User talk:SeikoEn

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Welcome to Wikipedia, SeikoEn! I have been editing Wikipedia for quite some time. I just wanted to say hi and welcome you to Wikipedia! If you have any questions, feel free to leave me a message on or by typing helpme at the bottom of this page. I love to help new users, so don't be afraid to leave a message! I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful: I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Oh yeah, I almost forgot, when you post on talk pages you should sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); that should automatically produce your username and the date after your post. If you need help, check out Questions, ask me on, or place helpme on your talk page and ask your question there. Again, welcome! Onevalefan talk  21:49, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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Thank you for offering your help! --SeikoEn (talk) 22:27, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Kievan Rus
I'm making a map of Kievan Rus just now. Hellerick (talk) 15:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

If you make the more precises map of the same state, you can put it on the site, but till then leave the map of Kiev Rus on the site. It is not nice to make erase with out of explanation! --SeikoEn (talk) 15:51, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

You can do a good exame on this site before you put something new: http://izbornyk.org.ua/litop/map_980_1054.htm. --SeikoEn (talk) 15:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I already told you why that map is unacceptable: it's biased, historically doubtful, and isn't well made. And I don't understand why you show me the map on Izbornyk website. Yeah, it's a correct and good map, I would not mind it to be posted here if it were in English. But why you keep on posting a bad file instead?
 * As for the names, go to the articles Kiev and Kievan Rus' — those names were chosen for Wikipedia.
 * If you see something wrong on the map I translated — just tell me what it is.Hellerick (talk) 16:59, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I have only one sentence for you: STOP rusification of ukrainian history! --SeikoEn (talk) 18:30, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

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Kievan Rus
Hi

There has been somne problems previously with your edits. Now you have edited the Ukraine page to remove any record of the Keivan Rus in the West and have limited them to the north only.

Your comment "Stop the Russification of Ukraine" is not related to Kievan Rus I hope. The Kievan Rus and other Rus were the start of the Ukrainian and Russian countries and there should be no shame in that.

This is against everything in the other articles on the Kievan Rus. I have reverted your edits and to continue you must do so by discussing such big changes on the Ukraine talk page.

Chaosdruid (talk) 19:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * As I said - discuss on the article talk page please, not my talk page, before making those changes. There are many editors to the Ukrainian articles that would need to see this so I will copy it to there.
 * Also you have put the edits back in again without discussing on the talk page. Edits that are massively contraversial, such as yours, should be discussed first after another editor has challenged them before being replaced. I have already asked another editor to look and assess if my reversions were in fact correct and would appreciate it if you did not revert them again - until they have been discussed on the article talk page.
 * (copied to users talk page and Ukraine talk page )Chaosdruid (talk) 20:48, 14 August 2010 (UTC)


 * Thank you for that change in the montage of peoples of Ukraine - It is important to remember that this is the English WIkipedia and so Cyrillic writing is not going to be understood by many readers.
 * Chaosdruid (talk) 14:07, 15 August 2010 (UTC)

talkback
reply to message on my talkpage--Lerdthenerd (talk) 15:39, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

reply to new message--Lerdthenerd (talk) 17:29, 25 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Please ask me on my page here if you have some questions? Thanks! --SeikoEn (talk) 10:49, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

photos
the problem is that the article is about the ukrainian diaspora - ethnic ukrainians. By showcasing people from Ukraine who are absolutely not part of the diaspora...well...it just doesnt make sense--Львівське (talk) 22:18, 23 December 2010 (UTC) well obviusly those that you mentioned belong to this article, they are part of the diaspora. Also, there is an article called Ukrainians in Russia dealing specifically with just this.--Львівське (talk) 14:07, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Lots of these people aren't Ukrainian and have zero relation to its peoples or land. Putting a picture of Sergei Gonchar in an article about the Ukrainian diaspora is just plain silly.--Львівське (talk) 08:25, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

File on commons
Hi

Unfortunately I tried to hint, and have now requested here, that the text on the image may be copyright to that website so must be removed from the image. As yet and you have not taken it off.

I have to warn you that the file will be nominated for deletion unless action is taken to remove that text.

Chaosdruid (talk) 20:13, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your message on WikiCommons. I have replied there. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:33, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Maps
Hi

I wondered if you might have time to do me two favours:

I am collecting a set of maps of the history of Ukraine, the East Slavs and prior to that. At the moment I have my gallery set up at User:Chaosdruid/documentsofinterest/Ukraine. I have looked at the Commons image galleries, like this one, but there are so mnay that are in a variety of styles in the category as well as many that are uncategorised. Do you perhaps have time to make me a list of all the maps you have made that cover from the earliest times of the Cucuteni, through the East Slav and through to Ukrainian independence?

(I would make my own versions but my CorelDraw is too old and will not load or work properly on Vista 64 :¬( I cannot afford a new version unfortunately)

The second favour is that this map needs converting to English - - any ideas on whether you might be able to do it? Chaosdruid (talk) 06:22, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

re: your message
Hi SeikoEn, I've left a reply to your message about Pope John Paul II on my talk page -- Marek. 69  talk  15:43, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

If I could make a suggestion, it may be a good idea to move the discussion from my talk page onto the article's talk page, so others may comment. -- Marek. 69  talk  15:51, 7 June 2011 (UTC)

Re: Ukrainians
Hi Seiko, please go to the noticeboard for geopolitical ethnic and religious conflicts. Thanks. Graham 87 07:43, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

EDit suggestion
Hi

I have already asked you what you think was wrong with my edit's first sentence (look at the last message in the section above the suggested edits), and then asked you to say exactly how it could be improved.

