User talk:Senor Freebie

Battle of Brisbane
I suggest it is not productive to respond to or engage with IP 36. Cinderella157 (talk) 13:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
 * I have been explicitly warned for treating them as any different to other contributors, so I'm doing my best to respond to their actions in that vein, as I'm concerned that I will be banned if I do not.--Senor Freebie (talk) 15:47, 3 March 2017 (UTC)

I suggest that responding serves no good purpose except to escalate the matter. What is done, is done for all to see. IMO Cinderella157 (talk) 23:51, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
 * You're probably right. I feel as if they've been trying to bait me into an over-reaction the entire time, especially with the accusations of vandalism, and it's this behaviour that provoked the moderators into rash decisions.--Senor Freebie (talk) 04:31, 18 April 2017 (UTC)

April 2017
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to Radiation effects from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use the sandbox for that. Thank you. VQuakr (talk) 08:13, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to blank out or remove portions of page content, templates, or other materials from Wikipedia without adequate explanation, as you did at Radiation effects from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster, you may be blocked from editing. ''You are creating drama where there needn't be any. Rather than deleted cited content, get consensus for your proposed changes first.'' VQuakr (talk) 15:54, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Those are false accusations and personal attacks.--Senor Freebie (talk) 15:14, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * No, your accusation of a personal attack is spurious. You are demonstrably removing cited content. VQuakr (talk) 19:52, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia, as you did at Radiation effects from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster. Garzfoth (talk) 10:17, 27 April 2017 (UTC)

Notice
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Senor Freebie. VQuakr (talk) 17:08, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
 * It's interesting that you've dug into my history, to find the Battle of Brisbane incident. I wonder if you dug far enough to find out that in that case, the administrators ended up taking further action against the person I was attempting to protect the article from. Additionally; I note that you've doubled down on your personal attacks by making insinuations about my behaviour being at issue, while (presumably) deliberately misrepresenting the course of events. I'm happy to work with other users to help to improve that article, but you really need to drop the stick, and give up ownership of the content.--Senor Freebie (talk) 12:29, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
 * Your behavior is quite obviously "the issue". That is neither a personal attack nor ownership. VQuakr (talk) 18:35, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Information
It's important that you understand that there is no such thing as a unilateral edit war. There are exceptions to the three revert rule but they are few and narrowly defined. Your edits at Radiation effects from the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear disaster do not meet the requirements for exemption. I wanted to make sure you were aware of this information going forward.  Tide  rolls  20:41, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

3RR warning
There is a WP:3RR limit which you appear to be in potential breach of. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes&diff=856944406&oldid=856523362  10:53 on 28 August,   https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes&diff=857058607&oldid=856980016   4:31 on 29 August,  https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes&diff=857109263&oldid=857109010   12:41 on 29 August.

In short, even the second revert might be a problem for you. I urge you to instantly self-revert at this point. Collect (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you.

August 2018
You have been blocked from editing for a period of 31 hours for making personal attacks towards other editors. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. regentspark (comment) 20:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Further; please note the following warning provided for the unprovoked personal attack by another user, who appears to be backing user Collect's apparently bad faith edit warring; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ATheTimesAreAChanging&type=revision&diff=857138456&oldid=857061550--Senor Freebie (talk) 14:42, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * WP:NOTTHEM. --Yamla (talk) 14:44, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * On their side of the argument. I did not say that it was them. They commented specifically on this personal attack; claiming that it was not one.--Senor Freebie (talk) 02:44, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

I strongly disagree with your reply to my unblock request, that you deleted from my talk page and I will outline why below. I ask you to specifically address the points I raise, rather than just making pronouncements; something I already asked for, and something you have consistently refused to do in the past.

"Your edit linked by Yamla was a clear personal attack."

It was not. I was referring to another discussion. I did not make the accusation. I simply referred to it. Address this fact.

"That you do not appear to grasp that is deeply disturbing."

It is a statement about a position. It is not a direct insult or personal attack. You need to read the definition of a personal attack.

"And then there is this edit summary which is yet another personal attack and breach of WP:AGF."

