User talk:Scottandrewhutchins/Archive 1

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Michael Patrick Hearn
Hi SAW: edited your article on MPH, for point of view, but added a verify tag because your article lacks sources. Cheers. V. Joe 00:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to Homeric Question
Please stop characterizing my edits as vandalism. You're free to disagree with my edits, but they are not done in bad faith. --Akhilleus (talk) 16:45, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

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Michael Nyman
Hello. I have been working on the Opera Project, which includes The opera corpus, a list of important opera composers and their major works. Discovering that all Wikipedia references to Nyman's "Man Who..." opera pointed to the page for Sachs's book, where the opera is mentioned briefly but not described in any way, I decided that the opera deserves a page of its own, as do all the operas in the Corpus, and as has been done for lots of operas based on books, plays, poems, etc. You will see that there are currently a lot of red-linked operas in the Corpus. Some of us are working our way through these, creating stubs and/or articles. In preparation for a "Man Who... (opera)" article, I have relinked all WP links to the book that ought to have been linked to the opera, and made other concomitant changes. I hope this explanation will help you to see why I am not very happy with your reversion of my amendment to the Nyman article. --GuillaumeTell 16:51, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Timon / Alcibiades' reconciliation
Hello! Nice to see your edits on Timon of Athens. However, I hope you will consider leaving in the phrase about Alciabiades' reconciliation with Athens. It explains what the bit about the glove is about; otherwise the article is just cryptic. Also, the contrast between Alcibiades' reconciliation, when he was far more wronged than Timon ever was, and Timon's rather nutty bitterness, is instructive ... and perhaps the point of this rather odd play. rewinn 04:33, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Hiya! The box labels are the easy part. In my user page (or that of anyone you want to copy from) just edit the page, then copy the stuff between and  and delete the stuff you don't want. Then add to your collection any individual boxes you like; they're normally something like {User Kleptobox}}. There's an official way to make more ub's but you can create your own on the fly with this formula:   It's good silly fun! Some user boxes of the official sort will add stuff to your watchlist. Enjoy! rewinn 04:44, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

About the glove and reconciliation: when the Senators fail to get Timon to come back to Athens to help deal with Alciabiades (he offers them his last tree with which to hang themselves) they are reduced to haggling with A: " All have not offended: For those that were, it is not square to take On those that are, Revenge ... With those that haue offended, like a Shepheard, Approach the Fold, and cull th' infected forth, But kill not altogether"

With these words, they are asking him for a sign that he will wreak revenge only on those who did him wrong -- suggesting his glove as a sign (I don't know why).

Alcibiades does offer his glove as a sign of (relative) peace; his revenge is not on Athens but on a few individuals who the Senators shall choose themselves (!):

"Then there's my Glove, Defend and open your uncharged Ports, Those Enemies of Timons, and mine owne Whom you your selves shall set out for reproofe, Fall and no more"

.... and pledges that his army will obey Athens' laws (although I don't see whether this includes the objects of his revenge):

"and to attone your feares With my more Noble meaning, not a man Shall passe his quarter, or offend the streame Of Regular Justice in your Citties bounds, But shall be remedied to your publique Lawes At heaviest answer."

This text leads me to think that the bit with the glove is not throwing down the gauntlet, as we think of it, as a sign of challenge, but somehow a sign of accepting the terms of reconciliation. At the end of the play, as in history, Alcibiades returns from Sparta to Athens (...although he later must flee after more shenanigans, but this isn't really an history.) rewinn 04:57, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

Mildred Harris
Mildred Harris indeed played Dorothy Gale in 1914's The Patchwork Girl of Oz. ExRat 20:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Scottandrewhutchins, Thanks for taking the time to write to me about Harris' Oz connection to the Dorothy Gale character. I am rather confused about the whole thing however - I have not seen The Patchwork Girl of Oz, but when researching the article I created for Harris, I did look at a variety of reputable sites that list Harris as making a brief cameo in the film as Dorothy. Most prominently are The New York Times movie section, which states:
 * "Mildred Harris, later the wife of Charlie Chaplin, appears briefly as Dorothy, while future comedy star Harold Lloyd can be briefly spotted as an extra."
 * Also, the AFI Silent Film Catalog lists Harris as playing the role of Dorothy.
 * Although, I did then find this - Scott Hutchins' Oz Filmography (is this you?) which states that Harris didn't appear in the film, neither did the character of Dorothy Gale.
 * I apologize for my lack of knowledge on the film and Harris' role (or lack of) in the cast. I guess it's probable that Harris' involvement has simply become "Hollywood lore". Thanks for the clarification. ExRat 18:14, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Emmet Fox
Your comment about Emment Fox's death is not supported by a citation. Please provide a credible source for your assertion that Fox was murdered and the nature of his assailant, and I will not revert your posting again. Until then, I have set it back to eliminate your unsupported allegation. David Traver 21:16, 17 July 2006 (UTC). Often rumors come from people in positions of authority. I suspect it should be possible to find a printed biography of Fox that would answer the question for you and provide a basis for reliably expanding the article. David Traver 13:53, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

Land of Oz
Is there a Wikipedia article for the Land of Oz theme park in the North Carolina mountains? If not, why not make one? Isn't it defunct now? Badagnani 05:13, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Thanks; I first became aware of the park via the Alan Lomax documentary film about Appalachian music and culture, which features elderly locals complaining about all the pristine land the park was ruining. I guess they got the last laugh in a way, but the land still isn't the way it used to be. Badagnani 17:43, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Political Compass Userbox
How do yo make it display anything but complete neutrality? Scottandrewhutchins 18:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)Scottandrewhutchins
 * It's fixed. If you go to User:Disavian/Userboxes or User:Disavian/Userboxes/Political, you'll see the examples there with the listing. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 06:04, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Bot Complaint
You just made the following statement: ''I don't appreciate having my userboxes altered. That is vandalism. Scottandrewhutchins 18:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)Scottandrewhutchins''

It's not vandalism. There was nothing malicious or deceptive in my changes. I userfied your boxes to comply with WP:GUS. Basically, it kept you from having your userboxes deleted. If you revert my changes, you'll find that the userbox has either been replaced or deleted. WP:GUS, coincidentally, is the solution by Jimbo Wales, the founder and director of wikipedia. Please respond on my talk page. α Chimp laudare  19:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

Signing stuff
I'm not sure what happened, but some signatures of yours look all weird. Do you sign AFD and HD comments with four tildes? - Mgm|(talk) 23:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That's it. The four tildes already add your username, so you don't have to write it behind the tildes again. - Mgm|(talk) 05:44, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

Worm Quartet
I saw that you've done some work on the Dr. Demento article. I thought you may be a better authority than I to speak on the Worm Quartet AfD. PT (s-s-s-s ) 21:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Message copied from the Opera Project
Thank you and welcome to the Opera Project - the most dynamic arts project on WP!

I see you have added Winnie Böwe and Hilary Summers to the 'Can you help?' section. I wonder why you think these two merit articles and listing alongside some very famous artists? - Kleinzach 12:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks. We encourage people to write about little-known singers if they think they are notable or becoming notable, but the 'Can you helps?' section is really for major artists who for some reason or other still don't have articles, so if you don't mind I think we should delete these two names and leave the articles to you. Is that OK? - Kleinzach 13:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

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Oz project
hey there! it seems you've been contributing a lot to the Oz project and that most people who used to contribute are either taking breaks from it or lost interest. Just wanted to say hi and let you know i've joined the project to work on the literary accuracy in plot summaries and character descriptions and to also hlp with some of the horrible navigation were stuck with right now. you seem to have the filmography side covered, so maybe it would be a good idea for you to categorize us appropriately within those wikiprojects as well, ttyl! Zappernapper 22:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Edit in the Charun article
On 3 June 2006, you add this to Charun: "Similar to Charon, he is the Estruscan equivalent, at least in terms of function, and was superceded by him when the Trojans came to Italy."

Specify source. Charun is merely a Greek loan. Trojans never came to Italy; the "Tyrrhenoi" did (aka "Etruscans", not Trojans). (See Herodotus, Histories I.94 for the direct source.) Different peoples with different names. Are you confused? --Glengordon01 09:45, 10 August 2006 (UTC) -- The details may be more inspired by the Aeneid than by history, but Charon is a Greek loan, while Charun is a substantially different figure of similar function that was replaced with the Gree Charon subsequent to Greek influence. The description and vehavior of Charun seem to me different enough to warrant a separate entry, even if my historical facts are wrong. Scottandrewhutchins -- Yes, I understand, but where in the Aeneid? Quote? If you can't justify your claim with a source, give up. --Glengordon01 05:57, 11 August 2006 (UTC) -- I didn't say Charun was mentioned in the Aeneid. I meant the Aeneid says that the Roman figures come to Italy via the Trojans. I don't have access to the source of the claims about horses or the bashing of souls with a hammer, but I believed they are derived from one of two books by Jeff Rovin, either The Fantasy Encyclopedia or The Encyclopedia of Monsters. Please see Wikipedia definitions of vandalism before you accuse me of it again. Scottandrewhutchins 15:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC) -- The Fantasy Encyclopedia and The Encyclopedia of Monsters?? This proves you have low reading standards. If you can't separate "proven fact" from "fantasy" or "science" from "science fiction", you have no business editing. I suggest you follow the link on Wiki vandalism and actually *read* what it says instead of daydreaming about monsters:


 * There are four generally acknowledged types of vandalism: deletion of legitimate information, insertion of nonsense or irrelevant content, addition of unwanted commercial links (spam), and policy violations specific to that wiki.

Yours would be vandalism because of insertion of nonsense. Charun bonking the deceased with a hammer is a clear example of nonsense. Grow up and read labrys if you're truly interested in facts about Charun's "hammer". --Glengordon01 15:43, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
 * It's not insertion of nonsense. It is derived from a published book.  You can disagree if you so choose, but it is not correct to classify it as vanadalism.  Scottandrewhutchins 18:14, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

You have one undocumented claim that Charun wielded a labrys rather than a hammer. I'm so impressed. Rovin said that Charun carries either a hammer or an axe depending on the source. Scottandrewhutchins 18:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC) -- I hardly care whether you're impressed. Stating that the hammer is a labrys or labrys derivative is based on historical facts. Hardly outlandish. Claiming that Charun clubs people with a religious symbol based on the word of a sci-fi writer however proves you're a lunatic and a vandal. "Sourced" doesn't mean "based on just any cockamamey book". --Glengordon01 18:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC) -- Oh, and as for a source. Take a hard lookey at something from Robert S. P. Beekes The Origin of the Etruscans, my neophyte friend:


 * The double axe. On a smaller issue Versnel concludes (p. 299): ‘When this bipennis [‘double axe’], property of ‘Zeus Bakchos’, carried as symbol of sacred power by Lydian kings, is encountered again as the symbol of the royal authority of the Etruscan kings, particularly of the supreme king of the federation of cities, this may be considered an important indication of the Asia Minor origin of the entire underlying ideology, and of the ceremony of investiture in which the bipennis played a part.’


