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Lists of songs
Hi. Do you remember your answer on list of recorded songs topic? You said there that all recorded and released versions should be listed but it's still questionable for me how to handle some recorded versions. How to handle versions with same instrumental but with additional lyrics (in this case title was shortened) or almost identical version but with additional pattern with instrument accompanying for almost whole song? How to handle versions in different languages credited as "German Version" or how to menion song had different titles on different releases? Finally if versions without insignificant changes shouldn't be listed, how to mention that they were released under differet titles? I noticed songs without insignificant changes can have different credits, is it important? Eurohunter (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, for starters, are you talking about doing something like taking a List of Taylor Swift songs to WP:FA? Or are you just trying to tidy up a list article for some obscure indie rock band or something? Because if it’s the latter, you’re probably free to handle it however you want. Outside of these superstar recording artists that have list articles maintained by super-fans, these sorts of articles don’t get much attention, and you won’t likely have anyone one to oppose your way of handling it. Sergecross73   msg me  19:55, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It would be something between with focus on FA but the goal is to make it just best and complete as possible:) It can go quite insane. It's such confusing. Eurohunter (talk) 16:25, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * It can be even more complicated if we include released video versions or album versions. Eurohunter (talk) 16:59, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Well, I’ll say this - when dealing with these alternate versions of recordings, my advice would be to include whatever meets the following criteria if I were doing another song list:
 * Can it be reliably sourced?
 * Would a non-fan/general audience find it interesting?
 * Is it fulfilling personally to work through the details to document?
 * If the answer is yes to all 3, document it. If there are any “no” answers, don’t bother listing it. Sergecross73   msg me  01:27, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Reviewing a draft for me (Draft:Thaiboy Digital)
Hi Serge,

Not sure if this is the way to go about this, but I am looking to have a draft reviewed and was told to contact the member of a wikiproject.

My draft is at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Thaiboy_Digital

Please let me know if it meets Wikipedia's standards or if I need to make any changes.

Also, if this isn't the way to go about this sorry for bothering you!!

Best,

Lithexfree (talk) 10:45, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi there. It looks like you already moved it into the mainspace, but regardless, it’s fine. I think the dedicated sources from outlets like The Fader are probably enough to keep the article from being targeted for deletion. However, if he’s has ever had a song or album chart on any major charts, I’d include that, as that’s another good argument for a musician having their own article. Not something like a iTunes/Amazon chart, but like if he charges on the Billboard 200, or whatever the national chart is for Thailand. (Sorry, not well-verses in the Thailand scene specifically.) Sergecross73   msg me  14:52, 3 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:50, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games
You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:09, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

Sonic GT plans
Hello. While I'm still working on the second FAC for Sakura Wars (1996 video game) as part of my efforts to get all of the main Sakura Wars games ones to at least FA status so I can get it a good topic or even a featured topic, I'm thinking about making the Sonic the Hedgehog main series a good topic and eventually, a featured topic. Are there any thoughts or suggestions you might have or should we contact the regulars at WT:VG? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:45, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that’s a good idea. There are a lot of articles, but I know I r rewritten and improved a bunch over the course of the 2010s, and Joebro has brought a bunch of them to GA, so it could be plausible. Talk to WP:VG about it though when you’re ready though. I’m around, but my time for dedicated content creation is limited, so I’m unsure how much I’ll be able to contribute. Sergecross73   msg me  13:26, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 11:21, 2 March 2020 (UTC)

Wii U
There currently is a lack of detail by the article just saying, “poor marketing”. Whitebro (talk) 18:12, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And you think adding such a vague, unexplained “and the name was abysmal” is helping that? I don’t mind adding more detail, but your proposed wording is awkward and confusing. Sergecross73   msg me  18:30, 4 March 2020 (UTC)

