User talk:Seb az86556/archive6

You're a dude!
I reckon you know more languages I don't than I know languages you don't. Erm, read that a few times and give up. It's probably more of my bad English. rofl. If only I didn't have a jolly chapter to give to my review board in the next week! I'm kind of doing my usual I-have-writer's-block-let's-try-beat'n-it-b'-doin'-summit-at-t'-Wiki thing. noooo, more bad English!

Hmmm, even if I can't make the five days, mate, I'm a gonna write this thing up, just for you. :))

PS DAB is perfect, tyvm! Alastair Haines (talk) 08:36, 3 December 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
It doesn't look like you actually submitted AntaineNZ/222.152.151.138 to SPI? Will you? In 222.152.151.138 signed as AntaineNZ in response to a comment clearly addressed to Rabka Uhalla as if it was addressed to AntaineNZ, which makes me wonder if the Rabka Uhalla account is also a sock puppet of this same user who is having trouble keeping track of which account they're logged into and who they're supposed to respond as. Шизомби (talk) 06:21, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Took a while. See here: Sockpuppet investigations/AntaineNZ Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 06:23, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Groovy. I do think it's possible Rabka Uhalla is another sock for the same user for the reason stated above, though it's possible AntaineNZ merely shares the same attitudes and inability (or pretended inability) to see what the problem is regarding the minarets or the post about toilet paper. Шизомби (talk) 06:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

South Africa
Firstly, could you please revert my accidental blanking of the article? It happens whenever I use the preview button on Opera Mini and the page is too big for me to revert.

Secondly, could you please look at the ENGLISH Constitution that's provided as a source, and then give your own official source with your so-called "English" names?

Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 07:49, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I use Webster's dictionary. Where did you learn English? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 08:34, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Webster is not a South African. Perhaps you might like to look at a relevant dictionary? The Oxford Dictionary of South African English, perhaps? Tebello TheWHAT!!?? 09:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
WOW!!!Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 17:40, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

User:Chromastoner and Ben 10 rocks
Hi there. Thanks for your message about that page, I deleted it. I'll try and keep an eye on this user, as he's obviously quite young. If you see any worrying edits, please let me know and I can take it on. Thanks. Ged UK  10:17, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
I appreciate your concern but I reverted my edits as I realized they were not vandalism. A8 UDI  04:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
 * OK Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 04:23, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Thank you!


Hello Seb az86556, HappyInGeneral has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Go on, smile! Cheers, and happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. Thank you for the quick reaction, much appreciated. --HappyInGeneral (talk) 10:02, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Tom Cilmi
Hello Seb az86556, and thanks for your work patrolling new changes. I am just informing you that I declined the speedy deletion of Tom Cilmi - a page you tagged - because: Elected politician is notable. Please review the criteria for speedy deletion before tagging further pages. If you have any questions or problems, please let me know. Ged UK  15:59, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I guess. Forgot if there was a citation for it or not. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 00:41, 14 December 2009 (UTC)