 * These conclusions are of primary importance, as they concern a deeprooted complex of religious views that cannot have been taken over from elsewhere. (p.31-32)

Note he's quoting Versnel who says the same damn thing that I'm trying to get through to you. You could have googled that yourself if you weren't so lazy and prone to fantasy books. And in case you're wondering, Beekes is an important scholar particularly of Indo-European linguistics, not a sci-fi writer. So crawl back to the hole you came from, buddy, or learn how to research for yourself. --Glengordon01 19:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

The quote says nothing about Charun, and you're resorting to personal attacks, which is another violation of Wikipedia policy. Scottandrewhutchins 22:26, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Have you read this book? http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0838750613/sr=8-1/qid=1155422077/ref=sr_1_1/102-3030524-8738536?ie=UTF8 Scottandrewhutchins 22:36, 12 August 2006 (UTC) -- Can't you understand what "academic source" means? Nobody knows who Ronnie H. Terpeling is. Is he a recognized scholar? Never heard of him. Robert S. P. Beekes on the other is a famous linguist and that article that you refuse to read is expounding upon the labrys symbolism, identical to that in the Charun imagery. Can't understand? Too bad. Them's facts.

Claiming that "Charun smashes people's souls with a hammer" is as lunatic as saying "Jesus smashes people's souls with his cross in heaven". If you find that insulting, I equally find your twisted understanding of ancient religions insulting. End of discussion. Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye. Please, get lost. --Glengordon01 23:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC) -- VANDALISM. CONSTANT VANDALISM. Stop editing in your narrow POV into Charun. Your sources are science fiction. Stop it! --Glengordon01 20:29, 13 August 2006 (UTC) --

Moved a comment you left on a userpage
Hi, Scottandrewhutchins - I just wanted to let you know that I moved a comment you left on Glengordon01's userpage to his talk page. He's more likely to see it there (since he'll get a notification of a new message), and it's more in line with wikietiquette. Thanks! - Tapir Terrific 18:11, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Re: your message: No problem! It's an easy mistake to make.  Also, I noticed you put some of my userboxes on your page - cool!  Do you want them to say "this tapir," though, or "this user"?  It's easy to change, and I'd be happy to give you a hand.  - Tapir Terrific 18:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Re: your other message: Yeah, that's what always happens to me when I go to the zoo - most people think they're anteaters (and one baby who was just learning to talk thought they were ducks). Anyway, I'll create some userboxes for you that say "user" instead of "tapir."  - Tapir Terrific 18:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * You've got new and improved userboxes now. - Tapir Terrific 18:36, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

Calamari
You are pompous to characterize my contribution as vandalism and nonsense. More than half of Wikipedia could be considered nonsense by someone! If slang terms like Muffin Tops, Whale Tales and others care included in Wikipedia, what makes this onoe Nonsense. Your deletion of my contribution is more akin to vandalism and suppression of liberty!

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Your edit to Phoenix Theatre
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Your edit to Edward Wagenknecht
Edward Wagenknecht didn't write, heavily or otherwise, about Spike Lee. Your edit was a harmless joke but really doesn't help much in building an encyclopedia. Please heed the warnings already posted on your talk page and try to make more constructive edits. Thanks. Casey Abell 15:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Where exactly in Wagenknecht's works did he write about Spike Lee? If you can provide citations to books or articles by Wagenknecht where he writes about Lee, I'll gladly apologize and restore your comment. Casey Abell 16:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Religion userboxes
You wrote... Since you appear to have taken over the religion user boxes, could you add my Unity Church userbox to your page. Also, the no body mofication one, since the whole beliefs page is gone. I want people t see they exist, since my user page probably isn't seeing much traffic.Scottandrewhutchins 17:27, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I haven't taken over anything. I'm just helping implement WP:GUS.  Feel free to include boxes to any of the directories listed at User:Rfrisbie/Userboxes. Rfrisbietalk 17:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Charun, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. -- More vandalism on the French wikipedia perchance? Are you the illusive and conveniently anonymous "Discussion Utilisateur:24.168.35.44" by chance? Seems kinda coincidental that an edit war is starting in two languages on the same obscure topic of Charun. On the same dumb issue too. Odder still is how this IP can be traced to a server located in Herndon, VA... an American server, right by you. But far be it from me to connect the dots. --Glengordon01 18:27, 25 August 2006 (UTC) -- Another IP address: 66.9.70.2... concidentally from the United States. Either there is a rash of generous Americans contributing to the French Wikipedia lately on the topic of Charun, or more likely, a single American with a mediochre understanding of French and an unhealthy obsession for sexy people named Glen :) is trying to bug me personally. Please, if you're going to join the French Wikipedia, do it nicely and with respect for cultures other than your own. --Glengordon01 22:57, 25 August 2006 (UTC) --
 * Your characterization of my edits as "vandalism" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Vanth vandalism
Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits, such as those you made to Vanth, are considered vandalism. If you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the hard work of others. Thanks. Glengordon01 01:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

You undermine your image and cause when you introduce sourceless nonsense of your own (the silly stuff is in bold):


 * She "assisted ill people on their deathbeds and inhaled good demons"

--Glengordon01 01:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Your characterization of my edits as "nonsense" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Gremlins
I've explained several times in edit summaries why I've removed them, and yet you persist, which is beginning to be disruptive and essentially vandalism. Your source does not back up the Gremlins connection, except for a message board, which does not qualify as a reliable source. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 21:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing. However, unconstructive edits are considered vandalism, and if you continue in this manner you may be blocked from editing without further warning. Please stop, and consider improving rather than damaging the work of others. Thank you. CanadianCaesar Et tu, Brute? 22:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

If you reinsert again you will be blocked. --Doc 22:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
 * 1) Do not add nonsense to wikipedia.
 * 2) Do not continue to revert (see WP:3RR)
 * 3) If you've got a reason for your additions, explain it ont he talk page of the article.


 * Your characterization of my edits as "nonsense" is an out-and-out lie. --Scottandrewhutchins 22:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

OK, maybe they aren't. Sorry, bad choice of words. I don't know, and I don't case about the details. But on wikipedia we discuss such things and we try to convince others - we don't just keep reverting to our prefered version. You were warned. I'm blocking you for 24 hours per WP:3RR. --Doc 22:26, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Start again
OK, your edits are not vandalism, although it maybe that they aren't good. I'm not getting involved in the content of the article. I'm going to reduce your WP:3RR block from 24 to 2 hours. When it expires, feel free to continuer discussion on the talk page. But do not reinsert the material, unless you can convince other editors of your case. Make your suggestions on the talk page, ask for comments, and wait until some new voices give their views. Abide by the consensus of the discussion. OK. --Doc 23:09, 2 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Why am I still blocked? 2 hours has proven to be more than 12 thus far. --Scottandrewhutchins 11:37, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * I did reduce your account block to 2 hours, however you have tried to edit while blocked, and that has tripped at 24 hour autoblocker on your IP. I have now removed it. Please assume good faith. In reply to your e-mail, he reason I didn't respond to your e-mail sooner was not because I am ' a liar' but because I was asleep during the night. THanks. --Doc 12:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)


 * PS, if you call anyone else a liar, I will block you again. We assume good faith - consider that those you disagree with miht just be wrong, in error, mistake, or hold a different opinion to you. Thanks. --Doc 12:20, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

The Survival of St. Joan
Hi, I noticed your name as the creator of this article and would like your advice: at the featured list Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc this is classified as an opera rather than as popular music. "Rock opera" is a broad term: would you call this closer to Verdi or Elton John? High culture and popular music appear under different sections on the list. Would appreciate your expert opinion. Durova 08:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

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Requests for comment/Glengordon01
I've started a request for comment that you may want to participate in. Regards, Durova 01:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Concern
User:Glengordon01 brought this to my attention:. I have already asked you twice at Talk:Charun to interact in a more polite manner and am very disappointed to see that you posted this so recently. This works against the spirit of dispute resolution and if it continues you may find yourself the subject of a user conduct RfC or an administrative block. Durova 23:45, 15 September 2006 (UTC)


 * Would you refactor your comment at the talk page on the RFC? I agree there's nothing abnormal about 50 edits in a day when you're preparing an article for GA nomination.  This RFC isn't about your behavior so you don't have to respond to his accusations.  I responded only because he questioned my qualification for opening the RFC.  Your comment that User:Glengordon01 might be mentally unbalanced looks more likely to provoke further hostility than to resolve the problem.  Durova  17:51, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Petty ego-boosting on others' talk pages
I've reverted your ego from my talk page. If I could block you from it, I definitely would in a heartbeat:
 * http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Glengordon01&diff=77319911&oldid=77257978

You: Avid interest in children's toys and hollywood films Me: Avid 15-year interest in comparative linguistics, studying the Etruscan language for a couple of years.

Who knows better about Etruscan civilization? This is not your forté. Your arrogance knows no bounds. A person who is deluded enough to believe that they can string along out-of-context quotes and yet have a grasp of a subject in a matter of weeks is not worth talking to. It fools Wikipedia; it doesn't fool me. So I doubt your capacity to discuss Charun on a higher level, with a level of maturity necessary to treat the subject fairly.

Others have noticed your article is heavily POV and rightly tacked "citations needed" on almost every ludicrous sentence of yours in this article.

But you honestly think that referencing the article to death with sci-fi authors is going to make it any less POV.

Improvements on the page? Oh yes. Here is your wonderful list of references that remain on the article:

Alice K. Turner: Author of the pornographic trash hit Playboy book of science fiction. Good call. Your level of research is impeccable.

Jeff Rovin: Author of 500 Hilarious Jokes for Kids. Quoting authors of children's materials shows a high level of sophistication on your part. We're all proud of you.

But... do you quote real Etruscanologists like Massimo Pallottino or Larissa Bonfante. Nope, because that would smash all of your amateur idées fixes on the subject you plague.