LTA report?
I have a quick question regarding a long-term abuse report. Should we do one on the community banned user, who hasn't been around since his last sock was blocked back in July 2018? If not, should we keep reporting him to WP:SPI? Thanks. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:50, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s up to you. I dont often deal with LTA as a venue (though I use the term a lot), I generally use SPI or do WP:DUCK blocks. You can come to me about suspects if you like, though if I remember right, it seems like he’s been hard to rationalize DUCK blocks in the past. Sergecross73   msg me  22:09, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If he's been away for so long what's even the point? Just forget him Sjones, WP:DFTT.... User:Sjones23/G-Zay is already plenty sufficient as a pseudo-LTA page. Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  22:26, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh, I was only wondering and was seeking the best options on how to deal with it in the future, that’s all. Maybe an actual LTA report is unnecessary after all. Thanks for your understandings on it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:37, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Anytime! Sergecross73   msg me  22:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)

Sega Saturn article
You're absolutely correct when you say it doesn´t make sense to put both regions together when in Japan it lasted much longer, so I don't understand why you reverted my edit. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.49.184.75 (talk) 07:52, 17 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Yup, you’re right, I misread that. Apologies. I’ve undone my edit. Sergecross73   msg me  13:05, 17 March 2020 (UTC)

Mario series an FT/GT?
So, given that most of the Mario articles are GA/FA and that we’re spearheading the Sonic GT/FT project, should we consider doing a push for the main Mario series to be a GT/FT? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:00, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I've been idly considering this for pretty much 8 years LOL! I started my tenure on Wikipedia working off of Book talk:Mario franchise video games, as an easy way to get a list of Mario articles and their maintenance templates. If you go for a GT/FT you're probably a loooot better off sticking to the main Super Mario series and not the entire Mario franchise. It's all C or above already, and about half of it is GA or above. Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  23:49, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * That’s right, back almost a decade ago, you were the Mario guy and I was the Sonic guy, lol. Anyways, I was about to say a similar thing - “Mario” seems like a massive undertaking, while “Super Mario” seems more do-able. Sergecross73   msg me  23:52, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Or a subtopic! Mario racing games, Mario role-playing games both have a lot of GAs already. Ben · Salvidrim!   &#9993;  23:54, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * And of course, I was one of the main Final Fantasy and Sakura Wars contributors (FF is where I got my main start when I first edited back in December 2006), in addition to my contributions to the Sonic and Mario franchises. Not to mention that we’re going to celebrate the 35th anniversary of it this year. The main Super Mario series articles are mostly GA and above. I plan to use the Final Fantasy main series as a model for the Super Mario GT/FT in question; some of the main editors who have helped with the Mario series have since left us, unfortunately, so I think we should mention them when we nominate it for GT/FT. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 23:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, I always think of you as a major JRPG contributor. I’m nostalgic for the old days, but happy that the three of us are all still here. Sergecross73   msg me  23:59, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
 * If there's no objections, I think we should just ask around at WT:VG and see what can be done about the Mario series being a GT and eventually an FT. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 00:42, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

I've created a WikiProject discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Video_games if you guys are interested in it. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 01:25, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Main GT editors for main Sonic series
A while back, I was thinking about mentioning the main editors who previously worked on the main Sonic series (before they left the project, of course) for a GTC, using the Final Fantasy FTC nomination as a point of reference. Any thoughts about the idea? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 20:01, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Trapt’s wiki page
My edit was not wrong.

Saying how the Trapt albums charted was neutral.

But saying “this was a low charting” or “this is a lowest charting album” is not neutral.