Joe Arpaio Article/ Vandalism Dispute
I see you've removed my the post and made vandalism claims against me. While I can understand what the situation looks like from your point of view, I must coax you to reconsider. The twelve or so paragraphs in question have been on the Arpaio page for months now. It was only recently (20:34, 2 December 2009) that the information was removed by the user WVbluefield. I encourage you to visit this user's page to get a better idea of his involvement. I did not author of any of this information. Those dozen paragraphs were posted by numerous different people, and WVbluefield removed them all. While some paragraph were lacking proper citation, I investigated them all, and all claims check out. Alot of the information innvolved a series of events that could not be cited from one publication. It would be like asking to cite a source for WWII, Watergate, or 9/11. I hope there was not a misunderstanding when I said in my post, "Previous editor deleted over a dozen paragraphs. Factual information removed without citation. Unquestionable user bias." When I said "Factual information removed without citation." I was saying factual information was removed and WVbluefield did not cite any reason why. You can see on the revision page yourself, WVbluefield deleted over a hundred lines of text and gave no justification. This information is totally appropriate and vital to this article. Major parts of this page detail Joe Arpaio's personal life, his career, election results, actions as county sheriff, tent city, and more. I had to make claims that there was a user bias because the paragraphs deleted were the contraversies surrounding his career. When somebody deletes twelve paragraphs, 100+ lines of text, of other peoples' work and this information is all correct, a red flag should go up. I think wikipedia is the most encompassing source of knowledge we have, and it is important this factual information is included. I did not write any of it, but when I realized somebody unjustly took down these people's work, I was obligated to correct it. Wvbluefield obviously does not like people talking bad about Joe Arpaio, but the contraveries surrounding him are constructive towards the article. Would you override me if I tried to repost the contraversies surrounding Nixon if somebody had taken them down? Those paragraphs have been on there for months with no issue until WVbluefield came along. WVbluefield is clearly bias in this situation, and seeing you're from Arizona I hope bias isn't influencing your decision either. I see from your track record you do a good job of regulating the wiki world. I hope in the interest of the free exchange knowledge you can understand how important it is that this information isn't removed. Keep on wiki'n. 99.155.62.144 (talk) 06:23, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The fact that unreferenced information remained for months is no excuse; do your research, cite every paragraph (or better yet, every sentence), and I won't object. As it stands, it cannot remain, and WVbluefield and others where correct in removing it. Reinserting unreferenced claims into a biography constitutes vandalism. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 06:38, 14 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Is this sock puppetry I see at Joe Arpaio, or just coordinated attack? Outback the koala (talk) 03:30, 17 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Iuno. I requested semi-protection. Quite a few people hate Joe, and they have their reasons (I live in his "reign" so I should know), but unreferenced stuff violates WP:BLP. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:33, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
 * As a side, socking unlikely, 99. is Texas, 75. is usually Arizona... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 03:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)

Speedy declined: Peak clutter
Hi! I have declined to delete Peak clutter, as it did not meet the criteria for WP:CSD. G1 is for incoherent articles, but this one was in coherent English. As there has been a small amount of notability referenced, I would suggest PROD/AFD/improve. Stephen! Coming... 10:08, 15 December 2009 (UTC)

Re:Reog (Ponorogo)
Hello Mr, sorry yes. I make like that as according to article content entitle Reog what shouldn't as according to its contents (evidence) because in wp.id Reog divided to become 2 shares such as those which as described in article which I have mentioned mentioned of version now but why version which the first oppositely;also do not nameboard ? Erik Evrest (talk) 10:03, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm afraid I don't understand your kind of English. It still is a copyright violation. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 10:12, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Oh, i'm sorry. I not meaning so. I only not yet too understand speaking English.Erik Evrest (talk) 22:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

Falun Gong
Ok I am new user, and I edited on Falun Gong earlier this morning, and you deemed my effect as vandalism. Can you tell me why and how should I edit the page in the future? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalRook (talk • contribs) 23:16, 19 December 2009 (UTC)


 * If you don't understand why this is vandalism, I don't think anyone can help you. But try reading WP:Neutral point of view to get an idea why it's not appropriate to write like that. r ʨ anaɢ talk/contribs 23:27, 19 December 2009 (UTC)

"let's say"?
What does "Let's say I'd want to learn the very basics of Coptic" mean? Do you want to learn the basics of Coptic or are you just speaking in the assumptive voice? -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  08:15, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The best book I know of is Learn Coptic. It's the one most of my friends use. You can get it for $30 on Amazon. Otherwise, just google it, and you'll find lots of websites that have basic Coptic lessons. It's pretty easy to learn. -- Ⲗⲁⲛⲧⲉⲣⲛⲓⲝ [talk]  08:20, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 14
You are invited to join the discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2009 December 14. The category is similar to Category:Members of the Family also known as the Fellowship which you recently commented on. --Kevinkor2 (talk) 09:41, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

