User talk:Senkino

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Hello, Senkino, and welcome to Wikipedia!&#32;Thank you for your contributions.

I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Draft:Sergey Semenov (Producer), which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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One rule we do have in connection with conflicts of interest is that accounts used by more than one person will unfortunately be blocked from editing. Wikipedia generally does not allow editors to have usernames which imply that the account belongs to a company or corporation. If you have a username like this, you should request a change of username or create a new account. (A name that identifies the user as an individual within a given organization may be OK.)

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COI response

 * Hello, @Mikehawk10, thanks for your hospitality. I do not represent this person and I would love to save this article as a draft for further edits to complete. It would be nice if you help me to save it as a draft and when all my edits are done, I would publish it Senkino (talk) 00:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Hi Senkino! Have you ever served in an official position as a photographer for Sergey Semenov, or has he ever done a photo shoot with you? I noticed that you uploaded this picture and marked it as your own work. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 00:28, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I got the idea. You mean there may happen conflicts of interests in the matter of rights of this photo, right? I took this photo from Sergey Semenov official website ( https://sergeysemenov.ru ). So I need to change the file licensing at wikimedia, right? Senkino (talk) 00:39, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes. You're going to need to provide a valid license over on Commons; I don't immediately see one that's compliant, and since the individual is alive I'd be hesitant to claim fair use. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:03, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * @Mikehawk10 thanks for your assistance! Which type of license do you advise me to change the picture to in this case? Senkino (talk) 01:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * In this case, it looks like the photograph is copyrighted. I can't find a free license for the photograph listed on Semenov's website, so it probably has to be deleted from commons because Commons takes copyright issues very seriously. I'm trying to figure out if photos in a labeled press kit can be uploaded to Commons or, if not, if they can be uploaded locally to English Wikipedia. For now, I'd try to look for a photograph of the individual with a free license; I can't find one immediately, though it's possible that someone has posted an image of him on Flickr with an appropriate license or that he's streamed a video on Youtube under a CC-BY-SA license. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:14, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * After consulting a little bit off-wiki with knowledgeable people, press kit photos still need to explicitly have a free license listed to be uploaded to Wikipedia. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:16, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * This photo is used by Sergey Semenov on his official Youtube artist channel as an avatar. Senkino (talk) 01:25, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * https://www.youtube.com/sergeysemenov this is an artist channel Senkino (talk) 01:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * So in this case you recommend me to search for this (or another) photo over Flickr? And then embed to wikimedia? Senkino (talk) 01:23, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * In this case I'd recommend that you search for another photo and then upload it to Wikimedia Commons if you can find one with a free license. — Mikehawk10 (talk) 01:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your assistance, @Mikehawk10. I would try to search for it in other open sources or just another photo. Senkino (talk) 01:38, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * It looks like the photo is now accepted as properly licensed. Good work on fixing that!  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:04, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

