User talk:Scoutersig/Archive 2007b

Phi Kappa Psi Controversy
Check out talk:Phi Kappa Psi especially the "Beebe Membership Issue" section. I'd like to see your thoughts on the issue. Samwisep86 21:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Scouter, help me out! someone is falsely accusing me of being a sock puppetter!Samwisep86 19:55, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the support, ScouterSig. I appreciate it. Samwisep86 03:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thank You
Thank you for the shiny award brother! Acidskater 02:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

Your assistance in tables
Jack, I am requesting your assistance in creating an easier-to-view table of membership on the North-American Interfraternity Conference page. I saw that you created the table on the List of Samurai Jack episodes page, and was hoping that you could create something visually similar, with visible lines, etc. I look forward to editing with you! &mdash;ScouterSig 23:56, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Hey, I'm afraid I just copied the table from another page. I would recommend you do the same and adjust the variables, if you don't understand why something isn't working just leave me a note on my talk page and I'll try and help out. Cheers, Jack 14:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Hey douche
Frat guys rape girls. They are rapists. What good is a frat house without a rape room? This is Wikipedia, not your personal homepage. My edits are not vandalism. What I have put in is common knowledge. Stop trying to put up a front about Greek life. By the way, I saw your MySpace. Nice beard, you douche. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by JsmithKSC (talk • contribs) 23:29, 8 May 2007 (UTC).
 * Whoa there buster. If you throw around anymore generalizations you might hurt yourself. It seems that the experience you have with with Greek Life has been negative, and that is a shame. Greek Life should be a force for good, and that is what I see Scouter trying to do with his edits. Too often in the past, and even today, fraternities have acted horribly. Those who continue to do so cureently are not representative of the mean. Please if you cant keep your comments civil, dont post them. Samwisep86 02:28, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

Nazca lines editor
I'd be glad in editing with you, thanks -- Andersmusician  $  00:35, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

You're edit
I'm mighty confused sir. You said something 'bout a red link, that link don't look red to me. It's clearly burgundy, the colour of my baby's eyes, oh yeah. So if the link is red, it is not burgundy then why do people still remove a clearly burgundy link. I need some clearing up colonel! I daresay I don't particularly undestand the red link. Anyway, why allow for discrimination of burgundy of red,(or even crimson I daresay). In 1909 they shot the color blind man man - wouldn't ya agree that people need color blind tests? MorningRazor

B-class
I wasn't sure if this is a B-class list or not. I think it is a B. Acidskater 22:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes, I would say "B class," though the famousphis link isn't working for me could be that I have a Mac, so that's a prominent source that I can't verify. &mdash;ScouterSig 00:31, 16 May 2007 (UTC)


 * It works and is actually a really cool setup for a website. Acidskater 01:12, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

Deleted
They are now.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  21:08, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

Case with the coa_Peru.jpg file
Hi Scoutersig. I am just uncertain about this file: Image:Coa Peru.jpg. The reason is that I just opened an account and I found appropriately to use it in my user page. Well I did after, in few days a bot deleted it and stated in a banner that this picture has issues with its copyrights and its use in wikipedia. I went to write to the user who uploaded back 2004. I read that in doing so than in his page he exhibits a great amount of warnings about uploading images.

Anyway I left a note indicating that if he could change the rationale for fair use or add more information, his laconic answer was that he did not remember and that he uploaded for the Spanish version of Wikipedia. Having writing this, I look forward for you to tell me how we denominated this image to be deleted, since there are other images with very well defined license status and information in Wikipedia. Or at least, how can I change the rationale of its fair use, which with the fair use, I am not feeling very comfortable either but it much better, than what it is a now, for other users that might to make use of this file. Well, thanks in anticipation for your support. -&quot;-Todos Llegan de Noche, todos se van de día&quot; 12:54, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Significant Sigs
So I began marking the sigs on the List of Sigma Chi members(the name really needs to be changed as well) who have been awared the significant sig award. I was able to do the athletics section but I have to leave in a few minutes and wont be back for a while. I figured Id ask you to finish it up, shouldnt take to long. I just used this link from the sigmachi.org website. In Hoc! Acidskater 20:10, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
 * I just returned from 11 days of various Scout camps; I noticed that you finished this yourself in my absence: Sorry to have missed out on the fun! Great job with all your wikipedia work. IHSV &mdash;ScouterSig 15:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
 * That page was the same one that inspired me to start the education section! Acidskater 21:43, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Proposed Micronation Wikiproject
I've published a proposal to gauge interest in setting up a micronation Wikiproject. Your comments and suggestions are welcome: WikiProject_Council/Proposals --Gene_poole 01:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Natlservice.jpg)
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Greek template re
Thanks! I was just getting tired of seeing those same 5 or 6 names under 'see also' for every organization page. This seems simpler. :) --ImmortalGoddezz 22:28, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