Also, Trapt’s Wikipedia page talks about their social screw ups. But other artists page’s don’t. How does one determine what should be on Wikipedia and what shouldn’t? SandwichGuy234 (talk) 04:06, 21 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It all has to do with what reliable sources say, and how things are worded. It is not a neutrality violation to simply say an album was a bands worst selling if it’s factually true. Same with documenting social media use. Generally, it’s not something covered. But because so many reliable sources have pointed it out, it’s been documented. And again, not a neutrality violation - the section doesn’t condemn them, it just documents what has objectively happened. Sergecross73   msg me  13:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

System page error/Wikimedia error.
I keep getting System error notices saying that a page was experiencing a technical issue or failed to process changes. Is there a link you could direct me to so I can inform the Wikimedia admins about the issue? I also believe that's its because I've been editing a lot over on those pages, and it's causing a lot of traffic problems on the whole site I think. Is that it, or something else? Thanks. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 21:23, 27 March 2020 (UTC)
 * It could just be technical issues on Wikimedia’s part. I don’t know about Wikipedia in particular, but I know a lot of internet/streaming websites and services are having issues keeping up because there’s an unprecedented number of people online right now, between Coronavirus social distancing (staying at home) efforts, and large numbers of people temporarily or permanently losing their jobs, or not able to go to school. There could just be a lot of people on Wikipedia right now. Sergecross73   msg me  21:33, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

Move help again
Hello~! I've been working on World of Darkness articles a bunch recently, and in my research for rewriting the series page (which involved tracking down a lot of print sources from the 90s and 00s...), I've learned that our Mage: The Sorcerer's Crusade article is named incorrectly - both the game itself, and RSs covering it, spell the title as Mage: The Sorcerers Crusade, without the apostrophe. The correct title is a redirect with history, though - do you think you could help me move the page? Thanks, --AlexandraIDV 03:24, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem. Done! Let me know if you need anything else! Sergecross73   msg me  13:34, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! ^_^ --AlexandraIDV 15:39, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, anytime! Sergecross73   msg me  16:55, 31 March 2020 (UTC)

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Protected template deletion nom
There is consensus to delete the NFL predraft template per [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#Is_there_a_consensus_about_Combine_results? WT:NFL discussion], but the template is edit protected and thus I can't add the nomination tag for it. I've already asked on its talk page and WP:NFL, but its admins aren't as active as they should be (I guess I'm spoiled by WP:VG), so I'm requesting it here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 00:34, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
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 * , I wasn't aware it was a granted permission (I assumed only admins had it), but sure. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 00:54, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Done, nominate away. Be mindful of course when editing templates with high visibility. -- ferret (talk) 00:56, 2 April 2020 (UTC)
 * , Of course, thanks. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:03, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks as always for helping, ferret. Sergecross73  msg me  01:44, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

New Smashing Pumpkins wiki
Hello friend! Guess what? I've been talking with Billy on Instagram! He wants a wiki for the fans, by the fans! I'm going to set it up! I of course thought of you. You want in on this? Please email me :) &mdash; MusikAnimal  talk  04:01, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I’ve never been one to edit any other wikis, but send me a link when it’s up and running and I’ll take a look at least. Sergecross73   msg me  21:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

Thank you!
Dear Sergecross73, thank you for taking me out of my block. I just wanted to tell you that I found a way for both me and TheJoebro64 to have the same thing in List of Sonic the Hedgehog characters. All I did was write this: "Sonic Ogilvie Maurice Wentworth the Hedgehog, known as just Sonic the Hedgehog in the videogame series...". So I hope you won't block me again for this. Thank you. P.S.: You told me on my talk page that I'm making "unsourced edits". But when I first created my account, the only reason why I did that was so I could be able to edit semi-protected pages. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gumball T. Waterson (talk • contribs) 09:39, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m very aware of what you did, and that’s why you were blocked. You edit warred, you were blocked, you returned and continued reverting without discussion, were blocked again, returned and reverted again, and are now blocked again. I don’t know how to be any more clear about this. Discuss disputes and only make changes if you have a WP:CONSENSUS that supports your change. And add sources for your edits. And don’t remove all sources in a WP:BLP article. These articles are semi-protected to prevent edits like these. Sergecross73   msg me  03:45, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Xenoblade Chronicles 2 edits
Hey there, Serge!

I hope i'm not bothering you by sending this message. I'm a new editor to Wikipedia. Before making my account I edited a couple of pieces of text on the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 article, which I saw you reverted due to lack of sources. (I apologize for not citing my writings.)