help request 1
Hello again, @Mikehawk10. I would love to ask you several questions on the topic of your notification. About conflicts of interests that you mentioned. The fact is that my username doesn't represent a company or corporate. It represents official stage name of Sergey Semenov (Senkino). This record exists in wikidata right now and doesn't appear in published article for now. The rules of Wikipedia even recommend using official stage names as usernames when creating biography pages, excluding cases of promotional type of articles. In the case of Sergey Semenov (producer) article there's no promotion and even not planned in future. I don't promote neither further releases, nor any spam links. Only Sergey Semenov's biography and personal website, which consist of only one bio homepage without any promotions. So, I would like to ask your expert point of view and best practices on this case. Thanks in advance. senkino (talk) 03:25, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There seem to be a couple of points of confusion here.
 * If you are not Sergey Semenov, then using his stage name as your user name implies that you are impersonating him on Wikipedia. That's not going to be allowed.
 * If you are Sergey Semenov, then using the stage name as a user name is allowed, but you must disclose the connection on your user page, given that you are contributing to a page about yourself. Further, you are expected to make no further direct edits to the page; instead, when you see something that should be changed, put an edit request on the talk page.
 * I can't imagine where you got the idea that the "rules of Wikipedia" suggest using a stagename as a username in any situation. If a person is most commonly known by their stage name, then the article title for them should use it rather than their birth name or some other name. That's a policy called WP:COMMONNAME.
 * Also, the referencing for the current Sergey Semenov (producer) article is so inadequate, in particular with respect to inline citations and WP:notability that I will be sending it back to draft space.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:15, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * — jmcgnh, First, thank you for such a prompt help!
 * I am Sergey Semenov and Senkino is my real stage name which is linked through both official websites (sergeysemenov.ru and senkino.com).
 * Main goal of this Sergey Semenov article is to (very accurately) collect information from all external databases and provide it to Wikidata, Commons and link it together.
 * This is neutral and very raw for now, i suppose. You're absolutely right that this article is incomplete and must be developed in Draft, then Submitted for professional review.
 * On topic of your question "I can't imagine where you got the idea that the "rules of Wikipedia" suggest using a stagename as a username" I found Username policy > Other particular types of username Stage names. Please, be kind to explain if i misunderstood something.
 * The reason why i decided to create an article Sergey Semenov first, instead of Senkino is that there are two music profiles in streamings and the music is slightly different. And as a result, Google glues both into one (but it needs to be just a bit separate, like "member of")..
 * Anyway, I would follow your above/below instructions and try to modify an article to fit best practices you mentioned.
 * Thanks again for your help! Is there something i could give thanks? I mean, what are the best wiki practices to give thanks?) Senkino (talk) 06:11, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Regarding stage names as usernames, I guess the difference is between "allowed" and "suggested". Yes, in cases like yours, they are allowed.
 * My own longstanding view is that most wishes of "thanks" on online forums are just extra noise that we have to wade through. Maybe that's curmudgeonly or even impolite on my part, but if you want to thank me, I'd prefer that you simply "pay it forward" and help someone else.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 06:35, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * — jmcgnh, your longstanding view can't be wrong. it's not impolite, on the contrary. But wouldn't it violate wiki rules in a matter of "paid article/paid help"? sorry for stupid question. just a bit cautious. Ok, i would love to "simply pay it forward". We're not 60s hippies, right? Waiting for your "pay it forward" instructions. Senkino (talk) 06:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Now you've caused me to read more at pay it forward and it's not just a 60s hippies phrase.
 * Perhaps you do not have enough experience to help someone else on Wikipedia right now, but you may get there soon. I don't see any conflict about paid editing in using this phrase. The overwhelming majority of editors on Wikipedia are volunteers, some of whom bristle at the idea that there are people who accept money to edit, taking advantage of the volunteers' efforts for their own gain. We all started as beginners at some point and other editors helped us along.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 07:48, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * — jmcgnh )))) i am very fond of your truly English sense of humour! Thanks a lot. I’m at my starting point, you are very discerning. But I will do my best to get there where all wikipedians are. I noticed that many wiki users are proud of bright stars on their user pages. That’s why i guessed there must be some thanksgiving codex. But on the other hand, I noticed that you’re not that kind of person. So i got a bit confused.. Senkino (talk) 08:20, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * — jmcgnh, how do you advise me to build my User page with nickname as a stage name? Could you navigate me please? Maybe there exist such templates for these cases? Leaving it blank is not a good decision, i guess. I’m really interested in developing not only my page, but contribute other wiki projects. Senkino (talk) 08:35, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * User pages are usually optional and could be left blank - except when you are a person required to disclose your conflict of interest. In your case, I would advise placing a statement similar to: "I am Sergey Semenov and Senkino is my stage name." That's all that would be needed to satisfy the disclosure requirement. The bracketed name might eventually need to be adjusted if there are other people with the same name with articles on Wikipedia, but - as best I can tell - there aren't any others right now. You can also use any of the methods at WP:DISCLOSECOI, but I recommend this route because using the templates lacks nuance.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 03:29, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

help request 2
@Mikehawk10, Besides this, what are best practices of having user pages with official stage name? Should it be confidential, or I should better show this information straightforward on my user pages in all wiki websites? …And one more thing: This article is the very basic neutral raw for others who like my music to contribute. I appreciate Wikipedia rules and not going to make subjective promotional material. Thanks again for your assistance. Senkino (talk) 03:35, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
 * You seem not to appreciate how strongly Wikipedia discourages promotional contributions. We have conflict-of-interest polices because, through experience, we so often see a person who is writing about themselves or some subject they have a close connection to, is completely incapable of writing neutrally. You are allowed to create a draft. You are not allowed to move that draft to article space and, once it becomes an article, you are expected to use edit requests on the talk page rather than edit the article directly.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:26, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Sergey Semenov (producer) moved to draftspace
An article you recently created, Sergey Semenov (producer), is not suitable as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of " " before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Actually, I think the music notability guidelines should be applied, WP:NBAND, and not just GNG.  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:18, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

AfC notification: Draft:Sergey Semenov (producer) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sergey Semenov (producer). Thanks!  — jmcgnh (talk) (contribs) 05:20, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Sergey Semenov (producer)
Hello, Senkino. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Sergey Semenov (producer), a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again&#32;or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 06:01, 2 May 2022 (UTC)