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Halberstadt CL.IV
Hi Scoop100 - I just noted this addition by you and your interest in WWI types. There are a few other Halberstadt aircraft on the list of missing aircraft (and lots of other WWI types too for that matter!). Maybe you'd like to help filling in some of the gaps? Cheers --Rlandmann 21:26, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Missing aircraft
Hi again - sorry about that - I didn't mean to just revert you without comment - I was about to drop you a note, but dinner beckoned! I mainly added them back for (as you deduced) a reminder that these aircraft really aren't properly covered; the Nieuports in particular are a real shame to see all lumped together like that... When I reverted, I hadn't actually noticed that you'd already created the redirects. If someone else comes along and removes them from the list, it's OK - I've got the original master list which I'm checking to look for stubs to expand (etc). Thanks for taking an interest! The more people we have working on this, the sooner it will get done, obviously, and I think that Wikipedia is on the brink of becoming the most comprehensive encyclopedia of aircraft ever published in English. :) --Rlandmann 10:17, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

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WWI Aviation
Hello. Nice to see there are other people interested in this topic. I will try to work on some German pilots and later also on the aircrafts. At the moment my referencing library is not yet expanded enough to deal with any aircrafts other than the D VII. Maybe we can cooperate at some point. Best regards --Panth 20:07, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi.Thanks for your note. I will at first also try to improve some of the existing german aces pages. I do also own some primary sources in german language and try to find more at reasonable cost at the moment as well as secondary literature mostly in english. If you need translations feel free to ask me

I am also able to read this old german Fraktur font. If you have questions on photos i would advise to visit aerodrome forum if you are not already active there. www.theaerodrome.com/forum --Panth 11:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Hello Scoop. German Copyright protects Photos until 70 years after the death of the author. This makes it easier in our case. When we use photos of 1914-1918 we can be almost sure that author in most of the cases is passed away. Since of many photos we will not know who was the Author or when he died.

Nevertheless there was a case in Germany in 2004 where a woman was sued because she wanted to use a photo of a submarine photo taken in WWII and the lawcourt decided it is still under protection although the regular copyright duration was expired but it was still under copyright under Italian law. And since a new European Union law act it was still protected. But im pretty sure if we ask the webmaster or an admin at aerodrome they will allow us to use or tell us where to ask. Best Regards --Panth 20:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Hello Scoop thats nice to hear. I will try to add some more to the Rudolph Berthold page where i inserted a box. Yesterday i received my Jagdgeschwader Nr II - Geschwader Berthold in the mailbox. Its from Osprey and authored by Greg VanWyngarden. He is also active in the aerodrome forums like some other renowned book authors on wwi aviation. --Panth 12:02, 8 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey Scoop. Was very busy the last weeks. My cousin from Switzerland was visiting. I read a lot material about Ernst Udet in that time. Will have a check of that page. I saw various gaps, and opportunities to improvement at first glance. Also will have a look on the Berthold page again since im finished reading the Osprey book. After that i will take a look on the shifted aces page and see what i can add :) PS: You have any material on 57th squadron? im currently collecting some literature about it due to a research project. regards --Panth 10:35, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

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New bios
Hi, Scoop,

In all my rookie innocence, I have been creating bios of WWI aces, mostly German. I was unaware you were also doing so. I still lack the skills to dub in images. If you would care to do so on my raw new articles, it would be a good thing. I admire the photo of Elwyn King that you posted.

If a bit of judicious editing should also occur, it would serve the common good.

I could also note where potential illustrations are, if you should so wish.

Georgejdorner (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2008 (UTC) --- Scoop,

Would you care for info on photos/illustrations other than on www.theaerodrome.com?

I keep running across pix that I consider better than those on www.theaerodrome.com. In some cases, they are candid rather than posed; in others, they have better resolution.

Georgejdorner (talk) 01:50, 22 October 2008 (UTC) -- Scoop,

It pains me to hear that the aerodrome is being difficult about copyright issues regarding photos. Still, if the photos must disappear from the articles I am creating, then they must.

