User talk:Sean Stephens/Archive 2

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Before you request moves like this in future, just know that there are some editors on this website, namely ones like In ictu oculi, who will argue with editors endlessly that a preceding "The" in a title of a work does not sufficiently disambiguate it from others. I've had those very discussions before. I deliberately created the article at Optimist (Finneas album) while also having created the redirect for Optimist (album) myself. My point is others find it less clear so explore all the options before requesting them as they're not always uncontroversial technical requests.  Ss  112   01:36, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * I thought that it might've deliberate; I didn't think it was like you to "miss" something so pertinent as correct disambiguation. I'm aware of the editor you mentioned, and it sounds like they need to be made aware that small details are almost always enough to differentiate two (or more) articles. Time will tell whether or not any further discussions result from the move I guess. Thank you for making me aware of that though. Sean Stephens (talk) 02:35, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Please avoid following me to articles you've never edited before. I'm sure you have enough articles you can edit without needing to peruse my contributions just like AshMusique does when you're bored or for ideas. You followed me to A Shape of Light and not only that, but you then added ridiculous British English and use dmy dates templates when we should be using neither considering it's a Japanese topic and Japanese topics predominantly use mdy. I'm sure you're aware this behaviour can be construed as hounding even if you have no negative intent or malice. Thank you.  Ss  112   03:44, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I don't know why you feel I've done you wrong here. I only came across the page in question (I think you're referring to A Shape of Light??) because of Himu's edits, who I have been keeping track of as he's interfered with various pages I've edited in the past, so I've kept an eye out in order as his edits are beginning to be more disruptive than productive. I went to Sergecross73's talk page in order to raise an (unrelated) issue, when I came across a discussion between him and Serge regarding changes he'd been making, so I headed to the article he'd edited in order to make sure everything was "up to scratch", so to speak (I ended up getting distracted and forgetting to ask him what I'd intended, but that's irrelevant). I don't know how you got the impression I followed you there, but I'm sorry you did. I'm sure you've probably had your fair share of people doing that in the past, but I can assure you, I have better things to do than to worry about what you're doing. As for the templates added, I figured it was either Use British English or Use American English, as Use Japanese English doesn't currently exist. I figured someone would remove them if they were wrong, and they were; you live and you learn, I guess. Anyway, please avoid bringing unnecessary drama to my talk page: this is clearly a misunderstanding on your part, as I have no intention to "hound" others on here. Sean Stephens (talk) 13:14, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

Autopatrolled granted
Hi Sean Stephens, I just wanted to let you know that I have [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=rights&page=User%3ASean_Stephens added] the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Autopatrolled. However, you should consider adding relevant wikiproject talk-page templates, stub-tags and categories to new articles that you create if you aren't already in the habit of doing so, since your articles will no longer be systematically checked by other editors (User:Evad37/rater and User:SD0001/StubSorter.js are useful scripts which can help). Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing!  Schwede 66  20:29, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Very much appreciated, thank you! I will ensure I continue to add talk page tags and create new categories where necessary. Thanks for getting in touch. Sean Stephens (talk) 13:21, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

King Brown
I reverted your changes for several reasons, some of those are given in the edit summary. Can the notability of the song title be established? I have considered a disambiguation for the term before, athough all that I can think of refers untimately to the sanke. eg. slang for a large bottle of beer ~ cygnis insignis 11:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * That's fair enough, thanks for being pragmatic and following it up with an explanation. A disambiguation page seems apt. As for the notability of the song, see various sources here, here, here, here, and here. It's far more notable than her article makes it appear. I'm happy to create a disambiguation page, as that appears to be the best solution at this point in time. Sean Stephens (talk) 22:36, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
 * No worries. That does seem to support notability, and having listened to them I am now a fan (especially liking the reworking of that cool tune from an annoying song). When the article is expanded then what you had as hat notes may be the means to direct readers to Barkaa's song, a source that connects the term to the sanke could support a mention in that article. ~ cygnis insignis 10:20, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies for the delayed reply. I'm thinking at some stage, I'll draft an article and from there we can see where a potential disambiguation page would go. I'll be sure to expand the relevant article(s) in order to justify the hatnote. Sean Stephens (talk) 04:10, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

WP:RFPP
Hi! I saw this edit and was just wondering what process you followed to make that edit? The requests aren't normally supposed to go there, but that's not your fault - that's just something that needs to be fixed in the process or code somewhere. Enterprisey (talk!) 05:44, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Hey! I'm pretty sure I went from Protection policy to Requests for page protection and then clicked "Request unprotection" and added it in there. If I mucked that up, I apologise, that's on me. Thank you for moving it to the right place. Sean Stephens (talk) 05:55, 21 January 2022 (UTC)

