User talk:ScottDavis/Archive 1

Welcome
--Slowking Man 06:32, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
 * Welcome to Wikipedia Scott Davis, your help with South Australian articles is much needed and appreciated. Have you considered participatng in WikiProject Adelaide? --Cyberjunkie 07:02, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Hi Cyberjunkie. I've looked at the WikiProject Adelaide, but hadn't worked out what commitment is required - what does being a wikiproject participant mean? Also, do I just nominate myself, or is there an acceptance process? --ScottDavis 12:12, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * As a relatively new user of Wikipedia, I am still brushing up on Wikiquette myself, and might not be able to give you a completely factual answer. However, as far as I am aware, there is no acceptance procedure in becoming a WikiProject Adelaide participant. I believe that by listing yourself as a member, you are primarily stating your devotion to articles concerning Adelaide at large, and thus, the commitment required is that which you set for yourself. The WikiProject Adelaide page serves as a reference point and place of collaboration. As I understand it, it is not an exclusive club, but rather symbolic of your interests. You don't have to be a participant to edit Adelaide-related articles, but perhaps by listing yourself as one, you can be helped in that pursuit. --Cyberjunkie 03:31, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Lake names
Hi and welcome! For lake names, especially the famous ones like Lake Albert, we don't usually add a qualifier like ", Africa" - it's like London or Paris. If there were additional obscure Lake Alberts, then they would be "Lake Albert (Utah)" or some such. So I moved it back. Also, redirs to redirs don't work - when you move a page, look at the "what links here" and fix all redirs listed to point to the article at its new name. Stan 06:57, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Stan, I've created a short article for Lake Albert, South Australia, and thought I'd made a disambiguation page for Lake Albert Referring to them both. I was in the process of finding the links that pointed to the original Lake albert and fixing them to point to Lake Albert, Africa. I guess I should stop that now.--ScottDavis 07:04, 2005 Jan 9 (UTC)

i've added a disambiguation to the lake albert page on the african one. Xtra 10:04, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Thankyou --ScottDavis 10:28, 2005 Jan 9 (UTC)

in future, where there is a common name with an international place, and they have already taken the name, either add a disambig link to that page, or if there are numerous places of the same name, make a separate disambig page and leave the name of the page intact. cheers. Xtra 10:35, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
 * Article nomenclature in the presence of ambiguity is a whole big metatopic in Wikipedia; dig down under Naming conventions and its subpages to find all kinds of debate. For instance, one could argue that the South Australian lake is more notable, because how many people have actually been to the African Lake Albert? Not as many I'll bet. But the African one plays a significant role in history, and if you did a worldwide poll "where is Lake Albert?", the answers (other than "I don't know") would be 99% "in Africa" and 1% "which one do you mean?". One way we use to approximate such a poll is to examine the results of a Google search on the term, although it's not totally reliable (Google skews towards people who make webpages :-) ). Stan 15:07, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)


 * I'm satisfied with Xtra's solution, and will attempt to emulate it should the same problem arise again. I've also learned some more about world geography. It's interesting to observe the differing skew in Google vs Yahoo searches though (discounting Wikipedia hits). Google skews quite strongly to the African lake on the top of the list. Yahoo much less so. The first 10 hits on Yahoo included three for Uganda, and two each for South Australia and New South Wales. The next page evened it to 3 all, and added one each for Alaska and Ontario (as well as two for Albert Park Lake in Victoria). Google's only sponsored link was for Lake Albert, New South Wales. Both search engines also found a painter called Albert Lake as well.--ScottDavis 01:43, 2005 Jan 10 (UTC)

Basements and cellars
Thanks for the info. Here in TX (where we rarely have any space beneath our houses and thus don't know what we're talking about) we use the terms interchangeably. I did live in a house with a basement once, but sadly, it could have doubled as a swimming pool. Joyous 12:03, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)

subpages
I'm wondering if you can tell me how to add subpages to my user page. I see you've done it with User:ScottDavis/Murray crossings. I've searched the tutorials and have found nothing. Thanks Cnwb 23:36, 28 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Drought
Because the previous version was 1000% better. RickK 20:24, Mar 31, 2005 (UTC)

Sorry about that - I was cleaning up after the mess those two left, and accidentally reverted one of her self-reverts. Ambi 00:59, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Port Augusta
Yes, I acted a bit hastily there - I was under the impression that most place articles don't include the county/state/country unless necessary for disambiguation purposes - I only noticed the rest of the Australian placenames after I did the move. Initially, I was going to merge in City of Port Augusta as well, but then I realised that they're not referring to the same thing, so I just kind of fizzled out :/ Feel free to move it back to Port Augusta, South Australia. sjorford &rarr;&bull;&larr; 14:31, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Hawker
Hi Scott. Nothing major over at Hawker. I just found the disambig heading separators a little loud I guess. I've gone ahead and done the required janitorial work myself. No harm done. -- Longhair | Talk 15:53, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)

