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I have been attempting to update my own Wikipedia page
Hello - I have been attempting to update my own Wikipedia page. I am Rian Hughes, and some of the information is very old, incomplete or incorrect. I have tried to do this in a factual and not self-promoting manner, as per guidelines.

However, it appears it's all been deleted/reverted. This was a good few hours work, and I did not save the text myself. I am no Wiki expert, so could you tell me why, and how to reinstate it?

I also need to add a new section called "Novels" to address the two new novels.

Thanks

Rian Hughes

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Reply from ScienceService
Thanks for getting back to me.

I'm afraid detailing the edits one by one might be a time-consuming process - it's more that I've added more information, as a comparison between my edited version and the original will show. I'd be very hard to list them all individually, as it's not just one or two things.

But, to summarise what I have done: • Brought the various sections (design, logos, comics, etc) up to date • Fixed bibliography, and added missing titles • Added links to newspaper reviews, interviews, etc. To do: Add new section about the two novels (XX and The Black Locomotive).

If there is any issue with the tone or factual accuracy, do let me know. I realise that if you edit your own page there may be a temptation to exaggerate or add misleading material, but I have striven to just be factual. As it stands, the page is probably around 10-15 years out of date, and focusses on things that are no longer current. With all the above in mind, would it be possible to put the edits I made back?

Many thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.183.61 (talk) 17:26, 19 October 2021 (UTC)

New reply from ScienceService, November 9
Thanks for the feedback. I've found the old version, and am pasting references (after asterisks) for each addition below.

(I also edited the existing text for grammar and typos, so it'd be good to go with the updated version throughout if possible.)

Overviews Rian Hughes' work appeared in the long-lived anthology title2000 AD on the series Robo-Hunter, Tales from Beyond Science,[1] "Really and Truly" and Dan Dare, among others. His work was distinctive, wearing its design influences on its sleeve, purposefully two-dimensional and frequently using expanses of flat, bold colours. This stood out particularly during the early 1990s, when British comics were leaning ever more towards fully painted art. Hughes, unusually, preferred to be his own letterer, and designed several unusual fonts for this purpose.

Since leaving comics illustration, Hughes has become a successful advertising artist, graphic designer and font designer. He runs his own company, Device, with clients including Virgin Atlantic, Penguin Books, DC Comics, Eurostar the BBC and a range of magazines and newspapers. Hughes prefers to design his own fonts for new projects usually giving them humorous and occasionally rude names. The font Knobcheese was marketed as "[a] typeface in the Swiss (cheese) tradition. With knobs on."

Biography Early career Hughes graduated from London College of Printing and was employed at various advertising agencies where he worked for ID magazine, Smash Hits and Condé Nast. He arrived late at his very first job interview at an advertising agency with a lump of dog excrement stuck to the bottom of his portfolio, managed to transfer some of it on to the white shirt he was wearing and the rest onto the meeting-room table. Directors had to open windows to let the stench out. Despite this, he got the job. At the same time he was drawing his own comics, released as small press minicomics in editions of around 20 copies. Three issues of Zit were published between 1983 and 1984 and through these he got involved with the British small press comics scene of the time based around the Fast Fiction stall Paul Gravett was running at the Westminster Comic Mart in London.

Hughes was a regular contributor to Gravett's Escape from 1983 to 1989 with strips including Norm and The Inheritors. In 1987 his first graphic novel, The Science Service, co-written with John Freeman, was published by Belgian publishers Magic Strip in seven languages. The UK edition was co-published in 1989 by Acme Press in the UK and Eclipse Comics in the US.


 * Science Service ref: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/science-service/4050-55621/

Design and logo design From the mid-1980s through to the present day, Hughes has been involved with design work for a wide range of comics publishers. He is responsible for the distinctive look of the Knockabout Books line of collected underground comics and periodicals from 1985 to 1992. By the early 1990s it seemed like every aspect of the British comics industry had Hughes' stamp on it, from the carrier bags at Forbidden Planet[2] to the logo of Mega City Comics. In 1990 the strip Dare was drawn by Hughes, serialised in Revolver, a magazine he designed, and written about in Speakeasy, a news magazine he'd also redesigned.

