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Trail Life USA
I undid your edit to Trail Life USA as it was not encyclopedic. i.e. too promotional and use of wp:puffery. Please use an encyclopedic wp:tone. PThank you Jim1138 (talk) 04:23, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Trail Life USA is a Christian outdoor adventure, character building, and leadership development organization for boys and men up to age 25.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Membership is open to boys regardless of religion, race, national origin or socioeconomic status.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Boys in grades K-12 are grouped into three programs: Woodland Trails, Navigators, and Adventurers.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Men 18-25 participate in the Guidon program.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Trail Life USA is "unapologetically Christian"[6][7] and requires affirmation of orthodox Christian values by its troop leadership structure.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: All chartering organizations and adult leaders must agree with, sign, and abide by a Statement of Faith that affirms, in part, a Trinitarian god.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Mormon and Jehovah's Witness denominations, neither which affirms a Trinitarian god, would be disqualified from chartering a Trail Life USA troop.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: The organization's Membership Standards outlines additional precepts, including restriction of sexual activity to partners within a heterosexual marriage.

This sounds encyclopedic to me: Adult leaders or youth who practice or affirm homosexuality would be in violation of the organization's Membership Standards.

Could you be more specific about which parts you have a problem with?

I understand there is overlap with the TLUSA website but if it describes itself as X how do you describe it as something X without it sounding like X? The current state of the introduction is horrific. It does not describe in any meaningful way what the actual entity Trail Life USA is. I was trying to give the entry that meaning. Thanks for reconsidering.

Seefrank (talk) 04:58, 12 June 2016 (UTC)


 * The first section reads like ad copy. Christian outdoor adventure, character building, and leadership development organization - this is source by the group themselves. This is a wp:primary source and should not be used for this kind of information. Please use a wp:reliable source (RS) Adult leaders or youth who practice or affirm homosexuality would be in violation of the organization's Membership Standards. Wouldn't "Anti-gay" be a less wordy statement? Much of this text are wp:weasel words.

Jim1138 (talk) 05:14, 12 June 2016 (UTC)

Okay, thanks. I'll make adjustments to provide wp:reliable sources and remove wp:weasel words.

Seefrank (talk) 13:13, 12 June 2016 (UTC)