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Election box templates
User Neveselbert has modified several election box templates. As these are used on tens of thousands of pages I feel that some sort of consensus should be required to do so. I can't revert most of them so was wondering if you could? These ones in particular:


 * Template:Election box informal
 * Template:Election box majority
 * Template:Election box registered electors
 * Template:Election box total
 * Template:Election box turnout

Thanks. Kiwichris (talk) 09:46, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Have left a message on his talk page under your message. Let’s see what will happen.  Schwede 66  16:49, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Well, it would seem unlikely that a self revert will occur or even for a proper discussion to happen. The user is now inferring that I'm accusing them of bad faith, which I most certainly have not. I suggest now that an admin should revert the changes per WP:CYCLE which hopefully could start a more constructive dialogue. Kiwichris (talk) 01:41, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , I have been at Totaranui for the last couple of days; no cell coverage. I suggest that you put your reason why you disagree with at least one aspect of the changes to Neveselbert; stay calm even if you get accused of bad faith. That will move it from maintenance to controversial, and as soon as it's disputed, the edit can be reversed (for interest, have a read of WP:TPEREVOKE). Given that I've been WP:INVOLVED, the reverting shouldn't come from me. Maybe involve Primefac as they have only just granted template editor rights to Neveselbert.  Schwede 66  19:03, 2 April 2018 (UTC)

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Margi Robertson
Thank you for your help with the entry Margi Robertson. It has proven invaluable and I appreciate the time and attention that you devoted to the task. I am new to Wikipedia and still trying to get my head around the citation system. I noticed that you seem to suggest that I enter newspaper articles using the "manual" mode and then checking "news" for the template. I noticed that this gives a different format (or maybe I am doing something wrong) than checking "automatic" (last name first for example). Is it preferable to use the "automatic" function as opposed to the "manual function"? I have been using the "automatic" function for online sources and only entering these manually when the "automatic" function fails (generates a message saying that it cannot generate the citation automatically). I have been using the manual function only when the automatic function fails or when I am citing hardcopy. Do let me know if I am doing something wrong here. I am accustomed to a number of different referencing systems but find that this knowledge doesn't translate well into the Wikipedia environment. Any advice you might have would be much appreciated.Yrarendar (talk) 05:08, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , welcome to WP and thank you for your contributions. Yes, it's a long and steep learning curve. I'm not familiar with the system of creating references that you describe, so I don't really know how that works. There are slight differences between template:cite web and template:cite news but if your system doesn't give you those options, then don't worry about it and keep doing what you are doing. Wikipedia is an exercise in collaboration; if it's not 100% right, somebody else can and (at least eventually) will fix it. Feel free to ask any questions you may have or for assistance with further articles. And a tip – it's easier for others if you wikilink relevant pages in talk page discussions (for example, I've edited your entry above so that the bio in question is linked).  Schwede 66  19:15, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your prompt and helpful response. I will remember to add links next time! Yrarendar (talk) 04:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Dunedin City Council Website link
Kiaora,

I was using another wikipeida page: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_authorities_of_New_Zealand) to glean information from the websites of all local authorities in NZ. Most of them have an external link to the TLA's website with the name of the Council, rather than "Official Site", so I changed Dunedin's to be more consistent with the rest. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophocrat (talk • contribs) 02:41, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks,, for letting me know. Tēnā koe.  Schwede 66  04:34, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Redirects
Why did you set up redirects for pages related to the 2018 Commonwealth Games? Its hard to tell now which articles need creating and also discourages editors from creating the article (as they would assume that the article exists). Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 18:48, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, . The "its hard to tell now which articles need creating" bit doesn't apply to my personal setup as I use linkclassifier. As a result, redirects show up as green for me instead of blue and I immediately see where they are. It had not occurred to me that there could be problems arising from having a redirect, e.g. discouraging editors from creating the article. The point of having a redirect is, of course, to guide readers to somewhere that gives some information that they are after. In this case, it points them to Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games.


 * Here's a complete list of redirects that I set up for your benefit:
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's road race
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's road race
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's road time trial
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's road time trial
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's points race
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's points race
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's scratch race
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's 1 km time trial
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's 500 m time trial
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Men's cross-country
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's cross-country
 * Cycling at the 2018 Commonwealth Games – Women's tandem 1 km time trial B


 * I hope that helps.  Schwede 66  18:58, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't know about that tool. Is it accessible to everyone? Sportsfan 1234 (talk) 19:01, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
 * It's super-handy and should be easy enough for you to install. I see that you don't have a Javascript page set up so you don't use these kinds of tools. Have a look at my setup. Of those, the DYK tool would probably not relevant to you (unless you do participate in DYK), and userRightsManager is something that is only applicable to admins. The rest might be of interest to you.  Schwede 66  19:09, 12 April 2018 (UTC)