I wanted to know if it would be helpful to put the previous information back up if I retroactively add the appropriate sources. If not, I absolutely understand. Just wanted to be helpful.

Thank you for your time and feedback! (Once again, I hope I haven't bothered you by sending this message.) Please have a great rest of your day! TheGrandGamer (talk) 18:43, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Hi there. It’s no bother at all, I’m happy to help people. But it’s hard to comment on your edits without being able to reference them, or even know what they contained at all. Sergecross73   msg me  00:51, 7 April 2020 (UTC)
 * @Sergecross73 Thanks for being so nice and I apologize for my late response. At this point, I believe I was actually mistaken in my request. I should have been refering to the Xenoblade Chronicles page rather than the Xenoblade Chronicles 2 page. My edits were within the settings and themes section of the page. they are currently the 3 most recent edits with the exception of your retraction. I added some information regarding the game's themes such as the evils of religion, and the death of humanity. If you feel that this information would be valuable to the page, I would be happy to re-upload it, (with the appropriate citation of course.) If you have some time, please let me know if this would be worthwhile. Thanks for your help. i promise to be more diligent in my response in the future. TheGrandGamer (talk) 21:16, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
 * No problem, I have no problem helping people who wish to help improve Wikipedia and better understand the rules and policies here. So, based off of that comment, I assume you may be referring to these edits here? If so, yes, I believe some of that could probably be salvaged and re-added if you had reliable sources for it. Without sources though, it looks like something that violates our WP:OR policy. Anyways, let me know if I’m talking about the right edits and we can take it from there. Thanks! Sergecross73   msg me  03:54, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Sockpuppet suspicion
Hello, Serge. I'm getting a little suspicious of as well as. I removed an edit made by A flatulence-relieved loud, satisfied belch‎, which was a sockpuppet of as per the section where all edits by banned users may be reverted. However, it was restored by Reciprocater (the discussion is here)‎ and after briefly looking in to the user's edits, I was suspicious of the user's similarities to It's gonna be awesome (they edit medical articles, etc.), so I filed an SPI on it. Unfortunately, I think the situation's probably going to get out of hand, can you please look into this? Thanks, Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 06:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I left a note on the SPI. Someone full-protected the SPI too, so it shouldn’t spiral any further (at that location at least.) Sergecross73   msg me  13:42, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 13:50, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Update - user was check user blocked. Good call . Sorry they gave you so much unwarranted grief. Sergecross73   msg me  17:46, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Admin help
Hey Serge. Can you talk to this one user who is hounding other users on their talk page? Seeing comments like this one is rather concerning. GamerPro64 19:58, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m happy to help, but unless they’re doing something else worse somewhere else, I don’t know what I’d say beyond “Hey, can you calm down a bit?”  Sergecross73   msg me  20:29, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I think a calm down can be a start. I just wanted an admin to at least keep an eye on the user. They have been incredibly rude throughout the nomination to begin with. GamerPro64  21:13, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, you’re right. Just saw his “I don’t care” response after someone said all the Coronavirus stuff set back their plans to work on a review. That’s terrible. Left them a sterner warning than I originally thought I would. There’s no excuse for comments like that. Sergecross73   msg me  15:08, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:19, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Check out my arguments on Limp Bizkit's talk page
Since you're the one that reverted my edits (which is fine btw, I didn't want to post a RFC unless there was consistent opposition), please read my case, and give your opinion on the matter at the band's talk page. Thank ya. Xanarki (talk) 02:04, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I’m well aware, the page is on my watchlist, ever since someone asked for help with a vandal forever ago. Seems there’s always trouble there with editors who don’t know policies and guidelines. I wouldn’t expect much of a response on your RFC. It’s waaaaaay to wordy. People aren’t going to read through all of that. Sergecross73   msg me  12:11, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry for the back-and-forthing, I get way too focused and straightforward to a fault. At this point, I don't really expect anyone to chime in. I think down the line a better case can be made but as of right now it's probably a goner. I was more biased in the Nine Inch Nails article, and that band has more fans, thus why those EPs easily got included. Limp Bizkit, not so much. There's a slew of artists that deserves to have EPs included, such as Twiztid, Marilyn Manson, Eminem (that'll be a headache), etc. I know it seems like an odd concept for me to focus on, though. Won't know what happens till I try, at least. Xanarki (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
 * It’s fine, we all have our good faith ideas of what direction Wikipedia should go in. I’m sorry I didn’t agree with you this time. Sergecross73   msg me  13:16, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Archive my previous talk page
Is there a way I (or you possibly) could archive my talk page? Zacharyalejandro (talk) 21:58, 10 May 2020 (UTC)Zacharyalejandro