Lies (Gone series)
I've declined the speedy here — it doesn't appear to be advertising to me — but I'll support a prod or an AFD if you want to follow either path. Nyttend (talk) 02:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Had it coming. Thanks. Done: Articles for deletion/Lies (Gone series). Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 02:55, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Re: Obama
Hey, thanks for taking care of the AFD situation. I had assumed that you were the one who nominated the other two articles; I had no idea someone else tacked it on to your AFD. Sorry if my tone was accusatory in any way toward you! :) —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  21:19, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Maybe you wouldn't mind weighing in at this new AFD if you get the chance]]... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  02:07, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Falsely accusing me and threatening me when your admin were responsible

 * I didn't vandalize anything. Your admin ryulong did. He DID IT. Him and that other admin treasurytag. THEY did it. You better check yourself and go back and straighten that out right now before you go threaten to ban me for something that ADMIN did.Wiki Greek Basketball (talk) 14:13, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw what I saw. Your actions are yours. I have already reported you for vandalism. I suggest you give it a break, they might let you off the hook. Or they might not. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 14:15, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I am telling you right now. If you do not stop this I will report it to the highest of highest at the site. Those two ryulong and treasurytag deleted and vanadlized several diffs I posted in a complaint. They did this numerous times. They also deleted the page history showing this. They then changed edits around and both of them kept hitting the send button and forced numerous edit conflicts. They then told you that I did it. I am telling you right now that I will not tolerate this and I will make sure that any admin that participated in this and/or banned me over this will be banned permanently from wikipedia. So I strongly suggest you use your brain on this.Wiki Greek Basketball (talk)
 * Nobody told me anything. To get some clarification: a) Are you threatening me? and b) Are you attacking me? If so, I suggest you stop doing so immediately. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 14:29, 25 December 2009 (UTC) Nevermind. Got yourself blocked I see.... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 14:36, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I'm enjoying this, it's just like Crossroads! ╟─ Treasury Tag ►  Captain-Regent  ─╢ 14:29, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Technically its his post
Hi, what do you mean by that? Off2riorob (talk) 15:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * He copied it over. TreasuryTag did not post it (not on his talkpage), and anyone can clearly see that... but ah well... maybe you're right. He's just kicking dirt right now. I don't see how he could ever get unblocked, one way or another. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:48, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
 * What a mess and a waste of a clean block log, lets hope he can get over it. Off2riorob (talk) 16:14, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

A7
Hi, just a quick note to say I changed your tag on Smolinski from "db-a7" to "db-band". If you wouldn't mind using the most specific tempalte available, it would be of great help to whatever admin comes to review it. All the best, HJMitchell    You rang?   19:39, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

Oops
I fixed the link to the ref you removed. I put in the same damn url. It now links to the correct part. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 15:13, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

kevin rudd visit
Hi, unfortunately I know next to nothing about Australian politics, so I wouldn't dare to start any action about any page involving that... all I know is that the "Kevin Rudd visit" was in a pretty horrible shape -- they didn't even say who this guy was or which country he was prime minister of! (I've tried to fix that.) So I'd definitely support a merge, only there's so little worth merging! -- Ekjon Lok (talk) 01:04, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * folow-up: I see you're doing good work, perhaps in the end it's worth keeping! -- Ekjon Lok (talk) 01:06, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Probably not, it's now cut down to the point where a merger is unavoidable; trouble is, I looked through all the relevant Australia-articles and wouldn't know where to merge it. I don't even think it's notable. I prodded it. We'll see what happens. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 01:08, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

please do not become disruptive
You are disruptive because if you had concerns, you should have discussed it first. My AFD is simply to create uniformity. It is also a suggestion to merge. Now that the cat is out of the bag (your AFD) things are happening this way.