I read elsewhere that German copyright only extends 70 years, so photos from the WWI era are now common domain. I could refer you to those that I run across, if you are interested.

As for non-German photos, let me know. I'll oblige you with URLs to locate any photos that you wish to be troubled with.

Also, is there any particular breed of ace you prefer to write upon? Trevor MacInnis is interested in Canadians, so I've been leaving them to him since I became aware of his interest. I could extend the same courtesy to you if you have a particular interest.

Georgejdorner (talk) 22:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Canadair Sabre
Copyedit for my "talk" page: Hi Bzuk. Thanks for sorting out the mess - what'd I do? - I couldn't seem to sort it out, even though I seemed to have lost half the article. Novices, eh? Scoop100 15:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Hi Scoop; no problem. Simple edit error: instead of the former means nothing added after the "mark". (You will have to read the edit to actually see what the error was in the text.) FWIW |:¬) Bzuk 15:53, 16 July 2007 (UTC).

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Hi scoop, Merry Christmas to you. I thought i take a look at the aces list after a long time. Not much seemed to have changed. I just edited umlauts for the german names and erased a link in the table, it had messed up the sort by name function. Check for the discussion on the talk please. Cheers --Panth (talk) 19:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I didnt do much either, but i started now to build up an article about Eduard Ritter von Schleich since i read his bio lately. My book shelve is also constantly growing but time for reading isnt :) His father Eduard Schleich "the older" was a known painter maybe i add that also in this context. --Panth (talk) 23:54, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

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WWI Aces list modifications
Hi Scoop! Have a look list by nationality talk Greetings --Panth (talk) 12:06, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

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War of 1812 articles
I notice that you have applied the tag to just about every article on the actions of the War of 1812. You may well be correct, but wouldn't it be nicer to actually do some work to improve the articles, or perhaps put some recommendations in the talk sections of the articles, rather than publicly denigrating the efforts of the contributors? HLGallon (talk) 17:59, 19 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Please accept my apologies for the above remarks. I was evidently confusing you with some other poster. You are quite correct; most of the articles do lack citations. I may take a break from editing War of 1812 articles. There are two flag-waving posters in particular who are making it difficult to do and are consistently causing my sense of humour and proportion to fail. HLGallon (talk) 18:41, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

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No footnotes
There is really no point in adding this large and ugly template to these older artist biographies, which are mostly entirely from the 1911 EB anyway. Johnbod (talk) 19:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not saying the tag is wrong, but there are 100s of artist biographies like that, as virtually all those in a position to add refs know, & it is not likely to produce action by itself. And it is rather large. Johnbod (talk) 20:54, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. PS I notice you don't use edit summaries; these are a good thing. Johnbod (talk) 02:41, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

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Image permission problem with Image:Chris draper.jpg
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 * Understood you have now sent the permission as required we just need to wait for it to work its way through the system. Might be useful to leave a message on the image page explaining what you have done. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 21:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

But wait! It's not as simple as that. Theaerodrome (or any other entity) can only give permission to use photographs that it actually owns. This permission would only be meaningful if the owner of theaerodrome.com actually took this photograph himself, purchased the rights to the photograph outright from the photographer, or perhaps inherited the rights from the estate of the photographer.

By way of analogy, I can't agree to release the rights to this photo of a kitten because I didn't take it and I don't own it. Even if I were to upload the photo onto a website that I do own or control, that wouldn't change and I still couldn't make such an agreement.

I've removed the PD-old tag from the photo, since there's no evidence (nor possibility!) that the photographer of a photo taken in 1917 has been dead for 100 years yet (do the maths!). The copyright status of most photos depends upon the date of the photographer's death; the date the photo was taken is almost always irrelevant (exceptions include photos taken in Australia, Canada, and Japan before certain dates).

