User talk:Seth Ilys/Archive:2004-Spring

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Well, congratulations on becoming an admin! :-) ugen64 19:54, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)

Hi, Seth. Check Mariposa County. Is that supposed to be Marion County? RickK | Talk 01:45, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Requests for adminship
I'm really sorry about this, and I hope it can get resolved before 1 hour. Anthony DiPierro 04:24, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)

This won't be resolved in an hour and in this hour votes could be lost. I really don't understand your intervention I respect your position but if you cared to follow the issue on the page. Anthony and ugen65 got into an edit war along with myself and Hcheney trying to stop anythony dipierro from vandalizing (deleting and manipulating the vote count) as well as interfering in the ongoing conversation. The convo was then moved to the talk page to be resolved but Anthony dipierro continued to use  parts  of the previous edit war to misrepresent his opponents position I said he should write NEW material if he has something to say he refused....this can be proven by examining the record...also note he has been blocked from numerous other pages while I have not been blocked from one. This vote is close as you can tell it would be sad if the person I am advocating for lost because it was jammed. Thanks for your consideration. GrazingshipIV 04:32, Mar 23, 2004 (UTC)

FYI, since you were the only other editor of the article, you should be aware that the one on Kobe Bryant's accuser has been deleted speedily. Discussion is at Talk:Kobe_Bryant. Fuzheado 03:43, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

IANAL
As I said, I'm not a lawyer. I did a cursory search but can't find anything, but I know I've heard it said on television more than once. RickK | Talk 04:03, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Why do you feel it necessary to include this information on Wikipedia? Jimmy has said it's in bad taste. RickK | Talk 04:10, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

If you undelete it, please restore the Votes for Deletion votes that were deleted when the page was deleted. RickK | Talk 04:13, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Censorhip
If you're so sure that the name is perfectly acceptable to spread all over the world, despite the woman's wishes, why have you censored it on your own page? RickK | Talk 05:04, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

No problem, I do understand your viewpoint, and hold no hard feelings at all. Consider it forgotten. :) - Hephaestos|&#167; 16:21, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Hey, did you ever find any information at the library to put in the thermionic emission article?

P.S. What is the point of the dot project? From your user page, in the end it looks like you will just have a map of the US colored red... - Omegatron 17:11, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)


 * The Dot project is intended to create maps for the Ram-bot generated articles. See Siler City, North Carolina for an example. The maps on my user page are just intended to track the progress of the project.


 * Ah! / Ahhh! That makes much more sense / That is insane.  Have fun.  I hope you have it automated in some way... - Omegatron 17:34, Mar 26, 2004 (UTC)

Fecking Babylon 5 Episodes littering up the Wiki
Seth, clearly you know what you're doing &c., but I just thought I;d check in to discuss with you whether the titles of all of these Babylon 5 episodes you're adding, would not be as well added with a title in the format "Common English Phrase (Babylon 5 episode)", in much the way that I see a great many music albums entered as "Album Title (album)".

I guess the problem I have with the raw phrases being entered, is that they tend to have an idiomatic currency much wider than their use within Babylon 5, and there's a sense in which their being hijacked by Babylon 5, within the wiki, by being entered in their general form rather than being recognisably denoted as a Babylon 5 episode.

(Oh. And I trust you're going to be sad enough to fill out the section headings you've left in each template. It'd be a shame to see 101 new pages added which had one man's aspirational idea as to what the content should be, if same man is unprepared to source said content.)

best wishes --Tagishsimon 13:51, 27 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Yup. You speak sooth. And of course the task you've set yourself is sufficiently mad that we should sit back, possibly light a large cigar or two, and watch you fill them pages out; good luck! --Tagishsimon 02:03, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Request for assistance
Anthony DiPierro insists on restoring the actual name of Kobe Bryant's accuser to the VfD and VfU pages, rather than the censored description we have been using. Since you participated in the discussion, I could use your assistance reasoning with him, whatever your opinion on the subject. --Michael Snow 01:44, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Removing "yet another" was a good idea, sorry I'm just frustrated dealing with Anthony. --Michael Snow 02:08, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Message
A user known as thebam is attempting to discredit and smear me on wikipedia this user was created after my exchange with rickk which MAY be a coincidence eitherway I do beleive he is a sockpuppet created by someone who wants to discredit me as he has no other contributions other than trying to pretend I "struck" a deal to get aat rickk to make myself an admin. Please intervene in this matter. GrazingshipIV 17:28, Mar 28, 2004 (UTC)

Stubbing Metro Stations
Perhaps a good idea, but then again, how much more can one write about Grovesnor-Strathmore? ;) Heck, I lived there for two years and that's all I could think to put for it. :) --Golbez 19:51, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)
 * I agree; after writing Shady Grove, I realized it's the perfect candidate for a stub. :P --Golbez 19:58, 28 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Maps and B5
Just a couple of curious question - Why did you take the B5 wiki project off your page? Got plans, or gave up? Also, just *how* are you making the maps for the Rambot city pages? (And is there a page that explains how Rambot works? :P) --Golbez