At Fleetway he did influential work, designing a new display font for their weekly comic 2000 AD, under the supervision of innovative Art Director Steve Cook. When the adult comic Crisis was launched it featured a radical Hughes design and he continued to spearhead Fleetway's identity with the launch of Revolver[3] and their graphic novels line.

For Titan Books he was given the task of designing books that repackaged American comics for the UK market. Most notable was his work on Love and Rockets, a personal favourite of Hughes. This led to working directly for US publishers.

For DC Comics Hughes has designed numerous logos and covers, initially for the Vertigo imprint where many British creators were working. Here he continued his collaboration with Grant Morrison, creating covers and identity for The Invisibles.[4] Over the last 25 years he has designed numerous graphic novels and comics, including Batman, Batman: The Return, Batman and Robin, Batman Incorporated, the Tangent series of Elseworlds comics, The Multiversity (a sprawling series which includes the titles The Just, Ultra Comics, The Society of Super-Heroes, Pax Americana, Thunderworld Adventures, Mastermen) again with Grant Morrison, Jack Kirby's Fourth World Absolute Editions, Shade, the Changing Man, iCandy, Superman, Batgirl, The Flash, The Atom, Wonder Woman, The Intimates, Howard Chaykin's reboot of Challengers of the Unknown, Animal Man, Milestone Forever, Wednesday Comics, Hellblazer, Enemy Ace, Mister Terrific, the DC Focus series (Fraction, Kinetic, Touch and Hard Time), The Mighty, Gotham Girls, Mystery in Space, Aquaman, Shadowpact, Kid Eternity, Thrillkiller, Green Lantern, Secret Six, Sea Devils, Nightwing, Vibe, Doom Patrol, Human Target, Batwing, The Joker, Resurrection Man, Flex Mentallo, Static Shock, Justice League, Starfire, Infinity Man and the Forever People, Will Eisner's The Spirit, Wildcats 3.0, Dark and Bloody, Bizarro and Bizarro World, Vertigo Pop!, Johnny Double, Last Gang in Town and many others.


 * Refs: Comicsvine (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/rian-hughes/4040-1693/issues-cover/), the credits in the publications themselves, the book "Logo a Gogo" from Korero Press https://www.koreropress.com/logo-a-gogo/

As part of Grant Morrison's The Multiversity, he designed the definitive Map of the Multiverse, DC Comics' overview of all their alternate realities.


 * Refs https://www.cbr.com/dc-unveils-an-interactive-version-of-its-multiverse-map/

For Marvel Comics he has designed logos and trade dress for The X-Men, Wolverine, Captain America, The Fantastic Four, Spiderman, Moon Knight, The New Mutants, Psylocke, Iron Man, Captain Britain, X-Force, Necrosha, Strange Tales, The Marvels Project, Black Panther and more. The Black Panther logo has been developed into a font, "Panther Black"1. In 2006 he updated the Marvel logo, and the new version is now used across both publishing and movies.


 * Refs: Comicsvine (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/rian-hughes/4040-1693/issues-cover/), the credits in the publications themselves, the book "Logo a Gogo" from Korero Press https://www.koreropress.com/logo-a-gogo/

For the 2005 revival of Valiant Comics he redesigned the company logo and trade dress, and the majority of the book's logos including the titles Harbinger, X-O Manowar, Eternal Warrior, Ninjak, Bloodshot, Rai, Ivar Timewalker, War Mother, the 1%, Shadowman, Unity, Archer and Armstrong, Punk Mambo, Doctor Mirage, Eternity, Harbinger Wars, Armor Hunters, Britannia and others.

For Image he has designed logos and trade dress for Outcast, Mythic, Bitch Planet, Manifest Destiny, I Hate Fairyland, NYC Mech, Nameless, November and others.