List of high school fraternities and sororities
Thanks for the comments and support, I have started the List of high school fraternities and sororities any help will be appreciated. Eljohnson15 04:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Jokes -- wombats or otherwise
Re "Eats, Shoots and Leaves": In that case, why don't you amplify or extend my contribution rather than simply deleting it? Why don't you try something pro-active, rather than merely nihilistic? There appear to be a lot of self-appointed policemen in the database who knock down people when they are trying to build it up. Nicht wahr? Varlaam 19:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC) [in Toronto]
 * There already is a mention of the "main" joke that the title stems from in the section "The Title"; there is no need to mention each variation thereof, dirty or not. &mdash;ScouterSig 14:17, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Scouting in ...
I don't necessarily disagree with you, but we need a global solution to deal with old councils. --evrik (talk) 20:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
 * In the Fraternities and sororities wikiproject, we have Category:Defunct fraternities and sororities. Perhaps the scouting project could use a whole page for the equivalent topic. However, there are SO many merged councils that it could take a long time. At the 2002 NOAC, there was a wall of flaps, one for each lodge ever, and it was "ginormous." &mdash;ScouterSig 05:15, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Perhaps, but we should discuss it first. Have you seen Scouting in Connecticut? It needs a lot of work, but it does divide the councils by past/present. --evrik (talk) 11:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Of course. Connecticut is a small enough state to be able to have those past councils right on the page; a similar California page would be unweildly. As I'm about to head off to Camp Whitsett on staff for the summer I won't really be able to participate in such a discussion and project. But the Connecticut article does a very good job. &mdash;ScouterSig 16:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Affwan, Mal Amr?
Naraht and AphiO1925 are wile-wiki-users and belongs to a friendly mission fraternity. Why they are doing things in changing and reverting of shared ideas on discussion page of Tau Gamma Phi article?

Pic of Ethan Luck
Regarding: Info on Ethan Luck and a pic of him that I discussed.

Hi there. I'm a fan of Ethan Luck's music (especially his work in Demon Hunter) and I found a blog of his on Xanga titled combatrock199, so I assumed that the wikipedia user with the same name was also Ethan Luck. Does that answer your question?

Peter 03:06, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Fennel[l]
You're welcome. Hesperian 04:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Refactoring talk page comments
Welcome to Wikipedia. Everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia. However, talk pages are meant to be a record of a discussion; deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, even if you meant well. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. —Remember the dot (talk) 07:58, 14 September 2007 (UTC)


 * (replying to message on my talk page) – Fixing spelling of others' comments is not allowed. Fixing spelling of your own comments after someone has replied to them requires use of &lt;del>misspelled words&lt;/del> and &lt;ins>correctly spelled words&lt;/ins> in order to preserve an accurate record. In this particular case, the misspelling "Cedar Ridge" shows that the writer is not very familiar with the topic and raises doubts about his or her credibility. Fixing that person's spelling actually changes the meaning of their comments by implicitly increasing their credibility. —Remember the dot (talk) 06:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

Fair use disputed for Image:Zen motorcycle.jpg
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Chaduri
You might want to revisit Articles for deletion/Kirti N. Chaudhuri. Material has been added. DGG (talk) 00:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Hey
Oh sorry, I actually have a name that I use all the time, I just forgot to sign in or something on some edits, ha ha. My username is RoryS89. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.164.31.182 (talk) 03:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's me. If you see that other un-signed in name on Christian music article, it's me, ha ha. Sorry for the confusion there. I need to remember to sign in more often I suppose. God bless.RoryS89 19:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)RoryS89