So what still don't you understand? I've been ever so clear, Scotty. --Glengordon01 07:50, 23 September 2006 (UTC) -- PS, while Wikipedia may not get it, you for one prove that original research can be done by cherrypicking out-of-context quotes from authors. This is precisely what your tactic has been.

So when you quote a professional like Nancy de Grummond who knows the subject better than any of your other has-been sci-fi authors, you quote her only as an afterthought on minor things. Clever ploy but not sensible research. --Glengordon01 07:57, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

It's hardly an afterthought when she is the principal source. You're still dmeonstrating that you don't understand Wikipedia policy. You also refuse to acknowledge that I've been studying mythology avidly since I was in elementary shcool. You're also continuing to be uncivil. You're still failing to understand that I CAN'T quote the two you cited unless they are talking about Charun, otherwise I violate WP:NOR. If they say something about Charun, I can get the books out of the library and quite them. --Scottandrewhutchins 16:32, 23 September 2006 (UTC) -- You can certainly quote Etruscanologists if you do your homework and look for references. I've told you about Larissa Bonfante whose view I share despite your own violations of WP:Civility. Thankfully, you finally added them. "[...]I've been studying mythology avidly since I was in elementary shcool"... It's spelled "school". --Glengordon01 01:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC) -- I am well aware of the spelling of "school", but I'm not a professional typist and sometimes letters get transposed due to manual, but never mental, errors. --Scottandrewhutchins 10:37, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

Notability fights
Finally! Someone who supports me. I am not familiar enough with how these "requirements" are made even though Wikipedia finds them "contestable". How do we go about changing these requirements?

There's all this going on, but it seems like just a bunch of people shouting at each other and not actally a constructive way to get things done. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Notability In Defense of the Artist 21:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and I was going to say...I saw your addition to The Frogs, but the production team links aren't correct: the playwright has no bio, the composer's bio is about to be deleted, and the director's link goes to a disambig page that doesn't mention her. In Defense of the Artist 06:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

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Your edit to Barry Lyndon
Hello Scottandrewhutchins. I am sorry to bother you but I was wondering if you have a source for your edit about Mr Rosenman and the music for Kubrick's film, Barry Lyndon, that you recently amde. I have had to add the citation needed tag for now. You don't need to respond to me but if you have the source for this info you can either create a footnote, start a reference section just above the external links part of the page, or cite your source on the discussion page for the film. If, before you click on SAVE PAGE, you cite the source in the edit summary line that works too, but it is too late to do that for this edit. I appreciate your edit but if a source isn't cited any wikipedian can come along and remove the entry so please help if you can. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 19:31, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Your edit to George W. Bush
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Probe Ministries
I read your question on the WP:WEASEL talk page, and I would encourage you to read my response here:[]Cbuhl79 15:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your work on Leonard Kastle
You've done an amazing job. I was a student of his and sang in performances of excerpts from two of his operas. I have always een amazed that he is not more widely known and praised. Lisapollison 07:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your comments to me on my Talkpage. Leonard is in fact a Gay man as you may have gathered and he is VERY open about it.  It nearly cost him his job at SUNYA in the 1980s when he was forced to file a very high profile palimony suit against his ex-lover of over 20 years (name escapes me, I recall he was a producer of William F. Buckely's PBS show and produced The Honeymoon Killers).  As I recall, the suit was necessary to disentangle the rights to some of his musical works including a sublime musical called The Birdwatchers. If you were to search the Albany Times Union Newspaper on his name and the word Palimony, the cites would come up.  I personally led a "Sing-In" in the music building to try and save his job. we had about 300 students show up which wasn't ad considering the AIDS hysteria of the times. He was let go briefly but rehired with new administration of his dept. Perhpas not let go so much as simply not scheduled for any classes, I forget.  All that matters is, he was welcomed back with enthusiasm.  The scuttlebutt was that he was despised y the former admins because of his enormous popularity with students and the fact that he held no Phd. Leonard's talent and gentle nature have always won out in the end and seen to it that he is appreciated within his own community.  The City of Albany funded some of his later works and he's now firmly established at SUNYA.  I have his address but sadly, haven't spoken to him in a decade.  I should call him.  He calls me Leeza for some reason!  I would very much like for you to get a copy of the performance recordings of Mother Ann, The excerpts from the Pariahs and the main songs from the Birdwatchers.  I believe based on your observations in the article that you would enjoy them immensely and appreciate their lasting beauty.  Perhaps I can help get copies to you.Lisapollison 10:21, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

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Twyla Tharp
Bienvenidos, Scottandrewhutchins ~ I am dropping by to let you know that I slightly expanded and completely formatted the article on our beloved Twyla Tharp, which I noticed you made considerable additions to. I also added a photograph, and placed all the information in a chronological order that will hopefull help readers with understanding it. If you'd like to take a look, I would more than appreciate it. Thank you! Sincerely, Emmegan 01:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

Your recent edits
For the second time, your attempt to add jingoism to the George W. Bush article has been reverted. Please keep in mind Wikipedia's policies of neutral point of view, no original research and verifiability. Your edit violates all three. We appreciate your other contributions; however, this one could be considered vandalism. -- AuburnPilot talk 01:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I read the article back when you first added it to the George W. Bush article. It is not a matter of whether you or I believe it fits (which incidentally I don't), it's a matter of verifiability pertaining to a WP:BIO. Our interpretation of Bush's actions constitute original research and cannot be included. I apologize if my wording was blunt, but to insert jingoism into the article is really stretching things. I suggest you take the suggestion to the Talk:George W. Bush page before reinserting. Discussion is always beneficial when making controversial edits. -- AuburnPilot talk 01:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

The Tuna Helpers
This was deleted because it did not assert notability. See Notability (music) for guidelines for musicians/bands. Just because something is redlinked does not mean it has to have an article. Thank you, Fang Aili talk 17:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Re: your question, see the link above. --Fang Aili talk 18:46, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

My Pocket Characters
You were right. My error was done in both ignorance and good faith. You have my most sincere apologies. NielsenGW 20:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Wizard of Oz
Hi there, I have recently revisited my childhood and have DL'd all of the Oz books in their entirity to re-read. I've always been a huge fan of these books. :]

I noticed on the project page that you mentioned you're a part of some newsletters and groups who I presume, discuss the books? I would love some information on these groups and their web pages if possible!

Thanks very much in advance, Shaybear♥.

Eva Green - Composer?
Hello, sorry to bother you. If I interpreted the discussion page of the Eva Green article correctly, you included in the article a reference to her being a composer. The article also says that she composed the score to the film The Dreamers. I find this information very interesting and would like to find out more on the subject, but I have not been able to locate another source that mentions it. I am sure that you were correct in including these facts in the article, I am simply at a loss for further information. Therefore, since I would imagine you know where the information came from, it would be a great help if you could tell me where I might find out more about it. It would also be very helpful if you could reply on my talk page so that I know when you have replied. I also have much less entries on my talk page, so your reply will be easier to locate if you put it there. Thank you very much, and I apologize for any bother this may cause you.

Europus 05:28, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks
Okay, thanks anyway. I guess I'll just have to search harder to find out more. Thank you for your time, and have nice day.

Europus 00:51, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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Timon of ___
Thanks for the kind words! ;) I agree that the Timon thing is far from settled, and I would not be surprised if Shakespeare's dabblings in the classics led to a conflation. Jokestress 23:04, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

Documentary film mistake
Why did you insert words like "poop" on the page? That doesn't seem like you. --Scottandrewhutchins 19:44, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Woops. I reverted some edits back to the wrong version. --Jeremy Butler 16:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Oz Template
Hello. I'd like to ask you two questions about Template:Oz. One: do you think the 1933 cartoon, The Wizard of Oz, is worth including there? Two: about that heading, "the feature film adaptations" - I thought a feature film ran 40 minutes or four reels. Clearly, some of the 1910s adaptations don't fit that bill, so might another heading not be more appropriate? Biruitorul 04:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
 * OK, I've made the changes. Biruitorul 05:18, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

User Boxes Format Hint
Hi Scottandrewhutchins (also from Indy),

I stole a technique from someone else which allows you to format User Boxes into perfect columns:

== User Boxes ==

(View source to see "code.")

This might not be important to you, but it reduced the length of my page to be manageable. If you put three vertical bar between the hyphens, then you get three columns. See User:lmcelhiney for an example.

Take care,

Larry

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Artificial Limbs
Hello, I just recently wrote my first complete article on Wikipedia artificial limbs and saw that you had done a large amount of work in other medical areas. Could you take a look at my article and give me some pointers about improving the article and make any changes yourself? Thanks: Nfk17 02:30, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

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Earl Zea
I'm alerting you to the fact that I've nominated the article on Earl Zea for speedy deletion. I can see nothing that makes him notable enough to have an article in the encyclopedia. There are directions on the speedy delete template for you to contest this. AniMate 04:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry the article was deleted before you had a chance to edit it. However, you can go to WP:DRV (deletion review) and list the article for review. If you think the article is worth keeping and is actual encyclopedic content, that's the best way to get it undeleted. Personally, I don't know why you would, as I'm pretty sure he's not notable and the page pretty much existed for the purpose of putting an unbelievable sad and embarrassing incident in his life out there for ridicule. Best of luck. AniMate 22:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

The Earl Zea story is quite notable and deserving of an entry. I was 14 when it happened about 10 blocks from my house, and there was quite a panic induced as the initial report claimed that a burglar had removed his penis.

Etruscan mythology - Your attempts to start wars, interfere with debate and violate WP:LIBEL
Evidence: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Etruscan_mythology&diff=111843351&oldid=111797626

Any personal attacks against me clearly have no bearing on Etruscan mythology. Therefore it does not belong on that page. Using these irrelevancies for your own personal interests is vandalism and violates WP:LIBEL which reads:


 * "It is Wikipedia policy to delete libellous material when it has been identified."

Do not start wars and interfere with the deletion. As a self-described "unproduced playwright", your sense of priorities in life is telling. --Glengordon01 18:59, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Oz
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Elbow Witch
Hi. I see you began the article on Elbow Witch, and the only decent online reference I could find was a Google cache of your mypages site. It looks like your info came from one of William Jone's collected texts? Do you happen to know which one or have a citation for it? Thanks --Miskwito 08:13, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Template:Christianity
Please don't add groups which don't have demonstrable importance when considered in the light of the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (not just the English speaking world over the last 200 years) -- that's how the last big argument on the Template_talk:Christianity page started. I propose the "Nestorian test" -- if they're not more important than Nestorians in the overall global history of Christianity, they probably shouldn't be included.... AnonMoos 21:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Unfortunately, considering that the number of Christians in the world is now about 2 billion, having 2 million adherents doesn't necessarily make a group important enough over the scope of the global Christianity of the last 2,000 years to have a separate link on the Christianity template, when less than 20 individual faith traditions or groups are mentioned there. The relatively small number of current adherents wouldn't necessarily be a stumbling block to inclusion if the group had an unbroken continuous tradition of many centuries' standing, or a broad significant influence on many other Chrsitian groups, or a worldwide presence in a large number of countries in the world, but I'm scanning down the Unity Church article and not seeing that.


