User talk:Sebastian Dobrowolski

IDF
Hi Sebastian Dobrowolski, You recently created an article on International Diving Federation which currently has no references and therefore is at risk of nomination for deletion as not meeting the notability criteria for Wikipedia. If you have reliable references which can support the notability of this organization, please list them as soon as possible. References do not have to be in English. They do have to be from reliable sources. Blogs, advertising and press releases from the organisation generally do not meet the requirements for establishing notability.

Please read Notability (organizations and companies) to understand what is required. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 14:26, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hi, I have to say I don't really get what was wrong in my article. I'd like to make such article for IDF as other suba training agencies have ( for ex https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Association_of_Nitrox_and_Technical_Divers). What exactly should i do to achieve this?

Regards Sebastian Dobrowolski (talk) 18:17, 26 June 2017 (UTC)


 * At the time that I left my original message, the article had no references at all. This is an encyclopedia written by a wide range of contributors, so there are established rules for what may be included. One of the main rules is that the topic must meet the criteria for notability. Another is that any claims must be verifiable, and that some claims, such as those used to establish notability, must be verifiable by a reliable third-party source. (secondary source). In some cases even a secondary source is not enough. For controversial and medical claims a tertiary source is required.
 * There is also the issue of conflict of interest. You uploaded the logo of IDF to Commons, claiming that it is your own work. This indicates that you are very closely associated with the organization and probably have a conflict of interest. It is considered bad form to create an article about you own organisation. If it is notable then someone who has no conflict of interest can create the article from information provided by reliable sources.
 * You can put in a request for article creation, but this will not happen if there are no reliable sources. If the organisation is recent and has not yet made an impact on the industry sufficient to be mentioned in the media, it will not get an article. Wikipedia is not an advertising agency. As I mentioned before, blogs, press releases from the organisation and other publicity releases do not establish notability by the Wikipedia standards. Cheers, &bull; &bull; &bull; Peter (Southwood) (talk): 04:21, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

Welcome!
Hello, Sebastian Dobrowolski, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Template:Diver training, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Proposed deletion of International Diving Federation


The article International Diving Federation has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Subject is not notable."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. RexxS (talk) 19:10, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

List of diver certification organizations
When you edited List of diver certification organizations, did you see the notice at the top of the first section that looked like this: What that means is that there has been a consensus reached at Talk:List of diver certification organizations that any entry in the list must meet at least one of six criteria that show the organisation is recognised as a certification agency. As far as I can see, the International Diving Federation is not recognised by any of the major bodies such as CMAS, EUF, WRSTC, nor by any national government, so I have removed it from the list. --RexxS (talk) 19:34, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Please don't add entries to this list unless they have       *
 * a citation to an independent reliable source.                *
 * See the discussion at:                                       *
 * Talk:List of diver certification organizations *
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 * Talk:List of diver certification organizations *

Nomination of International Diving Federation for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article International Diving Federation is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/International Diving Federation until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. RexxS (talk) 10:13, 27 June 2017 (UTC)

June 2017
Welcome to Wikipedia. Please do not remove Articles for deletion notices from articles, or remove other people's comments in Articles for deletion debates, as you did with International Diving Federation. Otherwise, it may be difficult to create consensus. If you oppose the deletion of an article, please comment at the respective page instead. Thank you. RexxS (talk) 10:20, 27 June 2017 (UTC)