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Beaver Creek State Forest
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Brush Creek State Forest
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Dean State Forest
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Fernwood State Forest
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Hocking State Forest
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Harrison State Forest
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Mohican-Memorial State Forest
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Perry State Forest
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Scioto Trail State Forest
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Shawnee State Forest
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Yellow Creek State Forest
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Stubs
Please, please, please stop creating articles simply for the sake of creating them. Articles such as Pike State Forest are completely useless. I'm trying not to be rude, but many of the articles you have created are worthless in the state they're in. These articles consist of one simple sentence restating the article name and then telling what it is. That's it. It would be useful to have coordinates, an external link/reference, or something'. While yes, these could be expanded in the near or distant future, I feel there is a better way to handle this, such as a WP:List. How about List of state forests in Ohio? Or instead of having 100+ articles like Inglecress, Virginia, a much better alternative would be List of unincorporated communities in Albermarle County, Virginia. Then an independent article could be created later when there's enough information to warrant one. Please, it would be much easier for everyone to have a concise list rather than needing to go through tens or hundreds of one-liners which provide no unique information. Reywas92 Talk 21:03, 15 October 2008 (UTC) I'm watching this page
 * Yeah, and a list of the places with relevant redirects to it is completeness as well. Really, the general public would rather see an actual article instead of one sentence.  There is NO reason to have thousands of one-liners for "completeness" when a) these one-liners are obviously not complete, as a they contain no useful information, and b) a list would serve the exact same purpose but more concise.  I see that you have been working with Blofeld; he also creates place stubs, but they include beneficial external links and an infobox, such as Guthu.  These places are in the US; population, etc. should be accessible and included.  We really aren't kidding when we say Quality, not quantity.  Thanks,  Reywas92 Talk  21:20, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Just another comment, please don't do this again. §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  00:50, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

As someone who has encouraged Albert, I must comment on this. While I agree that very short stubs in certain areas (e.g. fictional characters, businesses) are undesirable, such stubs are, in my view, very helpful with respect to town and location articles. These are clearly notable subjects and articles on them are desirable. Having even a short stub is therefore helpful in terms of providing some basic information on the town and is a fantastic way to draw in new editors into contributing in desirable areas. A prospective new editor is far more likely to contribute to a stub article then they are to attempt to create a whole new Wikipedia page. Therefore, I respectfully disagree with your premise and your admonition to Albert.-- Kubigula (talk) 15:57, 16 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm going to argue aginst you on that one. I can look at an infobox and see of XYZ is an unincorporated community in State.  A one liner article reiterating the title and info in the infobox is undesirable in all aspects.  I'd rather see one article like Pike State Forest be created by you than an article like Perry State Forest which we have to agree is quite useless.  Not one external link, reference, footnote, infobox, or talk page banner.  IMO many of these qualify for CSD.  We don't have to create one-liners because we don't have an article on the subject.  Either wait until someone takes the time to create a decent article, or please make these ones worthwile.  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  17:10, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Even something like Siegenthaler-Kaestner Esker State Nature Preserve would be okay, minus pic. It didn't even needs refs, but that way the new guy who wants to edit but is afraid to create an article (or is an IP) atleast has 1 resource given to them so it can be expanded.  §hep   •   ¡Talk to me!  17:36, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * I see the many stubs Alfred created on Virginia towns and natural areas as having added significant value, though admittedly many had more content than the ones you cite. Personally, I view almost any beginning of an article on a notable subject as having value, though I see your side of that argument as well.  You may well think that his time would be better spent elsewhere.  However, we are all volunteers here and we all have different things we like doing and ways of advancing the ball.  A simple suggestion that he add a little more meat to his stubs or giving specific ideas on additional content are perfectly fine - I suspect Alfred would have embraced that.  Telling him to stop and calling his efforts completely useless and worthless are not the right way to address this.-- Kubigula (talk) 04:51, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Bots and translation
Hi Albert. I've mentioned something to User talk:Jimbo Wales about it. Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 15:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

You mean because of your useless creation of articles like Pike State Forest? Duh. I of course am being sarcastic, if you didn't read that!! Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 16:32, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I agree. However you need to maximise the possibility of it being expanded by at least adding an external link to the Ohio Forest Resources site and another others. Try to add a fact or two such as :"The forest covers an area of 3456 acres and was founded in 1952" etc. For instance something like Acadia Cliffs State Nature Preserve Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:07, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