 * Just an update that all articles have now been created (by other editors; not me). So all's good.  Schwede 66  22:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Leslie Andrew
Hi Schwede66, our paths have crossed a few times on NZ soldier biographies that have political elements. I was wondering if you may be able to assist with the Leslie Andrew article, which is presently undergoing a A-Class review at Milhist. One of the sources I used in expanding the article mentions that he was approached to run for parliament some time in the 1950s/1960s. Unfortunately the source doesn't say who approached him - I suspect it was the National Party but it would be good to confirm this. From an edit you made on the Reginald Judson article, I think you may have the book on the history of the National Party by Gustafson. Is there a possibility you could check this, or any other resources for which you may have ready access, to confirm who approached Andrew? It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Zawed (talk) 10:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , I've checked Gustafson's book and Andrew doesn't appear in the index. It would have surprised me if he had been mentioned, though. The book covers 50 years, i.e. roughly 16 general elections and dozens of by-elections. With something like 70 electorates, that makes for talking to a lot of people who eventually won't stand in the election. I guess one day, news media from the 1950s/60s will have been digitised and that may reveal something, although those private conversations may not have become public. Either way, I see your GAs coming through by keeping an eye on article alerts and I'm rather impressed by your output. Well done.  Schwede 66  18:40, 19 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for looking into that, much appreciated. Zawed (talk) 08:12, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1972 New Zealand eight
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 1972 New Zealand eight you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zawed -- Zawed (talk) 00:41, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

More starts ?
Hey Schwede, thanks for updating article status of Geoffrey Rees from stub to start. What's your view on the status of Campbell Johnstone, Marina Cade, Deirdre Fraser, Virginia Lee ? Rgds - Sticks 66 09:15, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
 * , I've had a look and upgraded those that make the cut. The remaining ones need a bit more prose. Keep up the good work.  Schwede 66  10:01, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

Glenn Turner move
You just moved stating no primary topic based on page view analysis, but you did not include the correct spelling of Glenn Turner (you missed an N). Was this deliberate? Glenn Turner has more views thatn the rest combined, so I would say is the primary topic. Spike &#39;em (talk) 18:37, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Oh, what a nice stuff up! Thanks for spotting. I'll better undo what I've been working on.  Schwede 66  18:39, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * No probs Spike &#39;em (talk) 18:42, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Should be all fixed again.  Schwede 66  18:57, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

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Arthur W V Reeve
Have added dates and refs for the article on Arthur W. V. Reeve. Hugo999 (talk) 14:28, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks, . The full life range is supposed to be shown in the lead, too (not just in the infobox), so I've added that for you.  Schwede 66  19:18, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

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A token of appreciation
Thanks for familiarizing me about WP:REDYES. Cheers Sharkslayer87 (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I see you are a new editor, . Welcome to the team. There's a huge, steep learning curve ahead for you. Keep up your good work and feel free to ask for advice whenever you need it.  Schwede 66  23:50, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Start v stub ?
Schwede would you mind taking a look at these rowers for a view on whether they're start class yet ? Miranda Bennett; Marguerite Houston; Sally Causby; Jo Lips; Eliza Blair; Malcolm Batten; Dale Caterson. Rgds Sticks 66 04:11, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Maybe this one too Robyn Selby Smith. Cheers Sticks 66 10:33, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , all dealt with. The Causby article needed a bit more prose so I've added some myself.  Schwede 66  19:25, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thankyou. Sticks 66 04:06, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of 1972 New Zealand eight
The article 1972 New Zealand eight you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:1972 New Zealand eight for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Zawed -- Zawed (talk) 08:01, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Tony Wilding
That's not correct, see also MOS:NICKNAME: "If a person has a common English-language hypocorism (diminutive or abbreviation) used in lieu of a given name, it is not presented between quotation marks or parentheses into or after their name." Mention it elsewhere if you can source it, do not include in the opening name. GiantSnowman 19:17, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled

 * Please give me the right for autopatrolled i have fixed the url bare problem and default sort and will take care of that in future and yess i am kind of weak in grammar and my english might be shaky but i will improve it in upcoming days. Hope to get it. MT KASHTALK Contribs 10:48, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Wrong place to ask for it. You know where you need to ask.  Schwede 66  17:36, 17 May 2018 (UTC)