User collect claimed that a clear personal attack against me, was not one prior to those comments. That they went from denying the existence of a personal attack that was clear as day, that a user that supported their position made, to having me blocked for asking for allegations of anti-semitism to be addressed, gives solid reason, under the guidelines of WP:AGF to assume bad faith. Address this.

"And lastly I am reminded of your abuse of NPA during the discussion of the Battle of Brisbane article that required me to block you (twice!). Any further such attacks will result in a swift block. Any further such attacks posted on your talk page or in edit summaries while blocked and I will revoke your TPA."

You mean where I pointed out that someone engaged in an edit war was vandalising a page, to remove content that to this day, remains in the article? I suggest you revisit the discussion on that matter. And I suggest you address the fact that in both cases, you are assuming personal attacks, where there were none, in defense of extreme right wing positions. This appears to be a fairly strong breach of WP:NPOV.--Senor Freebie (talk) 04:50, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

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Nick Fuentes dispute
Hello, your reasoning for your reversion at Nick Fuentes is not valid. First, there is no policy stating the words used in wiki pages must be exact same as the source material. Secondly, the source provided shows all of the three things you take issue with: the encounter itself, the footage taken, and the criticism that ensued. I am re adding the sentence, if you still desire to have it removed please go to the talk page, and do not edit war. Nigel Abe (talk) 19:39, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Why did you make this comment here, rather than on the talk page?--Senor Freebie (talk) 03:54, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Michelle Malkin
Re this unrevert by you -- the reason given for the revert was: WP:BLPEL: ; the reason I gave for the unrevert was. Both of those snippets are quotes from WP:BLPEL, which is part of the WP:BLP policy -- the primary objective of which is to protect the privacy of living persons mantioned in WP articles -- in this case, Malkin. BLPEL there mentions WP:BLPSELFPUB; I checked that before unreverting and it seemed to me that that the link you had removed was within those criteria. There's a question re whether this is the best place in that article for a link to the subject's website, but that's not within the scope of the reasons given. This was a drive-by edit on my part, though, and I'm not up for the in-depth discussion about it that you call for in your unrevert, so I will just let this lie. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 08:58, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the note! I didn't catch that policy. I think that this does make it clear that someone's self-published articles or websites can be used as a source for various information about them, where little doubt of the accuracy of that information exists, but the note about external links seems to indicate that this is not the place for it. It appears that you've come to that conclusion to, so I guess this matter is closed.--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:03, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

Important Notice
Doug Weller talk 11:52, 27 April 2020 (UTC)

ANI 17 May 2020
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Mztourist (talk) 05:49, 17 May 2020 (UTC)

Block notice
You have been blocked temporarily from editing for abuse of editing privileges. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Deb (talk) 14:58, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Can I get an explanation??--Senor Freebie (talk) 02:00, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I just found out that the possible sockpuppet of Mztourist deleted a substantial amount of my reply to the request on the administrators page, so you probably lacked a large amount of context about this dispute. Please review this edit and the content that was deleted: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=957165685&oldid=957154915
 * And please consider an investigation into the relationship between those users.


 * Hopefully a timeline of this dispute will help explain why I disagreed with Deb's edit summarised as; "restore last version before edit warring began".


 * 1. I added a statement about the war crimes in the Phoenix Program
 * 2. Mztourist undid this edit stating that it was not sourced.
 * 3. I added sources.
 * 4. Mztourist complained that sources should be in another location in the article, and undid edit 3.
 * 5. Edit warring continued from this point forward.
 * 6. Mztourist has ceased responding to the talk page and has instead gone to the administrators noticeboard, making a number of false claims which I addressed.
 * 7. A user who is regularly found working with Mztourist and agreeing with them on administrative matters deleted my refutation of their claims.
 * 8. Deb reverted to edit 1. which was not the origin of "edit warring"
 * 9. I undid their edit explaining this fact.
 * 10. Deb blocked me for what I view as a good faith edit.