Please
Please: A) Read the Vandalism Wikipidia page and learn what constitutes vandalism. B) Get your PhD in Photography, teach at Harvard for 10 years and then come back and let the user of this IP address know that the content that he/she added/deleted/changed was "nonsense". Thank You.
 * This diff and this diff show this IP making edits that could easily be interpreted as vandalism. In addition to my reading the vandalism page, perhaps you should read the page on personal attacks. &mdash;ScouterSig 05:29, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

Map of Oceania
Hi Scoutersig, there is a new map in the category "Maps of Oceania" showing all regions Hobe —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.114.211.31 (talk) 18:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

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Fraternity Leadership Association
It was deleted as it was proposed for deletion as the concern of being non-notable was raised. The prod passed a whole week without being challenged, and as such, by procedures here, was eligible for deletion. It can be recreated of course, provided the notability concern is satisfied. But you might want to consider creating an article which had just one edit (the creation by one editor, ) and which took four months for its prod and subsequent deletion to get noticed. --soum talk 08:54, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

As you requested here is the deleted text:


 * The Fraternity Leadership Association is an association of several fraternities.


 * History
 * It was founded by former members associated with the North-American Interfraternity Council. They had left due to core idealogical differences and formed the Fraternity Leadership Association.


 * Member List
 * Delta Kappa Epsilon
 * Kappa Sigma
 * Phi Sigma Kappa
 * Sigma Alpha Epsilon
 * Sigma Lambda Beta
 * Sigma Pi


 * You're welcome. :) All the best with the article. Cya around. --soum talk 08:49, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Help with borders
help

How do I edit borders in wiki? I would like to make an infobox with nice thin lines, but they come out quite boxy. &mdash;ScouterSig 03:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

You should read Help:Infobox if you want to learn more about infoboxes. -- Goodsh oped3  511 0s 04:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Pledge panel
I've removed the Prod tag from Pledge paddle since according to the proposed deletion policy, it should only be applied once. As an alternative, I've redirected to Paddle_(spanking). --Tikiwont 08:23, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Chapter List
It happened sometime over the summer. There were two lists on the page, the original one you had put there and one that went by state. We discussed combing them and did it. Acidskater 04:25, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Dear Scoutersig, Proper Article for Tau Gamma Phi, requesting for respect and thanks.
Tau Gamma Phi—the Triskelion’s Grand Fraternity— is a social organization of higher education students in The Philippines, founded on a similar model to the fraternities of the United States and Canada.

The organization, originally known as the "Order of the U.P. Triskelions", was founded on October 4, 1968 by four Arts and Science students from the University of the Philippines, in the Diliman campus, Quezon City, Philippines. The group swelled in ranks and gained its recognition when the Greek-lettered name Tau Gamma Phi was adopted. A few years later, chapters from other college and university campuses in the Philippines were established.

The Tau Gamma Phi aims for the promotion and achievement of the ideals of fraternal brotherhood. The fraternity believes that it must forge its members to embody qualities of leadership, commitment, persistence, trust, integrity, respect, and vision. This fraternity aims for academic success, personal, career and spiritual growth, active participation in the community through service and social activities. The Tau Gamma Phi is committed to developing a best-in-class brotherhood organization: a student organization that embodies its own ideals and mission in accordance to fraternity’s Tenets and Code of Conduct.

A member of Tau Gamma Phi is called a Triskelion. Triskelion is a "Three Legged Symbol" as shown on the fraternity seal, (also used as a symbol of Brittany, Sicily and the Isle of Man) though its origin is a mystery. A Triskelion has always lived up to the motto, "it will stand no matter where you throw it", which accompanies its seal — Strength, Free Will and Brotherhood.

The turbulent 60’s was a decade of social and political upheavals in the annals of Philippine History. The period saw the breakdown of traditional beliefs and long-held values in favor of newer and more progressive ideas. In almost every aspect of Philippine life and culture, CHANGE seemed to be the rightful order of the day.

The Fraternity system in the University of the Philippines was immune from these external developments. As extraordinary times, called for and breed extraordinary men. 1968 saw the wielding together of 25 concerned student leaders with a vision of introducing change and reforms in the feudal and decadent nature of the existing Fraternity System. Then the result was the creation on October 4 of the same year of the UP Triskelions’ Grand Fraternity, better known as Tau Gamma Phi.