I'm going on a wikibreak now for a day or two, best of luck Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:51, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Albemarle County locales
You created a metric pantload of entries for locations in Albemarle County, Virginia, most of which don't actually exist, whether in the historical or contemporary records, lacking any specific citation. But that's not my complaint. My complaint is that, in all of these dozens and dozens of identical, single-sentence entries, you've misspelled "Albemarle County" as "Albermarle County." I can only assume that you used some sort of an automated tool to create these. If you don't intend to delete these things, would you at least please correct them to spell "Albemarle" correctly? If you're going to go making mistakes en masse automatically, I just can't see fixing all of these by hand. --WaldoJ (talk) 03:01, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

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Juvenaly of Alaska
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Đorđe Bogic
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Biographies
Looks interesting. Oh I'll be sorting through buildings and structures by asian country to make the building and struct cats viable so they to hit 60 articles e.g Category:Afghan building and structure stubs. Do you think you could help me like you did with Antarctica and create some stubs on landmarks by country in Asia if needs be. I've done Afghasnistan, Armenia and Azerbaijan, Bangladesh is next. First of all they need stub sorting and then seeing if they are viable like Category:Armenian building and structure stubs. Right now though I am stubbing some articles on Croatian architects Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 21:03, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

I've recently created a set of Asian structure tenmplates here. What we need to do is completely get rid of the "" by splitting by country. In order for this to be valid we need 60 articles on buildings for each asian country. It was ridiculous I came across an article on an Azeri TV tower and it had an "asia-struct stub" tag attatched to it with a picture of Angkot Wat Cambodia. I was saying to Alai the other day that it would be like an Irish pub in Dublin having a Euro-struct tag on it depicting Hagia Sophia mosque in Istanbul!

What needs doing is to stub sort first e.g go through all the articles for e,g and stub sort them by adding Bangladesh-struct-stub and removing any general stub templates being used like bangladesh-stub or asia-struct-stub. Once you have gone through all of the articles in the relative cats e.g bridges, mosques, dams etc there should be over 60 articles in the stub category. If not then they need topping up to ensure they do, The other day I generated a few stubs on Afghan mosques, Armenian monasteries and Azerbaijani airports. Its quite straightforward to do and is actually a good way of browsing through what we already have. Let me know if you can help out, start backwards with Yemen if you like with sorting Yemen-struct-stub Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 21:17, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

A good way is to look in the commons and see if there are any interesting buildings in cities etc that are missing. There should also be numerous red links in articles on the major cities plus lists like List of airports in Bangladesh etc.Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 21:22, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes the idea is to do one or two at a time rather than the whole of Asia, I work best that way too. I'll set up all the categories in a minute. On a quick check it looks like we need another 10 articles for Uzbekistan but its probably best to top them up after they have all been tagged. Thanks Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

Yemen? Probably mosques and well... more mosques! Full of Arabs, I remember seeing it on the Tudor Parfitt documentary. Tajikistan and Turkmenistan might be difficult but some of the others should be easier if they dont have 60 already which Bangladesh didBlofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:15, 23 October 2008 (UTC) Urgh I'm having spware trouble again which is affecting my PC. Highly annoying, keeps freezing all the timeBlofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

I see what you mean about Yemen. Practically empty Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 17:23, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

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French fluency
Hi Albert, I read on your userpage that you are fluent in French. Could you please translate This for me at User:Editorofthewiki/Sandbox/Hubert Maga. I'm working on Hubert Maga to Good and (hopefully) Featured article status and given there is not much on him, this would be an excellent source. ~  one of many editorofthewikis ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 16:06, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I thought you could use a hamburger as you seemed hungry. Eat up boy!Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 18:58, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Hehe. Yes SPECTRE are renowned for doing things like that! Unless you have been guilty of embezzlement however, I think you are safe. Heheh that burger reminds my of the Foo Fighters Learn to Fly video. Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 19:08, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I was thinking of shortening by user name to Dr. Blofeld. SOunds more evil. What do you think? Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 19:14, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

I've filed a request to change it to Dr. Blofeld as it is partly Dr. Evil isn't it LOL. SHould crash wikipedia for an hour or two while it changes all those edits! Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 19:26, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Its undergoing change now I think. Wow check out the server lag 293 seconds!! Is that a record? Blofeld of SPECTRE (talk) 20:21, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