You told me to msg you about the Sonic thing.
I am not a Sonic the Hedgehog superfan, so I don't know about all the series in the series or whatever, but I am trying to help make it more clear. I can tell that it is not clear because I don't know anything about Sonic the Hedgehog series and I got confused when I was reading it. Why was I confused: It says that "Sonic the Hedgehog" is a video game series. Which implies that the name of the series is "Sonic the Hedgehog". Then there is a list of the games in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" series. One of the games in the list, I am pretty sure is called "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing". I click on it. On the "Sonic & Sega All-Stars Racing" article page it says that the series is "Sega Superstars". This is why I got confused because it literally just said it was listing games in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" series and now it's telling me that one of the games in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" series is in another series named "Sega Superstars". This is confusing because can a game be in 2 series? Or is "Sega Superstars" like a sub-series in the "Sonic the Hedgehog" series? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NamelessLameless (talk • contribs) 22:24, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, a game can be part of multiple series, and/or games break out into sub-series. It’s no different than something like Mario Kart 8, which can be considered both Mario games and Mario Kart games. Sergecross73   msg me  22:43, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Then we should make that more clear because as someone that did not know that, It is almost impossible to tell that because the article never said anything about it. NamelessLameless (talk) 06:19, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
 * To be clear, you’re confused about things like Sonic and Sega All-Star Racing being part of Sonic the Hedgehog and Sega All-Stars series? And you feel people are commonly confused about this? Sergecross73   msg me  12:20, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

Vandalism pt 23
Serge's 23rd iteration of his own personal WP:AIV and WP:RFPP. Feel free to report anything you feel may need admin intervention. Sergecross73  msg me  18:03, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Not vandalism, but user could use some sort of warning for talk page hostility (as seen here) and a general lack of understanding/ignoring Wiki policies on many Dota 2 esports pages. The user does all their edits in good faith, but makes it really hard to collaborate with them when they usually ignore any proper policies and guidelines I link to them in favor of their own personal preferences. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:44, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Warned. Sergecross73   msg me  03:06, 15 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Little help on Simon & Garfunkel, please? Popcornduff (talk) 13:20, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * You’re not wrong, but it appears to be in good faith, and there’s no discussion, so I shouldn’t technically be interjecting yet... Sergecross73   msg me  14:49, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * I've left a message on their talk page and explained in edit summaries. Nothing. Not even saying anything in the edit summary. Popcornduff (talk) 15:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, but it was just a template warning on an IP talk page. Nothing on the article talk page. And IPs don’t get the ping notifications about being reverted either. If it was blatant vandalism, I could move forward, but with it being a good faith thing without much talk page documentation,I really shouldn’t yet. Can you just leave a brief talk page note about it? Then if it subsists, I’ll protect it. Sorry. Just trying to be by the books. Please humor me. Sergecross73   msg me  18:47, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * What I was really asking here was "can you check this out, make sure I'm right, and if so revert this guy so I don't have to be the edit-warring asshole?". But then again, this section on your page is titled "Vandalism", so I think I ought to recalibrate my expectations. I'll make a note on the talk page. Popcornduff (talk) 20:17, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yeah, sorry, most people here are requesting page protection or blocks. Or me to admonish people...but experienced editors usually know that it doesn’t take an admin to do that. And if I intervene directly it may come off as canvassing too, so I generally don’t unless it’s blatant vandalism. And honestly this is one of those things where I’m not even sure which I’d right. It’s the sort of thing I just let people change to whatever their preference is because neither way is actual wrong information detrimental to an encyclopedia. Sergecross73   msg me  22:39, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Got it.
 * Could I ask you take another look at the page, maybe put a temp lock on it? The IP has continued to revert (me and another editor) without any explanation or discussion, over several days. Popcornduff (talk) 13:20, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
 * 2 week'd. -- ferret (talk) 14:33, 21 October 2019 (UTC)