For other independent and creator-owned publishers he has designed logos for Judge Dredd, Solar, Man of the Atom, Magnus Robot Fighter, Turok, Dinosaur Hunter, Gold Key, Rick Random, Insight Comics, Milkfed Criminal Masterminds, Boom! Studios, Mark Millar's Millarworld (Hughes collaborated with Millar on the early 2000AD series "Tales from Beyond Science", collected in one volume by Image), Giant Generator, Archaia and Archaia Black Label and Hungry Eye.

For the Canadian publisher Chapterhouse, he designed or redesigned logos for Captain Canuck, Fallen Suns, Northguard, Freelance, The Pitiful Human Lizard, Agents of Pact, Starrise and Fantomah.

Millarworld ref: https://twitter.com/mrmarkmillar/status/1391855475063468035
 * Refs: Credits in the comics themselves, and again Comicsvine as before.

Other notable early design work for the comics industry includes the 1986 MTV Europe Awards booklet Outbreaks of Violets, possibly the rarest Alan Moore title, late-era issues of Deadline where he worked on the entire magazine on a minimal budget in three days.


 * Outbreaks of Violets ref, with eBay screen grab: https://www.loustal.nl/museum1191.htm
 * Deadline: credits in actual magazine

Hughes has completed artwork for Ultravox's "Return to Eden" reunion live album, Oxford based rock group The Winchell Riots, designing the vinyl and CD sleeves for their 'Red Square EP', The Animalhouse, Mark Doyle's influential club and label Hed Kandi, A Silent Film, Automatic Records, Transient Records, Tokyo Disco, Convex, Mute, The Lipstick Melodies, Lucy Skye, Metropolitan Music, Magicdrive, Manowar and many others.


 * Ultravox ref: http://www.ultravox.org.uk/article-20110526-rianhughes.shtml
 * Winchell Riots ref: http://www.aaamusic.co.uk/2011/05/23/the-winchell-riots-and-figure-8s-ep/
 * Other music design credits at Discogs: https://www.discogs.com/artist/1537191-Rian-Hughes

The book "Logo a Gogo", published in 2017 by Korero Press, collects the bulk of his logo designs, and includes roughs and alternative ideas with commentary by the author. It was nominated for two prestigious Eisner Awards.


 * Eisner Awards ref: https://www.comic-con.org/awards/2020-eisner-awards-nominations
 * Publisher announces nomination: https://www.koreropress.com/logo-a-gogo/

Hughes' discovery of the Mac in 1993 pushed his illustration work in a more stylised graphic direction. Adopting first Freehand than Adobe Illustrator, he used expanses of flat colour and texture in asymmetric and dynamic layouts, his characters became more elegant and exaggerated, and the type, generally custom designed for each illustration, became an integral part of his imagemaking process. This very influential flat vector style has been dubbed "Sans Ligne" in reference to the European "Ligne Claire" school by artist Will Kane. Though enabled by the Macintosh, Hughes' considers his combination of design, illustration and typography to be a return to the working methods of the poster artists of the early 20th century, a period when artists like the Stenberg Brothers, Cassandre and Jean Carlu combined type, image and layout to achieve a dynamic, integrated whole.

Hughes illustration work includes title sequences for The Box, poster designs for Tokyo fashion company Jun Co.'s Yellow Boots chain, the animated on-board safety film for Virgin Atlantic, Eurostar's poster campaign, a collection of Hawaiian shirts, a range for Swatch and the BBC's CD edition of Philip Pullman's His Dark Materials trilogy.


 * Ref: https://www.logolounge.com/articles/rian-hughes
 * "Art, Commercial, Die Gestalten Verlag, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Device-Rian-Hughes/dp/3931126862

He has worked extensively as an editorial illustrator for UK, US and Japanese magazines and newspapers including The Guardian, the New York Times, The Face magazine, PC Format magazine, Cosmopolitan, Maxim, Radio Times, The Telegraph, Stuff magazine, SFX magazine, FHM magazine, Mac User, and others.