"I've been expecting you" Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:30, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I feel just that little bit more evil and ready to dominate now. LOL did you see my SPECTRE world logo with the blown up middle east! (not that you can miss it) The Turkish government failed to deliver the shipment of Turkish delight to Kyoto, Japan so naturally I sought revenge by blowing up the Bosphorous and Istanbul! As a result Europe, particularly Eastern Europe and western Russia looks like frickin Tierra del Fuego LOL. Anyway back to more serious stuff Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Oh I agree, didn't want to come across as a clown thats all! Hey you should be full after that burger. How about a nice British meal of Bangers and Mash? (although I must admit that image looks like somebodys shat twice on a birds egg).Dr. Blofeld (talk) 20:59, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

Yes I just checked on cologne blue and it looks crap (I'm using modern at present). Try it on monobook or modern, it looks much better. Yes I also think the featured picture should go on the top right but I'm rather restricted in my knowledge of computer /web designing. Its only because they are going to change the main page soon enough and are whittling down the candidates. It was a suggestion to User:Pretzel's proposal See 2008 main page redesign proposal/straw poll 2008-10-18. Dr. Blofeld 17:32, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Another idea combining two of the best entries 2008 main page redesign proposal/Dr. Blofeld 2. The alignment is cocked up but you get the idea if there was no gaps or double borders  Dr. Blofeld  22:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)

Translation
Hi AlbertHerring! Would you please translate the following text into english for me, "Alors nos producteurs respectifs se sont arrangés". Thanks, sincerely Condamine (talk) 18:09, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Jacob Netsvetov
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Maga
Are you still working on the translation? ~  one of many editorofthewikis ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 19:54, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks A LOT. I will probably rewrite most of it, but is it OK if I copy your text directly to Maga's article? ~  one of many editorofthewikis ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 21:00, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Blofeld
LOL Blofeld look alike. Doesn't he look a lot like Telly Savalas!Dr. Blofeld (talk) 22:09, 2 November 2008 (UTC)

I take it you want to create and. I was going to have a break today and the next day or two, I feel a little drowsy at the moment. Today is one of my off days in regards to wiki. However, I can look to see what needs to be done and perhaps get some motivation to help in a few minutes or so. If it is basic stubbing with a fact or two I can probably manage it. Do the templates exists already? Count Blofeld 18:33, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I see. I'll make a start working backwards with SOlomons. Can't promise Grenada tbough Count Blofeld  18:38, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL I knew it had "evil potential". Just blackened it out and adjusted the hue to a more paler version. You can adjust images to a blue and green too. The blue one was quite evil too, perhaps I'll save that one until I become cryogenically frozen again  Count Blofeld  18:43, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

I found Morgan Freemans long lost brother Count Blofeld  18:54, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

LOL Osama Hussain. SOunds like a stereotypical terrorists name to me  Count Blofeld  20:48, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

I just stubbed The Famous Five (series) novels but I'm not feeling like editing today either. Count Blofeld 20:52, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

You could create some more stubs on Spanish politicians from WikiProject Spain/Missing politicians. Count Blofeld 20:56, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

The idea though is that you count how many there are first and then create the stub template and category and then apply them to the articles as you go along. Now you will need to revisit them and stub sort later!! Count Blofeld 21:51, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Care to expand Lorella Cuccarini by translating from Italian wiki sometime? Count Blofeld  23:08, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

Trifles
I realize you didn't start the article on Trifles You're just the first editor on the edit list with a user page. I left the following comment in discussion. I will also try to inform someone who's worked on the article recently: Film adaptation, directed by Pamela Walker at Pixar. http://talesofcolossus.blogspot.com/ http://munchanka.blogspot.com/2008_03_01_archive.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.254.172 (talk) 16:50, 3 November 2008 (UTC)