 * The real test is, is the Unity Church more important than the Nestorian churches in the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (not just the English speaking world over the last 200 years)? AnonMoos 22:04, 21 March 2007 (UTC)


 * There isn't and can't be any simple numerical cut-off point, but the total number of current adherents is one factor among many which should taken into account -- including a presence in many regions and countries of the world, significant public prominence, general theological influence on other Christian denominations/churches, a continuous tradition dating back many centuries, and/or broad historical significance in the overall history of Christianity over 2,000 years.  On the first three measures, the Unity Church seems to fall significantly short of the JWs, and on the last two it seems to fall significantly short of the Nestorians -- who were the only meaningful Christian presence over large swaths of Asia for many centuries.


 * I'm sure there are many fine upstanding pious individuals among the members of the Unity Church, but when you raise the issue of including it on the Christianity template, you're thereby putting it in direct competition for template space with all Christian groups which have existed over the last 2,000 years, and the main criterion is the group's importance in the global history of Christianity over the last 2,000 years (NOT just the English speaking world over the last 200 years). AnonMoos 21:03, 23 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Dude, I'm sorry, but there isn't any such "right" to be on the Christianity template -- because if there were, then that would open the template up to including hundreds of groups. And the fact that you haven't addressed any of the specific concerns I raised above (other than repeating the 2 million statistic, which isn't enough by itself) doesn't impress me. AnonMoos 03:46, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Don't make false accusations
Please don't make false accusations of vandalism, as you did in your edit notes at List of Monster in My Pocket characters. Spylab 18:22, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

Scott also makes false accusations at Charun in edit notes (see here). Violation of WP:Assume_good_faith, of course. This is becoming a pattern with him. --Glengordon01 04:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * Glengordon01 is a hypocrite. He accused me of vandalism before I ever accused him of vandalism. --Scottandrewhutchins 17:18, 31 March 2007 (UTC)


 * See? Angry, spiteful and always accusatory. Sufficed to say, the IP he accuses me of is in the States closer to himself, but I'm in Canada. Obviously then his accusations are false, vicious and out of control but he never apologizes for his anti-productive behaviour. He needs time-out. Scott's contribs show that he's editing a gazillion articles per day but is intent on interfering with other people's contributions for god-king pleasure rather admitting when he knows less than someone else. Please take time to go to the bathroom, Scott, and find groups offline to balance out your life. There is such a thing as internet addiction and you're a prime candidate. --Glengordon01 21:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

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Monster articles
I honestly have no clue who is supposed to be named what, but you've made an edit history mess of nightmarish proportions with your warring. If you want a page moved, you use the move button up top. You do not create a new page and copy the contents. That destroys the edit history and makes a terrible mess for others to come along and fix. Stop doing it. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Gravitron
If the Gravitron was invented in 1983, how was it featured in a 1959 film? I've never seen the movie, but are you sure it wasn't some other carousel-type thing? Kafziel Talk 20:41, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Ghost hole
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Man-Thing
Hi, and thanks for asking. Hang in there, and I'll explain everything.

I'm actually a bit confused since the reverted version has a whole paragraph about DeMatteis' run, but no matter. I reverted because the previous versions had so many stylistic, edit-guideline and other errors, too many to fix individually. Material belonging under PH was placed in FCB, opinions were introduced ("The final issue justified its end..."), non-notable and subjective trivia was introduced ("in an issue of What If, one of the characters looked something like Man-Thing"), etc. There is a standard introduction that WikiComics Project editors have agreed upon through consensus. Subheads per Wiki guidelines are not capitalized by titles. That last thing in particular is extremely basic. Until an editor reads up more on Wiki guidelines in general and WikiProject Comics guidelines in particular, it's far better generally better to make a series of small editors rather than a whole bunch in a single bulk edit. Editors seeing a whole mess o' stylistic and formatting errors are apt to revert.

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Matango video game
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Keith Dworkin
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The Pit and the Pendulum (1961 film)
I strongly disagree with your moving/renaming the article to "Pit and the Pendulum" without first discussing the issue on the article's talk page. While I can probably guess that your reasoning is the fact the IMDB, All Movie Guide, and MRQE list the movie without the first "The", the vast majority of all reviews/sources/online movie sites/reference materials that I've seen refer to the film as "The Pit and the Pendulum". In all interviews that I've read, Roger Corman, Richard Matheson, and Vincent Price referred to the film as "The Pit and the Pendulum". It is always advertised in that manner. I believe English language Wikipedia articles should utilize a film's most commonly known English-language title. Perhaps adding (AKA Pit and the Pendulum) after the bolded title at the beginning of the article would have been more appropriate. If your argument is that the onscreen title should have precedent over all other sources, I believe you are incorrect. "Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein"'s onscreen title is "Meet Frankenstein", yet almost nobody refers to the film in that manner. "Witchfinder General"'s onscreen title is "Matthew Hopkins - Witchfinder General", but only a fraction of reliable sources use that particular title. I am considering reverting your edit but I would like to be made aware of what your reasons for making the change in the first place were.-Hal Raglan 18:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Could you direct me to the guidelines where it says onscreen titles have precedence over more commonly documented titles for a film? I can't find this.  Guidelines do state (admittedly about foreign language films, but I think this still applies): "Names of articles should be the most commonly used title for the following reasons:   We want to maximize the likelihood of being listed in external search engines, thereby attracting more people to Wikipedia."  I've just checked all of my Roger Corman books and none of them refer to the title as "Pit and the Pendulum".   Not sure why you claim "Abbott and Costello Meet Frankenstein" is not a good example.  The actual credits read Bud Abbott and Lou Costello Meet Frankenstein.  By your logic, that should be the film's "verifiable and consistent" title.  The same with "Matthew Hopkins - Witchfinder General" -- the film's onscreen credit.  I understand what you are saying about all the links working, but I still believe you should have discussed the move/retitling instead of just making the move.  Also, why did you retain (1961 film) to the title?  As far as I can tell, no other film has ever been titled "Pit and the Pendulum".  The (1961 film) qualifier is not needed.-Hal Raglan 22:30, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Show me the "and" on the title screen of Abbott and and Costello Meet Frankenstein. Before, you claimed that the onscreen title was simply Meet Frankenstein, so you are still not being consistent. --Scottandrewhutchins 14:19, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * First, I've never referred to the film as Abbott and and Costello Meet Frankenstein. Second, I am unsure of why you are so confused by such a simple matter.  In many opening film credits, actors routinely have their names "above the title".  In the case of the Abbott and Costello film, Bud Abbot and Lou Costello (the stars) have their name "above the title", which in this case is "Meet Frankenstein" (the onscreen title below the names of the actors).  By your logic, the title of the movie is "Meet Frankenstein".  Writer Stephen Jones agrees with you and lists the film as such in one of his horror film guides.  My other example was "Witchfinder General".  The onscreen title is "Matthew Hopkins - Witchfinder General".  In his book, Nightmare Movies, Kim Newman refers to the movie as "Matthew Hopkins - Witchfinder General".  Yet only these two writers and a few others refer to these movies by their onscreen titles.  Most reference publications refer to Roger Corman's film as "The Pit and the Pendulum".  Yes, some do drop the first "The" but the film's most common title is "The Pit and the Pendulum".  I see no inconsistency in my examples or my reasoning.  I've opened the subject up for debate on the talk page of the article.  Please do not make another drastic change w/out discussing the issue and waiting for consensus.  Thank you.-Hal Raglan 21:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Are you deliberately ignoring my point? Stephen Jones claims that the name of the movie is Meet Frankenstein when no other writer (to my knowledge) refers to the film in that way.  Kim Newman (and a few others) refer to "Witchfinder General" as "Matthew Hopkins - Witchfinder General".  Simply because they argue that those are the onscreen titles does not magically make those the actual titles of the films.  The same is true of Corman's film...the most common title is "The Pit and the Pendulum".  Just because some people, including you, argue otherwise does not make it so. Why are you having such difficulty with this?-Hal Raglan 21:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
 * From the wikipedia film |film guidelines: "Names of articles should be the most commonly used title for the following reasons: We want to maximize the likelihood of being listed in external search engines, thereby attracting more people to Wikipedia."-Hal Raglan 18:06, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

need your help in editing the article about The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (anime)
Hei.. I saw that you have recently helped fix this article (The Wonderful Wizard of Oz (anime)) a bit.. I would really appriciate help fixing up my latest changes to the article.. Have a great day Acidburn24m 20:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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William-Adolphe Bouguereau gallery
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Unity Church
Malcolm Gets in not a member of Unity he has perform at Unity New York and other New Thought Churchs -Religious Science. Oprah does not endorse any faith and attends many different Churchs and Temples. That's a big jump in the article.JGG59 12:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Response to your "asshole" comment
First, I will respond to your unjustified personal attack on my talk page (in which you called me an asshole) with the following template: '''Please stop. If you continue to make personal attacks on other people&#32;as you did at User talk:Spylab, you will be blocked for disruption. Comment on content, not on other contributors or people. Thank you. .''' Second, All I did to Characters of Monster in My Pocket was change the title on March 29, 2007 ("move" means change the title). A Wikipedia administrator later deleted the page at some point (I have no idea when), and that has nothing to do with me. So, who's the asshole now? Spylab 16:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Carole Seuling
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Spring Heeled Jack
Before re-adding more pointless trivia, please read and follow WP:TRIVIA and WP:ENC. Do so and you will see the edit you made here was against the way things are done here. DreamGuy 16:32, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

NYC Meetup
Hello Scott

I enjoyed meeting you as well. It was nice to be reminded of L. Frank Baum, graphic novels, and how these works refuse to be pigeon-holed in one category or another, as if, being a children's book, a Baum work cannot also be fantastic literature or the basis of a comic book. Take care — Gosgood 13:18, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Unity
By definition Christians believe that Jesus is your lord and savior. Unity believes Jesus is a Master Teacher, Jesus the Christ. If you define Christianity as a way of being (life style) then yes we are Christian. Other wise no. August 2007