 * See works shown at rianhughes.com.

He has worked on campaigns for advertising agencies including Lowe Howard Spink, Mother, St, Luke's, Young and Rubicam, McCann Ericsson, J. Walter Thompson, Publicis, Fitch and others, and completed illustration and design work for London Transport, Cartoon Network, the BBC (collaborating with Grant Morrison again on digital strip "the Key"), Hasbro, Psygnosis, Nickelodeon, cover design and illustration for book publishers Walker Books, Pan Macmillan, Headline Publishing, Fiell, Reed Children's Books, Picador, Penguin Books, and others.


 * The Key ref: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-26784218
 * List of clients taken from Rian Hughes' website. Credits for book design are given in the books themselves (not online).

In 2007 he collaborated with ex Spice Girl Geri Halliwell on a series of six children's books, Ugenia Lavender.


 * Ref: https://www.panmacmillan.com/authors/rian-hughes/ugenia-lavender/9780230737471

Widely copied, the influence of Hughes' illustration style can be seen in advertising, on covers for mass-market women's paperbacks, children's books and editorial illustrations worldwide. He notes in an interview: "I knew this style had reached peak when I fielded a phone call: 'Can you draw like Rian Hughes? We're after someone who can draw like Rian Hughes.' When I said I was Rian Hughes, they promptly hung up. The copyists were now more employable than I was".


 * Ref: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bi4yhsliFLA

A monograph, "Art, Commercial", was published in 2002 by German art publisher Die Gelstalten Verlag, and collects much of his illustration work up to that point in time.
 * "Art, Commercial, Die Gestalten Verlag, https://www.amazon.co.uk/Device-Rian-Hughes/dp/3931126862

He has documented the London burlesque scene in sketches and illustrations drawn from life in his book "Soho Dives, Soho Divas", published by Image. [2]


 * Ref: https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/robert-bradley/soho-dives-soho-divas-rian-hughes-review_b_4132362.html

Though he now produces little comics, he continues to draw covers for books, graphic novels and comic book series such as Doctor Who, Lavie Tidhar's Adler, The Prisoner, Ben Aaronovitch and Andrew Cartmell's Rivers of London and Blade Runner 2029.


 * Ref: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/adler-3/4000-794882/
 * https://www.midtowncomics.com/product/1460252
 * https://forbiddenplanet.com/258774-the-prisoner-volume-1-uncertainty-machine-forbidden-planet-hughes-signed-edition/
 * https://www.amazon.co.uk/Rivers-London-Black-Mould-5-ebook/dp/B01NCAGD2X
 * https://www.previewsworld.com/Catalog/DEC201696

In 2017, Top Shelf published "I Am A Number", a silent all-ages graphic novel satirising the modern obsession with social ranking and hierarchies. [3] His unpublished children's series "The Loud Crowd" was optioned and an animated pilot made, but so far it has not been broadcast.


 * Refs: https://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalog/i-am-a-number/965
 * https://www.brokenfrontier.com/nemo-jamie-hewlett-rian-hughes-top-shelf-idw/

Type design

Selection of fonts designed by Hughes and released through his Device foundry Hughes' has described typography as "the particle physics of design". Hughes' interest in letterforms began at an unusually young age thanks to a Letraset catalogue his architect father had lying about the studio. At 15 he visited Letraset, where he saw Rubylith being used for the first time to create type.

This is the technique he used in the early days of his career when producing custom type for his design work. Early fonts like FF CrashBangWallop and FF Revolver (originally designed for Speakeasy and Revolver magazine respectively) were digitisations of fonts originally done in this old-fashioned method of Rubylith on board.