Through the years, the Tau Gamma Phi has never strayed from it’s goals, and although the cause of which it has chosen to champion has proven to be difficult and sometimes, seemingly hopeless, the Fraternity has, nevertheless survived and even increased a thousand-fold in strength and in number, knowing fully well that peace is a product of strength and not of weakness, where other fraternities with the same noble intentions failed to succumbed into non-existence by adopting a passive resistance to fraternity violence; the Tau Gamma Phi has chosen not to follow the same path lest it suffers the same fate.

Furthermore, as a manifestation of its sincerity towards the achievement of such goal, the Fraternity has taken an active role in organizing inter-fraternity alliances in the various schools and universities all over the country in the hope that such alliances will provide the conducive atmosphere where fraternities can slowly grow and mature together in a fellowship of mutual trust and respect in each other’s philosophies and ideals. "De gustibus non desputandum est - of likes and dislikes there should be no disputing, live and let live", this is one of the guiding principles of the Triskelions.

Today, the Tau Gamma Phi is already one of the biggest, most cohesive, and most dynamic fraternities in the Philippines. It boast of membership of every colleges and universities around the country, and now in all regions of the United States of America and other continents of the world; and true to its objective of changing the elitist orientation of the fraternity system, the Fraternity had decided to open its door to out-of-school youth (TYM/Triskelion Youth Movement) so that they, who were not privileged of education, may also share in the fruits and the glory of the Tau Gamma Phi. With the participation of the Triskelion Youth Movement (TYM), the fraternity has evolved to become a social organization with a strong objective to reach out to all sectors of the society especially those who are in difficult situations such as typhoons, floods, fires, and other calamities that affects the well being of every individual.

To date, the fraternity has thousands of resident and alumni members from every college and university in the Philippines. Professional Triskelions are actively involved in their respective fields of interests such as Triskelion Order of Law (TOL) for Law Students, Triskelion Order of Medicine (TOM) for medical practitioners, Triskelion Order of Business (TOB) for corporate leaders, businessmen and entrepreneurs, and the Triskelion Law Enforcement Group (TriLEG) for Law Enforcers.

At present, International Chapters, Councils and Coordinating Bodies are activated namely: Triskelion International (TI) and Triskelion Alumni Organizations (TAO) of the Middle East Region, Europe and Asia and Triskelion Global Coordinating Council (TGCC) of the Philippines and the Triskelion Grand Foundation (TGF) of Northern America whose main goal is to uplift the well being of the Supreme Fraternity and Bagong Tao Movement (BTM) a duly accredited party list organization for a better Triskelion future. Tau Gamma Phi vision and mission to serve and excel in all fields of human endeavor. Thus, a way of life in accordance with the Tenets and the Triskelion Code of Conduct while empowering the principle: "Man is Brother unto Man".

References: http://www.triskelionuae.i8.com/ http://taugammaphi1968.org/portal/index.php http://www.bagongtao.com/7101/13122.html http://thomasiantriskelion.org/tgp/home.php http://triskelion.blogsome.com/ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.188.105.230 (talk) 20:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

Isaac Alfred Jordan
It is actually Alfred. I originally read it in the 1967 Norman Shield, but I don't have a copy on me to quote it exactly. I am reverting your edit as per Citing sources. Acidskater 20:43, 22 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Here is the cache of page using google. Acidskater 20:46, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Right on, bro. Thanks and good job. &mdash;ScouterSig 21:36, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

AFAIK
When you wrote "Also, AFAIK, "scouting" should probably be lower case." what does AFAIK mean?&mdash;ScouterSig 17:29, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * As Far As I Know. Sorry about the confusion. - jc37 17:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Vigil UCFD
Kintets, You wrote: Upmerge, and next time it would be Scoutlike to discuss your plans at the Scouting Project you are a member of before you post it here, Scoutersig. Chris 18:28, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I am quite shocked to have my action called unscoutlike. I wasn't trying to hide the nomination; I just figured that within a week, which is how long the discussions stay open, plenty of people would see it from their watch pages list or otherwise. I see that two WP:Scout members saw the discussion within two hours, including yourself. If I offended you by not making a BFD out of it, I apoligize.&mdash;ScouterSig 19:16, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * What got me is that you did make a BFD (as you put it) out of it, rather than just putting it to the Project and letting us come to the same decision, as peers and knowledgeable about the subject, rather than the end-run, which does not bespeak good faith in your fellow members. Chris 19:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Accepted and happy to work with you. Chris 04:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you
Thank you very much for the kind words about my pictures. It is very important for me now.--Mbz1 16:41, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:Surfer
Hi, ScouterSig, I'm not very accurate with my captions am I? Sorry about this. The image was taken in Santa Cruz, California exactly from here. Thank you.--Mbz1 16:28, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats
An editor has asked for a deletion review of Category:Wikipedians by alma mater and subcats. Since you participated in the deletion discussion for these categories, you might want to participate in the deletion review. - auburn pilot   talk  17:17, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

