User talk:Schlieph

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Hello, Schlieph, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your messages on discussion pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically insert your username and the date. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question on this page and then place  before the question. Again, welcome! CutOffTies (talk) 19:10, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
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Stow, Massachusetts
Do you really think an encyclopedia article about a town needs to list a bunch of apple orchards and details about picking and a website? This isn't a tourist guide or a vehicle to promote an activity and/or business. Thank you --CutOffTies (talk) 19:12, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

the same 'encyclopedia article' references several golf courses and names them. how is this different than naming apple orchards?

i've lived in stow for many years and know for certain that the apple orchards -are- a point of interest and attract more city dwellers than you can possibly imagine. please explain then, how apple orchards aren't a 'point of interest'.

i have no financial interest in any of the orchards and made sure that my reference included all of them. i added a link for orchards with websites. i don't have a problem eliminating the links if that's what's rubbing you the wrong way.

this is my first venture into wikipedia and i'm not familiar with etiquette or who ultimately has power of adjudication. if you persist in deleting my reference to apple orchards, i will figure it out and present the matter to them.

again, my point is that stow is well known for golf courses -and- apple orchards. if you have a problem with one of those, it stands to reason that the other is also unacceptable.

thanks/regards, .. Schlieph (talk) 00:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * You are correct that the golf courses should not be listed like that. I trimmed it. Oh, and both of those entries could be removed entirely because there no third party reliable sources to verify. As it stands now, it is original research Thank you. --CutOffTies (talk) 20:39, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

-- again, i would point out that this is my first venture into wikipedia. please bear with me. are you acting purely on your own or do you have some type of official capacity with wikipedia? if so, what exactly is it called?

-- just curious .. how do you justify mentioning one of the golf courses? what if one of the apple orchards has been officially noted as 'best in class' or some such accolade?

-- as for reliable sources, would the USGA and/or PGA registry suffice for the golf courses? Schlieph (talk) 00:57, 28 July 2011 (UTC)


 * I am a volunteer and have no official capacity. I recommend reading some of the links in the message at the top of this page if you're curious about Wikipedia.  Take it slow, as it may be overwhelming at first.
 * For the question about sources, ideally you should have third party reliable sources like a newspaper or magazine. If you could find a source lauding the golf courses or orchards, by all means, go and add it. I can tell you that a line such as "Contact details, directions, seasonal hours, and other information can be found at Orange Pippin (www.orangepippin.com)" is not okay. This is not the yellow pages or a directory. Check out what Wikipedia is not if you'd like to find out. Thanks. --CutOffTies (talk) 01:06, 28 July 2011 (UTC)