 * Oh, and you need to stop making attacks on editors who disagree with you, so knock off with the "possible sockpuppet of Mztourist" and the "user who is regularly found working with Mztourist and agreeing with them on administrative matters" stuff please. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:53, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I would like an admin other than Boing! said Zebedee to comment on this, as I have previously encountered you and believe your judgement to be biased when it comes to me.
 * I also would like to point out that at the time of my previous edit, the matters that Boing! said Zebedee raised had already been addressed, and I would like that acknowledged. Deb's edit reverted to content that was not disputed on the talk page. And it is in my view **deeply** problematic that the edit of the administrative noticeboard that I highlighted above has not been commented on.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:27, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Of course, you are welcome to make a new unblock request and someone else will review it. And please accept my apologies, as I had forgotten our previous interaction from more than three years ago (which I assume is the one you mean). I've interacted with so many people since then that it's impossible for me to remember everyone I'm supposed to be biased against. It does not, however, forbid me from taking admin action now. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, and assuming the ANI edit is the one in which you interspersed your responses inside someone else's comment - that disrupts the presentation of their comment, and is pretty much frowned upon. The appropriate response would have been to re-add your response as a separate comment below. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:43, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Apology not accepted. I am a casual editor of Wikipedia. I attempt to contribute and discuss matters in good faith, and the majority of my edits are seen as constructive and end up in articles until someone improves on them. On occasion I have come across editors who are possessive of articles, and this was one of those instances, as was the last time I interacted with you. And rather than action being taken against them for basically using administrative procedures to fight what were minor, and uncontroversial edits that went against their biases, I've been the one who has had to spend an enormous amount of time replying to people who routinely refuse to even address the core points in my replies. Whether it's deliberate or not, you've twice now fed into this feeling of disillusionment in the structure of the Wikipedia project; whereby someone with the necessary time, motivation, and knowledge of procedures can totally avoid making coherent arguments, either on the talk page, or in edit summaries, and just get admins to do their dirty work.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Erm, it was a joke/sarcastic apology, so sorry for that (but this one's genuine). Anyway, you know how to make a new unblock request if you want. And, as I say, someone else will review it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:53, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It doesn't surprise me at all that you were being uncivil and impolite while not taking abuses of the platform you're supposed to police seriously. --Senor Freebie (talk) 12:16, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

