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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:58, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Another DYK?
Happy weekend. I've written another article, and have a DYK in mind. Are you happy to do the honors, and get the credit, and I will do the QPQ?

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D824:4DA4:FB20:168F (talk) 00:07, 2 July 2023 (UTC) "... Save America, Donald Trump's political action committee, paid $132,000 to former First Lady Melania Trump’s fashion stylist?

["Former President Donald Trump's Save America leadership PAC paid at least $132,000 to Melania Trump's former hairdresser in 2022, dubbing the expenditure as payment for "strategy consulting," according to a report from the group.] 2603:7000:2101:AA00:D5F4:62BB:3422:5C84 (talk) 18:52, 1 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I’ll get onto it once I get to my laptop.  Schwede 66  00:17, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Template:Did you know nominations/Save America. Anything to do with Trump usually causes fireworks. Wouldn't be surprised if this isn't any different.  Schwede 66  01:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Understood. Well, it is the fourth of July weekend Stateside. Many thanks as always! (Do we get credit on the days, that we can apply to the Langer DYK? (not serious .. but sort of). 2603:7000:2101:AA00:71BF:46EA:CE27:4F87 (talk) 04:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure who put in the alt for the hook, but apart from it being longer, it doesn't obviously hook to the new article in question at all. The reader would (rightly, imho) think it is a link to what "political action committee" means. Less than stellar, perhaps, as a hook. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:71BF:46EA:CE27:4F87 (talk) 06:58, 2 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK for Keaton Winn
Thank you for another good one! - My story today is very personal: the DYK appeared on Wikipedia's 15th birthday, and describes a concert I sang. I was requested to translate the bio into German for a memorial concert ... - see background, and we talked about life and death. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:32, 12 July 2023 (UTC)

While today's DYK highlights Santiago on his day, I did my modest share with my story today, describing what I just experienced, pictured. I began the article of the woman in green. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:17, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Today Jahrhundertring, and I just listened to Götterdämmerung from the Bayreuth Festival (pictured), - the image (of a woman who can't believe what she has to see) features also on the article talk. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:59, 31 July 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Jack Langer
Hello (to the IP who maybe frequents here?)! The submission of Jack Langer at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be addressed. Please review the comments at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Hameltion (talk &#124; contribs) 23:01, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


 * They are keeping an eye on all their nominations, . But thanks for the heads up.  Schwede 66  23:11, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

MP ERRORS
, I am banned from ITN/C, but not from Main Page ERRORS discussions of ITN items. Please follow the rules. Danke. – Sca (talk) 18:27, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * I suggest that you stay away from the ITN part of Errors to meet the spirit of the ban, . I was reminded of that ban by reverting your Errors contributions yesterday.  Schwede  66  18:46, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Please note that my suggestion of "forthcoming" was essentially adopted by whoever inserted "upcoming." -- Sca (talk) 18:58, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * That’s irrelevant.  Schwede 66  19:06, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Schönen Tag noch. -- Sca (talk) 22:12, 14 July 2023 (UTC)

2023 SAG-AFTRA strike
There's some kind of weird double redirect going on with the Talk page?...please see Talk:2023 Hollywood actors strike and. I don't want to wade in and try to fix it... Thanks, Shearonink (talk) 22:43, 14 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Excuse the late reply. By the time I looked, somebody had already fixed it up.  Schwede 66  09:22, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

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 * @MurielMary, I'm sure you'd be interested in knowing that I've (successfully) received this.  Schwede 66  09:20, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, isn't that great! It went to all 227 editors in the category "WikiProject New Zealand members". MurielMary (talk) 10:10, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