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But in any event, permission from theaerodrome.com is completely irrelevant one way or the other. --Rlandmann (talk) 23:56, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I've found this same problem on a whole batch of photos you've recently uploaded. I'm really very sorry about this - I know that it's not a nice feeling to have your hard work undone; but Wikipedia has a legal and ethical responsibility to treat other people's copyright with respect.


 * I know you feel like you've discovered a gold mine over at theaerodrome; but sadly, most of these photos probably still actually belong to somebody. It's not inconceivable that some will still be in copyright for decades to come (consider a hypothetical British photographer who snapped one of these pictures when 20 years old in 1917. If he died at the age of 75 in 1972, the photo will enter the public domain on 1 January 2043... If he lived to be 90, it'll be 1 January 2058!) --Rlandmann (talk) 00:20, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

No problem at all; I can assure you that my understanding of the issues involved in copyrights on Wikipedia was also learned "the hard way"! I'm still occasionally getting notices on my talk page about work I did on images long ago. As for the removals; the wheels are already turning, so don't worry about that either.

German and British copyright is the same in this respect; 70 years PMA (Post mortem auctoris=after the author's death). This means that the same concerns apply to German images. And while I agree with Panth that "we can be almost sure that author in most of the cases is passed away", we certainly can't be sure that they have passed away more than 70 years ago (see my hypothetical examples above), which is the relevant point here. For the sake of comparison, the length of protection for "orphan" images in some jurisdictions is 150 years from the creation date, to be absolutely sure that the author is long dead.

When you say that "WP extends beyond German Copyright jurisdiction" - what this actually means gets a little more complicated still! Wikipedia can publish images that are out of copyright in the United States, which is where the English-language Wikipedia servers are located. This is why we have the PD-US tag. Under certain circumstances, en.wiki can publish photos that (for example) de.wiki hosted in Germany can't. Photos that are out of protection in the United States but not necessarily elsewhere in the world include any that were published anywhere in the world prior to 1923. So, for example, a photo of a WWI flying ace that was published in a contemporary British newspaper or magazine may still be under copyright in the UK (because the author hasn't been dead for 70 years yet), but not in the US (which doesn't recognise that copyright), and en.wiki could use it. However, we couldn't upload that image to Commons, because those images need to be free everywhere in the world.

As you can imagine, this kind of issue stretches far beyond Wikipedia. Perhaps the most notorious international copyright tangle is the one over [|what countries Peter Pan is still protected in], and obviosuly the big money connected with that question. It's only going to get worse as many cultural icons start to enter the public domain in certain countries over the next few years (the Beatles' albums, starting in 2013 - sound recordings are only protected for 50 years after publication in the UK). --Rlandmann (talk) 21:12, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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Section headings
Hi. Per WP:HEAD, section headings are not capitalized (apart from the first word and any proper nouns, of course). --John (talk) 18:14, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Hi. Thanks for advising the correct use of Caps. in Article Headings, which I'll certainly bear in mind now. I guess it was the incorrect use of caps. in the headings which I put into the 'Flying Aces' List that led to you deleting them.  Another editor seems to have put them back in and you've removed them again. For myself, I'm going to stay out of that.  I would have thought just getting the headings into the right WP format would have been OK - to me, at present, without them it looks just a solid mass of text (which I think needs editing anyway).  I had thought it could do with breaking up - just my opinion. Scoop100 (talk) 20:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks, that's a fair point. I may replace them without the caps, or else you may if you like. I thought they were a little clumsy, quite apart from the capitalization issue. --John (talk) 20:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * OK - lets leave as it stands now then. Maybe I'll come back to it one day and have a go at improving (hopefully) the whole bit.  As an introduction to a List, it seems not to be ideal, IMO. Regards. Scoop100 (talk) 20:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, I agree. Nice talking to you, and let me know if I can ever help you with anything else. --John (talk) 20:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Splitting up the World War I Aces list
(Being an attempt to have our cake, eat it also, and maybe get a little extra icing.)

