User talk:Schissel

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Archives to date: User_talk:Schissel/Archive_10122004 and User_talk:Schissel/Archive05a, User_talk:Schissel/Archive05b (October 2004 to December 2004, January 2005 to mid-June 2005, mid-June 2005 to mid-January 2006, User talk:Schissel/Archive06 for late January '06 to December 27 '06 respectively. Inconsistent naming, I know. May move the barnstar to my main page, very proud to have received it but unsure of policy!) Schissel : bowl listen 16:57, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)


 * Barnstars and such are informal. Put yours whereever it makes you happy; most people put them on their front page or on a subpage. - A Man In Black (Talk | Contribs) 09:32, 28 July 2005 (UTC)

Further: User talk:Schissel/Archive07 and User talk:Schissel/Archive08 for January 3–December 12 07, and January 12–December 11 08.-note added 15 March 09.

Speedy deletion of Paul Rapoport (music critic)
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Hugo Kaun's symphonies
Page 371 of the Goetschius says of Hugo Kaun: "He has created three Symphonies, in D, C minor, and E minor (1915), several Symphonic-Poems, Suites, and other works, orchestral and choral." Since he repeats the word "minor" I thought he meant the one in D is in D major. But I haven't heard any of his music, and I don't know if it any of it has been played in concert or on the radio in the past 20 years. Willi Gers07 (talk) 19:07, 28 January 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for the links. It certainly sounds like it's in a minor key to me. But, as you said, it could well switch to D major at the faster tempo (like Haydn's "London"). Oh, and btw, do you know anything about the Garritan Personal Orchestra? Willi Gers07 (talk) 22:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Dealing with bullies
Say, Schissel, do you know of any way to deal with bullies on Wikipedia? What about a bully who knows Wikipedia's policies backwards and forwards and uses them against those who disagree with him? And what if he does this in a much more sophisticated way than what is described at WP:GAME? A lot of people are aware of this bully but they act as if they're completely powerless to do anything to take him down. Willi Gers07 (talk) 16:32, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

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Ernst Märzendorfer
Cheers. Amazing what one finds when one goes digging. To think that the conductor of the Berlin premiere of Parsifal has only just died - astonishing! -- JackofOz (talk) 19:47, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Works By Mjaskowski
Hi, I just saw your message. I read your article and the information of my Symphony-Articles are mostly from there and from the book of Gulinskaja (and, of course, own ideas). As yet I liked the late Symphonies more, but with the historical background the early works are interesting, too (my favourites are the 21st and the 24th). It's difficult to filter the non-indoctrinated information from Gulinskaja's book, and one thing I didn't understand is: What relationship did Mjaskowski really have to the Sowjet regime? Do you have any other sources? I also wrote an article about the piano sonatas, if you are interested. I'm glad, that my articles will be translated soon and I hope, more people will be interested in this wonderful and exciting music. --Daniel Musiklexikon (talk) 19:33, 20 November 2009 (UTC) (Discussion on my German page)

Thank you for translating the articles. Maybe you can tell me, which articles you will translate next, so I can translate some, too. --Daniel Musiklexikon (talk) 15:21, 21 December 2009 (UTC)

I translated the first symphony here. You can correct the text and use it for en.wikipedia. Thanks! --Daniel Musiklexikon (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Hi, i just wrote this and this. I think I'm going to write about the 12th Symphony next. By the way, do you have any scores of the symphonies? I'm not sure about my examples, you can see, and. If I have enough time, I will translate 6. Sinfonie (Mjaskowki), but that will take a few days... --Daniel Musiklexikon (talk) 17:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I'm very busy at the moment (preparing for a music-contest), so I don't have enough time to translate more articles. By the way, on imslp.org the score of the 13th symphony is now available. --Daniel Musiklexikon (talk) 20:37, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

en. now has article on Rauchenecker
Here at en. we now have an article about Georg Wilhelm Rauchenecker. Don't know what sources de. or es. used, but if my humble little stub doesn't get deleted and it passes muster with you, perhaps you could possibly consider linking it at the IMSLP. I'm not going to get an account at IMSLP since I don't consider myself worthy of IMSLP, people who actually know what they're talking about. Actually, come to think of it, how come IMSLP doesn't link to a more reputable website than Wikipedia, a website actually run by experts and not morons? Or have their own bios of composers? James470 (talk) 06:00, 18 August 2010 (UTC)