Warning
I don't know if you're going to make a new unblock request or not, but I have another warning for you. I have just read the dialogue at Talk:Phoenix Program, and I see personal attacks from you, again. As one example, the accusation that "you don't like the factual view that massacring unarmed civilians is a war crime" is an absolutely unacceptable slur. Having refreshed my memory of the events of 2017, this is exactly the same kind of behaviour you were sanctioned for back then, and I told you then that if you do not stop you will be stopped. I also see that in the intervening time, you received another block for making personal attacks, and really quite serious ones. I repeat the warning - the next time I see a personal attack from you, you are getting a long block, possibly indefinite. Change the way you interact with people, or your days as a Wikipedia editor will end. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:01, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
 * How is that a personal attack, let alone a slur? The previous instance with you, which I'll remind you, you apologised for, involved you making the undefended claim that I made personal attacks then. You have a habit of making that claim about me, without backing it up, and you have a habit of refusing to engage in discussion, or address points that I raise. You seem to think that your opinion is above reproach, and that you can sanction me in any way you see fit without having to explain or defend your actions. This is precisely why I already pointed out that I think that you behave in a manner not appropriate for your position.--Senor Freebie (talk) 09:49, 25 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Also; https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&oldid=955873981#Editor_doesn't_care_about_MOS_edits,_but_reverts_them_on_the_basis_of_being_%22unnecessary_changes%22 - it's going to be pretty interesting seeing how the other administrators respond to this dispute once I'm unblocked. Given the user at the center of it has been reprimanded in the last month for the precise behaviour that they have used you to enforce against me.--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * My warning is solely about *your* behaviour towards others, which has been atrocious. It is nothing to do with the actual disputes or how they will work out, and is not in any way related to the behaviour of others. It's *your* behaviour, nothing else. And my warning stands. If you don't change your approach of making personal attacks against those with whom you are in a dispute (and if you can't see why the accusation I highlighted above is a personal attack, then I really don't think I can help you) then you should expect escalating blocks. And if you think I don't behave in a manner appropriate for my position, I invite you to make a report at WP:AN when your current block expires and I will stand down as an admin if the community thinks I should. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 11:08, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Senor Freebie, I would just remind you that the user of whom you complain had a warning from me at the same time you did. He abided by the warning, you didn't. That is why you were blocked and he wasn't. Deb (talk) 10:56, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the warning, just like you didn't see the contents of the dispute that had been removed by one of the subjects of my complaints. Thanks for letting me know about it now though.--Senor Freebie (talk) 04:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * I endorse the warnings posted above. There is no doubt that you have the demonstrated ability to be a constructive contributor to the project. But you also have a long track record of acrimonious interactions with your fellow editors, especially when in disagreement. You have been blocked four times by three different admins over the last few years so the problem is not with a specific admin. Please dial it down. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You are the exact same admin that Boing backed up last time, in error, on a matter that neither of you took the time to defend and were clearly in the wrong on. You are one of the admins that you reference. The other; Deb made an error due to bad faith edits by another editor which they were not aware of, as I highlighted above. I have respectfully requested that Boing leave me alone, and leave this discussion to other users, and they at first said that they would acquiesce, and have since reneged on that without explanation or justification. As I believe you have also acted in a biased fashion on this matter I'd also like to request that you leave me alone.--Senor Freebie (talk) 04:47, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No, I did not say I would acquiesce and not comment further at all. I merely said that "you are welcome to make a new unblock request and someone else will review it". I also added that our previous interaction "does not, however, forbid me from taking admin action now". It's just up there in the previous section, and you can easily check it yourself. When you get into a situation where you have been blocked multiple times for similar behaviour over a number of years, I strongly suggest you need to rethink your approach of "All the admins who have blocked me are wrong, not me". Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 06:29, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * I regard this as a continuation of the personal attacks on me. Mztourist (talk) 10:05, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Do you regard the finding against you on ANI in May for the same behaviour I described to be a personal attack against you as well?--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:32, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

May 2020
You have been blocked indefinitely from editing for making personal attacks towards other editors. If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page:. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

This is a continuation of your personal attacks, after having been given multiple clear warnings to stop. You will not be allowed to continue to edit Wikipedia until you make a convincing committment to change your approach to interaction with other editors. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:18, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No it's not. And it's pretty amazing that you're lying so blatantly. Why won't you address any of the criticism of your actions? Why are you responding with shutting down discussions that you failed to properly discuss?--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:23, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * You know how to appeal a block if you think it is unfair. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:28, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not only unfair, it is an abuse of your responsibility and you know it. And you've done this, in my view because I expressed concern with the Wikipedia project in general, due to your behaviour. You are bullying me off this platform and you know it.--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Did you see above where I said "And if you think I don't behave in a manner appropriate for my position, I invite you to make a report at WP:AN when your current block expires and I will stand down as an admin if the community thinks I should"? I note you did not do that, but my committement stands, should you successfully appeal this block. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * No I didn't, and I have no reason to believe you given your dishonest language in this discussion.--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:36, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

Mztourist has been involved in longrunning disputes including multiple ANI findings against them
I've gone back a little bit in the history of this debate, and it seems that I've basically just stood on some toes. Clearly this is part of a bigger political battle on Wikipedia that before now I was not aware of, which would take an enormous amount of effort to unravel, but I'm going to state for the record that the explanation of what a personal attack is on Wikipedia's policy page does not align with my descriptions of Mztourist's positions within discussions. I did not make barbed, or targeted derogatory comments about them, and unless Boing can point me to another explanation on Wikipedia I do not accept their view that I made personal attacks in this discussion, especially as a number of admins and other users have come to very similar conclusions, repeatedly, about their editing.--Senor Freebie (talk) 10:56, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