Site at present is 644 names loading as 96 kilobytes, with the present cutoff point being 10 or more victories (with a few listings for lower scores). This is approximately a third of the total 1861 World War I aces. It becomes apparent that Trevor MacInnis’s concept of listing all the aces in a single table is impossible, as site size will burgeon to about 250 KB. I have halted expansion of the list and previously discussed this with him, and he suggested breaking out the list by nationalities, or by listing them alphabetically by last name. (Details on my talk page.)

I believe the list as constituted has a very real value. Scanning it gives an idea of the contribution of each nation’s fighter pilots. It also gives an idea of the relative strengths or weaknesses of the air services of the various nations. Other concepts, such as the contributions of the Commonwealth to Britain’s cause, also become apparent. I believe some version of the present list should be preserved, even if it is presently large enough to be slow loading on dialup connections and on older servers. However, I do think the list could be trimmed to a shorter, quicker loading version than the present one without damaging its value. I also believe the complete listing envisioned by Trevor is of historic value. We are on the brink of becoming the most complete archive extant on this subject; www.theaerodrome.com is presently pre-eminent, in my estimation.

I have been mulling this over for some time (obviously), and fiddling with figures. Here is what I have come up with thus far.

If the cutoff point is 20 victories or more, and the list is truncated, then the various nationalities of aces are represented thus:

Nationality			Aces listed/total aces

Australia			8 aces out of 75 total

Austria-Hungary		       4/49

Belgium				1/6

Canada				24/192

England				34/595

France				14/182

Germany			       74/393

Ireland				2/33

Italy				5/45

New Zealand			2/13

Russia				1/15

Scotland			6/67

South Africa			7/46

USA				2/123

Wales				3/23

It can be seen that all the nationalities that had fighter aces are represented. Most list between 10% and 20% of their aces as scoring 20 or more victories. Those that don’t show the weakness of their air effort—the Russian and Austro-Hungarian air forces were mal-organized and the Americans were latecomers. The other exception, the English, still have a large listing.

At any rate, the 187 aces that scored 20 or more victories would thus comprise a list of about 28 KB.

If the entire list of 1861 aces was also broken down into separate national lists by the above nationalities, they would also be small, easily loadable pages with two possible exceptions: England and Germany.

England, with 595 aces, comprises a complete list near the size of the one we now have. However, without the Country column with its graphics, I intuit the site size would be tolerable. (Your opinion on this would be most welcome; you are probably more knowledgeable than I on this.)

Germany is a lesser version of the same problem, with 393 aces.

Consider it an unsolicited staff study with recommendations for a solution. In other words, there may be some more improving ideas out there.

With an eye toward this, I am also submitting this to others on my talk page who have expressed interest: Milborne1, Protonk, Panth, and Canglesea. You may wish to send it to others you may think interested.

Georgejdorner (talk) 23:41, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

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Scoop,

Many thanks for your response. If you can tip this greenhorn off on a way to see the old list(s), it would be appreciated.

You did not seem to have a reaction to my proposal to keep a combined list down to the 20 victory level. What I wish to avoid is a simple breakdown of the list solely into nationalities and/or air services. I think it would be a tragic loss of meaning to sacrifice the present list in its entirety. At the same time, I do not think it would suffer from curtailment of the lesser lights, and I am not opposed to the other methods of splitting the list so long as they are in addition to keeping some version of the present list.

I do not see why wikilinks can't stem from any list. Albert Ball can be on the master list as a high scoring ace, as well as on a list of British aces, and on a list of WWI aces whose names begin with 'B', and all three lists can and should link to his biography.

Your point about notability is coming true. As I have worked my way downwards toward the 20 victory level, it has become more difficult to find information about the lower scoring aces. (See John Inglis Gilmour for an example; there are several others.) Trevor MacInnis may be correct that all aces have notability, but he misses the fact they may not all have documentation.

I floated my little study out because I lack the technical expertise to split the lists. At some point, this list will be split; by Wikipedia's own size standard, it must be split. If it is extended, it will become increasingly unwieldy. However, if it is split ONLY into 26 alpha lists, or into nationality/air services, the world's knowledge will be diminished. I wish to avoid that.