Re:Liechtenstein
Credit where it's due - most of the work wasn't mine, but rather yours early on and User:JMiall's in the last few weeks. I only added the last handful to tip it over the 60-stub mark. Grutness...wha?  22:21, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
 * I can see the Grenada proposal there - perhaps you just need to clear your cache. Grutness...wha?  22:40, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Translation request
Got a new one for you: http://www.jeuneafrique.com/jeune_afrique/article_jeune_afrique.asp?art_cle=LIN25033justitatled0 Same page, same deal. ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 01:44, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. If you look at Maga's article, it does mention he has a wife. Alas, his wife is also unnamed by the African Powder Keg, and I've found very few books about the man. If you can find one, please alert me. ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 00:48, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I'll just do it the old fashioned way--looking through newspaper archives, books, etc. Thanks for your offer though. ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 01:21, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Do you happen to have a newspaper archive subscription? ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 01:26, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
 * Dargh! I don't want to you to perform such a monsterous task as searching through newspaper archives - I remember travelling to the LOC one year and couldn't find any books I liked! If you happen upon a book about/biography of Maga, give me a ding. The only reason I asked is because someone I know that has a new subscription ([User:Nishkid64) seems to be on a wikibreak. ~ the editorofthewiki  ( talk / contribs / editor review ) ~ 01:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Randall and Hopkirk
Hey have a look at Randall and Hopkirk (Deceased) and then see this. Have you ever seen this or The Avengers? Cult 60s British TV  Count Blofeld  15:08, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

P.S I noticed that Macau-bio-stub could do with filling. Count Blofeld 15:23, 8 November 2008 (UTC)

Stubs
Hi there AlbertHerring,

Great job on the stub creation for Seychelles and Grenada! I am glad to see that I am not the only one working on some of these topics. Anyway, I just ask that you do a little bit of stub sorting. All African countries have specific stub templates based on occupation, such as Seychelles-politician-stub. If you could sort with the politician stub template instead of simply the larger Seychelles-bio-stub, that would be very helpful. Otherwise, great job with the articles!--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 20:42, 8 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Oh I hear ya. Take a look at and you'll see that after sorting them into politicians and sportspeople, there are about 20 or so miscellanous stubs :-(. That being said, my goal still is for every country to have at least a bio-stubs subcategory someday.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 03:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Until at least 60 politician obtain their own stub articles for a given country, the politician stub feeds into the bio stub category. For example, Angola-politician-stub puts the appropriate articles into both the and .--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 13:50, 9 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Then it would go under the national category, i.e. --Thomas.macmillan (talk) 17:25, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

1999 or 2008?
I;ve just noticed Image:GraceChurchCaIra.jpg. Was this taken in 2008 or 1999? The camera info says 1999  Count Blofeld  20:25, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

You're not speaking much the last few days. Are you busy? WOuld you be interested in stubbing these? Count Blofeld 21:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Cool. I've just been doing a little work on French Guiana. It could do with a considerable boost. Count Blofeld 21:40, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

Hey ALbert. Can you add Category:Members of the Senate of France Count Blofeld  20:27, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Dunno, I was following the convention for spanish politicians. Senators of the Fifth Republic is good but the existing cat implies they are still living and active and are currently part of it. Count Blofeld 21:06, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Go for it. We can always create a nav. template later anyway for "current" senators. Would you be up for this? Count Blofeld 21:16, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Equally I can't believe that we didn't already have stubs on them. Many people think wikipedia is so complete but could you just imagine if we were missing politicians of a similar stature from the US! Even the President of the French Senate article is a stub. I'd imagine 343 politicians would fit in a template, probably could use and set the nav tmeplate to collapsed so it isn't permanently bloated. Count Blofeld 21:20, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

That is also a good idea. I think where we are at present though, a national one would be appropriate. Count Blofeld 21:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

You'd better recat the "members" as Category:French Senators of the Fifth Republic first using AWB. Might not be a bad idea to create the template and red links first and then use in the articles you create. This way it would also stop people placing ugly orphan tags in too Count Blofeld  21:24, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Coding? See Template:Senators of France. Just needs rmeoving the capital letters and formatting  Count Blofeld  21:32, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

OK I;ve made good head way with Template:Senators of France. Can you complete the formatting? Count Blofeld 22:34, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

Excellent. Doesn't look too big, no different in size to some of the French commune and Spanish munic boxes we have Count Blofeld  11:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC) OK Mr. Herring. I've added the template to existing articles so it should be clear to continue whenever you want to. Really we should have articles like Dominique Voynet on them all already. Count Blofeld 14:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