 * And what about the second half of my question, the rambot maps? :) --Golbez 03:26, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Why Did You Revert the "Gowan" Page?
Why do you insist on maintaining a page for Yakubu Gowan? Gowon's name has never been spelled in such a fashion, nor do any pages refer to the page in question. Why not just delete it? Its existence is just causing completely unnecessary confusion. Abiola Lapite 21:38, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)


 * Nobody is insisting on "maintaining a page" for Yakubu Gowan. It's only a redirect. It doesn't do any harm, and whether anything links to it (or even whether anyone has ever misspelt it this way) is completely irrelevant. &mdash; Timwi 23:02, 29 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Your maps
Wow, great job with all of those maps. You sure have more patience than I would, creating all of them. RickK | Talk 04:11, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Your maps
Please stop spamming recent changes with your maps and find a way to hide them from the log. Troller 02:00, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Port scanner
Wanna check out Port scanner? Maybe the cleanup notice & stub can be removed. Your call. (Great maps, BTW.) --Tagishsimon

Did you know vs. In the news
You expressed interest in the front page layout on Talk:Main page. Could you please vote in the poll there? Thanks, silsor 07:25, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

Stateinprogress.png
Sorry about the reverts. I accidentally clicked the revert link. It is restored to the latest version now. --Ezhiki 17:10, Apr 7, 2004 (UTC)

1911 Britannica
Seth, I'm not going to shoot you, but mass entries of text from the 1911 Encyclopedia about Indian Princely States (i.e. Alwar) without any editing is a terrible idea. Because, you know, that Maharajah they're talking about has been dead for years. And because the state itself no longer exists, what with India becoming independent in 1947. So that hospital probably doesn't have an English nursemaid anymore, and the railway station might not be quite the same, and so on and so forth. The 1911 is useful, and I've done pretty mass transfers for 19th century British politicians, and so forth, but you've got to be careful with it. (You should also edit for scanning errors.) john 01:51, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)

msg:stublist
You have done 6800 edits in the last 30 days. You must be a good person to approach to discuss the following. I've put together a new msg:stublist with a view to sticking it at the bottom of the many empty & near empty list templates we have, such as 452 BC and 1927 in architecture. I'm inclined to think the job should be done by machine; most entries in most large list series could benefit from the msg; human editors could remove the msg from the pages that are edited from time to time. Clearly the message can/could be improved, if needsbe ... perhaps by starting with a blank line, or the whole thing in a single table... . How would you go about it? Surely not by hand? --Tagishsimon


 * I'm tempted, then to create a second message - msg:stubtemplate - for templates which are not lists ... like the many skeletal music Album and Track pages. And, I suppose, edit the buggers by hand. At the same time, I'll probably try to edit Wikimedia pages so that more cogent advice is given as to the use of the msg:stub~ concept, on the off chance that others pick it up. Sorry to hear about the portable computer situation. We've all been there... --Tagishsimon

Maps
Seth, for some reason Berwick, Iowa article was non-existent. I created the article, but could you please add this town to the list of articles that need one of those wonderful maps of yours? Thanks! --Ezhiki 19:25, Apr 21, 2004 (UTC)
 * I will be creating more similar articles (there have been quite a few updates since 2000 census). Is it OK if I just add the names of the cities that need maps here?  So far I added Booneville and Bradford. --Ezhiki 18:23, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)

Oklahoma Tornado Image
An image you put on the 1999 Oklahoma tornado outbreak appears to be copyrighted. Given your extensive work on Wikipedia, I'm sure this was just a minor oversight on your part (the image was on a NASA site, but was not produced by NASA). Anyway, it's listed on the Copyright problems page right now, so you may want to put a comment there. &mdash;Mulad 06:32, Apr 28, 2004 (UTC)

Washington MediaWiki
Hi Seth, thanks for your edits to Template:Washington. I'm wondering, though--do places like Edmonds, Federal Way, and Lakewood really belong in a list of major cities in Washington? Perhaps we could pare the list down a bit? Lukobe 06:06, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)~

Maps Howto?
How do you make those wonderful maps? Most of Connecticut (heck, most of the whole US, probably) is missing them, and I'm interested in making some. Could you whip up a quick doc for how you find the information and how you bring it together? Thanks. (I see Golbez asked this before, but I see no real answer) - Plutor 13:41, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the pointers, Seth. Uploaded one county's worth of the maps this morning. (i.e. Bridgeport, Connecticut)  Do you have any tips for uploading dozens of files at a time?  Or just a lot of clicking?  - Plutor 15:48, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Largest Cities in Oregon
Hi Seth, I just noticed that you've been adding to a number of cities in Oregon. Not that I have a problem with adding that, but how did Aloha become one of the 20 largest cities in this state? It's little more than a large aggregation of houses, a post office & an Intel campus, with little to no real self-awareness of itself as a community. (As if a group of commuters think of their collective homes as a community.)