Going Greek NPOV
Miranda, there has been some (well, very little) discussion on the talk page for Fraternities and sororities about that article being biased to North America (I agree). I was thinking that to address some concerns, it needed to have a section right before "Greek umbrella organizations" on why people went Greek. It should talk about: grades, philanthropy, social networking, cultural growth (especially for NPHC), and leadership training, at least. But I can't seem to Google any information that is provided at a level larger than one campus, so any statistics I find are not useable. Where do you suggest I look? I'll look for your reponse on my talk page. &mdash;ScouterSig 22:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * For NPHC, you should check out this book: Ross, Jr., Lawrence (2000). The Divine Nine: The History of African-American Fraternities and Sororities in America. New York: Kensington, which has excellent information about your inquiries. If you have a response, can you please put on my talk. Sorry, but I can't help join the discussion due to the circumstances on my talk page. :-/ Miranda 22:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
 * It is hard to say where to look. Each Umbrella organization seems to have a section about why to go greek. If you can get a hold of a Bairds manual there may be something in there about going greek. Acidskater 23:18, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

Puerto Rico Frats
Thanks for your help in the page, I belive it is better not to have them redlinked, so i just took out the link compleatly whene the time comes I will make the apropiate names for the articles. I have a favor to ask, if you get a hold of a bairds manual can you look up my frat Phi Sigma Alpha I know it was in the book in the 1940's edition under a Zone of the Union Hispano Americana along with Phi Iota Alpha.

Thanks in advance, and any help in Puerto Rico Frats is aprisiated since I seem to be the only one contibuting heavily to the page and to the articles.

Eljohnson15 00:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

General Info on Greeks
one website I found that has general benefits of greek life and some reasons is one that is run by the NIC: http://www.fraternityinfo.com/. I can imagine there are some other related sites out there. I'll keep looking.Samwisep86 00:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

The Shitts
i have to go to class right now but this afternoon i'll put up some links to more websites. i found one for shitnoise productions.--Mrfries 15:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Theta Phi Psi
I have never heard of it before. Anything come up on google? -- Acidskater (talk) 21:47, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Scattered passing mentions here:,, and.

There is a downed webpage here (is 919 a NC area code?), and a geocities webpage  here. There isn't even email contact listed, though it obviously isn't a joke. What to do, what to do... &mdash;ScouterSig 21:59, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Duluth 2030
Hi. I've reverted you conversion of this article to a redirect on the grounds that the page is currently the subject of an AFD nomination. Your input on the discussion would be welcome. -- GW_SimulationsUser Page 21:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I was mistaken about the tags. &mdash;ScouterSig 21:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No problem. -- GW_SimulationsUser Page 22:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

re: Giant Smiley
Thanks for that! Much app. Lugnuts (talk) 09:55, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Re:Picture gallery
I userfy the gallery and I hope it is OK now. Thank you very much for the message. Best.--Mbz1 (talk) 17:31, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Highland Capital Partners
Re the "sounds like spam" tag added by Scoutersig -

Spam in a wikipedia article can consist of either

1. Adding an entry for unimportant topic: [b]given that HCP is one of the world's most important VC's, and that deletion of the previous entry left multiple dangling references, it is hard to see that as being the case here[/b]

2. An overly positive article: [b]as this article contains nothing except the most minimum facts, again it's hard to see that as being the case.[/b]

So please explain WHY you think the article is spam. Indeed, I would suggest that as a general rule, [b]if you can't take the time to provide a coherent explanation, or are an unable to, then don't tag.[/b] While Wiki does need protecting from spam, seemingly random unexplained tagging is not likely to be beneficial. [i]Use the Discussion page[/i] - and don't be afraid to drop a note on the User page of people concerned - that's what they are there for! Umptious (talk) 16:19, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Highland Capital Partners
Umptious, the wikipedia policy on spam (WP:SPAM) says that articles that could be considered spam "are public relations pieces designed to promote a company or individual" and that they often have "sales-oriented language and external links to a commercial website."