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Your edit to Sedition Act of 1918
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Unity Page
Hi just leting you know I did add a ref and a link, I am within the guidelines to add informatiom to the page. Being a student of Unity and New thought I do know about the history of Unity and roots in the movement. I did add the link JGG59 August 2007

Unity
I am just curious and would love to discuss New Thought and Christianity. You know and I know that traditional Christians believe "Jesus as lord and savior". If you describe it in the broadest sense of the word it is a life style. I have been a student of Unity and Religious Science for years. I know the Minister will determine what text will be used Buttterworth rarely used the Bible. I have attended for years Unity NY and Rev Paul can not use the Bible at all but a Broadway Show to make a point. I have attended Unity where the Minister will bring in a Taoist Text. I belief when we restrict New Thought we limit ourselfs. That true spirituality is open at the top hence the whole point of the New Thought movement.I love Jesus but I relate to him in the Unity, New Thought concepts not traditional Christian concepts. Knowing Unity, Religious Science and Divine Science are a new movement independent of Christianity or even a extention or expansion of Christian concepts to what I believe Jesus was here to tell us. JGG59

Unity
I guess the point is in the context of the artical is Unitys beginnings which is firmly established in The New Thought movement. Which has taken The Bible away from literalist. The Fillmores started with the Christian Scientist moved in line with Emma Curtis Hopkins Mother of New Thought. You and I know if we were to sit down with traditional Christians we would be talking a foreign language. Religious Science, Divine Science or any of the independent New Thought churchs speak the same and pray the same and have thier origins in The New Thought Movement. In the context of the artical I wanted the origins to be clear. JGG59

Unity
Thanks that sounds more in line with what I wanted to convey. Thank you. JGG59 —Preceding unsigned comment added by JGG59 (talk • contribs) 20:37, August 27, 2007 (UTC)

Unity
I contacted unity customer service what is unity offical name of Unity, Unity Church or Unity School of Christianity. They Stated The offical title is Unity or Unity Church. Also known as Unity School of Christianity would not be a correct lead in. Just letting you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JGG59 (talk • contribs) 05:13, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Related Creatures in Swamp Thing
While I admire the scholarship in the recent expansion of that section, I feel it's bordering into the trivial. It's not always clear if we're talking of influences on or from Swamp Thing. It it's all influences from then that's too many. If it's just a list of related creatures, then it's trivia. The monster from the swamp is a common trope in fiction anyway. The only relevant mentions are: The Heap, Sturgeon's It, and possibly Man-Thing for the coincidence.

The bulk of this information should appear either under Heap or It rather than under Swamp Thing. --Leocomix 14:12, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Template: Universal Horror
The reason I have removed some of the films is that Universal Horror seems to refer to the main Monsters (Frankenstein, Dracula, The Wolf Man etc.) NOT every horror film made by Universal from the twenties to the fifties. --Indie.Bones 12:06, 1 September 2007 (UTC)Indie.Bones

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Facebook claim.
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Coney Island and amusement parks
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 * WNYC! Thanks. I was referring to the info about the places closing. --Tinned Elk 19:24, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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Howard the Duck
You added the part that says the real Howard appeared in Image and Vertigo titles. Which Vertigo title? There is none listed in the lists of appearances. --Leocomix 13:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, Leonard as being the real Howard. I referred to this edit: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Howard_the_Duck&diff=142725206&oldid=142069503 From what you say the answer is Nevada. That must be a cameo appearance as I don't remember it noticing it. Do you remember which issue? --Leocomix 13:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

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List of progressive rock artists
That page was a redirect to List of progressive rock bands and musicians, which was was deleted after this discussion  Citi Cat   ♫ 17:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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New York City Meetup
The agenda for the next meetup includes the formation of a Wikimedia New York City local chapter. Hope to see you there!--Pharos 20:28, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

Michael Medved
Please do not remove legitimate "citation needed" tags. To state that someone is "conservative" is a point of view, and either needs a citation or should be removed. It does not matter what is in the bibliography section. It needs a citation per Wikipedia policy. Thank you. Ward3001 15:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Most overrated film of all time
You know better than to vandalize liike this. . The Parsnip! 18:02, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
 * There's a small discussion going on about this and I've been asked to invite you over. Maybe you'd like to add your comments? The Parsnip! 20:32, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Earl Zea
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Talkpage comment
Hi, I deleted the comment you left at Talk:Jamie Babbit following the talkpage guidelines. The comment didn't have any relevance to improving the article. -- Beloved Freak  11:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Unity
Please do not threaten me and call me a vandal. This an Encyclopedia fair and balanced view points which can include a criticism. I saw the editors comments and he concluded it was about content not vandalism. Unity is not the only source for the article a third party would be valid. You are more like a born again then New Thought. Peace and love.151.202.182.100 03:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Forwarded message
Obviously, this person is confused...but here you go. This is from my talk page. --71.42.142.238 15:10, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey Scottandrewhutchins for what its worth ( I wll try not to mispell anything for you) you win. Allowing others- a third party view is part of the process. It is not either or, but both. To realize and honor Unity's roots in both is my objective. Not to diminish but to enhance the belief systems. New Thought Unity, Religious Science. Divine Science are meant to added on to, (New Thoughts) to continue to grow and expand just like our Minds. Thanks.JGG59 15:05, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I am not Scottandrewhutchins. Suggest you refer your communications to his talk page. --71.42.142.238 15:06, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

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Your HIV/AIDS/CIRCUMCISION additions
Please stop adding misinformation to the aforementioned articles. The source you are citing is a webposting of an AP report of an oral report of a preliminary study that reached no statistically significant results, and which will probably never be printed in a refereed peer-reviewed journal. In short, it is an unreliable source. Furthermore, from your summation of that source, you either do not understand its findings, or are intentionally misrepresenting them. Readdition will merely result in their removal; and if you repeatedly revert, you will be blocked. If you wish to discuss any changes to the articles, do so on their talk page. - Nunh-huh 14:47, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Tagging and running
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3RR
You seem to have reverted to your preferred version of HIV for the third time within 24 hours. You may also have done so on other articles. Please read WP:3RR. A fourth revert within 24 hours will almost certainly result in you being blocked from editing. This is the second time you've been informed of this. Should you have actual points to make about the page's contents, the talk page is the appropriate place for it. Once you have found out that the change you want to make is contested - which you are quite clearly, now, as your change has been removed by more than one user - you should achieve consensus on the talk page before trying to reinsert it. - Nunh-huh 15:55, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I didn't say you had, I said a repetition would. You don't have to revert to identical versions to fall afoul of the 3RR (and in fact, you could be blocked for less than 3 reverts should any given administrator see it that way. You would be well advised to discuss matters on that talk page and cease playing with the articles. - Nunh-huh 16:15, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I would also note that you haven't stopped your misrepresentations (calling a single oral report "studies" is one of the more obvious ones. One thing is not plural.) - Nunh-huh 16:17, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

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Viktor Frankenstein
Actually, the sentence is not mine but I did move it. I removed it from an article on 'Frankenstein's Creature' as they didn't fit there; it was used to justify calling the creature 'Frankenstein'...it doesn't. I didn't have the heart to destroy it as it is somewhat true (probably well researched), however, it shouldn't be in an article about 'Frankenstein's Creature' but 'Viktor Frankenstein', where I moved it. I will leave other members to find citations (hopefully the member who wrote it). King Óðinn The Aesir 12:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

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The Godzilla Template
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox.

Also, please respond on the talk page. There are a certain amount of films that are not connected and related to the Godzilla franchise in any way. — Enter Movie (talk) 00:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Defintion of a vandal
Have a look at Vandalism - the first line is as follows:
 * "Vandalism is any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia."

Conversely a good faith editor, who believes that removing content would be an improvement isn't a vandal. Addhoc (talk) 19:45, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

Second Warning
Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

First of all, you are breaking two of the three main content policies: the verifiability and original research ones. You're adding original research that you can't verify.

"Verifiable" in this context means that readers should be able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source.

If the films are really connected in terms of continuity or crossovers, you should be able to cite a reliable source.

Second of all, all the films you added are irrelevant to the topic of the template. The only connection with the Godzilla films and the other Toho films, like I've said before, is that (1) they're made by Toho and (2) some of those films are made by the same team as the original Godzilla. This does not mean they're still part of the Godzilla franchise.

Finally, your accusations of vandalism to me are absurd. Removing relevant material is vandalism, but deleting irrelevant material is definitely not. What makes Tomei Ningen, Half Human, ESPY, Prophecies of Nostradamus, etc. relevant to the Godzilla franchise anyways?

Thank you, and good night. — Enter Movie (talk) 00:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

AMNH tour
We need to get a preliminary head-count for the AMNH tour happening before the meet-up. If you think you would like to go, please sign up at Meetup/NYC. Thanks! ScienceApologist (talk) 03:04, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Third and Final Warning
This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you vandalize Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing.

Please stop vandalizing the Godzilla template. If you can prove that Tomei Ningen, Half Human, The H-Man, The Secret of the Telegian, The Human Vapor, The Last War, Matango, Dogora, Latitude Zero, Fancy Paradise, Nihon Chinbotsu, Prophecies of Nostradamus, ESPY, Visitor to the Pupil's Center, Blue Christmas, Deathquake, School in the Crosshairs, Daijōbu, My Friend, Sayonara Jupiter, Portrait in Prussian Blue, Nineteen, Tokyo Blackout, Princess from the Moon, Zeiram, Mikadroid: Robokill Beneath Discoclub Layla, Supergirl Reiko, Nostradamus: The Prophecy, GUNHEAD, and Nihon Chinbotsu are connected to the Godzilla franchise in any way (with the exception of that they're made by Toho and that some of the films are made by the same team as the original Godzilla), please explain so in the template talk page. But if you continue to edit and add those films onto the template without verification that "one is incomplete without the other," you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. — Enter Movie (talk) 03:29, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * By what right have you to consider me a vandal by preventing you from removing relevant films? This is a content dispute, not a vandalism, and on what authority do you have to block me any more than I have to block you?  -Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 05:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Uhhhhh. . . . 'cause you have no proof that those films are relevant to the Godzilla franchise. Oh, and I have no authority to block you; that's the administrator's job. — Enter Movie (talk) 18:14, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * As the one who deleted relevant material from the template, you are the only vandal. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 18:17, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey guys, I don't have much opinion on who is right in the content dispute here (altho, if Enter Movie is correct about the lack of connection to the franchise, that sounds pretty convincing to me.) But, please don't toss around accusations of vandalism simply because someone makes an edit you disagree with. See Vandalism for more info. Friday (talk) 18:19, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * Okay, Friday.