 * Ref: Introduction to "Art, Commercial" monograph

His first fonts were released back in 1992 as part of the FontFont range, while subsequent designs have been released via his own foundry, Device Fonts.[5]


 * Ref FontFont: https://www.fontshop.com/designers/rian-hughes
 * Ref Device Fonts: https://www.devicefonts.co.uk/catalogue

Many of Hughes' fonts were created for specific design commissions, and their names reflect their application or the circumstances of their conception. The chunky no-nonsense Judgement family was commissioned for 2000 AD, home of Judge Dredd. Metropol Noir, which was created specifically for the BDA Gold Award winning 1996 MTV Europe Music Awards programme is named after the Paris hotel Hughes was put up in for the event. Shard was commissioned for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

A retrospective catalogue "Ten Year Itch" was published in 2005 and features all Hughes' type designs up to that point.


 * Ref: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Device-Fonts-Year-Itch-1995-2005/dp/0955137616

He has continued to add to the range on a regular basis, usually releasing a 'collection' every year or so. The name of the collection is retroactively chosen to reflect the themes or styles of the new fonts released during the given period.

The most popular Device fonts are currently available as part of Adobe Creative Cloud, making them available at no extra cost to everyone who has a subscription to Photoshop, Indesign, Illustrator and the other Adobe apps, and are also available via Hughes' own website, devicefonts.co.uk [4] and also through I Love Typography [5], MyFonts and Monotype's Mosaic service.


 * Ref Adobe Fonts: https://fonts.adobe.com/designers/rian-hughes
 * Ref I Love Typography: https://fonts.ilovetypography.com/search?q=Rian+Hughes

Hughes' most popular fonts include Korolev, based on signs seen in a photograph of a 1937 Red Square Parade taken by Alexander Rodchenko and named after Sergey Pavlovich Korolev, the lead Soviet rocket engineer throughout the Cold War. Korolev has been used extensively on book covers, British Athletics' 'Represent' campaign, the Broadway show 'Quiz', and for film titles, for example The Courier starring Benedict Cumberbatch, and Michael Moore's Trumpland. Paralucent, a sans in nine weights with italics and an accompanying condensed, has been used extensively in magazine design, including Heat, Build, Sugar, Wheels and Loaded. Other best-selling designs include Urbane, Serenity, Gravesend Sans (based on the typeface used for the pre-nationalisation Southern Railway, Faculty, Ministry (derived from the all-capitals Ministry of Transport signage typeface that preceded Jock Kinnear and Margaret Calvert's Transport Alphabet), Cynosure and Aurore Grotesque. The recently updated 'Typodiscography' catalogue features extensive character sets, sample settings and articles about the genesis of may of Hughes' fonts. [6]


 * Ref - all are discussed in interviews and with samples in "Typodiscography: The complete Device Fonts collection : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Typodiscography-Rian-Hughes/dp/1910870048

