism and are not Italian horror films. How do I get it in there?Henrysteinberger (talk) 18:44, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: DOI Tips
Hi Scarpy! Thanks for the note. When I'm fixing DOI's, I usually first check to make sure there's nothing obviously wrong with it that's easily fixable. Examples include punctuation (periods, commas) at the end of the number, or a missing "1" at the front (that one's fairly common, I think because people copy and paste too quick). Then, I use this service to see if they have a record of the DOI. I usually use the second form on the page, to search simply by article title. If they don't have a record of it, I usually just move on to the next article in line, but quite often they do. There are also quite a few DOI's that are erroneously marked as broken. That's because the link takes you to a page where you have to log in to see more than the title/author of the article. This doesn't mean the DOI is broken, it just means that you don't have the proper log-in, so the tags can just be removed in this case.

Sometimes I'm not able to find a DOI for the reference, even going through the steps above. Then, I usually just leave it and go on to the next broken link. I'm not totally sure how the whole DOI system works, and it's quite possible that not all journal articles are assigned DOIs. For a lot of articles, the PMED number works just as well, and you don't need to have both if the DOI is missing or broken. For a full list of article's with tagged broken DOI's, you can go to Category:Pages with DOIs broken. I hope this information helps, please let me know if you have more questions. Dana boomer (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

could you please help out?
I am currently a graduate student with the University of Colorado Boulder, working on a semester project regarding Wikipedia. I was hoping you would be able to privately answer a few questions in reference to your personal experience with Wikipedia in order for me to get your view on the website. The questions are on my user page, and if you could answer in them in word and e-mail them to the address shown that would be really helpful. Your anonymity is assured, and any personal information you give will never be used outside of this questionnaire. Thank you for your time.Curesearcher (talk) 03:19, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

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video game addiction
Might you expand on your edit summary. This huge, wide-ranging, very PoV addition is certainly cited, but it is from the point of view that there is a condition called "video game addiction"... and that is heavily disputed, as the articles many sources on both sides indicate.sinneed (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Thank you. I can't agree, at all, but at least I understand why you reverted a wp:BRD. sinneed (talk) 04:28, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Talkback
Valley2 city ‽ 23:45, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Many thanks
Scarpy: I'm not sure how to reply, even after having checked the help page. This Wiki coding is alien, so I hope you get this. Delighted you found me. What synesthesia publications did you find in 2006? If you haven't already gotten it, please do read Wednesday is Indigo Blue: Discovering the Brain of Synesthesia. (Yes! I discovered the infobox:book template--I think I'm getting the hang of Wikipedia.) It covers everything and brings research up to date.

I finally got my own entry done. It was on my to-do list for 2 years, and colleagues (especially the synesthesia page contributors) were nagging me to do it.

Which brings me to ask for your advice/help. I got this message on my talk page this morning. My immediate answer to her is, "Well, no, no one has done an entry for me, so I did it myself, just as David Eagleman and other scientific contributors to the synesthesia article did." What doyou advise? Is there something I should clean up? I did just add myself to the wikipedians with articles page. Should I include ? If so WHERE do I put the tag and what is the sort field? The user's message is:

"You should wait for others to write an article about subjects in which you are personally involved, as you did at Richard Cytowic. This applies to articles about you, your achievements, your band, your business, your publications, your website, your relatives, and any other possible conflict of interest.

Creating an article about yourself is strongly discouraged. If you create such an article, it might be listed on articles for deletion. Deletion is not certain, but many feel strongly that you should not start articles about yourself. This is because independent creation encourages independent validation of both significance and verifiability. All edits to articles must conform to Wikipedia:No original research, Wikipedia:Neutral point of view, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.

If you are not "notable" under Wikipedia guidelines, creating an article about yourself may violate the policy that Wikipedia is not a personal webspace provider and would thus qualify for speedy deletion. If your achievements, etc., are verifiable and genuinely notable, and thus suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later. (See Wikipedia:Wikipedians with articles.) Thank you. Dori ❦ (Talk ❖ Contribs ❖ Review) ❦ 02:18, 10 May 2009 (UTC)"

Many thanks. Richard E. Cytowic (talk) 11:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)


 * regarding File:Cover-Indigo.png, I got an orphan notice. Boned up on image tags and completed non-free book cover and Non-free image rationale. Only the second one shows up. I'm leaving it alone. Richard E. Cytowic (talk) 16:30, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Joanne Conte
I have nominated Joanne Conte, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Joanne Conte. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message.  MBisanz  talk 20:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)

Fountain Posters
Hello. left the following message, presumably aimed at yourself, on their own talk page with a 'helpme' (this edit) - hence I've copied it here and explained about helpme/talk pages on their talk. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

Hi Scarpy, can you help? Can you take a look at how my article for Alara Wholefoods Ltd? I wrote it on my user page ages ago and almost forgot about it!

—Preceding unsigned comment added by Fountain Posters (talk • contribs) 17:32, 24 August 2009

Your reversion in several articles
Hello, Craig. You, without discussion, reverted out a link to a documentary public radio program link I had put in to some articles:
 * 01:15, 29 August 2009 (hist) (diff) History of Alcoholics Anonymous ‎ (WP:EL) (top)
 * 01:14, 29 August 2009 (hist) (diff) Twelve-step program ‎ (Undid revision 310464051 by Wikiklrsc (talk) - WP:EL) (top)
 * 01:14, 29 August 2009 (hist) (diff) Addiction recovery groups ‎ (Undid revision 310464410 by Wikiklrsc (talk) - WP:EL) (top)

This was the documentary I had inserted:


 * "The Spirituality of Addiction and Recovery", Speaking of Faith, Public Radio program, May 15, 2008, American Public Media

You also reverted out a footnote to an important 1961 letter from Dr. Carl Jung to Bill Wilson about the help he gave Rowland Hazard III.


 * 01:15, 29 August 2009 (hist) (diff) History of Alcoholics Anonymous ‎ (WP:EL) (top)

I think these items, especially the footnote to Jung's letter's actual text, are relevant to the articles. Actually, I have re-inserted the footnote back in, slightly modified.


 * Jung, C.G., Retrospective 1961 letter from Dr. C.G. Jung to Bill Wilson about Rowland Hazard III

Please advise. Thanks. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2009 (UTC)


 * If we were to link to every documentary about AA (there are thousands) in every article related to AA, the articles would be nothing more than a link farm. There is nothing differentiating the documentary you link to from others. If you disagree, put in a WP:3O. This is cut and dry and I'm not interested in a protracted discussion on it. -- Scarpy (talk) 23:29, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Hello, Craig. This is where a discerning intellect comes into play. Anyway, I'm not at all interested in a protracted discussion on this matter since there's so much other work to do. Best wishes and continued success in your undergraduate studies in CS at UC Boulder. -- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 16:00, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you. -- Scarpy (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Surely. Bests and take care. --- (Bob) Wikiklrsc (talk) 19:31, 1 September 2009 (UTC)