 * "As the one who deleted relevant material from the template, you are the only vandal." Again, you have yet to prove that they're relevant. Please read No original research. — Enter Movie (talk) 18:40, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

He is a vandal using his own terms, since he is the first one to accuse me of vandalism. therefore, if anything I have done is vandalism, what he has done must also be considered as such. By Wikipedia standards, neither of us is a vandal, by the standards with which he is judging me, he is the pot calling the kettle black. As I've said, Toho has a catalog listing all of these science fiction films together on a flowchart, and Dogora, Matango, Gohtne, and numerous others have appeared in Godzilla video games and other sorts of memorabilia. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 18:50, 27 December 2007 (UTC)


 * You know what? You're right. Do whatever you want to the template. Neither of us are vandalizing because this is a dispute over an article's content. I'm gonna withdraw the vandalizing warnings. But you're gonna have to discuss the current situation in the talk page to reach a resolution. — Enter Movie (talk) 19:22, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Probe Ministries & notability
I notice you reverted my redirection of this article. Please see further discussion at Talk:Probe Ministries. HrafnTalkStalk 03:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Bump: Unless you state a reason for objecting to this redirection, on the above thread, I will assume that you no longer object, and will restore the redirection. HrafnTalkStalk 21:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Bump(2): Your comment on that thread does not amount to a substantive objection, as there has already been 4-5 months allowed (since the article was tagged for notability) for "somebody" to "add more material". Unless you can come up with a more substantive objection, I intend to restore the redirect. HrafnTalkStalk 05:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

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Mishepishu
I noticed your edit to the Hodag article. Would you consider holding off writing the article until the last week of March? I would like to propose the article for the Did You Know section on the main page for April Fool's day. There's something about a mythic creature that works for that day. Royal broil 15:57, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Indefinite block
I've indefinitely blocked you due to vandalism on Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and Charred penis (which I have speedy-deleted). Since these edits are out of character for you, I suspected that your account was compromised. If that were not the case, please explain what led you to these edits and I'll unblock, but please try to refrain from this type of edits. --Nlu (talk) 04:23, 4 January 2008 (UTC)


 * As I have explained, these edits were not vandalism. Charred penis was added as a redirect to David Reimer because I had to do numerous searches when looking for the person's name that went with the incident, while the Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu edit was a pop culture reference as you can see by reading the page for the show the claim is attributed to.  --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 14:47, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, now that I'm sure that the account wasn't compromised, I've unblocked. I still do not believe that either of the edits was appropriate, however. Please be more careful. --Nlu (talk) 14:53, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Baba Yaga
Please don't add unreferenced trivia into articles. `'Míkka>t 21:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Vote for a post-meetup restaurant
I'm charged with making the reservations for us, so let's make it official. We'll do this via voting and everyone including anonymous voters, sockpuppets, and canvassed supporters is enfranchised. Voting irregularities and election fraud are encouraged as that would be really amusing in this instance. Please vote for whichever restaurant you would like to eat at given the information provided above and your own personal prejudices at Meetup/NYC. The prevailing restaurant will be called first for the reservation. If a reservation cannot be obtained at the winning restaurant, the runner-up restaurant will be called thus making this entire process pointless. Voting ends 24 hours after this timestamp (because I said so). ScienceApologist (talk) 17:19, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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Destiny
Wow. Bitchy.

1) So I didn't read the talk pages. The world isn't ending 2) It's not vandalism, it was an oversight. 3) Make sure you add what I updated in Paul Destine even though it is a small addition otherwise it's a "blind reversion". 4) Although they have reverted, which I don't mind, I did state in the merge at the top they were unrelated to each other. 5) I was the one who originally separated the Destiny's 2 years ago. 6) You seriously didn't need to throw a tantrum. Speaking to someone usually works.

Ta StarSpangledKiwi (talk) 19:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)


 * No worries. When I separated the cosmic entity it was as Destiny (Marvel Comics) before it became a disambiguous page.  Guess it's your destiny to watch the Destiny's :p  Have a good one. StarSpangledKiwi (talk) 20:21, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

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Soft tissue T-rex
Your friend obviously hasn't studied fossilization in great detail. Mineral replacement is a stochastic process not a magical replacement mechanism. In very particular cases, fossilization is incomplete even over millions of years. ScienceApologist (talk) 20:00, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * That's a laugh. Petroleum survives underground for millions of years without turning into stone. Under the right conditions of pressure, temperature, and chemical environment organic material can be preserved for millions of years. In rare cases, it can be preserved to a remarkable level! ScienceApologist (talk) 20:15, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Generally, creationists rely on sources that are not very reliable. That's usually why they find themselves reverted. ScienceApologist (talk) 16:35, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Leonard Kastle
Thanks for catching the typo - that'll teach me to edit while suffering from a blinding migraine! I happened to see an article elsewhere about Menotti and I remembered that he was one of Kastle's teachers at Curtis so I inserted that into the sentence. How an extra y got in there, I'll never know!LiPollis (talk) 15:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

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February 2008
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New mailing list
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Babes in Toyland redlinks
Thanks for adding the producer and director info. Are you planning to start articles for those two names? If not, would you kindly de-redlink them? Thanks! -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:14, 27 February 2008 (UTC)


 * LOL! You can always add the links after the new article(s) are created.  WP:MOS discourages creating redlinks.  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:35, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Novels - 1st Coordinators Election
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Video games notable for negative reception
Hey, I'm trying to re-do the format of the video games notable for negative reception article and remove unsourced games from the list. I understand that L-Zwei might have been committing vandalism in your eyes, but in fact he was moving the page back to a format which appears to have gained consensus for the most part on the talk page. I'm slowly working on adding articles back into the list fully sourced and with references that in particular reference the game as "the worst game ever" -- then I'll start adding in other articles on multiple "worst of" lists and with overall abysmal review scores.

I'm not going to revert back what you reverted, but I feel that you must understand why L-Zwei is getting rather annoyed. These reversions have been occuring back and forth between I am a jedi and many others (I am a jedi however has been participating in discussions, and though I disagree with his views, I respect him for that).

Anyways, I'd ask that you revert that page again, please comment on the talk page of the article. -- Nomader (Talk) 16:03, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

Re: Doctor Fate edit
In regards to this edit, I would ask you to provide that citation, pls. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  17:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
 * As requested over a week ago, the citation needs to be provided. Without it, the information contained in this edit will be removed. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  01:16, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * I am sorry for being unclear, Scott. I meant that the citation needed to be provided in proper format referenced within the article, so that a reader, curious to know the connection can learn what you pointed out. Again, sorry if I was unclear. :) - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  14:25, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Maybe creat an article that discusses the series and link to that. I am simply concerned that your recollection of where it was spelled (or intended) and other way isn't really citable. Without citation, we would be hard-pressed to make the connection. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  16:51, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There isn't a reference to in some DC comics listing site? - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  17:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Since our best info isn't concretely stated, we shouldn't put it in at all. At some point, someone notable will make that connection, and then we can pounce. I think it wouldn't be wiki to include such as of now. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  17:28, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Good job on finding that, Scott. :) Now, if we could find someone at DC who noted the spelling difference, we could cite the variance as well. Oh well. - Arcayne   (cast a spell)  15:31, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Ophélie Gaillard
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 * Nice of you to inform me at 3:58 AM for me to find it deleted at 9:21 AM.:p--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 13:21, 11 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Not quite sure what to make of that comment. Anyway, the article had been tagged for notability issues for 5 months without change. The entire content for 16 months, apart from a link to a website, was "Ophélie Gaillard is a French cellist born June 13, 1974 in Paris." As there was no assertion of notability, I tagged it for speedy deletion (rather than delete it myself) and another admin agreed.  If you think Gaillard is notable, I'll happily undelete so that you can add sourced proof of notability.  Regards, BencherliteTalk 15:42, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

Two notes
Hello First off, please do not blank a page and leave it that way. If you think that a redirect should be deleted, then list it for deletion. Secondly, please consider archiving your talk page. It's presently 195 kb, which is difficult for some browsers to render. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 19:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

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June 2008
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Proposed deletion of T. Harv Eker
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Adding plastic toy figurines to Ancient Near East articles (Alû)
Please read the WP policies on WP:Trivia and WP:Relevance_of_content. You've been around for over two years now, so I assume you know all this. Please stop. Twofistedcoffeedrinker (talk) 12:20, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

Image:MichaelNymanBand.jpg
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Please use the preview button & provide edit summaries
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False claim of Vandalism
Why do you keep reverting my redirect of The Screwfly Solution (Masters of Horror episode) under the claim of vandalism? If you disagree that it fails WP:EPISODE, WP:N, WP:WAF, and WP:PLOT and that it should not have an episode article, fine. Discuss it, but stop false calling the redirect vandalism. It is nothing of the sort. It is the prescribed method for dealing with an episode article that is nothing but a plot summary. -- Collectonian  (talk · contribs) 05:15, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

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Brooklyn Repertory Opera
Hmm... I've looked in the Brooklyn Paper archives and I see notices for upcoming performances, but not reviews; and there do seem to be quite a number of groups of this type, e.g. just opera companies in Brooklyn: Opera Company of Brooklyn, Regina Opera Company, Opera on Tap (Vertical Player Repertory appears not to be a community orchestra, but I'm not sure). I'm not sure how many of these you've heard of. Maybe it would be best if we had a deletion-proof Community orchestras in New York City article (there's a more general local listing here); actually, I notice we don't even have a Community orchestra article yet (analogous to the Community theatre article).--Pharos (talk) 00:39, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Template talk:Michael Nyman
Hi. I've asked about all the red links in this navbox here. I wonder if you could respond? Thanks. -- Klein zach  04:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

User:Scottandrewhutchins/"The Masterwork" Award Winning Fish-Knife
Per your request to undelete the page, I've moved the page to your userspace: User:Scottandrewhutchins/"The Masterwork" Award Winning Fish-Knife. When/if you think the page establishes notability and importance please move the page back to mainspace. Do not do this before you have the page to an acceptable state, as I can't promise it won't be deleted again.