Bibliography Comics Zit (three issues, self-published, 1983-4) The Inheritors (Modern Era Editions, 1988) The Science Service (script by John Freeman) (ACME/Eclipse, 1989, ISBN 0-913035-86-6) Dare (written by Grant Morrison, a revisionist sequel to Dan Dare) "Dare" (Revolver #1–7, 1990) "Dare" (in Crisis #55–56, 1991) Tales from Beyond Science (tpb, 88 pages, Image Comics, January 2012, ISBN 1-60706-471-5): "The Men in Red" (with Mark Millar, in 2000 AD No. 774, 1992) "The Music Man" (with Alan McKenzie, in 2000 AD No. 775, 1992) "Long Distance Calls" (with Mark Millar, in 2000 AD No. 776, 1992) "Agents of Mu-Mu" (with Alan McKenzie, in 2000 AD No. 777, 1992) "The Eyes of Edwin Spendlove" (with John Smith, in 2000 AD No. 778, 1992) "Secrets of the Organism" (with John Smith, in 2000 AD No. 779, 1992) "The Secret Month Under the Stairs" (with Mark Millar, in 2000 AD Winter Special No. 4, 1992) "The Man Who Created Space" (with Mark Millar, in 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special, 1994) "Really & Truly" (written by Grant Morrison, in 2000 AD #842–849, 1993) Robo-Hunter (with Peter Hogan): "Slade Runner" (in 2000 AD 1994 Yearbook, 1993) "Winnegan's Fake" (in 2000 AD #852–854, 1993) "Metrobolis" (in 2000 AD #904–911, 1994) "War of the Noses" (in 2000 AD #1023, 1996) Collections Dare (a collection of the series scripted by Grant Morrison, published 1991) Yesterday's Tomorrows (a collection of work scripted by Grant Morrison, John Freeman, Tom De Haven and Chris Reynolds and consisting mainly of previously-published work) (paperback, 280 pages, Image Comics, 2010) Illustrations by Ugenia Lavender (written by Geri Halliwell), six volumes hardback/paperback, 68 pages, Macmillan, 2009) Novels XX (Macmillan, 2020) The Black Locomotive (Pan Macmillan, 2021) Nonfiction works written and/or designed by Really Good Logos, Explained (with Margo Chase, Ron Miriello, Alex White) (limpback, 250 pages, Rotovision, 2009) Cult-ure: Ideas can be Dangerous (hardback, 320 pages, Fiell, 2010) Hardware: The Definitive SF Works of Chris Foss (hardback, 280 pages, Titan Books, 2011) Custom Lettering of the 20s and 30s (flexi, 576 pages, Korero Press, 2016) Custom Lettering of the 40s and 50s (flexi, 580 pages, Fiell, 2010) Custom Lettering of the 60s and 70s (flexi, 580 pages, Fiell, 2010) On The Line (with Rick Wright) (hardback, 48 pages, Image Comics, 2010) Lifestyle Illustration of the 60s (limpback, 520 pages, Fiell, 2010) Logo-a-gogo: Branding Pop Culture, Korero Press, 2018 Ten Year Itch (an overview of his typeface design) Device, 2004 "Art, Commercial" (a monograph documenting his illustration, logo design and design work) Die Gestalten Verlag, 2002 Notes ^ Truitt, Brian (19 September 2011). "Artist revisits 'Tales from Beyond Science' in new book". USA Today. Retrieved 24 November 2011. ^ Logo-a-gogo. Korero Press. 2018. p. 499. ISBN 9780993337420. ^ Logo-a-gogo. Korero Press. 2018. p. 277. ISBN 9780993337420. ^ Irvine, Alex (2008). "The Invisibles". In Dougall, Alastair (ed.). The Vertigo Encyclopedia. New York: Dorling Kindersley. pp. 92–97. ISBN 978-0-7566-4122-1. OCLC 213309015. ^ "Device-fonts". References Interview at Korero Press Interview at the Forbidden Planet International site Hughes, Rian (2002) "Device: Art, Commercial". Die Gestalten Verlag, Berlin ISBN 3-931126-86-2 Rian Hughes at Barney Rian Hughes at the Grand Comics Database Rian Hughes at the Comic Book DB (archived from the original)


 * The above version of the Bibliography is not the latest, which I can't find - in the latest version the books were put in chronological order, and books only illustrated by Hughes were separated from those written, written and drawn, or edited and designed by Hughes, and missing books (for example, 'Get Mapmaking!', 'I Am A Number' etc added.

In addition, broken links in the last "references" section were deleted, and more recent interviews added (for example the Forbidden Planet podcast, the "Broken Memories" podcast and the Strand Books podcast. Again, I can't find that version, so will need to redo this part, I guess once the rest has been (I hope) approved).

Thanks for your time, and I hope this improves matters. Any questions, just ask.

New reply from ScienceService, November 25
Hello - any help on this appreciated. Journalists are copying and pasting material from this article, most recently for a newspaper piece last week, even though it's out of date, has factual inaccuracies, and features little recent information. I keep having to email them to correct things. If there's anything I can do to expedite matters - provide more references, etc - do let me know. Just trying to do a good job and have an accurate Wiki entry, which currently it is not. Many thanks.

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