C C Kingston
Thanks for your comment. Perhaps you could find a better photo of him which is in the public domain. (Are you going to do an article on Lake Caddibarrawirracanna, Australia's longest place name?) Adam 00:45, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
 * If I see a photo, I'll grab it, but biographies aren't usually my thing. Do you think it would improve simply with cropping? Is that the best resolution available of the source?
 * I don't need to write the article, the Lake Cadibarrawirracanna (one 'd') article has been there for over two years! --ScottDavis 14:07, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

John Downer
Sorry, I assumed he was an actor, movie seemed like a weird occupation :) I wouldn't worry about the disambig, there are 3 John Downers involved in film (none are especially famous), if one of them does get made at some point ther author can do the disambig.--nixie 14:54, 6 May 2005 (UTC)

Goolwa
Sorry, you're quite right. The main problem is that the article was pretty much a series of unconnected one-sentence paragraphs, making it look like a page of notes rather than an article. I've gone back to it and made a start (moving and combining text, adding a category), but I think that the text still needs to be fleshed out with a bit more detail for it to read well. Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 12:37, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * Ah, I've just hit an edit conflict with you; I tried to merge our two edits &mdash; I'm pretty sure that I haven't missed anything, but could you double check? It seems to me that the article looks much better, now &mdash; perhaps it could even lose the "stub". Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 12:41, 15 May 2005 (UTC)


 * My pleasure. It's a pity there's no photo or other illustration; I'll do a search when I get time. Mel Etitis  ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 12:57, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Doh! Why didn't I spot the duplication when I added the category? Mel Etitis ( &Mu;&epsilon;&lambda; &Epsilon;&tau;&eta;&tau;&eta;&sigmaf; ) 14:59, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

User:Humanbot update 04 June 2005
Since you entered the mailing list while the project was down, I assume that you wanted to be told when it was up. Well, it's up. Note that it is generally unreliable at the moment and if it doesn't work now you should check back in a few hours. r3m0t talk 12:22, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)

No Problem
Thanks for the thanks for the maps in the goyder's line article. Any time you need anything, just contact me via the talk page. Ytgy111 10:02, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:Humanbot update 08 June 2005
Version two-two released today includes in that green box a nice count of how many articles are left. This more or less co-incides with the event of hitting only 1000 articles remaining. Also, I have re-arranged the User:Humanbot page to make it easier to get to the right stuff. Progress charts, wikicookies, wikilove and a more thorough spelling check is promised when this is completed. (and also when the exam pressure eases off a little on me) r3m0t talk 17:41, Jun 8, 2005 (UTC) Note: If you think this message was too trivial for a mailing, tell me and I'll stick to more important announcements on the list.

Thanks!
Thanks for your great expansion on the Rundle Mall Article and the pictures. You did a great job. Taylor 04:19, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the acknowledgement. The photos came from Cyberjunkie. I just added them to the article. --ScottDavis 08:23, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Use of AU-politician-stub
You learn something every day here at Wikipedia. Thanks Scott. If there's a plethora of changes I need to undo, let me know thanks. -- Longhair | Talk 09:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * My thinking was more along the lines of, rather than lump them all into biographical stub categories, they're more likely to be found and updated grouped in with the politicians. My knowledge of local politics isn't up to the standards of most political contributors here, but I try to help where I can, even if it's dotting i's and crossing t's. :) -- Longhair | Talk 09:59, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Australian wine regions
I'm popular tonight aren't I? ;) Hehe. I once lived in Merbein, Victoria for a very short time. Just down the road was a large Wolff Blass winery, and right behind it, acres and acres of wine growing grape vines. I categorised the entire area as a wine region until a proper article on the subject arrives. Again, it's a topic I'm lacking knowledge in. Wine and I just don't agree. :) - Longhair | Talk 10:17, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I never realised wine regions were as fierce with politics. Sounds like it could be a touchy subject if the wine growers ever get on board around here. Thanks for the informative updates. -- Longhair | Talk 10:48, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

User:Humanbot update 13 June 2005
The spelling2 project (to work on secondary namespaces) was opened and finished. Progress charts will be available soon.

Version six-three tracks who made the edits, and rankings are available. Much of the work was done while I was asleep, explaining my low place ;).

The next project, which may even be released today, will probably fix incorrectly capitalised headings, particularly "See Also" and "External Links".