That sounds good although I mustn't get too sidetracked from my Nepal/Mexico work. Will be glad to set up red links. We really should have bots operating for things like this. I feel quite gutted after what happened after my major efforts to get some bot operators on here to run. Imagine what we could do if we were bot coders. The best thing we can do it create similar red link lists/templates and stub them, particularly from other wikipedias. We also have a WikiProject Spain/Missing politicians list too that can be directly stubbed from Spanish wikipedia  Count Blofeld  14:57, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Well if we do find a bot operator it certainly won't be Fritz I'm afraid. I trusted him but I'm not going to spend any more time chasing rainbows. Arggh if I think too much about missing articles I tend to a get a headache so I try to limit what I take on. When we have so much content missing it really would make a massive difference for people who care about the future of this project to take the incentive to bot generate articles. This would mean most of my time could be spent developing articles to a higher quality rather than starting them. Grunt work, should undoubtedly be done by a bot. We're pretty good the two of us at mass stubbing, but it would be nice to have bots than run in the mainspace. They rule the roost elsewhere. Hey WikiProject Slovenia I stared now has 20 members. I split it this morning and redesigned the page. What do you think? Count Blofeld 15:07, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. Thats a great article on Grace Church BTW. Yes it is the same with me my work is balanced between wanting to spend my editing time writing articles to GA quality e.g most recent Moonraker (film), and then feeling guilty spending too much time on one article when there are thousands of stubs which needs quickly cleaning up or zillions of red links on missing articles on important subjects. I would fully support another proposal but I'm afraid they pretty much ignored my requests for a bot to add infoboxes to French communes which could have bene done very easily. Also many people seem to think that wikipedia should be "complete" so would object to anything which creates more stubs. I on the other hand think of our long term goals and the best way to achieve this. I think wikipedia will always be a working progress and we will never reach a stage (not within the next 10 years anyway) where editing and growth of content slows down because there are hundreds of millions of articles that could potentially be written. I hope some stage most of our tradiationally important encyclopedia articles are at least GA quality but I think part of our growth should be planned and done so with monthly targets and using bots as a first stage. Count Blofeld 15:28, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Bare minimum we should find a bot to create lists of missing articles from other wikipedias as you also suggested Count Blofeld  15:33, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

I'll add some tomorrow. Right now I'm pretty annoyed with this editor. I'll log in tomorrow and be bot drilled exactly the same orphaned images I received this morning. It really gets to me  Count Blofeld  20:58, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Ahh I'm OK just sick of having to save images or articles. Your edit summary of Yannick Bodin is quite amusing. A beaded lady? I'll tag your articles, got a bit of indigestion from the salmon I ate earlier anyway! Count Blofeld  21:09, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Port-au-Prince school collapse and random blatherings
Thanks for finding what I missed - it's much appreciated. That being said, I'm sorry to say I can't bear Britten! Also, just a little something... -  chic geek  talk 20:11, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, it's most of that 20 C. English school that I can't stand! (I should duck...) But give me Renaissance polyphonic gorgeousness any day and I'll be one happy chorister. As for the second collapse, I was just browsing my newsfeeds and had a few extra minutes. I can see it possibly being absorbed into the Pétionville school collapse sometime in the future, as it was a far less destructive incident (thank goodness). And no worries, it's just a little pixelated trinket after all. :) -  chic geek  talk 20:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Monteverdi! Now there's a good lad. He and Gesualdo certainly know how to push my buttons. Though oddly some Poulenc has trickled into my favourite playlists lately...


 * As for the article and sources, I think I'll be sifting through some of these later on tonight for more information. Yay Google. -  chic geek  talk 20:39, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * French Senate. Sounds almost as fun as Britten! And no worries, there's not much information out there right now on the PaP collapse so it's not much to handle.


 * I performed bits of Carmelites last year (habit and all), and to be honest I understand why it's Poulenc's one-and-only opera. You're certainly right, there are breathtaking moments, but overall the genre is not his strong point. But when you have a spare half hour, have a listen to his Figure Humaine - one of the hardest and most beautiful things I've encountered in my career. Swoon. -  chic geek  talk 21:46, 12 November 2008 (UTC)


 * But but but... they're the French! On that note, I think a pasta dinner awaits me. Well met, and all this blathering from a single misplaced letter. Cheers, -  chic geek  talk  21:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Operation Barcelona
I've declined the speedy you placed on Operation Barcelona. This article is definitely not nonsense. When you tagged the page for deletion, there were several reliable sources about this military operation. Please be more careful when you tag pages for speedy deletion. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 05:22, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

A Wiki Atlas sister project
Your thoughts would be much appreciated at Village pump (proposals). Thanks  Count Blofeld  12:02, 13 November 2008 (UTC)