It's trivial to find more of the behaviour I described, which begs the question why I'm being blocked for describing it. Here; this user who has the South Vietnamese flag on his profile, commented here under the heading [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Txantimedia#Good_Riddance._No_more_VC! Good Riddance. No more VC!] (a term for the movement which resisted the government of South Vietnam) when they gathered with TimesAreAChanging, Mztourist, and another user (who was in the US Navy during the conflict) to ban a Vietnamese editor. If celebrating the banning of someone you describe as Viet Cong is not a personal attack than my descriptions of Mztourist's positions in the discussions on the Phoenix Program were also not personal attacks.--Senor Freebie (talk) 11:09, 27 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Most recently saying that I "manipulated the discussion to have me blocked for a week" and accusing of lying above are both personal attacks, as arguably is the title of this section. Mztourist (talk) 11:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * So you do insist that saying that you have had ANI findings against you is a personal attack? It's interesting that you are making the same false claim about that as Boing. I can back up the fact that Boing lied. But I'll leave that for another time. I have also repeatedly pointed out to the fact that a user that you regularly work with, and agree with was involved in manipulating the ANI discussion. Do you deny that? Or do you claim that just mentioning that is a personal attack?--Senor Freebie (talk) 11:21, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Describing someone's behaviour, or events that they were involved in, or position in a discussion is not a personal attack. This is according to Wikipedia's own policy page. It is not intended as derogatory and it is dishonest to claim otherwise.--Senor Freebie (talk) 11:27, 27 May 2020 (UTC)

In response to your e-mail
The reason I've blocked you from using your Talk page is that you have been using it to carry out further personal attacks of the kind for which you were blocked. If you are looking for an unblock, I suggest you e-mail someone else who doesn't mind you having their personal e-mail address. I'm certainly not giving you mine. Deb (talk) 12:32, 6 June 2020 (UTC)
 * You can request unblock at WP:UTRS. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 13:06, 6 June 2020 (UTC)

UTRS #30799
[https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/appeal/30799 This user is requesting unblock on UTRS #30799. The appeal is currently open ] -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 05:22, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Closed long ago. -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 08:07, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

30915
This user is requesting unblock on UTRS -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 03:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Note to reviewing admin re this appeal. Since the appellant is now going back over older ground in his appeal, I think a few facts should be noted.
 * On 19 May I intervened in a dispute on ANI, where SF was one of two participants in an edit war. I warned both users that I was going to revert the article to the last version before the edit war began, and with this edit I warned that if either of them continued it, I would issue a block. The very next thing SF did was to revert my change, with the edit summary "User did not restore the version they claimed." I therefore imposed a temporary block, noting this action at ANI and also placing a templated warning on SF's Talk page, which he seemed not to understand. The other user felt that I had given SF rather an easy ride, but I was making allowances for the fact that he is very inexperienced, despite his long tenure on the project.
 * As you see above, SF appealed against the short block, and User:Boing! said Zebedee declined the request. Instead of launching a second appeal, SF made personal attacks on several others, which ended in him being indefinitely blocked for this on 27 May.
 * Immediately following the second block (again, the evidence is further up this page), SF made additional personal attacks, most recently calling his opponents "dishonest". At this point, it appeared that SF was not intending to appeal as he had been advised to do in the second block notice, but was making use of his talk page to continue the personal attacks. I therefore extended the block.
 * Rather than appealing against the block, which a cursory reading of Appealing a block would have told him how to do, SF e-mailed me to ask me to explain myself. I can't reproduce the exact wording, as I deleted the e-mail and replied here, as you see above. I swiftly received a second e-mail, which I won't reproduce here because it was just more of the same. As far as I'm concerned, that's the end of it. Deb (talk) 08:17, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