Also a suggestion, when you do move it, consider removing the quotes from the title. The title does not need to have "award winning" in it either. Good luck! ——  nix eagle 18:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, can you please consider archiving your page? Its getting quite long, and this is causing the page to take a while to load. ——  nix eagle 18:17, 3 September 2008 (UTC)

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non-free images and archiving
You can archive by reading WP:ARCHIVE. The instructions are there.

Your problems with fair use stem from the fact you are not adding a fair use rational as requested by the logo template on the image. See the template at Image:ZOOUKCover.jpg. I'm not up to date on what to do with these (I don't upload images let alone non-free images.) ——  nix eagle 20:30, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
 * You added that (the licensing section) after the bot tagged the page. See the diff. That template is what it is looking for. ——  nix eagle 12:53, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

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Please read WP:CIVIL
Calling someone an idiot is not acceptable on WP. The problems with Template:Michael Nyman are caused by the dozens of red links you have added against WP guidelines: Red links should be avoided unless they have a chance of being developed into articles, and even if they do, editors are encourage to write the article first. -- Klein zach  02:12, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the apology, but I don't accept the criticism. You've made a monster of a navbox (with dense coding) so it's not surprising that links get deleted by accident. If you had kept to blue links there would have been no problem. So why not remove the red links yourself rather than leave it to other editors to clean it up and possibly make mistakes?


 * Also note that you are duplicating links between the 'Michael Nyman' and 'Michael Nyman operas' boxes. That will also have to be fixed. -- Klein zach  04:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)


 * See Michael Nyman navbox. -- Klein zach  07:45, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Calling all active WP:NOVELS members
<div align="left" style="background: #ffffff; border: ridge; border-width: 4px; border-color: red; padding: 10px;"> WikiProject Novels Roll Call WikiProject Novels is currently holding a roll call, which we hope to have annually. Your username is listed on the members list, but we are unsure as to which editors are still active within the project. If you still consider yourself an active WP:Novels editor, please add your name back to the Active Members list. Also feel free to join any of our task forces and take a look at the project's Job Centre to get involved!

Next month we will begin the coordinator election selection process. We hope to have more involvement and input this time around! More news will be forthcoming. Thanks, everyone! María ( habla con migo ) 13:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Novels Newsletter - September 2008
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Album infobox
Thanks I appreciate the code, but I wasn't the one trying to fix it initially. Might humbly I suggest that you archive your talk page; it's pretty large. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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Wikis Take Manhattan
WHAT Wikis Take Manhattan is a scavenger hunt and free content photography contest aimed at illustrating Wikipedia and StreetsWiki articles covering sites and street features in Manhattan and across the five boroughs of New York City. The event is based on last year's Wikipedia Takes Manhattan, and has evolved to include StreetsWiki this year as well.

LAST YEAR'S EVENT


 * Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Spring 2008 (a description of the results, and the uploading party)
 * Commons:Wikipedia Takes Manhattan/Gallery (our cool gallery)

WINNINGS? Prizes include a dinner for three with Wikipedia creator Jimmy Wales at Pure Food & Wine, gift certificates to Bicycle Habitiat and the LimeWire Store, and more!

WHEN The hunt will take place Saturday, September 27th from 1:00pm to 6:30pm, followed by prizes and celebration.

WHO All Wikipedians and non-Wikipedians are invited to participate in team of up to three (no special knowledge is required at all, just a digital camera and a love of the city). Bring a friend (or two)!

REGISTER The proper place to register your team is here. It's also perfectly possible to register on the day of when you get there, but it will be slightly easier for us if you register beforehand.

WHERE Participants can begin the hunt from either of two locations: one at Columbia University (at the sundial on college walk) and one at The Open Planning Project's West Village office. Everyone will end at The Open Planning Project:


 * Wikis Take Manhattan page at The Open Planning Project


 * 349 W. 12th St. #3
 * Between Greenwich & Washington Streets
 * By the 14th St./8th Ave. ACE/L stop

FOR UPDATES

Check out:


 * Wikis Take Manhattan main website

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 * Pharos

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The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - October 2008

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Your revert
Thanks for working "behind the screen" to monitor articles and changes! I've a question about your revert of moving List of film noirs to List of film noir, though--could you please explain? Thanks for responding on the article's discussion page. It would be really nice if you could explain reverts directly in the summary field or on the resp. discussion page in the future. Thanks, Ibn Battuta (talk) 23:46, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

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Man-Thing
Hi, Scottandrew. Actually, I'd complimented your edits generally, at Talk:Man-Thing, before adding my own edits, and I was just about to come to this page and compliment you on your PH polishes today. So, my kudos. As to the other edits, WPC MOS draws a bright-line distinction between PH content and FCB content. No biggie. Together, our separate edits improved the Man-Thing PH quite a bit, so I'm glad we had a chance to collaborate! -- Tenebrae (talk) 22:38, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Not sure that I'm following what you wrote in post. All I can say is that all this in-universe "super soldier" material won't have any meaning to non-comics fans &mdash; to the general-audience reader at which Wiki policy says we write. But that's perfectly fine to talk about and explain in context in the Fictional character biography.


 * One quick note: The policy on plot synopses is that they be concise and not contain extraneous details. I'm not sure that details about someone having collapsed to the floor, for example, are really needed. I'm sure there are more direct, major plot points, and we can streamline to the most salient. (Also, generally, characters after the first mention are referred to by last name, so it would be "Brandt," for example, and not "Ellen".) In any case, keep up the nice work -- the page-count of the first story, for instance, is indeed relevant for just the kind of reason you gave. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:52, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, that was just an example, and in this case, Harrison, motorboating, and the fact Brandt is from Wisconsin aren't really significant. (For a hard-core Man-Thing fan site, yes, every biographical detail of the characters is one interest. But not in an encyclopedia article, which requires perspective. If everything is given the same importance, then there's no way a general reader will glean what really is important.)


 * In the case of this passage:


 * Reminded by Dr. Calvin that S.H.I.E.L.D. has warned them that Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis disobeys orders by bringing a woman (later retconned to be his wife, but consistently referred to here as "Miss Brandt"), Ellen Brandt, originally from Wisconsin,[19] to his shack, sleeping with her and telling her about the project as he destroys his notes, believing that the formula now exists only in his head. Motorboating to the laboratory, where his colleague, Harrison, is to pick up the sample, Brandt accompanies him, but they find Harrison collapsed on the floor, and Brandt has prepared an ambush. Fleeing to his car with the only sample of the serum, he injects himself with it, believing that he will become a Super-Soldier (someone of peak human, although not superhuman, abilities) and survive the crash and submersion, drives through a fence and into the swamp. The serum instantly reacts violently with the fen, and, as later explained, magical forces extant in the area, transforming him into...


 * Here's how I would suggest editing it for encyclopedic succinctness:


 * Though warned that the technological terrorist group Advanced Idea Mechanics has been operating in the area, Sallis breaches security by bringing with him his lover, Ellen Brandt (later retconned to be his wife, but referred to here as "Miss Brandt"). He destroys his notes to his formula, which he has memorized. Later, at his nearby laboratory, Sallis is ambushed and learns Brandt sold him out. Fleeing with the only sample of his serum, he injects himself with it in hopes of attaining peak-human physicality and saving himself. However, he crashes his car into the swamp where chemical and, as later explained, magical forces instantly transform him into...


 * From six lines to four. All the major points are there, and we've removed tangential information such as the serum reacting "violently." --Tenebrae (talk) 23:17, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The question we have to ask ourselves is, is her being from either Wisconsin or Omaha of any significance to her actions regarding Man-Thing? Where she was born/raised would be notable in her own article, if she has one. Why would it be relevant here?

Chronology project?
Don't know what that is. Got the following when I tried the supplied URL: "Firefox can't find the server at www.chrnologyproject.com." --Tenebrae (talk) 23:27, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Okey-doke. I went there and it says "TOS 81/2." But if you go to Grand Comics Database, which gives the plot and lists the characters, there's nothing called Man-Thing in it. I've actually got my comics here and can look up that particular issue to be sure, but I suspect the chronologyproject (which is a fan site and not a professionally run site) may have typo'd. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:35, 31 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Well, in any case, I think we both deserve a pat on the back for making this article, which desperately needed to be, a bit better! Thanks for turning me onto the C Project! --Tenebrae (talk) 23:39, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - November 2008
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Odd edit
Hi Scott. I'm not sure what the problem is; that edit looks like a very simple formatting change. Maybe you just pressed enter accidentally; I certainly don't think there's anything to worry about. By the way, do you have any suggestions about who we should contact for Wikipedia Loves Art at the Indianapolis Museum of Art for February? Thanks.--Pharos (talk) 00:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

Character comedy
I see by your userboxes that you are a fan of the subject. An article just started and is in rather weak condition. I was hoping that you could lend a hand at Character comedy. Thanks! -- <b style="color:#996600; font-family:times new roman,times,serif;">Levine2112</b> <sup style="padding:1px; border:1px #996600 dotted; background-color:#FFFF99; color:#774400; font-size:x-small;">discuss 01:29, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

BLP
BLP applies when you make statements about living figures, you are claiming that he made a number of factual errors - you need to supply reliable 3rd party sources that about this claim. The fact that he's writing about fiction is irrelevant, it's *your* claims about the writer that are the problem. Don't restore without sources. --Cameron Scott (talk) 20:41, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

WP:NFCC
The page linked in the section heading above provides useful reading material. At some point, perhaps you could get around to apprising yourself of its contents? Cheers. -- Skarl 20:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

Hey, Scott
Happy New Year! Hope it's off to a good start. -- Tenebrae (talk) 01:33, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

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You're invited!
In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, look at our approval by the Chapters Committee, develop ideas for chapter projects at museums and libraries throughout our region, and hold salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the November meeting's minutes and the December mini-meetup's minutes).