ITN Question
Hello. I don't often contribute at ITN, so I'm not sure of the procedure for this, but what should I do if I wasn't credited for something that got posted? I contributed for Simpson Kalisher but I did not want to add myself to the credits because I don't like to edit other people's posts. Hey man im josh (talk) 14:08, 28 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Well, it’s not a post that belongs to another editor, but something that another editor started. If you made a significant contribution, the only sure way of receiving a credit is to add yourself to the list. If that feels a bit out there, you can always ping the proposer via an edit summary.  Schwede  66  16:16, 28 July 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:54, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Today's featured article/October 26, 2023
I couldn't figure out what was going on here, but the article did run at TFA back in May, and articles are only eligible to re-run after 5 years from the previous TFA appearance. Let me know if there's anything I can help with. - Dank (push to talk) 02:35, 10 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note, . I can't recall why I moved the item. If it did run on the original date, then all is good.  Schwede 66  05:15, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Pigache Article
I loved it. @acslatt on insta 2603:9001:6B00:6856:D508:BEF1:D650:BE88 (talk) 05:37, 14 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Good to know.  Schwede 66  06:44, 14 August 2023 (UTC)

Wet Woman in the Wind
Hello @Schwede66, I hope you're doing well. I am trying to explore and learn new languages, so its my new creation. Should I continue exploring or hold back. Thanks, eagerly waiting for your honest opinion. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 09:32, 19 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message, . Can't comment, I'm afraid, as that's not my area of expertise (movie notability, Japanese translations). Categorisation is obviously a bit thin.  Schwede 66  10:07, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @Schwede66 Thanks for looking into it. C1K98V (💬 ✒️ 📂) 10:18, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

Your thoughts?
Hi. I wrote this new article Lindsey Halligan. I was considering trying to cobble together a DYK, perhaps mentioning her prior history and current legal focus, but wasn't sure whether that would be viewed as acceptable. Thoughts? It may be that you would prefer to see what I have in mind. Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C23:BA62:4197:5856 (talk) 04:19, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * "... that before Lindsey Halligan became a lawyer for Donald Trump in a criminal matter, she was an insurance lawyer?" "Trump's other Florida-based lawyer is Lindsey Halligan, a Florida insurance lawyer that handles residential and commercial claims....".
 * If you think this is OK, please submit it and I will as usual do a qpq. Many thanks. (Also working on a baseball dyk I'll run by you.). --2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCC9:7E7B:26A9:1834 (talk) 16:53, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'll decline this one. And sorry for not replying earlier; saw this and then forgot. This would trigger too much discussion as to whether we should run a Trump-related hook in the first place given that he's a political candidate. Maybe post a request at WT:DYK to see whether someone else is keen to nominate?  Schwede 66  18:58, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I followed your advice. And trimmed the dyk, to take out mention of a candidate. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCC9:7E7B:26A9:1834 (talk) 19:49, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Possible DYK
"... that Kyle Harrison  struck out more batters per 9 innings in 2022 than any other minor league baseball pitcher in a season in the prior 62 years?"


 * "He averaged 14.81 strikeouts per 9.0 innings over the 2022 season, the highest rate for a pitcher in the minors (min. 100ip) in a season dating back to 1960."


 * Your thoughts? Happy to do a qpq.

