User talk:Schneehasi

PLease stop, your edits are causing problems in that you are put these into categopries to which they dont belong, such edit could be considered vandalism, Gnangarra 02:16, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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 * Hmm, it would appear that you also used another account,, to perform similar edits. Have you consulted our policies and guidelines, including our policy about sockpuppetry? Are there any other accounts you would like to claim? -- slakr  \ talk / 06:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * The account belongs to a friend of mine and is not a sockpuppet. I do not have any other Wikipedia accounts. My friend and I work in the same building and are on the same network and did collaborate on the wording of the edits we were each making. This is why we have the same IP address. While I appreciate your concern about sockpuppetry we are two separate people. If such collaboration is regarded as sockpuppetry then we will not make the same edits as one another again. I would like you to consider the merit of the proposed rewording and whether the block is warranted in the first place. That is, why is CARMA not a reliable source, at least for an estimate, and how can the other two sentences be regarded as having unreliable sources? In any event I ask you to consider whether links to CARMA in support of an estimate of greenhouse gas emissions can properly be regarded as spamming under Wikipedia policy. Thank you for taking the time to consider these issues. Schneehasi (talk) 23:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Assuming that you are both different people, you are both making identical edits Wikipedia doesnt make any distinction between a sockpuppet or a meatpuppet see WP:SOCK. Either way the action of both accounts only further confirms that the purpose of the edits was to spam Wikipedia with Carma links... Gnangarra 23:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm disappointed that you are assuming bad faith on my part and not addressing the issue of whether CARMA is a reasonable source for an estimate of the greenhouse gas emissions of these individual power stations. I'm also disappointed, that you have not addressed why the statements and sources in the second and third sentences are spamming or unreliable. I have accepted that the type of collaboration we did may not be appropriate however I do not accept, that CARMA is not a reliable source for an estimate of greenhouse gas emissions and I would like to appeal your decision on that issue and I ask for a consideration of that issue by other administrators. I do however appreciate the time you are taking to resolve this. Sincerely Schneehasi (talk) 01:25, 19 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you Sarah for considering my request. I talked to my other friends and found that phanly also made one edit re Kogan Power Station. Paul is a longstanding editor and is clearly not a sockpuppet. Can we separate three issues. The first is whether collaboration between people to edit a series of pages is spamming or sockpuppetry even if the edits are otherwise okay. Second whether CARMA is a reasonable source for an estimate of greenhouse gas emissions from an Australian coal fired power station. Third whether in a page on an Australian coal fired power station a reference to the IPCC findings and the Australian governments stated policy is spamming or unreliable. I request that the blocking decision separately consider each of these issues. If the collaboration is unacceptable I will not do it again. This leaves the other two issues which I believe should be decided in my favour as the IPCC findings and the Australian government policy are relevant to each major source of greenhouse gas emissions. Thanks again for taking the time to consider this block Schneehasi (talk) 02:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I cannot believe that you and Phanly just happened to be making near identical edits at the same time without knowledge of the other accounts until now. A much simpler, obvious and credible explanation is that Phanly is using these accounts to edit disruptively and spam in order to keep his primary account "clean". As you say - "Paul is a longstanding editor and is clearly not a sockpuppet" - this is not only rubbish (plenty of so-called "longstanding editors" have turned out to be socks or sockmasters) but also a rationale and motivation to use socks and apparently expect to keep his primary account detached and with a clean record. We have had a checkuser check run which confirms that the same person is operating all these accounts - Requests for checkuser/Case/Phanly. That's really the icing on the cake as the behaviour and editing evidence here were really sufficient enough on their own to justify blocking these accounts. In addition,  is also blocked indefinitely, as is this account. And Phanly is blocked for 8 days - ten days, being seven days for this disruptive editing block, less time served (about two days), plus three days for Phanly's disruptive editing and sockpuppetry. I really urge you to use this block to take a break and rethink what you are doing here because you're heading straight towards a ban if you continue in this way. Sarah 06:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)

Blocked again
You have been from editing in accordance with Wikipedia's blocking policy for continuing to add spam links. Persistent spammers will have their websites blacklisted from Wikipedia and potentially penalized by search engines. If you believe this block is unjustified, you may contest the block by adding the text below.