 * looks like you've blocked this one before. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  20:47, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
 * Ah yes, the guy who writes the articles name as the edit summary every time, who knows about sequels to Generations, Mania and Forces, all coming out next year. Yeah, he’s blocked. Sergecross73   msg me  20:59, 23 November 2019 (UTC)


 * Third time requesting this, but Bruce Allen (American football) needs protection again. The article gets daily vandalism, and as much as I understand why people are doing this, Wiki is still not the place for this. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 11:28, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
 * might be Sonic N800, needs checking though. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  14:34, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Looks like it to me. Blocked a month, till he gets another IP anyway. I've mostly given up on trying to stomp on them, unless someone reports it. -- ferret (talk) 14:41, 16 December 2019 (UTC)

I wanted to take this time to let you know that apparently a user by the name of User:MontztheMan likes to apparently use GameFAQs as a means to add games to the list even though GameFAQs is not deemed reliable. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 01:56, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * "one of " and "the only one" isn't different?? "just One of" the expressions does not know whether it is the best or not. so it's not already in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rocco30 (talk • contribs) 15:42, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
 * please contact me. i"m trying to add metacritic on best-videogames-of-the-decade-2010s. is ok? Rocco30 (talk —Preceding undated comment added 05:00, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I don’t follow what you’re getting at here. Nor does it seem relevant to this section, which is about reporting vandalism. Sergecross73   msg me  02:52, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Just wanted to say thank you for that! I appreciate it! Zacharyalejandro (talk) 02:06, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for letting me know. I’ve left him a talk page message about it. My comment was his first-ever comment, so I’m guessing no one has discussed this with him on a talk page yet. He likely just doesn’t know any better. Sergecross73   msg me  02:08, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * If he does it again, however, can I try and revert? And yeah, this seems to be his first outing on the site. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 02:12, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, you can revert, just make sure you are civil if you interact with him, and don’t violate WP:3RR. Feel free to alert me of further issues too. Sergecross73   msg me  02:31, 6 January 2020 (UTC)


 * Just a heads up that User:Matthewkerr123 (contribs) is continuing to add incorrect/false information to the years in video gaming pages. He recently edited 2007 in video gaming; I was about to revert but I've been trying to go through all of their edits to a page when I do so, but there's more than I’m prepared to do at the moment, I really need sleep. redsparta  talk 14:25, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I ended up blocking him. The new edits were more “tweaking” than adding unsourced new content, but digging around, I just can’t believe all these errors are in good faith. There’s no reason to think Mario Golf Wii Tour or Sega Superstars Sports we’re real games, for example. And there’s an awful lot of them, the more and more you dig... Sergecross73   msg me  16:22, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I keep meaning to comb through all their edits to the years in gaming but there’s just so damn many of them I keep putting it off. This will hopefully stop the work from piling up more so tho. redsparta  talk 01:21, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I know what you mean. I haven’t worked on it much yet because I’ve mostly been on mobile, but one of the telltale signs appears to be redlinks - a lot of the redlinks are the hoax games he’s added. We’d probably be okay with just deleting any redlinks honestly - even if they’re not a hoax, a game that doesn’t even have an article probably isn’t exactly a defining game of a year anyways either. It’s probably best they’re removed either way. Sergecross73   msg me  01:59, 7 January 2020 (UTC)


