User talk:Sccros

Your submission at Articles for creation: AFIRE (August 23)
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SamHolt6 (talk) 20:50, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Editing with a possible conflict of interest
Hello, Sccros. We welcome your contributions, but if you have an external relationship with the people, places or things you have written about on Wikipedia, you may have a conflict of interest (COI). Editors with a COI may be unduly influenced by their connection to the topic. See the COI guideline and FAQ for organizations for more information. We ask that you:


 * avoid editing or creating articles about yourself, your family, friends, company, organization or competitors;
 * propose changes on the talk pages of affected articles (you can use the request edit template);
 * disclose your COI when discussing affected articles (see WP:DISCLOSE);
 * avoid linking to your organization's website in other articles (see WP:Spam);
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In addition, you must disclose your employer, client, and affiliation with respect to any contribution which forms all or part of work for which you receive, or expect to receive, compensation (see WP:PAID).

Also, editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted. Thank you.--SamHolt6 (talk) 20:51, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello, I'm Deb. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions have been undone because they appeared to be promotional. Advertising and using Wikipedia as a "soapbox" are against Wikipedia policy and not permitted; Wikipedia articles should be written objectively, using independent sources, and from a neutral perspective. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you.Deb (talk) 19:21, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Your request for undeletion
I've just looked at your comments on Draft talk:AFIRE and it comes across to me like a rant, saying how unfair and rude everyone else is being. But the fact is that you haven't abided by the Wikipedia guidelines. You haven't even signed your posts on my talk page or on the Draft talk page, which is pretty basic. You say that you didn't intend to promote but to "inform of real estate investments overseas"; this is pretty much the definition of advertising. So have another look at the guidelines, try and understand where you went wrong and what you need to do to avoid having your article deleted. Go to Teahouse and get some advice from others if you don't believe me.

If you really want a successful review of the draft content, I recommend you start again from scratch, taking note of the following:
 * External links should not be included in the article text - see External links, first sentence.
 * "Responsible for several member meetings, topic-focused summits, and exclusive gatherings every year" sounds like an extract from a holiday brochure.
 * "such as Henry Kissinger, Bob Dole, Colin Powell, George Bush, Condoleeza Rice, Bill Clinton, John Howard, Madeleine Albright, John Major, and others". Name dropping has one purpose only - to impress the reader. It doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article.
 * Also note Notability. The annual survey, which seems to be the most notable thing the association does, isn't even mentioned in the article. With only 200 members, you haven't made it sound like it's a particularly important body. What does a "dedicated presence" mean? Does it just mean you have your own stall? Millions of people have a dedicated presence on Facebook, but it doesn't make them notable.

In short, the whole thing reads like a membership leaflet, and I feel certain someone unconnected with the organisation could have written it better. However, if you still feel you need the draft restored, you have the option to go to Deletion review.Deb (talk) 20:14, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

→→Thank you, Deb! My reasoning is not a rant but rather defending my right to submit a post and have it fairly edited. However, I will go back to the drawing board and create a better end product I appreciate your time put into the explanation.

Signing
At the end of comments on Talk pages or at Teahouse, type four of ~. That 'signs' your User name. David notMD (talk) 20:58, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Sccros (talk) 20:59, 11 September 2019 (UTC) -- Just checking it out. Thank you
 * At the END of comments, not the beginning. Also, a colon at beginning of a comment indents. David notMD (talk) 21:02, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * You might be the most willing to help individual I have had the pleasure of interacting with. Thank you Sccros (talk) 21:04, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I cut some stuff that just pisses off reviewers. I will not be looking at the references to see if they are more than passing mentions of the organization the article is about. Good luck. David notMD (talk) 21:12, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * You've been a great help. Some links will be removed as I have been going through them to determine quality. Thanks again. Sccros (talk) 21:15, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:AFIRE


Hello, Sccros. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "AFIRE".

In accordance with our policy that Wikipedia is not for the indefinite hosting of material deemed unsuitable for the encyclopedia mainspace, the draft has been nominated for deletion. If you plan on working on it further, or editing it to address the issues raised if it was declined, simply and remove the, , or  code.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 02:10, 24 June 2020 (UTC)