The correct way is not to create drama on ANI but to leave a comment on the AFD and let discussion occur at the normal speed, not speedily delete. Please be calm and not disruptive. JB50000 (talk) 03:26, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * The first one was speedy keep now you're putting up the next one. Man... and please don't give me phony warnings. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:28, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

STOP be calm and follow rules
If you are opposed to the Obama assassination scares, discuss and if needed file an AFD. Wiping an article out and creating a redirect is not much different from blanking out an article. Please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:REDIRECT for instructions. Thank you. Don't be mad, just be calm and follow the rules! :)  JB50000 (talk) 03:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

An ANI post has been made to have administrators help explain the rules, it is not to tattle on you. JB50000 (talk) 03:33, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Follow the rules? well, you're the one who needs a lesson on rules here... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 03:34, 27 December 2009 (UTC)


 * I read the AFD rules and the redirect rules. That's also why I asked ANI for calm guidance, not fighting blanking out and restoring pages back and forth.  Let's try to resolve this calmly, ok? !   :) JB50000 (talk) 03:40, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

My newly proposed Obama article
Hey, it's Hunter. I've come up with a newly proposed "Barack Obama assassination threats" page that I think is in keeping with some of the discussion developing at the Hawaii AFD, and also is a fitting compromise to what JB50000 has proposed. I've brought this to JB50000's attention, and wanted to do the same to you. I think the guy has good intentions, but I think he's still early in developing an understanding of Wikipedia policies, and the way he's gone about this whole situation hasn't quite been ideal. I think my proposal could be a solution, but I didn't want to move it out of my userspace until I've reached out to him, to you and to the Hawaii AFD. Let me know what you think... —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  16:48, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Just after a quick glance I say it looks excellent; frankly, I have no strong opinions about the group of articles as a whole. My main objections in the whole mess where a) notability was (and still isn't) established for the Hawaii-deal to warrant a separate article and later on (b) mainly that proper procedure was not followed (JB's copy-pasting stuff rather than getting a real page-history merger going -- and thereby creating an article that does not conform with the current licenses/raises legal trouble). So, yeah, that new thing in your sandbox is great and with the links to Main article:, it won't destroy anything that already exists. I certainly won't prod or AfD that one, if that's your concern. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 17:06, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I didn't really have a concern one way or the other, I just want to be extra-extra-extra sure to develop some discussion and semblance of consensus before I move forward with it; I don't want to add to the mess that's been going on over the last few days. :) I'd like to wait to hear from JB50000 before I move forward. Thanks for your input! —  Hunter  Kahn  ( c )  17:09, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

InkHeart stuff
I believe all the files are:, , , and. Thanks. That will stop it somewhat, although InkHeart's actions go beyond just images. Ω pho  is  21:03, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You're right, I probably should have reduced them myself. However, given InkHeart's MO, I really wouldn't be surprised if she came back this week and started an edit war by reverting them back to the gigantic versions. Ω  pho  is  21:18, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Done. I'm expecting some warring, but at least we have something to revert back to. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 21:25, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
 * Okay. Thanks for your help. :) Ω  pho  is  21:27, 29 December 2009 (UTC)

Spam, horse feathers, and Happy New Year
Brief and trivial comment (noticing you were just before me, warning a spammer) ... The boilerplate message that you added reads "Because Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, additions of links to Wikipedia will not alter search engine rankings" Lovely, but technically incorrect, which is something that dedicated spammers are likely to know. "nofollow" does reduce the search value of a page, but there are tools that ignore the tag. I'd rather Wikipedia doesn't misrepresent, even in a good cause. Where would be the appropriate place to comment on this? Regards and Happy New Year, Piano non troppo (talk) 15:34, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * This template is automated in Twinkle. You could bring it up with the people who run that tool. Cheers! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:36, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
 * The templates are... lemme look... here: uw-spam1... has talkpages. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 > haneʼ 15:39, 31 December 2009 (UTC)