The mailing list has grown to 24 people and while that is very nice for my ego, it is rather difficult to send out updates. This is why I did not send out a notice that the spelling2 project had opened. From now on, then, you must watch User:Humanbot/announce for updates. r3m0t talk 12:03, Jun 13, 2005 (UTC)

Caribbean stubs
Scott - do you mind if I help populate your stub list? Guettarda 15:47, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it's a needed cat. I mentioned the idea of a Caribbean-bio-stub to before.  I'm glad you started this.  Guettarda 02:27, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * You should also talk to User:CaribDigita - his focus is much more broadly Caribbean than mine. I'm a lot more biased towards Trinidad and Tobago articles.  Guettarda 03:00, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
 * Looking at the distribution of stubs, do you think a separate bio-stub might be warranted? (Wow, I've never seen my watch list come to life like that!)  Guettarda 12:58, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Images
Thanks for pointing out your gallery, I've used one of the senic shots of the Barossa Valley. --nixie 05:16, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Categories at WikiProject Adelaide
Hey ScottDavis! Since we now have an outline of the South Australia category (thanks for adding that), do you think we should have a complete category skeleton, that is, a full outline of South Australia with Adelaide and its daughters off-shooting? Such an outline would better show editors which category to use. Conversely, it could also be horribly confusing and perhaps beyond the scope of the Project. Thoughts? -- Cyberjunkie   TALK  04:28, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * I didn't display the full category hierarchy, just the ones I thought would be useful. I think I'm inclined to leave it as it is, partly beacuse it's simpler, and partly because it is the Adelaide wikiproject, with SA interests tacked on. --ScottDavis 05:12, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for correcting my error
I made an error at Pacific Patrol Boat Program in converting 2500 nautical miles to 370 km. You corrected this to 4625 km. I was converting a lot of instances of 200 nautical miles (common sea boundary) to 370 km. For some reason that instance got caught up with it. I have no idea why I made such a simple error, but I am glad that you corrected it. Thanks. Keep up the good work. Bobblewik (talk) 4 July 2005 22:21 (UTC)


 * I have double checked the conversion by putting 2500 nautical miles into Google and pressing the 'Search' button. It reports that the conversion is 4630 km, not 4625 km. I have updated the value in the article. Thanks again. Bobblewik (talk) 4 July 2005 22:24 (UTC)

George Ferguson Bowen
Thanks for putting my nose to the grindstone. I have put a parenthetical reference into the main article. One may hope that this will give the reader a more balanced view of the topic. Too Old July 5, 2005 02:54 (UTC)

Humanbot
Thank you for fixing a spelling mistake in MANOVA. I would just like to say that it should have been upper case instead of lowercase, as it was at the beginning of sentence. I fixed it, and it does not matter much. The only reason I let you know is in case that is a more general bug of the humanbot. So, if it was a rather unique human mistake rather than a computer program mistake, I can rest assured.

You can reply here (to keep the talk in one place). Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov 5 July 2005 03:29 (UTC)

Oops. Thankyou. The script warns that it's not good with capitals, and usually we notice and do it right. Sorry for missing one, and thankyou for fixing it. --ScottDavis 5 July 2005 09:19 (UTC)

I just reverted the Narrambi Road link as it seems to have been agreed that Philip J. Rayment was right, and that that was the correct spelling. I know there's a bit of a mess of links and the other pages that was never resolved, but I wasn't in the mood to do it right then - I know it needs sorting. Ambi 12:26, 13 July 2005 (UTC)

RE: Stub templates
Just to let you know- I am in fact part of WP:WSS, so I know all about the extra templates, but since the page has been redesigned I find it a great pain to use them. Don't get me wrong, I love stubbing articles and back in the day I enjoyed sorting them as well. It just is more feasible one way for me, now. Apologies. Mr Bound 16:28, July 13, 2005 (UTC)

possible duplicate articles
Despite the differences in distance estimates I'm going to say that they are one park and that Gammon Ranges National Park is a duplicate, because on the DEH website there is only one park with Gammon in the name that I can see and that's Vulkathunha-Gammon Ranges National Park. I'll take the website's info over what might have been a rough estimate on the wikipedia Gammon Ranges page. Diceman 16:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)

C. J. Dennis
Thanks for the help there... I don't actually know that much about him, but noticed the gap and thought that I could at least put *something* there. Looks like you have a bit more local knowledge than I do :) --Skud 02:15, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks again
I noticed what you fixed with my Golden Grove Village article, thanks for fixing up my bad links etc. Thanks again :) Taylor 10:02, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Split edits
Hi Scott, I can't think of a way that it would be possible for me to move those edits between articles. It really shouldn't matter since they still exist -somewhere-. --nixie 13:10, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

It could sort of be done if the page was moved to the new name, reverted to the old article and then moved to the other aricle- thus duplicating the edit history on the two new pages. Other than that there is no easy way to shift/or assign edits between articles. The wiki could be smarter ;) --nixie 13:36, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks
Thank you for your vote of support on my recent RfA. I was quite surprised by the amount of support I received, and wish to extend my thanks to you for taking the time to support my nomination for adminship. -- Longhair | Talk 12:13, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