''-- Scooter, to further aid you in better understanding how to edit wiki, I've some bold to what you've written. "Often" is a hint, not a rule. Further, if there is "sales oriented language" there isn't, say what it is. As for "external links to a commercial website" any article for a company SHOULD include a link to its website - look at every other article on similar companies on wiki (really - do this in future! if you can't be bothered to compare an article you think is spam to two or three other articles, you can't be bothered to edit properly.) Umptious (talk) 00:02, 19 November 2007 (UTC) ''

This article has no external links, other than to the company's own website; it should have at least one to a neutral third-party article (written by say, the Wall Street Journal).

''- Wrong. [b]It is merely necessary that a source be sufficient for the claim made[/b]. In the event of a VC like HCP making an untrue claim for the basic facts given (which no one else could obtain except from the company...) the partners and auditors would be liable for civil and criminal damages so vast that I tremble to think of them being inflicted on anyone - even MBA's. This is basic stuff to anyone who knows anything about VC or business in general - if you don't know it, that's no shame, but I do question whether spending your time slapping spam tags on articles on subjects you have not even a basic comprehension of is this the best way of spending your time on wiki. If you utterly insist on editing specialist articles in areas you know nothing about, at least take a look at other articles on similar topics. Most company articles on wiki will get basic capital and revenue stats from company reports and websites for the reasons I've given - and everyone that doesn't will get them a source that did. Umptious (talk) 00:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) ''

The article talks about its total investment "to an undisclosed amount," which is not encyclopedic and sounds presumptuous.

''- I am heartbroken that you think I am "presumptious". However the amount is undisclosed, and I don't feel like making a figure up so that you will approve of my prose style... Umptious (talk) 00:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) ''

It also has a list of investments with no sources or reasons why the list is important.

''- If you had bothered to use one of the several tools wiki provides for editors the "linked here" then you might have a better idea... Umptious (talk) 00:00, 19 November 2007 (UTC) ''

It stands in my eyes as spam. &mdash;ScouterSig 16:49, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

''In short, I'm sure you mean well. But you need to read wiki guidelines more carefully and understand them, and put more effort into using the basic tools and procedures a would-be wiki editor should know. Deciding that an article is spam because it links to the subject's website is especially ludicrous - half of wiki would disappear if this scooter-rule was applied. Now, you could criticize the article for not having the sort of depth and breadth that would have included links to other sources, but that is a different problem to being spam. It's a criticism I listed in the article's talk page when I created it, and the answer would have been for you to do some some hard work using a search engine instead of just slapping a tag on an article.

So don't forget, in future:

- Read guidelines carefully

- Compare with other pages so that you verify your understanding of rules

- Use "linked to" (or - hey - shouldn't the fact that most of the selected investments HAD wiki links haved clued you to the fact that they pass wiki importance criteria? You do understand wiki importance criteria and these subjects would have to pass them???)

- Communicate using the Talk page and User pages''

Umptious (talk) 00:12, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

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Highland Capital Partners
Hi - in response to your note, I've userfied the last deleted version of Highland Capital Partners in your userspace at User:Scoutersig/Highland Capital Partners draft. I couldn't preserve the history, since the page has already been re-created, but at least you can compare the deleted version to what's up there now. When you're done with the draft, you can tag it with db-userreq and an admin will come along and delete it from your userspace. The article was originally created by User:NawlinWiki, quite some time ago (I think in 2005). Hope that's helpful. MastCell Talk 17:38, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, reviewing the above interaction with User:Umptious, if you feel the firm is non-notable (which, in its current state, I'd have to agree as it appears to fail WP:ORG), then the best approach (since it's already been through the PROD process) is to nominate it for a formal articles-for-deletion discussion, which will solicit outside and uninvolved input and feedback. MastCell Talk 17:41, 19 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much for your help and your advice, both of which are very much appreciated. &mdash;ScouterSig 19:06, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Allen Edmond
I am a bit confused as to why you marked the Allen Edmonds page for deletion. I agree that parts of it read like an advertisement--but there is a wikipedia template for this issue. Notability of this article is largely self-evident, and I explained why on the talk page, although I also added a second reference and restructured the references and links so that they were more clear. In general, I think people on wikipedia are too happy to delete pages when the pages simply need to be improved. I would love for you to contribute more to that page if you have more to offer. Are you also going to suggest deleting pages like Alden Shoe Company? Rather than delete such pages, I think we should expand them. Deletion is only appropriate for pages which cannot be reasonably expanded or improved, for example, because reliable sources for them do not exist. Cazort (talk) 20:52, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Insular Areas map
Thanks for the heads up. The map is incorrect. I hope to have new versions up soon. It seems like I messed up the locations of a few islands as well. Thanks again. - Thanks, Hoshie 01:21, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