I predict the present list will be extended into such unwieldiness that action will be taken. I just want it to be the best action possible.

I hope that you sent the same response to the administrator(s) that you sent to me.

Georgejdorner (talk) 04:02, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

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Scoop,

So far yours is the only reply. If you wish, I will keep you apprised of any other replies I receive.

I'm not conflating lack of documentation with notability, nor do I have a position on the notability of all aces. I'm also not saying 20 victories is the magic number for cutting off the current list, but it sure does work nicely.

One thing seems fairly certain to me. If I start adding the additional 1200 names, someone will have to do something to deal with the overwhelming size. Not that I am about to do that anytime soon. There's still lots of work to do on the existing list. About half of my 40 original articles need inline citations, and there is still a sizable number of aces lacking a bio.

Georgejdorner (talk) 01:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

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HELP!! DATA LOSS!
I saved an edit for the 14 - 19 victory section of List of World War I flying aces and the entire section disappeared. Much diligent work up the flue into never-never land.

Is it retrievable?

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Willi Rosenstein
Take a look at the article's talk page. I think I have thwarted their over-hasty tags.

Yes, Rosenstein is notable. He was honored by his government with an Iron Cross. I have used this provision in the past to defeat AFD proposals; I will use it again here if I have to.

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Been avoiding doing anything on Willi...only got a few hundred other choices for next bio of WWI ace, ya know. Howsoever, if I should happen to run into some data/info on him while in pursuit of some other set of facts, I will add them on the page. Other than that, it's your article. I wish you acuity of mind and clarity of expression as you do it.

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G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2020 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2020. Thanks from the outgoing coord team, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 05:18, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

Nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject Newcomer and Historian of the Year awards now open
G'day all, the nominations for the 2020 Military history WikiProject newcomer and Historian of the Year are open, all editors are encouraged to nominate candidates for the awards before until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2020, after which voting will occur for 14 days. There is not much time left to nominate worthy recipients, so get to it! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 06:45, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Voting for "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" closing
G'day all, voting for the WikiProject Military history "Military Historian of the Year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" is about to close, so if you haven't already, click on the links and have your say before 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 23:35, 28 December 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive
Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive and create a worklist at WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:26, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:59, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nomination period closing soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are still open, but not for long. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! No further nominations will be accepted after that time. Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:43, 10 September 2021 (UTC)

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced
Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Appropriate questions for the candidates can also be asked. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 04:40, 15 September 2021 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting period closing soon
Hey y'all, voting for the 2021 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche will be closing soon. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2021. Voting will be conducted at the 2021 tranche page itself. Thanks, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:33, 26 September 2021 (UTC)

Help me!
Please help me with... Dinghy Young: am I OK to change the article title to 'Henry Melvin Young' from 'Dinghy Young', on the basis that 'Dinghy' was a nickname. I guess then (if that turned out to be OK), there'd be a re-direct needed from the Dinghy Young page? Scoop100 (talk) 18:28, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * If he is commonly known as Dinghy, then it is at the proper location. You might want to start a move request to find out the consensus on the best name. If you want more help, change the help me-helped back into a help me, stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 08:34, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

The WikiEagle - January 2022
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations opening soon
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are opening in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 1 September). A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting opening soon!
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election opens in a few hours (00:01 UTC on 15 September) and will last through 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 22:27, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Correction to previous election announcement
Just a quick correction to the prior message about the 2022 MILHIST coordinator election! I didn't proofread the message well enough and left out a link to the election page itself in this message. The voting will occur here; sorry about the need for a second message and the inadvertent omission from the prior one. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:42, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election voting closing soon
Voting for the upcoming project coordinator election closes soon, at 23:59 on 28 September. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. Voting is conducted using simple approval voting and questions for the candidates are welcome. The voting itself is occurring here If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 20:14, 26 September 2022 (UTC)

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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election have opened. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next coordination year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting will commence on 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the current coord team. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)