2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCC9:7E7B:26A9:1834 (talk) 17:04, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm onto it.  Schwede 66  19:06, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Bummer; this one isn't eligible. I had the nomination nearly ready but I thought to check the split that did from the San Francisco Giants minor league players. The prose size of what he copied across was 5100 bytes. The current prose size is 6192 bytes. Therefore, the content is not new and neither is it a 5-times expansion, and it thus does not meet DYK requirements. Sorry! Good that I checked as otherwise, you would have wasted a QPQ.  Schwede  66  19:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry - but question.
 * First of all, it's the first time it's a standalone article of such size. Before, it was less than 20% when it was a standalone. It most recently was not a standalone, but was was split out from a larger article. Does it matter that it is for the first time 5x what it was as a standalone? (the rule reads "At the time of nomination, an article must be ... expanded fivefold... in the seven days preceding a nomination.)
 * Second, and this is for me to check, but I think I expanded the non-standalone from which it was split a lot in the prior days .. but have to check how much. --2603:7000:2101:AA00:CCC9:7E7B:26A9:1834 (talk) 19:43, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
 * First, it has to be new content. Using content from another article does not count as new. Second, I’ve worked it out for you; see above. It’s a 1.2 times expansion; nowhere near 5 times.  Schwede 66  10:28, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah. I didn't know, and couldn't find any rule about expansion. Thanks for letting me know. An odd thing about it - if one writes content within a larger article, and if the increase is 5x as to the subject that will be split out, one can't then seek a DYK for it (if the larger page is not increased 5x). But then if two weeks later one splits it out, one still can't seek a DYK on the new page. Perhaps a bit of a catch-22. Very much appreciate your sage advice, and checking the size - above and beyond. You're an awesome wikipedian. Bet. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:948B:39F8:685B:16A6 (talk) 18:48, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you; appreciate your kind words. The newness rule is explained at WP:DYK5X.  Schwede 66  19:29, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Interestingly, that rule does not appear to address the instance of splitting, leading to the creation of a new article. Or, as in this case, an article that is more than 5x the size of its prior standalone article. It says: "This calculation is made from the last version of the article before the expansion began ..." Which perhaps lends itself, I would think, to the position that what we look at is only standalone articles for this purpose. For the reasons above, I see this as having some logic to it. But I can understand, as this is less than clear, others having a differing view.2603:7000:2101:AA00:948B:39F8:685B:16A6 (talk) 23:17, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's fair enough. It's not super-explicit. Let me copy into this conversation as she maintains the rules. And perhaps there's a need to move this discussion to WP:TDYK if we want to tweak the text.  Schwede  66  23:25, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The relevant rule on splits is actually in WP:DYKLEN: Splits from non-new articles are ineligible, but if the copied text does not exceed one-fifth of the total prose size, the article can be considered eligible as a fivefold expansion of the copied text. So the copied text isn't new, but if you can fivefold expand it with new text, that would count. theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I've created WP:DYKSPLIT as a shortcut for future reference :) theleekycauldron (talk • contribs) (she/her) 00:05, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Great! Thanks. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:C8EE:F4EF:CDC4:A70 (talk) 17:02, 26 August 2023 (UTC)

Capitalisation
Evening Schwede66,

Just going over the capitalisation of the word 'homestead' in those planned pages on my user page, you've suggested they be lowercased. I would have thought that the titles of those future articles would be capitalised. This would be in keeping with with other homesteads/buildings, i.e., Riccarton House, Homebush Homestead and Linwood House, just to name a few and the fact they are pronouns.

Let me know what you think!

Cheers, Lord A.Nelson (talk) 07:21, 25 August 2023 (UTC)


 * It depends whether the "homestead" part belongs to the common name. For example, Riccarton House is clearly the name of the building and it is never abbreviated to just Riccarton. "Homestead", on the other hand, may be part of a name (if so, you’d capitalise it) or is may be a descriptor (in which case, you can leave it off and when you do use it, it’s lower case). It’s sometimes a judgement call.  Schwede 66  10:25, 25 August 2023 (UTC)

What does "df=y" mean in infoboxes?
Can you explain to me please? Thanks. Hamtrane (talk) 12:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Sure, . It means "day first" and the output of the date will be in dmy format (e.g. 31 August 2023). Without that parameter, the date will be shown in mdy format (e.g. August 31, 2023). Most countries use dmy format. You can find more info on date formats at MOS:DATEFORMAT.  Schwede 66  16:55, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

Possible DYK
Hi. Would you be interested in perhaps posting this expanded DYK? I of course would do the required check of another DYK. (Not your sport here, I know).

2603:7000:2101:AA00:4CA9:6B0D:E90D:8972 (talk) 22:09, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
 * ... that major league baseball player Wade Meckler was 4ft 10in tall, and weighed 75 pounds (34 kilograms), as a high school freshman? "As a freshman at Esperanza High School in Anaheim, the undersized outfielder measured only 4-foot-10, 75 pounds"


 * Sure. I'll nominate it right now.  Schwede 66  04:08, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Great! Thank you. 2603:7000:2101:AA00:2980:DF82:44B4:A169 (talk) 08:24, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * By the way, this is currently under discussion at Wikipedia_talk:Did_you_know. Could you please weigh in?  Schwede 66  22:34, 20 September 2023 (UTC)

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