Ryan Sandford
You can still nominate an article for deletion via PROD if it has been previously tagged with BLLPROD - WP:PROD clearly states that "a special case is BLPPROD: an article which has had the BLPPROD-tag removed still can be PRODed via the process described here." I'd therefore respectfully invite you to restore the PROD tag on this article. GiantSnowman 15:36, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My apology; you are indeed correct.  Schwede 66  15:41, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you, much appreciated. GiantSnowman 16:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Derbycountyinnz
derbycountyinnz falsely accused me of being a sock puppet and you didn’t threaten to suspend his account Coolguy48s (talk) 09:16, 23 May 2018 (UTC)

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Any possibility of instigating an RFC on the macron naming thing?
Would you (or another experienced editor) be interested in getting the ball rolling with a RFC to lead to a policy change on NZ place name titles? I'm new to this, and have already posted quite a bit in an argument that seems to be just repeating itself. Perhaps we can start to bring this to a resolution. —Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 07:02, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
 * , have only just caught up with where the debate got to. Sure, I can try and help with setting up an RFC.  Schwede 66  19:57, 28 May 2018 (UTC)

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Template:2000 New Zealand Olympic team
Hi Schwede66. Just a heads-up - this template is missing all the judoka. The full list is here. Thanks.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:32, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
 * , my guess is that I produced the template based on the corresponding article as the judoka are missing the there as well.  Schwede 66  17:41, 3 June 2018 (UTC)

It's a shame that...
The infobox on 1979 World Rowing Championships is so long (& wide) that it restricts the width of the men's event listing and causes all names (first & surnames) to split over two lines. Similar on 1975 World Rowing Championships although it's not quite so bad. Any clues on what to do ? Suppose if I had a a few lines of copy to add to the lead paragraph that would drop the events box, but I'm not sure what's interesting to say about these c'ships. Sticks 66 09:05, 9 June 2018 (UTC)


 * Well, the "problem" you raise is dependent on your screen size and the magnification that you set within your web browser. For example, looking at those articles on my iPhone, the ibox is entirely above the results tables. On my laptop, the ibox overlaps with the first results table but that doesn't cause any names to spill over two lines. But your thinking is correct; the best thing you could possibly do is to simply add some text. There is a lot that can be said about individual championships, see for example 1978 World Rowing Championships, 1990 World Rowing Championships (an issue for just one country), or 2010 World Rowing Championships. Many of the pre-1980s European Rowing Championships also have a lot of prose. Finding something about events in the 1970s or 1980s can be the tricky thing; the British blog Rowing Story is a good source. And although blogs are often regarded with scepticism by Wikipedians, this particular one is a quality source that I recommend.  Schwede  66  18:10, 9 June 2018 (UTC)

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Re: Winston Peters "Vandalising"
In regards to your warning about "vandalising", I wish to justify the revertions made, and acknowledge having forgotten to do so in the revertions made to edits in the first place. I am aware this may have contributed to your concern. The edits I reverted removed the office held by Winston Peters that is "Acting Prime Minster of New Zealand", unnecessarily so. It should not have been removed and subsequently noted in his Deputy PM office for several reasons. There is precedent for such use, look to Helen Clark's article and see 'Acting Foreign Minister' is afforded a separate office. This is for a simple reason, because it is a separate office, as is Acting PM. Which is why it is wrong to note that Winston Peters is Acting PM in the office for Deputy PM, because it has nothing to do with the office of Deputy PM. It is afforded to he/she who is next in line (cabinet rankings). Winston does not hold the office of Prime Minister and it is therefore appropriate to maintain what was. I hope you understand and I apologise for not having justified earlier. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drtimberman (talk • contribs) 09:05, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the explanation, . Using meaningful edit summaries is indeed a useful thing to do.  Schwede 66  09:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Howdy Schwede66. What annoys me, is that Drtimberman was away from Wikipedia for about 8 months & suddenly today, he shows up & acts like he in charge of the Peters article. Not good. GoodDay (talk) 13:16, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Updates to template
A while ago you (completely validly) criticised some of the female academic articles I was creating for MOS issues. I'm not back from a enforced break from keyboarding and getting back into this work. I work from a template at User:Stuartyeates/sandbox/academicbio and you're welcome to tweak it to fix any remaining issues. Feel free to add little comments anywhere you notice me getting things wrong too. Stuartyeates (talk) 19:53, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Good. I've tweaked your template.  Schwede 66  21:22, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

Autopatrolled
Our discussion over the autopatrolled right was archived. What would you like to do? ɱ (talk) · vbm  · coi) 19:54, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the reminder; see Requests for permissions/Autopatrolled.  Schwede 66  21:48, 25 June 2018 (UTC)

Biographies
How does Denise Wilson measure up? Looks like I'm getting back into the swing of these after my injury, with no difficulty typing, thankfully. Stuartyeates (talk) 10:01, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Fixing the template certainly made a difference.  Schwede 66  19:08, 28 June 2018 (UTC)