Please preview before saving
Please do not add nonexistent templates to talk pages, as you did here and on other pages. Use preview before saving to ensure that there are no errors in the pages that you are creating or modifying. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:51, 21 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Apologies, it wasn't my intention. As I edit on my mobile phone, you see, the preview function is limited and doesn't show up non-existent templates. It didn't appear to be causing any problems when I initially checked, so I figured I'd proceed. I'm sorry if it caused you any inconvenience. Sean Stephens (talk) 23:31, 23 January 2022 (UTC)

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No, it's not common practice and don't edit war over hatnotes
It's not "common practice" to list non-notable songs as hatnotes on far more notable songs' articles unless those songs have articles and are not determined not to be the primary search term. If anything, editors like you have tried to make this common practice. Don't edit war when you're reverted for things like this in future because WP:BRD trumps whatever importance you see in adding silly little features like this. You can tell me "you don't have any proof for that claim" but I guarantee you nobody is trying to find an album track from a one-hit wonder when searching "To the Moon" on Wikipedia. Common sense applies here and everywhere, and you don't get the right to edit war regardless of whether something is allowed on Wikipedia or not.  Ss  112   15:35, 26 February 2022 (UTC)

Primary topic how? Don't move redirects pre-emptively
In regards to Won't Forget You, please do not move redirects pre-emptively and try to avoid moving redirects at all unless you're moving them out of the way for an actual article. I hope you realise editors like Jax 0677 have gotten blocked because of their habitual moving of redirects. You claimed in an edit summary when moving a redirect I created that the "Shouse song would appear to be the primary topic" without a hint of evidence. Based on what? Both are singles. Pixie Lott is historically a more notable artist than Shouse, who have yet to prove they're anything beyond a one-hit wonder. And then leaving all that aside, you said you would be creating an article there later and three weeks later...nothing. As I said, be careful moving redirects before actually making anything because this just looks like you wanted article credit for doing zilch. If I find you've moved more redirects of mine out of the way for nothing in future, I will be reverting you and informing an admin. This isn't acceptable and your practices on Wikipedia are becoming quite questionable.  Ss  112   08:55, 4 March 2022 (UTC)

Running Touch
I'm currently busy elsewhere. I saw your edit at the above article. If you're not too busy yourself, you might want to provide Australian charting for:
 * 1) A Body Slow, No. 1 on ARIA Hitseekers Albums, No. 31 ARIA Digital Albums. Both via "ARIA Report" Issue 1415
 * 2) "My Hands" (Superlover / Adult Art Club / The Journey mix), No. 12 on ARIA Club Tracks. Via "ARIA Report" Issue 1497

Its okay if you are too busy, no pressure.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 09:23, 27 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Apologies, I forgot to respond to this the other day. I'm happy to add the peaks, thanks for letting me know about them! Sean Stephens (talk) 05:04, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for mopping this up, I'm still busy elsewhere.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No problem! Always happy to help. Sean Stephens (talk) 05:30, 30 March 2022 (UTC)

Mia Wray
ARIA used to let PANDORA archive their ARIA Reports which provided chartifacts and charts (including component ones), from issue 566 (1 Jan 2001) to issue 1544 (30 September 2019). The archive was taken over by Trove and is housed here. In October 2019 I contacted both ARIA and Trove by emails but neither could explain why they were no longer archiving the reports. Each blamed the other, I suspect the reason was money-related.

As for Mia Wray it was issued in early June 2014? If it charted it should have been covered by issues 1266 and/or following.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 05:39, 9 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for all of that, I think that answers all of the questions I had. Each of them blaming the other doesn't surprise me either, I've found ARIA employees to be quite slack at their jobs in the past! I'll take a look at those issues and see if I find anything I guess. Much appreciated! Sean Stephens (talk) 07:03, 9 April 2022 (UTC)