"Access to comment is restricted"
At your UTRS request, you ask "I would appreciate an explanation of what the "restricted comment" notes above mean." Those green comments are inter-admin comments discussing your appeal, and you do not have access to read them. If an admin wants to make a comment for you to be able to read, they will send it as a message to you and it will appear in blue at the UTRS appeal. As it happens, my most recent such comment was intended to be addressed to you and I used the wrong kind of comment, my apology. It reads "For the record, "It's against policy for blocking admins to be involved in appeals" is false. There is no policy forbidding a blocking admin from commenting in an appeal - in fact, they are often asked to." Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 09:58, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Just to add, and reply to "why admins involved in this dispute are here?", I wonder if you are misunderstanding WP:INVOLVED. Admins are not allowed to use admin tools when they are involved in an underlying content dispute, but they are not excluded from taking part in appeals when they are only involved in adminstrative action. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:09, 10 June 2020 (UTC)
 * Re: "Any review will be carried out by an administrator other than the one who blocked you." Yes, the review will be carried out by an administrator other than the one who blocked you, but that does not forbid blocking admins from taking part in the discussion. It means *I* must not accept or decline your appeal, but I can comment on it for the benefit of the reviewing admin. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:14, 10 June 2020 (UTC)


 * And the one I've just posted there now says "I've explained at Senor Freebie's talk page what green "Access to comment is restricted" comments are" - that was a comment to tell other admins I've done it and save them explaining too. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 10:01, 10 June 2020 (UTC)

Your email
It was only because you tried to also login to the tool. It does not affect your current appeal and you can ignore it. -- Amanda  (aka DQ) 20:17, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

I get failed attempts to log into my Wikipedia account about once a week so I wouldn't worry.Deb (talk) 10:58, 18 June 2020 (UTC)

UTRS 30915 is closed
https://utrs-beta.wmflabs.org/appeal/30915

I'm sorry, but the consensus, unanimously, among reviewing admins is that you have failed to address the reasons for your block and have continued making attacks on UTRS. Looks like I'm nominated to close this.

Furthermore, your personal attacks and accusations of bad faith are growing increasingly bizarre and strident. You have received responses on your talk page which you have attacked and or discounted. '''Your disruption and refusal to understand the reasons for your being blocked in no way encourages anyone to allow you to use your talk page to continue your personal attacks and disruption. '''

Per JBW on 06-12 20:29:21

As always, JBW has struck the nail squarely.

PS: Yes Deltaquadbot is malfunctioning. We all get notices from Deltaquadbot. Again, your assumptions are totally shrill and full of attacks. You behavior is the opposite of what it needs to be to be unblocked. Just so you see this, I'll post it to your talk page.

PPS: Just to be clear, your responses to our responses make it clear that restoring your talk page access would only allow the personal attacks and other disruptive behavior to continue on your talk page. It cannot be done. Thanks, -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 08:05, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

PPPS: Quite forgot-- If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks.-- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 08:09, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

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-- 2020-06-07 02:35:51	(331dot had reserved before I could answer. Mine would have been better. This will be a recurring theme.)

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 * 2020-06-07 05:20:44	(attempted reply. I thought appeallants could see the comments)

2020-06-07 08:41:37 (Hopefully successful reply. repeated above)

2020-06-09 15:06:48	(respose to your reply)

2020-06-09 15:07:48	(post release comment to avoid wheel-warring concerns, if anyone disagreed with my opinion that the request should be declined)

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-- 2020-06-10 02:54:13

2020-06-10 02:56:21	(comment)

2020-06-10 03:03:14

2020-06-19 07:57:48	(Decline) Which I think I did. Sometimes, it's the only way to maintain transparency. Oh yes, Deltaquadbot. Deltaquad has been following the bot around removing those messages.

That's all for me. I will not engage with you further, as I seem incapable of communicating with you. Perhaps your current appeal will gain traction. Best. -- Deep fried okra  ( schalte ein ) 17:48, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Non DFO UTRS

 * Hey SF, I apologize for the lack of comments via the UTRS interface. I've never accepted/rejected an appeal using this interface so I thought when I hit decline it would allow me to type a comment. In the effort of transparency, I'll post my comment here.
 * 2020-06-19 19:36:09 (Decline) HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 19:42, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

UTRS 45206
in progress. Cabayi (talk) 09:48, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

very much declined. HighInBC Need help? Just ask. 11:37, 9 July 2021 (UTC)

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