 * My favorite Catholic saint is St. Florian, if that tells you anything about the validity of your conclusion. (Look him up in a book, not here, if you care to). Lately I had been annoyed by a couple of morons who think that plagiarizing New Grove is the same as creating fine free content.
 * Anyway, and much more importantly, thank you for telling me about Rauchenecker's two other symphonies. It was difficult enough finding any information on the guy. I have a subscription to Oxford Music Online, and he's mentioned in the Winterthur article. I can't find that mention in either my copy of New Grove (the older edition) and the library is still missing, well, all volumes of the 2001 edition.
 * Still, I remain concerned as to what sources exactly the German Wikipedia used. Though my knowledge of German is only a tiny bit more advanced than Jimbo's. James470 (talk) 06:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for clarifying that.
 * I see Amazon has the Jecklin CD mentioned in one of the Wikipedia pages. Rauchenecker's Quartet in C minor and Goetz's Quartet in B-flat. Just $63 plus shipping and tax. James470 (talk) 00:52, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Copyright reviewer at Wikipedia
Who do I talk about copyright violations in Wikipedia? Does Wikipedia even have copyright reviewers like IMSLP does?

I am concerned that the composer James Lentini is under the serious misapprehension that he is the copyright owner of images of himself (such as File:JimL Guitar.jpg) taken by professional photographers. The particular photographer here probably would have charged him a lot more if he had known his work would wind up on Wikipedia without permission. Incarnatus (talk) 20:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)


 * The problem is I have no idea who the photographer is. All I know for sure is that he didn't take it himself. Incarnatus (talk) 18:16, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Carl Nielsen
Hello Schissel. I'm impressed with all you've been doing to improve Wikipedia's coverage of classical music. I was wondering if I could persuade you to look through the article on Carl Nielsen which I've been trying to expand. If you have any suggestions for further improvement, please let me know - unless of course you would like to contribute yourself. - Ipigott (talk) 17:00, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

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Piano Concerto No. 6 (Beethoven)
Hi, Schissel. I've recently started the article on Beethoven's 6th piano concerto. It would be great if you could give me some help. Thanks! Ocean  Shores 15:11, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

List of symphonies in C sharp minor
Hi-- I just made List of symphonies in C sharp minor into a table per your request. Appreciate the correction on List of symphonies in A flat minor as well. Please let me know if you need other assistance. Thanks! Jokestress (talk) 17:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Witold Maliszewski
Hello Schissel! Nice to meet you in Wikiverse! I would like to ask you a question - where did you find a list of works? Thank you! Semimartingale (talk) 01:25, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

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MSU Interview
Dear Schissel,

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 * I will have a look- sorry about the delay. Will be gone Friday until Tuesday but will get back to you soon. Schissel | Sound the Note! 20:21, 15 February 2012 (UTC)

MSU Interview
Dear Schissel,

My name is Jonathan Obar user:Jaobar, I'm a professor in the College of Communication Arts and Sciences at Michigan State University and a Teaching Fellow with the Wikimedia Foundation's Education Program. This semester I've been running a little experiment at MSU, a class where we teach students about becoming Wikipedia administrators. Not a lot is known about your community, and our students (who are fascinated by wiki-culture by the way!) want to learn how you do what you do, and why you do it. A while back I proposed this idea (the class) to the communityHERE, where it was met mainly with positive feedback. Anyhow, I'd like my students to speak with a few administrators to get a sense of admin experiences, training, motivations, likes, dislikes, etc. We were wondering if you'd be interested in speaking with one of our students.

