User talk:Sean1019

Trivia in Dune
Hey there, you have restored the MST3000 trivia to the Dune (film) article three times, which is a violation of WP:3RR because while I have explained my removals in the edit summaries, you have chosen not to discuss the issue or even defend your edits.

Per WP:TRIVIA and "In popular culture" articles, unsourced factoids noting every time a particular topic is mentioned or parodied do not belong in articles. It is not notable to mention Dune in passing in another film, TV series or novel; if we did so, there would literally be list of a hundred items. Further, such mentions do not establish a topic's "influence" on society or culture; rather, a reliable, verifiable external source (book, article, etc) must be referenced which comments on such influence, or the notability of a given reference to the topic. Please do not add this information again, or you may risk a block. Thanks. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 06:23, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Hello,
 * Please forgive my ham-fisted attempts to add to the "Influence on Popular Culture" section of the Dune (film) article. As you have no doubt surmised, I had no clue what I was doing. Repetition was a result of my assumption that a technical error was being made, on my part.
 * Once I have studied the guidelines more carefully, I look forward making correctly executed contributions to Wikipedia.
 * Perhaps then we could discuss MST3000's references to Dune, which I do feel have a place in that section on a par with the relevance of, say, a reference to Dune in the lyrics of a song -- particularly given MST3000's broad appeal, their repeated references to Dune, and that show's remarkable capacity for blending both sublime and banal cultural references to a humorous effect that often led their fans to further explore those references.
 * If I might ask for one specific tip -- when you said "I have explained my removals in the edit summaries, you have chosen not to discuss the issue or even defend your edits" I don't know where to look for your messages in that regard. Can you guide my hand?
 * Thanks,
 * Sean1019 (talk) 07:55, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message; we can definitely discuss ways for you to implement the influence on MST3000. basically, you need to find articles, etc. that discuss this influence. They can of course be web-based, but not forum posts, blogs, or personal sites.
 * Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dune_(film)&action=history for the Dune article's history, which included edit summaries; if you add it to your "watchlist" to can keep track of changes. More later. &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 17:30, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * "Check out http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Dune_(film)&action=history for the Dune article's history, which included edit summaries; if you add it to your "watchlist" to can keep track of changes."
 * Thanks. But I still don't see explanations for removals on the edit history page, or was that what the "remove non-notable trivia" notation meant? Would the Talk pages be the place to "discuss the issue or even defend (my) edits", or is there a place for that within the edit summary page? Also, is the need to cite an outside article specific to establishing cultural influence? For example, I work for a company whose Wikipedia entry is outdated. I'm not even sure who posted the original entry, but I'd be happy to correct it just to try my hand. Would I have to cite some sort of outside source to justify every change I made, lest they be removed? Thanks again. Sean1019 (talk) 21:28, 7 March 2009 (UTC)


 * Technically everything needs a source, but most uncontroversial information won't be removed just because it's unsourced. So go ahead and update your company article and see what happens ;) Someone will probably just add a fact tag or something requesting sources in the future.
 * Yeah, in general you should somehow explain your edits in the edit summary (it could be as simple as "update info" or "copyedit" or "fix"), and in the case of a revert, something that might address the previous summary. But yeah, if more extensive discussion becomes necessary, the talk page is where you start. I probably should apologize if I came off as a "dick" or anything, I should have looked at your contribution history, which would have told me you were new. Anyway, let me know if I can be of any help ;) &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 20:55, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Links
Sorry I hadn't answered your links question, I've been off-Wiki; looks like you figured it out, let me know if I can help further ;) &mdash; TAnthonyTalk 01:30, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

Actually, I still don't know how to do that. Somehow, "rock" links to "rock music", but the others don't. Any tricks? Thanks Sean1019 (talk) 05:28, 11 March 2009 (UTC)