 * The Batman (film) needs protection. There are IPs edit-warring to remove the mention that it's a DCEU film, even though there's consensus for it to remain defined as such until further confirmation. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  15:23, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * ... and also this <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  15:29, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Looks like another admin beat me to it. Let me know if it’s an issue in the future, though he did a month long protection so I would think that would be long enough to deter someone who is clearly NOTHERE. (Seriously, those deleted edit summaries are insane, if you saw them before they were rightfully redacted.) Sergecross73   msg me  17:08, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I didn't see the last one. I'm mad because the others made me crack up because of how friggin' ridiculous they were (it's good they were hidden). I looked into the IP's contribution history and it looks like they might be an LTA, but they've been stopped for now. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  21:22, 12 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Andrew a.k.a. Andy a.k.a. date vandal. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  18:09, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Reblocked. -- ferret (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2020 (UTC)


 * keeps edit warring on the Disney's Aladdin (Virgin Games video game) and The Revenge of Shinobi articles (possibly more), re-adding trivia and cheats (WP:GAMECRUFT) despite being told to stop. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 18:55, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Applied a partial block for both pages for 2 days. --Izno (talk) 20:17, 17 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. Sorry, busy day. Sergecross73   msg me  01:06, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
 * I want to mention that provided these games, which are not intended for a Switch release, as it hasn't been reported for a release anywhere. Can I also make a request that this page be protected against these users please? These seem to be a common thing that also happens every few months or years on this page. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 23:36, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you for alerting me. You are correct, that’s a hoax, and I’ve removed it. But the page really hasn’t receive all that much vandalism. That IP, for some reason, added their vandalism across 10 edits, but they were really just 10 rapid fire small edits, it was really only one actual instance of vandalism. I’ve got the page watch listed though, so I’ll keep an eye on it. Sergecross73   msg me  16:47, 31 January 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't know why I'm editing so late, but I also don't think this warrants as vandalism but this edit from Montztheman appears to doing the whole addition of physical and digital versions of games. But I also don't know if it means anything. I already went ahead and fixed it by only having the digital version listed. Zacharyalejandro (talk) 09:12, 18 February 2020 (UTC)
 * You didn’t really ask anything, so I’m not really sure what you want here. No action taken. Sergecross73   msg me  17:06, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * Template protection request for Template:Washington Redskins staff, as anon users have continued to ignore (even deleting) a hidden note regarding formatting for the past month or so. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 11:16, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
 * Done. Sergecross73   msg me  17:06, 27 February 2020 (UTC)


 * I recognize this name as a vandal from TCRF, and sure enough they're vandalizing here too. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  16:25, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. First edits are pretty clear bad faith edits. Blocked. Sergecross73   msg me  16:29, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
 * vandalism at The Batman (film). <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  14:43, 28 March 2020 (UTC)
 * I dropped a 3 month hammer. Clearly static IP and not going to stop. -- ferret (talk) 14:58, 28 March 2020 (UTC)


