User talk:Scott Dial/Archive 1

Selected Energy Densities Plot
-Dude, that's one gorgeous picture:

-I'd still remove "(excluding oxidizers)" and change it to "selected energy densities" and add the lead acid and li-ion as a comparison, because a picture is worth a thousand words, a lot of people will only look at this image at that page, and not read the page. Everyone needs to know the big issue with batteries. And you need to take teflon out, because it simply isn't a fuel. But still very nice job. I agree, leaving boron off the chart is a good idea.

-I see you're a programmer, so you probably care about programming issues. I get passionate about some things. Forgive me for the following ranting: So wow, you managed to use python without the word "self". Oh that word so aggravates me in python, I keep thinking of the mascot snake slithering "self self self." Yuck. It's such a friggin redundant word, anytime I look at python code I start counting the word "self", and once I see about 20 of them, I simply stop reading the code. Redundant repetition like that is retarded, it annoys me. I keep asking who designed this crap? MS Office VBA has the "With-End With" and. notation to set context and cut the redundancy and to stop wasting your eyemotions on useless characters. I'm still a big classical BASIC fan. I'm lazy, I like things easy. Work smart, not hard. Others who like to sleep on pin needle beds just to show off how macho they can be, or poke needles into their own eyes, or program with perl, java, or other non-basic things, more power to them. Note: I kinda do C because of the speed, when I have to, but perl, java, python, or C++, are neither fast, nor easy. Come on, gimme something for something in a language. If I give up speed, then make it easy. I like it easy. Laziness (sloth) is a virtue. I'm a big lazy BASIC fan. Why change when you have something good enough, if anything improve BASIC and make it better and easier. I love php too, because that too smells like BASIC. Wikipedia runs php. And what you wrote there, in python it smells very BASIC, other than forced indentation rules - my screen used to be not wide enough, and instead of scrolling to the right while reading, I'd break a line into two and "unindent" the next line all the way to the edge as a continuation. Kind of like a paragraph, only the start is indented, anything that goes all the way to the margin belongs to it. That was my own way. But I could live within the indenting rules just fine, as long as the program is a clean, relaxing, easy read, easy on the brain, like a good joke or a good novel. I wish the rest of python was like this, and was faster than C. Somehow python is too object oriented, not raw enough for speed. On the other hand there used to be BASIC versions that were raw, close to the metal, and win32C is pretty much doing object orientation without the speed penalty of C++, as close to the metal as possible. And it's callable from classical VB. Oh, I can't stand java and dotnet, what a load of lard dropped onto the cpu making it suffocate. And what a waster of characters. What I used to write out in about 10-15 characters in a line, now it's 72 characters long. For the same thing. Who got that much brainpower to read through that waste? Perl on the other hand is too cryptic - I get worn out with the deciphering. Only BASIC seems natural. As far as lard goes, even python, though with sometimes beautiful syntax, it feels very lardy. Same with perl, but I don't even bother learning that, because it's both retarded syntax and slow. C has retarded syntax, but it's miles easier than assembler, and approximately the same speed. Speed is very important. Something for something, either ease of use or speed, and as much of both as possible. Python is not better than BASIC in this regard. Sillybilly (talk) 09:16, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

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Selected Energy Densities Plot
Graph looks good, but where did you get the value 11.5 MJ/L for liquid ammonia? I can't find a free energy of formation for liquid ammonia, only gaseous, and if you check out the minimum work for liquefaction (359.1 KJ/kg, from Barron, R.F. "Cryogenic Systems 2nd Ed." Oxford, 1985) and assume that the work is 100% efficient, then you get a value of 13.3 MJ/L (and 19.6 MJ/kg). 171.67.104.73 (talk) 02:52, 27 June 2012 (UTC)Thomas Veltman

Selected Energy Density Plot
This is a lovely plot.

Someone linked to it to indicate the energy found in aluminium which is way up there.

However you have also linked Li-Ion technology with a single uninspiring point that has no business on that plot.

If you want to use an aluminium air fuel cell and a zinc air fuel cell that might be fine if you will compare it to a hydrogen fuel cell and a methane reforming fuel cell. These are all primary cells that consume the fuel by oxidation like your other materials on the list. However you are not likely to use Li-Ion cells as fuel for your fire as they are far more valuable as a secondary rechargeable storage technology.

Please use a different type of point symbol for those items that are not being oxidised as fuel if you want to place them on the same plot. There are countless people who will look at this chart and come to the conclusion that Li-Ion battery technology is the worst of the lot and then have some famous personality say it often enough and loud enough to make it hard to refute later.

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