User talk:SeanMon411/Archive 1

Hi, please don't remove the line on the sandbox that says "please don't remove this line". Thanks.--Rambutan (talk) 17:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Logistics Management (magazine), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

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Regarding edits to EDN (magazine)
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User talk pages and user pages
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Spam in Logistics Management magazine
Hello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Logistics Management magazine, by another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Logistics Management magazine is blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person that would require a substantial rewrite in order to become an encyclopedia article. To contest the tagging and request that administrators wait before possibly deleting Logistics Management magazine, please affix the template to the page, and put a note on its talk page. If the article has already been deleted, see the advice and instructions at WP:WMD. Please note, this bot is only informing you of the nomination for speedy deletion, it did not nominate Logistics Management magazine itself. Feel free to leave a message on the bot operator's talk page if you have any questions about this or any problems with this bot. --Android Mouse Bot 2 18:31, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

What is really needed
I've been working in large part on improving articles about magazines and journals since i joined WP--I'm now one of the many administrators here--so let me tell you what is actually needed for improving these articles, because improvement is needed, and in more respects than mentioned above. (I was meaningto get around to Elsevier one of these days, but it's so big I wanted to save it for last) With respect to trade magazines, the article should:
 * Give information about how frequently it is published, the starting date of publication, any previous titles, and the dates of title changes.
 * If it is available online, say so, and give the date of beginning availability.
 * List the editor in chief, if there is one. Say what company or institution he comes from. Put a link for his name and the institution name. WP uses these links in evaluating importance of the people. Even if its a red link, use it, so we know we might need an article. If the company or institution is red, check if you have the proper form.
 * List the major indexes that cover it--just the major ones, and just the relevant ones--for example, Chem Abs indexes every journal that ever has a chemical article, but just the chemical articles, so its only appropriate for chemistry & engineering title. If it's covered by web of science or by scopus, say so.
 * If it should be in Journal citation reports--a few trade magazines are--give the current impact factor in the form:

The 2006 impact factor is x.xx, which is 4th of 40 in the engineering subject category. the "of 40" part is to clarify if its 4th of 4, or 4th of 40. Give a footnote reference to Journal Citation Reports (brackets as specified) If you give these for any, you must give them for all journals, even if they are last in the class. But if they are not included, you don't have to say anything.
 * Give the circulation, if you give it for all magazines of the class. The reference for this can be BPA--if you use it include the word "audited" (and please write an article on BPA so people know what it is) but I normally use Ulrich's, even though the figures are approximate. Link to Ulrich's.
 * ALWAYS give the ISSN, both print and online.
 * Use the journal infobox template on at least all academic publications--no reason not to use it for them all.
 * If it is a controlled-circulation journal say so, and help me write a page explaining what that is.

It should not:
 * List the editorial board, or any people other than the editor in chief.
 * Have the typical sentence used in ads and web pages: "This magazine is intended for ... (it's almost always obvious), but if the contents or orientation is much different than expected from the title, it should say so.
 * mention pricing, or through what packages it is available.

Optionally (this is an experiment) If it is available through major full-text service like Lexis or Ebsco, say so, linking them. If there is an embargo period, give it, using a link to embargo (academic publishing) The symbol just before the closing brackets is a vertical pipe symbol, usually shift-backslash, so it comes out reading just embargo.

As for categories, we're still experimenting. Separate posting.

If any articles should get deleted by speedy, or threatened, please let me know and I will check what's up and give my opinion. There is a level of significance below which we do not go. Or if there are other problems. If someone suggests that any of the above material is not appropriate, please let me know so i can discuss t with him. Better me than you. DGG 23:24, 26 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the note. Please, please, fix the existing articles before continuing to add any more.
 * as for article titles: The word magazine should be in the title of the article ONLY if it is part of the formal title of the publication. Usually Ulrich's is the best source for that--library catalogs follow their own peculiar rules, and what appears on the cover changes from time to time. Otherwise the distinguishing term (magazine) is to be added in parentheses, all as specified by the wikipedia manual of style, WP:MOS. Yes, WP has a style manual, and does try for consistency. Please check on the ones you moved and let me know which have to be moved back and I'll do it for you--it will usually be necessary to delete a redirect (automatic cross-reference) page, which only an admin can do. Please keep in touch. DGG 22:19, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image (Image:Logistics Management magazine cover.gif)
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 * Looks good. I made a couple of minor tweaks:
 * It's always advisable to include the article(s) where you are using the image
 * a) in case one editor removes it, another can reattach it later - this is actually true for all images, not just fair use.
 * b) in case another editor adds it to additional articles where it might not be fair use, you've staked your claim that it's fair use in the article you put it in.
 * I tweaked the replacability statement to one that I would use. Feel free to revert or change if you feel more comfortable.
 * I would also suggest that you include information if you have it about which issue of the magazine is pictured (volume/issue and/or date). If the magazine is around for a while, there may come a time when it would make sense to show what the magazine looked like at different times in it's history (with commentary on how it reflected the styles of the time or ...), and a date would be helpful then.
 * Thanks for taking the time to address this. ~ Bigr  Tex  14:45, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Design News
Hi. I hate to do this but I'm going to pass the buck here. I don't expect to have much time in the next few weeks so I won't be able to be of much help. I seem to remember that has done some work with magazine articles: he might be of some help and he's an excellent editor. It's actually not easy to write such articles: for one thing if you're related in some way to the magazine then you're facing problems of conflict of interest and even if you're not, there's often not much to say about magazines. Take the stub Logistics Management (magazine): it's decent and not too spammy. But what further content would be appropriate for a Wikipedia article? Maybe a list of the main contributors (although that's of dubious interest), further details on circulation number, etc. But beyond that, a further expansion of the article would require describing the place of the magazine in its field, the history of its circulation numbers, the history of its creation, comparison to competing publications, and so on. The problem with all these fantastic topics is that it's very difficult to build this content upon reliable, third-party sources. In any case, i hope this helps but really you should seek further advice from an admin who's got more time in the near future than I expect to have. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 22:48, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

DGG conversation
when adding journal subscriptions, do not link to a free subscription web site: I shall personally remove any I see. Link to the website for the publication, at which--I would assume--there is a prominent link for free subscriptions.

Let me suggest that you add only 1 or 2 pages at a time and that they be your strongest journals, with verified circulation figures, so you can see what the reaction is. Don't go by only my reaction--I have no more influence than anyone else. And do not try to include the weakest. WP is not a directory, and the definition of a directory is "indiscriminate". DGG (talk) 18:45, 10 July 2007 (UTC)


 * thanks for the confidence, and I was making you aware of the difficulties similar articles have experienced. you need not fear the possibility of being solely responsible or having control over anything--the line about WP being mercilessly edited is very true. DGG (talk) 20:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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