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Jonathan Obar --Jaobar (talk) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.9.34.167 (talk) 20:57, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

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Studied composition with Karl Marx in Berlin
during the last four years of his life, when Karl Marx was himself only 4 years old? No one checks these things. I am guessing the source of this statement had "Marx" and that composer Adolphe Marx or another was meant? Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:36, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for checking. You're right that it was Adolph Marx. I changed the link. Pkeets (talk) 22:31, 1 February 2013 (UTC)

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Desprez' Gaudeamus Mass attribution(s)
Hi Schissel, I'm a wikipedia newbie who's trying to add to a page about the Missa Gaudeamus of Josquin. This is my first article, so I'm quite cautious both from a technical and historical point of view. I've just started compiling the "sources" section, here are my attempts as far as now

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:UneMusqueDeBiscaye#Sources

when documenting online I've found the imslp page at

http://imslp.org/wiki/Missa_Gaudeamus_%28Josquin_Desprez%29

in which you've indicated a Liepzig print (of 1836) which attributed the mass to Ockegem. I was wondering if you have additional information about it and if you deem my sources section correct and adequate for wikipedia. The interesting point is about the paternity of the edition abscribed to Friedrich Rochlitz...

any suggestion or hints?

thanks a lot for your magnificent work on imslp, hope you will appreciate my little effort to bring Missa Gaudeamus to a larger audience, since it is really a piece of fine art...

une musque de Biscaye (talk) 17:19, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

Hi Shissel, thanks a ton for your information, I've updated the page at Missa_Gaudeamus if you want to have a look.

une musque de Biscaye (talk) 23:52, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

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 * Yes. Adagio is not a disambiguation page - a disambiguation page would provide disambiguation and redirect links for all of its components, which Adagio does not - so Adagio is a target page; in particular, the link referred to Adagio as a composition, and no further redirection was suggested for that, so I linked directly to Adagio, which was the only page available. So I am making no change. Go away until you have something relevant to say. Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:17, 25 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * worklist found in Schmidt, Carl (1995): The music of Francis Poulenc (1899-1963) : a catalogue Oxford: Clarendon Press, and is a cataloguing system, not a composer and/or publisher-applied [[

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 * *6 Etudes (dedicated to Franz Liszt) published 1884 by Wetzler of Wien

Gottfried Eschenbach
Thanks for tagging this, so that I found it while prowling round CAT:HOAX. I have nominated it for deletion - formal notice below. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 15:01, 6 September 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I've been and remain interested in the music of composers similar to Eschenbach-as-described (similar at least in a general way) - who were notable enough to write about for Wikipedia, of course, and who, preferably, actually existed ;). (Given some of the people I have started articles about, that former boundary is not exactly unhoppable, or wasn't at the time.) All the more reason to make sure the hoaxes (attribution and entire) are known for what they are, then... Schissel | Sound the Note! 16:30, 6 September 2014 (UTC)

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Sick Septet no. 1
Hello Schissel, I noticed that you had typeset the bassoon part of the Theodor Sick Septet no. 1 (op 25). I'm in the process of typesetting a complete score and a set of parts, but I figured I'd check if you were working on the rest, so as not to duplicate efforts. ps. do you know anything about Sick? I found nothing on a quick internet search, but the septet looks pretty good. Thanks, Rgotlib Rgotlib (talk) 16:48, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I was working on more but I've set it aside, other projects to do... go ahead! There's a Danish biography of Sick linked to from the DKB website, let me see... well, there's Wikipedia (Danish) (which uses the other bio I referred to as reference, I think.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 17:59, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

ok, thanks. I'll put it up on imslp when it's done. Rgotlib (talk) 18:56, 9 December 2014 (UTC)