 * Not vandalism, but List of starting quarterbacks in the National Football League could use some semi-protection, as anon users always seem to ignore the bolded note saying that only the most recently starting quarterbacks should be added, not future/planned/expected. The regular season for 2020 won't begin until September, assuming the current pandemic even allows it to. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 19:35, 29 March 2020 (UTC)
 * This is still an issue. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 20:07, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Whoops, I did look into it, but never took action. Protected. Sergecross73   msg me  20:12, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * User could use a warning about vague threats and being disruptive. On the List of Persona 5 characters, he continues to add Behind the Voice Actor citations (which is leaning towards being considered unreliable by WT:VG/RS due to its user-submitted format and lack of staff page), even though list has already has good third-party sources for it. And even if the site was considered fully reliable, him adding all the citations would violate WP:OVERCITE anyway. And this is simply conjecture on my part, but the majority of his contributions on Wiki have to do with the site and adding it to articles, making it possible that he's connected to it somehow. ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 20:39, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Heads up, but the user is now going around asking multiple people for me to blocked. He has yet to respond at WT:VG/RS, but took the time to do this? ~ <b style="color: #660000;">Dissident93</b> (<b style="color: #D18719;">talk</b>) 21:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I’ve been busy. I keep checking things, but occasionally forget to comment. But I am here and reading. Anyways, I can’t take any action about BTVA use alone, because it looks like there’s no hard consensus on the matter, but I have warned the editor that those comments aren’t appropriate. I’ve also recommended doing an RFC or something to get a better consensus going, especially since, if I recall right, WP:VG was leaning unreliable, while WP:ANIME was leaning reliable. Sergecross73   msg me  22:25, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
 * vandalism at The Batman (film). In fact, protection of the page itself might be warranted, as it's constantly subject to bad IP edits. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  16:34, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Agreed. Blocked and protected. Sergecross73   msg me  16:40, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Thank you. <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  16:50, 21 April 2020 (UTC)


 * coming off a block, they're back to doing the same thing that got them blocked in the first place (addition of incorrect release dates). <small style="color:red">JOE BRO  64  20:02, 3 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Blocked again. Sergecross73   msg me  22:50, 3 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Vandalism-only account, it seems. I think could be the same user. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 02:56, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Final Warning’d. Sergecross73   msg me  12:04, 9 May 2020 (UTC)


 * While I left a warning, this user's only edits are to vandalize Pikmin (video game), as noted on his own user page. He's clearly not here to do anything useful. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 18:24, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Indef'd. -- ferret (talk) 18:37, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

Discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents
Hello, Sergecross73. There is a discussion at WP:ANI regarding a years-long IP-hopping genre vandal in the 2804 IP range. Since you have dealt with the person/people, any input you would have at the discussion would be appreciated. Thank you. Mungo Kitsch (talk) 07:05, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for saying something. Looks like it worked. Sergecross73   msg me  16:43, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

2020s in video games
Just FYI this was approved out of AfC. I too thought it was WP:TOOSOON, but ultimately I approved it when I noted that the 2010s version was created around the same time a decade ago. I honestly don't care either way. Our standard for approval is very loose. Just something to consider. Cheers Sulfurboy (talk) 02:51, 7 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. If people fight me on it, I’ll likely drop it, but it just seems pointless to have a “decade” article when everything on there fits fine in the respective “year” article at this point. Sergecross73   msg me  12:03, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

psst.
The release date for those Audiovent singles is on Spotify. Unfortunately I think they can only be seen on the mobile app. *wink wink* If you've got any doubt just email the account 2607:FCC8:9E82:2A00:68C4:C295:49F0:DDD4 (talk) 21:59, 8 May 2020 (UTC)


 * Actually I can just do this since school is over now. Still not regularly editing tho.  danny music editor  oops 22:02, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey, good to see you again. Was that you trying to add those dates? I wasn’t sure if Spotify was a legit source for release dates. I’ve found Apple Music to have some questionable dates on releases from prior to the services existence at least. Sergecross73   msg me  12:01, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Indeed, that IP was me. Actually, as it turns out, Spotify mirrors Apple Music like most cases. I can see where you're coming from in regards to strange dates, as I've seen my share, but to me, I think it's just up to us to use common sense as to whether it's credible. If there's any reasonable doubt that the date is accurate, you don't need to use it. I don't see any reason to doubt here, do you?  danny music editor  oops 06:07, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the dates do make sense in the context of the band and albums timeline, and what I know personally (I recall putting Looking Down on a mixed cd in late 2002), so they are at least likely. I won’t oppose them (though I can’t really defend them down the line either if contested by someone else.) Sergecross73   msg me  17:08, 10 May 2020 (UTC)