I have also removed my name from your suggested edit (no. 4). I appreciate that you are trying to amalgamate them all, but my suggested text is no. 1 and has been altered to add suggestions, presently at draft 2. I think perhaps you are slightly misunderstanding the way we were doing that, mine is no. 1 as it was the first added, not because it was the first version. No. 2 is not no. 1 changed slightly, it is the second one added. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:54, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

Maps and copyvios
Hi

I thought we had solved the copyvios on the maps with text, unfotunately it seems that they were not fixed.

The latest to be inserted into an article was File:Kievan Rus' historical map 980 1054.jpg (copyvio is from )

Please go through your maps and remove these copyvios. I really do not want such lovely maps to be deleted, but if they are not revised to remove the text that is what might well happen. Chaosdruid (talk) 22:59, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

September 2011
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to User talk:Voyevoda with this edit, did not appear to be constructive, and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and read the welcome page to learn more about contributing constructively to this encyclopedia. Thank you. Aranea Mortem (talk to me) 16:09, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

May I add that deletion of information sourced by serious scientific works can be interpreted as vandalism and be sanctioned by the admins. --Voyevoda (talk) 19:03, 15 September 2011 (UTC)

Warning
Your aggressive national battleground attitude expressed here and in related edits is disruptive and not acceptable on this project.

Blocked for 48hrs
- Mailer Diablo 10:44, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * This request is maybe out of date, but stil one user is erased without reason?! For now I realy don't have time for wiki bureaucracy ... --SeikoEn (talk) 06:56, 19 September 2011 (UTC)

Etymology
I'm writing to you because of the article Ukrainians. The "frontier" version is by far the most accepted by the global community and plausible version. That's why I will insist on the keeping of this version on the first place. Your attempts to push marginal theories of obscure and unprofessional historians will meet my strongest resistance. Particularily, since claims of Pivtorak can be directly disproved by Gaida, but not vice versa. If you want a long and eventually embarassing for yourself public process, I'm ready for it. --Voyevoda (talk) 19:35, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Where is your source of Sklyarenko? Your own second source states: "Назва Україна, — єдина тепер назва території, заселеної українським народом, — слов’янського походження й означала первісно »пограниччя«, »окраїну«, »пограничну країну«" [..] "І в кінці XV ст. й на початку XVI ст. широко вживали слова Україна на означення пограниччя, а мешканців тих »україн« (як, напр., подільської, волинської чи брацлавської) називали »україніянами« або »українниками«. [..] З розвитком Козаччини назва Україна поволі втрачає значення пограниччя й стає географічною назвою, спершу для Центральних Українських Земель (півд. частин Київщини й Брацлавщини. It directly disproves Pivtorak that Ukraina is not Okraina. Your own sources contradict each other! --Voyevoda (talk) 09:58, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I've answered you at my discussion page. --Voyevoda (talk) 08:16, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

You guys are going to have to hash this out.--Львівське (говорити) 08:17, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

Look up
In the section above I brought you a citation about etymology, you still didn't answer, it is one month old. You want to keep your text with such a behaviour? --Voyevoda (talk) 20:59, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Topic-banned
Please see further details and explanation at Talk:Ukrainians. Under the discretionary sanctions rule of WP:DIGWUREN, and in keeping with earlier warnings (see above on this page), you are topic-banned indefinitely from all edits (both article edits and discussion) relating to Ukraine. Fut.Perf. ☼ 21:42, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Your actions are entirely justified. I made a few edit mistakes because I have not devoted attention to other users corrections. I'll be completely honest with you because you did your job very professionally. My latest changes were related only to Ukrainians because I didn't wanted to allow users such as Voyevoda to sabotage the site. I must admit, that for further work on Wikipedia I'm not interested. Unhonest user and provocator Voyevoda is the reason why am I still here. Before that, I've always tried to do my job professionally, for examplle this is my work: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Ukrainians_Ukraine_english_version.jpg, or maybe this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Kievan_Rus%27_Kyivan_Rus%27_early_formation_862_912.jpg ... Sources, facts and names are law for me, but Wikipedia is in realy big mess because of users such as Voyevoda - there is no even political opinions but a pure provocation and hatred of Ukrainians national selfindetification (postcolonial problem). I am grateful for what you have intervened! Best regards!--SeikoEn (talk) 07:11, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately you still have not removed the copyvio text from some of those files, hence the deletions notices I have placed today. If you really are "Sources, facts and names are law for me" then please explain why you think it is ok to plagiarise and copyvio directly from www.encyclopediaofukraine.com, even though I have asked you several times to clean up those images by removing the text? Chaosdruid (talk) 12:56, 3 February 2012 (UTC)

Other users
One more thing, in my opinion Lvivske and Galassi are realy not responsible for edit war situation. And, it seems to me that Greyhood only supports Voyevoda's russian position, but still isn't responsible for edit war as Voyevoda. Thanks!--SeikoEn (talk) 07:42, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Possibly unfree File:Map of Kiev Rus'.png
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