 * Neat, looking forward to it. Another thing someone should consider, I keep thinking, is asking the DKB to scan at least one of the many other chamber works by Sick they hold - quite a few string quartets, violin sonatas, cello sonatas, etc., mostly also only in manuscript, listed in their catalog... (the use of "Th. B. Sick" on the manuscripts, together with duplicated opus numbers related to different works and some other stuff, that maybe we're not talking about one composer but maybe two with the same initials- brothers, maybe?... don't know... ... anyway...) Schissel | Sound the Note! 21:17, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I'm all for that. I play cello, and I'd be very interested in seeing those cello sonatas. Do you have any pull with the DKB? (I'm stuck on long island...) Rgotlib (talk) 17:55, 12 December 2014 (UTC)


 * I gather anyone (it helps to know Danish- which I really don't) can sign up for an account there and request for a work to be digitized. I think... Schissel | Sound the Note! 00:39, 14 December 2014 (UTC)

Sorry to keep bothering you, but another question: I just realized that it was you who had scanned in the Fritz Kauffmann cello concerto. I've made a piano reduction, and played it a few times with pianists: it seems a worthy composition. I just completed typesetting the orchestral parts for the first movement (with a view toward playing it with an orchestra), and I wonder: do you know if orchestral parts were available wherever you acquired the score? 24.187.199.178 Rgotlib (talk) 18:31, 2 January 2015 (UTC)


 * The source of my scan was Sibley Library (or as it shows up at IMSLP, "US-R" - US- Rochester.) The Fleisher Collection of the Free Library of Philadelphia does have the parts, though (see Free Library Link.) That section of the library only loans out to institutions, though... The solo cello part, and piano reduction, are at some other libraries (University of Southern California, for instance.) (Other works of Kauffmann's listed by, but not always at, e.g. the Library of Congress catalog include a symphony in A minor Op.18 (pub.1886), piano sonatas (opp.7, 11 pub. 1882, 1883), piano trios (trio no.1 op.9 pub.1881, 1trio no.2 op.20, pub.1887), a string quartet Op.14 (which IMSLP has...), three other concertos- for piano and violin I think (a concerto in D minor Op.27 for violin pub. in 1894, a 2nd violin concerto pub.1909, a piano concerto in C minor Op.25 pub. in 1893), a Dramatic Overture for orchestra Op.23, and an Abendmusik for string quartet (etc.) Schissel | Sound the Note! 05:09, 3 January 2015 (UTC)

Symphony in G minor (Moeran)
Greetings and best wishes from Amsterdam. I just made Moerans Symphony in G minor (Moeran) on the dutch version with most of the details of this English article. However coming to Boults version, I disagree. Boult recorded the work with the New Philharmonia Orchestra for Lyrita, see Amazon LP. The London P as mentioned in the article was "used" for the other works on the Lyrita cd-release.If I am wrong please let me know.Ceescamel (talk) 21:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * I'll look into it. At a guess: (1) you're very likely right (2) Amazon.com is not generally a source I'd rely on, however. I've found some outright temporally impossible statements at sites like Amazon, ImdB (and here, too, but, well, easier to fix them here, relatively, I think...


 * But getting back to topic, I'd use something more official for a source, if one can be found- either a book about Boult, perhaps, with a discography; or a library catalog card entry. Also fallible - library catalog entries have some interesting misattributions, though librarians are on-the-whole willing to discuss and fix them, if convinced, I find..., but on the whole, I think, better than some other sources anyway. (My only contribution to the Moeran symphony article here, I believe, was the date of publication of the score, by the way :) - but happy to discuss!... ) Ah! There it is.  . Schissel | Sound the Note! 22:15, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

Thank you. Normally Amazon is not a favorite source, but they had an original copy of the Lyrita-LP cover (as Ebay had). I tried to find the backcover of the Lyrita CD but couldnot find it. Discogs mentioned the NPO as well, but again no picture. I only have the Handley/Ulster cd of this strange work.Ceescamel (talk) 09:10, 5 January 2015 (UTC)

Allan Pettersson
Hi Schissel, I know you are the main author of Allan Pettersson. I've rearranged and added some parts of the Article and References. Can you please take a look at that, as I'm not a native English speaker. Thanks 109.90.188.105 (talk) 14:44, 19 April 2015 (UTC)

