User talk:Seonwiki

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Hello, Seonwiki, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one of your contributions does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV). Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations that have been stated in print or on reputable websites or other forms of media.

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I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes ( ~ ); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you have any questions, check out Questions or ask me on my talk page. Again, welcome! Alexataylor07 (talk) 11:38, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * In regards to your previous edits on Kim Seon-ho I would like to propose that a separate section for his endorsement may be added in the future when the article itself is more developed as due to its short length currently, inclusion of his endorsements will put undue weight on this product endorsements. Also, please keep in mind biographies do not serve to promote an individual. Have a nice day!Alexataylor07 (talk) 11:54, 13 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Just wanted to let you know that I've now added a new section to the article. Alexataylor07 (talk) 15:35, 13 April 2021 (UTC)

Hello!

Thank you for adding the new section. May I ask if it’s not possible to specify brand names? I was initially looking at Actor Song Joong-Ki’s profile and used it as a basis for writing the edits I submitted earlier. Under his (Song Joong Ki’s) endorsements, a lot of brands were mentioned in it. But I do agree that there were parts of my contribution that didn’t adhere to the neutral policy, but majority of it were facts and supported by articles published in Korea and were not my opinions.

Thank you so much! Seonwiki (talk) 15:59, 13 April 2021 (UTC) '
 * Song Joong-ki is not currently listed as a good article here on Wikipedia, hence the article may have significant issues with neutrality and tone that makes it unsuitable to be used as a basis for other articles. Instead I encourage you to refer to Actors and Filmmakers's good articles or featured articles which all have been evaluated to meet Wikipedia's editorial guidelines. There is no strict rule on inclusion of brand names, however I do not see that any of Kim Seon-ho's current brand endorsements are notable (ie. showing significant length or circumstances) enough for inclusion. As per WP:BUTITSTRUE, just because something is true does not mean it should be included in an encyclopaedic article. Moreover, the short length of his career section means any larger amount of text in the endorsements section will give it undue weight. In other words, the career section is the primary section and should be significantly longer that all other written sections. In the case of Song Joong-ki, many of the endorsements mentioned in his article is non-notable and should not be included. Better examples from similar articles can be found in Im Yoon-ah and Park Bo-gum. I hope this helps. Alexataylor07 (talk) 06:20, 14 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for sending sources! This helps a lot, but I’m wondering why Song Joong Ki’s edits were not reverted if they do not adhere to the Neutral Policy? How are we able to choose reliable sources for citing? Is there a minimum number of words for the article before it can be used as a credible citation? Thanks so much! Seonwiki (talk) 06:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Pretty much all editors on Wikipedia are volunteers, hence there is no deadline or obligation for creating or making changes to any article. Older articles may have multiple issues that have built-up over time making it a difficult and time-consuming process to cleanup the article. Of course, Wikipedia is always a work-in-progress (guidelines included), although for the articles that I edit, I try and maintain the editorial standard (which itself is always evolving) best as I can. I'm not sure what you mean by the "minimum number of words" for citations but here is the WikiProject Korea's list of reliable and unreliable sources that you may refer to when finding sources. Happy editing! Alexataylor07 (talk) 10:18, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Hi! Was wondering why Seonho’s awards and nominations are arranged alphabetically and not by year? It’s a little bit confusing. You mentioned Park Bo-gum’s is a good example of a good article and he’s is arranged by year. Thank you :) Seonwiki (talk) 11:46, 27 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I never said Park Bo-gum was an example of a "good article", I referred to his endorsements section specifically as a "better example" over Song Joong-ki. The awards table on Kim Seon-ho is the newest and current standard for how award tables should be laid out, and can be seen across all the new awards featured lists such as Exo and Taylor Swift. Alexataylor07 (talk) 15:02, 27 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. Sorry, I misread the post. But thanks for always editing Seonho's page. Btw, are guestings in variety shows no longer listed in wikipedia, like on a specific episode they appeared in this show? Seonwiki (talk) 09:25, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * I also want to ask when can we usually put philanthropic works on an article? I'm looking at Actor Nam Joo Hyuk's page. Thank you so much, Seonwiki (talk) 09:29, 30 April 2021 (UTC)


 * Variety show guestings are no longer included per consensus by editors at WikiProject Korea. Again, I strongly discourage you from using articles that need much further development as exemplars. I'm not sure how to answer your question when you haven't told me what you would like to add to the article. If you want to suggest improvements to an article you can comment on the article's talk page. Alexataylor07 (talk) 14:53, 1 May 2021 (UTC)