User talk:Scottcronk

June 2009
Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. MrOllie (talk) 20:02, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

The Link I added - www.Solar-Estimate.org -- is to a free public service site that was funded by the California Energy Commission, the Dept. of Energy, and other grant-making organizations. I think it is absolutely a valuable link, a free public service and a very useful tool for people interested in learning more about solar energy. ... so please add them back in. Scottcronk(talk) 21:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Formerly funded by public monies, and now managed by a private sector LLC that provides sales and marketing services, correct? - MrOllie (talk) 14:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

www.Solar-Estimate.org is still funded by volunteers and is a not-for-profit activity: www.Solar-Estimate.org is a FREE public service funded by donations 100%. The reason the State of California, State of Maryland, DOE and other government agencies link to www.Solar-Estimate.org is because IT IS a non-biased, ad-free, public service. Compare this to organizations like the American Solar Energy Society (ASES) who is linked into solar topic Wiki pages, but ASES sells magazines and conference tickets and links to lots of sites that give them referral fees back (like Findsolar.com). Just because ASES does not pay taxes (i.e a Non-profit) does not matter. So, I fail to see your logic here ... If you remove this link to www.Solar-Estimate.org then you might was well remove all links to any non-profits or not-for-profit projects and just leave in government links.

Look at the external links to "solar Energy" -- you will see links to "Solar Today" magazine and the Prometheus Institute -- why are we allowing these links when the magazine is clearly a commercial activity and the Prometheus Insitute is as well (all they do is sell reports)???? !!!!

AGAIN, www.solar-estimate.org is about as close to a free public service as you can possibly get.

Should I raise this up a level to let the other Wiki volunteers make a determination? Scottcronk(talk) 19:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

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www.Solar-Estimate.org is still funded by volunteers and is a not-for-profit activity: www.Solar-Estimate.org is a FREE public service funded by donations 100%. The reason the State of California, State of Maryland, DOE and other government agencies link to www.Solar-Estimate.org is because IT IS a non-biased, ad-free, public service. Compare this to organizations like the American Solar Energy Society (ASES) who is linked into solar topic Wiki pages, but ASES sells magazines and conference tickets and links to lots of sites that give them referral fees back (like Findsolar.com). Just because ASES does not pay taxes (i.e a Non-profit) does not matter. So, I fail to see your logic here ... If you remove this link to www.Solar-Estimate.org then you might was well remove all links to any non-profits or not-for-profit projects and just leave in government links.

Look at the external links to "solar Energy" -- you will see links to "Solar Today" magazine and the Prometheus Institute -- why are we allowing these links when the magazine is clearly a commercial activity and the Prometheus Insitute is as well (all they do is sell reports)???? !!!!

AGAIN, www.solar-estimate.org is about as close to a free public service as you can possibly get.

Should I raise this up a level to let the other Wiki volunteers make a determination? Scottcronk(talk) 19:50, 12 June 2009 (UTC)