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Thorleif Windingstad
Greetings, the result of reading some different pages....I was working on articles of some not well-known Norwegian composers for the Dutch Wiki. They were named in an ad for Ny Musik in the Aftenposten of 19.12.1917. In that ad was named Romance for violin eller cello og piano by Windingstad. Publisher Oluf By. In a later edition of the newspaper (probably evening) there was also an article about new works of December 1917 (by Hjalmar Borgstrom). Then going to IMLSP (I lost my password there) I found the sheet music without the full name of the composer and the year of publishing. Well, composer was Thorleif Windingstad, an organist (and for a year mayor) from (of) Sandefjord. He was the father of the more famous conductor Ole Windingstad. Here is the link to [Aftenposten]. I don't know if it works directly, otherwise type "Aftenposten 1917.12.19" in "Search", chose "Aviser". Ceescamel (talk) 12:29, 21 June 2015 (UTC)


 * Thank you! - have started to incorporate it, will do so more later when my computer is happier with me. :) Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:54, 21 June 2015 (UTC)

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Isle of the Dead (Rachmaninoff)
Hello there again. I was working on the the dutch version of Isle of the Dead (Rachmaninoff). It seemed the date of first performance was wrong there (1919). Both a biographer as Schott-Music mention 18th of april 1909 (link on the dutch). IMSLP however mentions first of may 1909. Maybe you can do something with that, I am not a member of IMSLP anymore.Ceescamel (talk) 09:20, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Hopefully a scholarly biography of the composer, or a dissertation about the piece, can shed some light on the discrepancy and give a settled answer. I'll try to have a look. Schissel | Sound the Note! 11:51, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
 * April 18 1909 for the first version, according to "Sergei Rachmaninoff: A Lifetime in Music" p157. then revised the tonepoem and conducted it in December 1909 in Chicago (p163). Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:24, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
 * Oh hold on a minute... 1909 Russia OS NS, Julian Grego... Oh no... we standardize on Gregorian here but which is the author above using? that may be why Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:29, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Anton Averkamp
Sorry to bother you again about IMSLP. I am writing an article about Aton Averkamp and saw his composition Elaine und Lancelot there (loaded by you). The first performance ("voor het eerst") took place in Utrecht on march 16th 1898 (woensdag). It was reviewed in a dutch newspaper of march 19th (zaterdag)].Ceescamel (talk) 11:28, 5 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you, very very helpful information- have updated the page! Please, apologies quite unnecessary, far from... Schissel | Sound the Note! 12:22, 5 June 2016 (UTC)

Henri Appy
Hello again, I am working through two Dutch music guides from 1911 and 1881. There I saw the name Appy (Appij). I worked through the entire family (a lot musicians there). Looking at IMSLP I saw you were looking for information about this composer. Well together with the man behind another composer site and a site of Rochester musicians I came to the article nl:Henri Appy. I read some dutch and american newspapers as well. The date of birth in the article was controlled by me in the Civil registration, because it differs from site to site.Ceescamel (talk) 09:19, 11 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks much again! Have incorporated the changes @ IMSLP Schissel | Sound the Note! 02:18, 14 June 2016 (UTC)

Marinus Hendrik van 't Kruijs
On the IMSLP there is some discussion about his name. His real name is Marinus Hendrik van 't Kruijs. His birth certificate is number 15 on this page. His calling name was Marius. Some data can be found on nl:Marius van 't Kruijs.Ceescamel (talk) 15:22, 22 June 2016 (UTC)


 * Noted in the discussion area with credit and links. Much appreciated again! Schissel | Sound the Note! 16:30, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

Beltjens,_Mathias_Joseph_Hubert
There I am again. On IMSLP his date of passing away is wrong. He died on the 12th November. On Familysearch, akte 171, line 7, "twaalfden", and in the newspapers "12den". If he died on the 16th it would be very morbide:-).Ceescamel (talk) 10:31, 24 June 2016 (UTC)