Re: GGV
I thought about your message and I'm thinking that we might as well merge it anyway. However, with this merge it needs to be more than "The Golden Grove Village is an adequate place to shop." If anyone doesn't like it then they can just revert it. Taylor

Completed! I merged the article with the GGSA article, change it to a better style if you wish. Click here Taylor

Re: Wang Kon
To be honest, I don't know. I just made it from a request, with the information I could find online, so that if anyone who knows about Korean history came along, they would have more incentive to give their Knowledge. "Wang Kon" seems to get more Google hits, so I suggest leaving it there until someone with said knowledge comes along. Sonic Mew | talk to me 22:12, August 7, 2005 (UTC)

Australia
Could you comment on Jiongs edits on the talk page, I think he/she is trying to insert and anti-immigration POV without data that actually supports the claim. I read the productivity comissions findings, and they're not what Jiong is tyring to represent.--nixie 02:09, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

My RfA
Just a quick note to say thanks for the support on my adminship nomination - you're but one of many Australian editors who make valuable contributions. Hopefully, we'll be able to continue collaborating on worthwhile projects. Cheers and happy editing, Slac speak up!  22:32, 11 August 2005 (UTC)

Nikki Hemming

 * I have rewritten the article in order to establish notability. I would be grateful if you could have a look. Capitalistroadster 05:44, 13 August 2005 (UTC)

Jervis Bay Nuclear Power Plant
Have a look, thought you might be interested. Andrewa 10:12, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

Lake Margaret Tasmania rave
My apologies. The words are obviously part of a ten page rave about having been a west coast tasmanian ( I lived there in the 70's) and the on-going relationship between the community, the hydro, politicians, as well as heritage etc etc. Very un-wiki. Apologies again.

As to lake margaret article. There is a lot more to it, shall have to go off and read and think a bit more before I put it up. vcxlor 15:04, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Adelaide North Tce 1839.jpg
1. I don't have the information on me but it's from Adelaide: A brief History by Kathryn Gergett and Susan Marsden (1996).

2. I believe the perspective is from the corner of North and West Terrace, the church might have been made of wood which would explain its abscence.

table formats for Governor of the Falkland Islands
Hi Zanimum. I see you're changing the borders of the tables in Governor of the Falkland Islands. Do you mind explaining why you also removed the column headings? I think it needs either the column headings, or a – between the two years instead of them being in two columns. --Scott Davis Talk 00:20, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
 * I've returned the headings. I had thought it was just unnecessary code, not actual display headings. --  user:zanimum

Stonehaven
If someone does something as stupid as changing "Stonehaven" to "Baird" all the way through the article, which clearly says he was given his title before he came to Australia, I am under no obligation to pick through all his edits looking for the few which might be valid. Adam 03:30, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

The article is clear about when his name changed. You are of course free to make any edits you like. Adam 04:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry if you have formed that impression. I do get annoyed when people make stupid and ignorant edits to articles which I and other editors have put a lot of work into. I try to draw a distinction between the well-intentioned but ill-informed and the malevolent and partisan, but I don't always get it right. Adam 05:34, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

List of place names
I've just been going through some of the Victorian ones on that list you made, adding mentions to a few disambig pages - I notice the ACT is missing though. Any chance of getting a similar list for that? Ambi 10:38, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I think it might be an idea to start the ACT postcode list again from scratch - I have no idea what the "main postcodes" mean either. A Google search for "main postcodes" "australian capital territory" reveals nothing but Wikipedia results, which isn't very helpful. Would it be difficult to recreate it from the auspost.com.au list? Ambi 12:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks a lot. This ACT list is going to be particularly challenging, as most of the suburbs are named after someone, and many have at least one other place named after them as well (thus they all need seperate disambiguation pages instead of redirects). Ambi 13:08, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
 * I just ran into that with Belconnen - I ended up leaving it as a district, because all the other potential topics (the suburb, the town centre, and a couple of things located there) all came under the district and were mentioned fairly early in that article. I suspect Woden might be a similar situation (if there isn't anything elsewhere named that). I'm also leaving quite a few of these disambiguation pages to cleanup later, as quite a few of them really suck. :) Ambi 14:05, 10 September 2005 (UTC)

Shows and fairs and things
Yes, good question, and an answer for you at my talk page - ciao! Quill 01:04, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

Australian highway edits
I've replied to your question on my talk page. – AxSkov ( ☏ ) 04:16, 20 September 2005 (UTC)

Limited access
Theft? Oh dear, I hope all is well. I look forward to your return :).--Cyberjunkie | Talk 04:31, 22 September 2005 (UTC)