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"My Name Is Not Merv Griffin"
Hi. I noticed that you added some interesting information to the article on this song, to the effect that it was a parody of a French song I'm not familiar with. I was just curious where you learned that information, as I hadn't heard it before. Thanks and regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 01:14, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

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65.88.88.126
I was aware that this was a public terminal. I determined that two major sockpuppeteers (Koov and Ron_liebman) were operating on this IP, so I hardblocked it. At the time, there appeared to be little to no collateral damage. I've now lifted the block. Nishkid64 (Make articles, not wikidrama) 16:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

February 2009
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Tyrannosaurus meat
Mary Higby Schweitzer contains all the references you need. ScienceApologist (talk) 01:37, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - March 2009
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The Princess Ozma question
Hi Scott, I have elevated the discussion from Talk:Princess Ozma to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_LGBT_studies, hoping to gather a variety of views there, including your studied opinion. I gave additional reasoning at Talk:Princess Ozma for this. I hope this is acceptable to you and that you will add your voice to the discussion at WikiProject LGBT studies. I tried to present your perspective there as well as I could, but it is likely I got it wrong, so I hope you will clarify. -- Kevin Saff (talk) 19:15, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

You're invited!
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Jennifer Kale
Hey there,

There is no page number, but if you take the intro as page 1, then if you look at the bottom left corner of page 6, Jennifer is pictured from the back and mentioned by name. It's a cameo though, so do what you will with the reference. :) 71.194.32.252 (talk) 03:42, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

It turns out that I was paying more attention to numbers than titles. It was actually a copy of The Mighty Avengers #19 that I was looking at, mixed in with issues of Avengers: The Initiative, so I was totally wrong in questioning you.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 02:34, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Nirvana
The text on the "Roots Of Tommy" CD is incorrect in its attribution. The "Forever Changing" compilation features only original recordings from the Island years - 1967 to 1969. The version of "Pentecost Hotel" on the "Roots Of Tommy" compilation is an early 1970s remake of the song that the magazine licensed in rather than use the original Island recording. I believe that the choir version had previously surfaced on a non-Island Records compilation. I will check further. But the "Forever Changing" compilation features no re-recordings. Davidpatrick (talk) 23:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

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You're invited...
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I undid your reversion of Leonard Kastle
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AfD nomination of David Friedman (composer)
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Articles for deletion nomination of Jana Stanfield
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Huh?
Hi. You just posted this warning on my talk page for some reason I cannot fathom. The only problem with that is that the last (and only) time I edited Wicked Witch of the West was in November 2008, which appears to have been a valid reversion. Maybe you confused me with someone else, but either way, you might want to read Don't template the regulars before slapping warnings on people's talk pages like that. Cheers. --DAJF (talk) 06:44, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election
Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

WikiProject Novels - Coordinator Election
Hello. To begin, every member of WikiProject Novels will be getting this message (the joy of macros) so if you wish to get in touch with me, please post a message on my talk page. I would encourage anyone who so wishes, to stand in the Coordinator Elections. If you wish to stand, please do so by 23:59pm, June 27. Voting will the continue to 23:59pm, July 21. Can everyone please check-out the Coordinator Elections page. Also, the collaboration of the month is The Tin Drum, so if you have any spare time, please check it out. And I apologise to the seven of you for whom this will be a repeat message. Regards, Alan16 (talk).

Coordinator Election
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Daily Word
Hi. The Unity Daily Word article has been flagged for deletion. Does you know of any reliable news sources that can be cited? Thanks! --Trelawnie (talk) 01:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

The WikiProject Novels Newsletter - July 2009
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WikiProject Novels - Narnia Task Force
Hi! You would be glad to know that a new wikipedia ad has been created by Srinivas to encourage users to join Chronicles of Narnia Task Force. You can display that ad on your user/talk page too using the following code:

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WikiProject Novels - August 2009 Newsletter
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AfD nomination of Brooklyn Repertory Opera
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Semi-professional opera companies
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tea party movement
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Madame Xanadu and the Grim Reaper
It appears you made the edit to Death (DC Comics) claiming that Madame Xanadu met the Grim Reaper. Where did you get this information? If it appeared at all, it would have to be in an issue of The Spectre, as it's certainly was not in any of her early appearances. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 18:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't even remember editing that article, there have been so many. Checking the history that was a year ago, and it is also very obvious from the history that I was not the originator of the Madame Xanadu information, it predates my edits. For future reference, I never add arcane information without references. --Xero (talk) 12:13, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

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Merlin
You need to provide some evidence that the Merlin in The Demon (vol. 1) is not the same as the Merlin in The Demon (vol. 2). If you can do so, I will stop making my changes.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 05:19, 11 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I think you are a little confused by the fact that the currently Madame Xanadu is a Vertigo book set in the DCU. Have you actually read any of the books in question? I have, I had to reread them when I was researching before building the page. The 1972 Demon version of Merlin is the one being used in the current Xanadu book, but the 1989 Demon version of Merlin was the one linked to the Vertigo universe, it ran concurrently with Neil Gaiman's Sandman which then went on to be a Vertigo book, while the Demon was a DCU book set in the Vertigo Comics universe until their versions of Hell (DC Comics) diverged. The mainstream DCU Merlin from the 1972 Demon is just a wizard, the 1989 version is the Demon Etrigan's half brother. It can a little confusing for new readers which might be why you don't understand the difference. And please don't threaten to make regressive edits on an Editor's talk page, it's bad form. --Xero (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

Claiming that the DCU version of Hell debuted in The Demon (vol. 1) #1 is an unencyclopedic inference that would fall under WP:OR. Hell is never shown or mentioned until issue #14, and even then, it's a dream sequence. In the 1970s, Marvel's "demons" were shown to be interdimensional beings who would use concepts of Hell and Satan, but were distinctly separate from it, although Marvel's writers eventually changed this in the 1990s and depicted four Hells that met in a corner and were ruled by Pluto, Hela, and two original demons that went through various regime changes. Considering any time Kirby makes a reference to "Satan," he always places it in quotation marks as if highlighting such an assumption. In-universe, it might be appropriate to say that the concept of Hell debuted in this issue, but otherwise, it is unacceptable, because it is not a concept that derives from Kirby. Who's Who in the DC Universe claims that the Lords of Chaos and Order debuted in More Fun Comics #55, but I defy you to find any reference or depiction there beyond the retcon of saying Nabu is in the Doctor Fate helmet and that Nabu is a Lord of Order. And as far as the Lords of Chaos, where are they? Steve Gerber said that one of the reasons he used Negal as the principal villain in his Doctor Fate run is because he was not portrayed as a Lord of Chaos, a concept he found boring. The Lords of Chaos are nowhere to be seen anywhere in The Golden Age Doctor Fate Archives.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 12:12, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

By the way, telling me to "behave myself" when I acted properly is a violation of WP:civility.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 12:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Why are you bringing up the Lords of Chaos and Order, how are they relevant here? I'm not interested in discussing or arguing continuity with you Scott, I am not your confidant, and this is not a message board. I chronicle the events as they happened in the books, I'm not interested in interpreting what Kirby meant, or figuring out where they fit in continuity, I save that stuff for my blog and keep it out of the wiki. If hell is mentioned or shown in a book, if a representative of Hell like Etrigan is shown, then that is the concept of Hell. Maybe you should have taken the time to read the header on my talk page Scott? --Xero (talk) 16:51, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I was making a comparison. Had Kirby mentioned Hell or made a statement that Etrigan was indeed form Hell, then that would be valid; however, he did not, and thus only by retroactive continuity can that be said to be the case.  Simply stating that Etrigan is a deomn is not enough, which is why I brought up the example of Marvel demons, many of whom claimed to be from Hell but were later revealed to be from somewhere else.  In this case, the claim the Etrigan is from Hell came much later.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 23:50, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

Tea Party
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 * I had a legitimate question as to which elements were WP-worthy. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 06:18, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Hell (DC Comics)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Hell (DC Comics), you may be blocked from editing. --Xero (talk) 09:46, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

It is clear that you have read neither The Demon (vol. 1) #1 nor DC Special Series #8, or you would not repeatedly make the erroneous assertions that you did. Again, Hell, Lucifer, The Presence, and the Silver City neither appear nor are mentioned in The Demon #1. DC Special Series #8 does not feature a dream sequence. It does, indeed, show a man signing messages Lucifer, but Lucifer himself is shown on several pages with a council including the spirits of Hitler, Nero, Fawkes, and several others, and he is explicitly controlling the man who is signing the messages. An imposter Lucifer appeared in Blue Devil #31, but I didn't even mention him, although he does die and go to Hell at the end of the issue. Trying to claim that the DC Universe concept of Hell appeared in The Demon (vol. 1) #1 is a violation of WP:OR and WP:Manual of style (writing about fiction). Please refrain from making such edits. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 03:35, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


 * If you had actually looked at the most recent version of the article before reverting it you would have noticed that it had already been changed. But you didn't actually do that did you? No instead you made a regressive edit to the page that removed a large chunk of relevant content. I'm curious which part of the divergence do you not understand? The fact is that when DC moved these characters to the Vertigo imprint, they created an entire separate ecosystem and Karen Berger mandated that none of these former DCU characters or concepts could cross over from Vertigo. So they created separate versions of Hell to service both imprints. This can't be made any more simple for you, any more objection on your part, says to me that you are being deliberately and willfully disruptive. --Xero (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)


 * I am sorry that I had to report you as a vandal, as you obviously know quite a bit more about recent DC comics than I do. However, considering that I had to refer you more than once, as seen above as well as on the discussion page, and in an edit to your talk page that you deleted, to the Wikipedia guidelines to which you were not adhering, this was the only correct way to characterize your persistent blanking of my edits and reinstatements of false claims.  I hope you will continue to edit on Wikipedia with an awareness of its guidelines. --Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 19:23, 30 August 2010 (UTC)


 * What I find amusing Scott is you lecturing me on Wiki etiquette as if I just got here. I created my first Wikipedia account in 2002, this is my second. If I just combined the edits and experience actually building pages from my second and third accounts, anything you've done while trying to pad your edit count would be a drop in the bucket. What I have realized is that ever since your post on my discussion page I've seen way too much of you. You seem to be thriving on this conflict, I created that page, but you seem determined to squat there, so I'm taking myself out of the equation, it's all yours Scott. --Xero (talk) 20:30, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

August 2010
This is the final warning you will receive regarding your disruptive edits. The next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did to Hell (DC Comics), you may be blocked from editing without further notice.


 * Failure to follow the guidelines of WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:Verifiability, and WP:Manual of style (writing about fiction) on your part does not constitute WP:Vandalism on my part.--Scottandrewhutchins (talk) 17:44, 30 August 2010 (UTC)

Nudity in film
See WP:SPS. —Tamfang (talk)

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NYC Meetup: Saturday, December 4
Our next Wikipedia NYC Meetup is this weekend on Saturday Dec 4 at Brooklyn Museum during their awesome First Saturdays program, starting at 5 PM.

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Augustine
I reverted your addition to Augustine of Hippo as unsourced; if you have a secondary RS that supports it, by all means re-add it. And btw, if you archive your talk page, it will load considerably faster.carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 16:57, 26 December 2010 (UTC)