 * I'll look into making that change soon, thanks again. In seriousness shouldn't you consider getting a new account on IMSLP? In fact, when I started on that site all I did, at first, was edit, fix, didn't try to upload anything until quite awhile later - if I remember. Schissel | Sound the Note! 12:34, 24 June 2016 (UTC)

Concertino pour violoncelle et orchestre
Dear Schissel. Answer to the above. Writing about the dutch musicians hard enough. The way the program of IMSLP works, was too difficult for me, but who knows in the future. The work above Roussel is dedicated to Marix Loevensohn, a famous Belgium celloplayer. During a long period he was solocellist of the Concertgebouworchestra. He is described now on the dutch nl:Marix Loevensohn (sometimes spelled Loewensohn).Ceescamel (talk) 09:36, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Jules ten Brink
Hell again, I just made nl:Jules ten Brink for the dutch Wikipedia. On IMSLP there is some discussion about his date of passing away. In the dutch article there is a link to Le Menestrel, with an obituary (necrologie). Le Menestrel was coming out on sunday feb 10th; the obituary names mecredi (Wednesday). So he died the 6th. I changed somewhat on IMSLP the last months, but such a correction is (still) too difficult for me. Greetings,Ceescamel (talk) 12:06, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

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Fritz Kreisler, possibly more
Greetings. In 2007, you sent a newbie greeting with an admonition to this editor. As it turns out, this editor did just a | handful of edits to classical music articles, including | this one to Fritz Kreisler. Your comments to this 'brief encounter' editor indicate a knowledge of classical music. You'll notice that the edit reads like a copy and paste, plus it uses the non-descriptive term 'expansive tempi!' If you know where to find better descriptions of information of this sort, or know folks who specialize in cleaning up this sort of (imagine a polite term), please do Wikipedia a favor and fix Kreisler and, if possible, the other articles edited by this person. Regards, Tapered (talk) 11:24, 28 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Apologies- will look into it soon :( !! Schissel | Sound the Note! 20:30, 1 December 2016 (UTC)

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Symphony No. 6 (Bax)
Greetings from the Netherlands again. I made the Dutch version of Symphony No. 6 (Bax) and there are some differences in orchestration and premiere. Reading the printed score on IMSLP there are indeed 3 flutes, but flute 3 is also playing the piccolo (see page 2 of part 1; change to flute). The clarinet III is also playing the Es-clarinet (also mentioned in the early pages of part 1). Strange is that IMSLP takes the orchestration of the Wikipedia, while there have the printed score. For the premiere Foreman and Parlett mentioned the London Philharmonic Orchestra at the Royal Philharmonic Society. The Royal Philharmonic did not existed then (only from 1946). Please confirm my marks and change the article on Wiki and IMSLP if I am right. For me, Bax's 3 is the best.Ceescamel (talk) 11:17, 26 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Edited @ IMSLP and noted on the talk page here @ Wikipedia. Schissel | Sound the Note! 01:44, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

"this paragraph reads like someone's been vandalizing it"
Hi, thanks for correcting my mistakes. Especially with the grammar. Re fortune/misfortune thanks for that also. I have aphasia and it is crazy sometimes spending ten minutes on a sentence figuring out the best way to express what I want to say.Rybkovich (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2018 (UTC)

Jacques Gregoir
Greetings again. I made the Dutch version of Jacques Gregoir. It is strange that you and the Ca-version name him "Jacques". Also IMSLP names him that way. However, all the sheetmusic there carries the name Joseph/Jos. Gregoir. This name is mentioned on the Fr and in the Hofmeister-collection. I leave it to you, if you want to change it.Ceescamel (talk) 14:32, 9 May 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks. Raising the issue for discussion on the IMSLP page for starters, and will do so here on Wikipedia as well. (My time is somewhat limited at the moment by a move upcoming - in two days - but I will keep this in mind :) ) Schissel | Sound the Note! 14:39, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

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