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Rancid Eddie
If you would like to add streaming service links do that in the Charts section next to the song. The citations I removed where from either dead links or a non-valid primary source as it is easily editable. A valid source should not be easily editable. Please Do not revert the Rancid Eddie article article as very useful information and citations were added. I have no Agenda, in fact I have added the band's statement regarding the controversy from a valid source, which in any case helps them — Preceding unsigned comment added by Matias4000 (talk • contribs) 23:21, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * They weren't and aren't used as "streaming service" links per se, they're used to verify the digital release of the single. They should be used to source the single's official release date where possible. Dead links are still valid sources, and they're all archived so all that needs to be done is change "url-status=live" to "url-status=dead". Your changes weren't helpful, hence why I reverted them–you removed valid citations and replaced them with nothing, leaving the material unsourced, you replaced chart peaks with sentences that mislead the reader into thinking it peaked at #2 on the ARIA Singles Chart, when that's not the case, and you added sources to the lead, where it is not required. And your last sentence is entirely my point, it seems that you are acting on behalf of the band, which would be a conflict of interest. Changing peaks to reflect a higher peak on a lower chart is generally am indication of this, as it can show intent to "promote" the subject of the article. Sean Stephens (talk) 23:38, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * as you can see here "Dry" did peak in number 2 https://www.aria.com.au/charts/australian-artist-singles-chart/2021-10-11 I am not acting on behalf of the band, a controversy citation should have all the information required from every part. Matias4000 (talk) 23:53, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, but that's a supplementary chart, meaning that if it's already peaked on a higher overall chart, we shouldn't mention that peak in the article. I was intending to elaborate on the "controversy" section–which it was why it was still in draftspace, it still required work. I hope we can resolve this, but several of your edits were quite destructive, which I took issue with. Sean Stephens (talk) 23:59, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Stop Bullying me
Stop bullying me or I will report you on Wikipedia. You constantly delete my valid additions backed by valid citations in every page. You nominated for deletion a valid page I created. Stop now or you will be reported; it's not ok to bully other users. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TubbyDubby (talk • contribs) 10:27, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not bullying you–and nominating your page for deletion is not a personal attack. I have explained, with detail, the problems with the content you've added (such as placing undue weight on a source, etc) and I have tried to seek a resolution with you, but to no avail. It's great that you're passionate about the stuff you're editing, I think that passion would be better channelled if you sought to understand Wikipedia's guidelines a little better. The producer in question fails key notability guidelines, which I explained in my deletion nomination and my reply to you on that page. I agree that it's not okay to bully other users; that's not what I'm doing and I'm sorry if I've given that impression at all. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect good, sourced content to remain i.e. the Australian, New Zealand and Irish chart peaks, which you've frequently tried to remove in an attempt to make mention of the other chart peaks; peaks which should not be included due to having ranked on a higher chart. Sean Stephens (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
 * (I did write "complement chart usage" earlier; that was an error, it should've read "component chart usage".) Sean Stephens (talk) 13:45, 5 May 2022 (UTC)

Things that make you think twice before you react.
I keep seeing your name slot, but don't really know you. What's your deal with you buddy? You a stoker bro? 201.175.211.37 (talk) 23:31, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure what I'm supposed to make of this indecipherable message, have I wronged you in some way? I'd appreciate an explanation, if you are able to string a sentence together that isn't nonsense. If you are a sockpuppet, particularly of the user I think you might be, just know I won't hesitate to report you. Sean Stephens (talk) 08:12, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

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Astrology (disambiguation)
Sean Stephens: The reason I placed the first two items in a group on the Astrology (disambiguation) page is because the third item was placed in the "Other" group. If we are not going to group the first two, the third should not be placed in an "other" group by itself. It begs the question, "other than what?", since there is not other grouping. I agree that such a small list does not require grouping, but the Astrology software also should not be set off in a group by itself. Just my thoughts on the matter. Thanks for the feedback on the curley apostrophes. OvertAnalyzer (talk) 02:19, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Well see, disambiguation pages aren't typically meant to include partial title matches in the main list, and as such, I moved it to a different section. Perhaps it'd be better covered in an In title bullet point in the "see also" section, as is commonplace? Sean Stephens (talk) 02:39, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * I think when I originally added Astrology software to the list, I had it in my mind that the name of the software was "Astrology". Given that the article is describing a type of software, I think you are right that it should be dropped from the list, especially since it will show up in the In title list anyway. OvertAnalyzer (talk) 16:45, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your reply. That's fair enough, I've made similar errors on disambiguation pages before. I was going to update the page with the new changes, but I see you already have, so thank you for that. Best wishes. Sean Stephens (talk) 01:48, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Todd Sampson


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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself. Liz Read! Talk! 01:19, 5 May 2023 (UTC)

Precious anniversary
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)

Category:Music videos shot in Newtown, New South Wales has been nominated for merging
Category:Music videos shot in Newtown, New South Wales has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 07:59, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

Category:Music videos shot in Fremantle has been nominated for merging
Category:Music videos shot in Fremantle has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. QuietHere (talk &#124; contributions) 08:00, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

"TBA template" listed at Redirects for discussion
The redirect [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=TBA_template&redirect=no TBA template] has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:05, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:David Walliams has been nominated for deletion
Category:David Walliams has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. -- wooden superman  14:12, 28 November 2023 (UTC)