I try...
Hehe, thanks! delldot  talk  16:40, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Speck
(In reply to WikiProject Music/Noticeboard) I think it's hopeless, you might want to give up on this one. - Pepve (talk) 18:17, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

thor!
thor, actually! thanks for catching the typo! Rackabello (talk) 20:00, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

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Re: New image
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 * ✅, but I didn't check if I put it back in the article right. east. 718 at 03:18, November 29, 2007

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Afd for Pick Me Up Magazine
Have left notes on this page re 2nd nom. -- Rodhullandemu  (please reply here - contribs) 23:16, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

new
Dear Scouter, because it does not make any sense to have a famous speech page without the actual famous speech. Why should the speech not be there? It is VERY famous and help make the greatest president we ever had.--Persianhistory2008 06:13, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Boston
Hey, no problem :) I'm currently trying to get to the bottom of another interesting one - a page written by someone who seems to know which books an author will write six years in advance. Hmmm.... Bedesboy (talk) 22:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Cats
What do you think about something like Category:Welsh Australians? &mdash;ScouterSig 22:56, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If you're asking if it should be nominated for deletion. Feel free if you feel that it's appropriate. When researching a CfD, often it's helpful to read the category introduction (if there is one), and do some searching for any related articles (or related information elsewhere online), and check the edit history for any previous XfD discussions of both the category, and those related articles. As for me atm, I'm staying neutral to that discussion. - jc37 00:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not trying to canvass people before a cfd. I just want to know what you think about it, because you seem to know a lot. &mdash;ScouterSig 00:25, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I understand (I think). But that aside, I try to stay neutral as a default anymore, since I may end up being the one to close the discussions.
 * That aside (and noting that you used it as an example at DRV), let me ask this: What are your concerns about it? - jc37 08:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * I dunno. I think that it's a little subjective, though the category specifically mentions that it's not supposed to be a whimsical choice. It's an interesting tidbit for like 4th grade biography reports, but it seems like something that. well, doesn't need to exist. &mdash;ScouterSig 13:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
 * If in your sincere opinion, you feel that way, the you should probably nominate it for discussion at CFD. (Notice that I'm still attempting to stay neutral : )
 * I'll give you a head's up though: Just as much as those who are scouts may feel they have a "stake" in a scout-related category, those of an ethnicity or nationality, at least just as much. So try to be prepared and do some research. Check out some related pages, and maybe do a bit of searching on line. I know for me in discussions, I'm a big fan of reliable sources. Google hit counting, not-so-much.
 * I hope this helps : ) - jc37 09:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Query
Based on your comments on the CFD on "admins open to recall", I'd like to have your opinion on an alternative idea with somewhat stricter norms.  &gt; R a d i a n t &lt;  00:44, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Re: Undeletion
Hi, I have placed a copy of the Lord Stettin article here as you requested. If you need anything else, just let me know. Thanks --  ¤ The-G-Unit-฿oss ¤   18:01, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

Is/Are
After getting your message I checked dictionary.com, and it appears that either the plural or singular verb is acceptable but the plural is more common. I'm more used to seeing the plural version, but since the dictionary says it's okay to use the singular I won't object if you want to revert the change. Karanacs (talk) 18:15, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Meh. I'm not exactly shaken (shook?) to my core. If its appropriate how you made it, it can stay. &mdash;ScouterSig 18:19, 19 December 2007 (UTC)