I'd remove Aloha from the macro this link points to -- & hopefully replace it with the next largest incorporated city -- but I don't know where that file lies, nor how to access it. If I have convinced you about the unappropriateness of including Aloha here, would you make the change? Thanks -- llywrch 02:25, 1 May 2004 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the info, I've made the change. The inhabitants of West Linn also thank you. (PS -- I hope I didn't come over too assertively; it's just that I never know when I raise an issue with another Wikipedian whom I haven't talked with before whether I just need to say "this is a mistake" & fix it, or I have to write an extensive argument explaning all of the reasons clearly & convincingly. I'm glad to see that you tend towards the first camp.) -- llywrch 16:37, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

Tennessee Counties & Regions
The msg:Tennessee addition you added to the Nashville article is elegant and useful. I didn't know the msg command was that powerful. Good work. RivGuySC 17:33, 1 May 2004 (UTC)

Yarra Junction-In and of-one little word
Seth, thank you for editing Yarra Junction the way you did.

I think I find in the Melbourne stubs, I have written it with little care of 'in' and 'of', which in a geographical context is confusing to say the least.

Yarra Junction is 40 kilometres from Melbourne city, but is considered Greater Melbourne.

Thank you,

EuropracBHIT 04:29, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

Capital Punishment in the United States
You recently added 2 to the total for South Carolina and 5 to the sum? The old sum plus two would be 906, I counted 907 on the list, and you added 909 as the total. Which one is correct? Rmhermen 12:38, May 7, 2004 (UTC)

White whale
Look at the White whale article. Somebody who wants it on keeps putting it back on and wants it to stay on. Does it sound appropriate to you. It doesn't sound appropriate to anyone I know other than the one who keeps putting it on. 66.32.76.38 23:40, 7 May 2004 (UTC)

Maps
Seth - All the maps of Hawaii city/town locations are great! However, in putting the images on each page you are not leaving a space between the "image" and the first paragraph. Because of a quirk in the Wiki software, this causes the paragraph to ident on the first line. This problem can be avoided by always making sure there is a space between the image tag line and the paragraph that follows in edit mode. Thanks. - Marshman 18:07, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
 * OK. Obviously the best way to "solve" is a system fix; I'll not be concerned knowing such a fix is "on ther way" - or is that like "your check is in the mail" ? ;^)  - Marsh

Joining the Dot Project
Seth, I would like to help with the Dot Project if I could. Are we coordinating, or do we just start posting maps for a chosen state? I was going to do some work on Oklahoma, and then I noticed you were already working there. I would like to work on Kansas, Missouri, Ohio or Arizona. Do I need to commit to doing every Rambot-created entry in a state, or can I keep a log so that others can work on the same state? How do I get a list of every Rambot-created entry for a state? Is there some page on the project that I haven't found? Thanks for your work! --Brian Rock 01:27, May 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * Seth said: Essentially, I just take the maps already generated for the county articles, edit them so there's no red, and then go town by town using Mapquest to plot the locations and paste the dot in the right location manually. The little red circle is five pixels in diameter.
 * Now there's a possibility - I can fix up the county maps for each state. I already did it for Oklahoma before I found out you were working on it, and I've done it for Missouri, too. I think a blank county map for each state might be useful for things other than the Dot Project. Think that's a worthy start? If so, what would be the best way to post maps like this for both the Dot Project, and for other uses? --Brian Rock 01:47, May 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * Ok. There is a page called WikiProject_U.S._Counties/checklist that has a record for each county's map in it (but no blanks that I can see). Maybe I can create a WikiProject_U.S._Counties/blankmaps entry and store them there. I can talk this over with The Anome, who seems to have used his bot to load up the checklist. Anyway, I think I have a project. Thanks. --Brian Rock 02:01, May 13, 2004 (UTC)


 * I've created a blank state map for Arizona (not as nice as I'd like) and Missouri (pretty good). I've uploaded them and created a link on the List of Arizona counties and List of Missouri counties pages. I think the Arizona page suffers from few lines, mostly straight, which get aliased (I think that's the term). Missouri's just about the opposite, not many straight lines with the borders of the state, so aliasing isn't a problem. Any comments on style, competence, choice of page to link to, etc., is welcome. --Brian Rock 00:16, May 14, 2004 (UTC)


 * Seth, I just wasn't happy with the quality of the maps I was producing. I decided to go back to the original source, it seems to be Indiana State University (the University of Texas site just linked to the Indiana State site). I'm double checking copyright status - once it's resolved, I'll upload the new maps in full resolution and probably 67% versions, which are similar to the size of the current maps. I hope to have an answer on the copyright status early next week. I'll keep you posted. --Brian Rock 03:09, May 15, 2004 (UTC)


 * Seth, I took your advise on splicing maps together. I'll worry about nicer base maps in the future, since it looks like it's going to take some sleuthing. I'm starting on Missouri. --Brian Rock 00:08, May 20, 2004 (UTC)


 * I've been playing around with regression-based formulas for dropping the dots on maps based on latitude/longitude pairs mapped to the coordinate system of the Missouri county map I'm using. Pretty accurate although not perfect - border cities occasionally wind up one pixel on the wrong side. I'm going to look at things a bit more closely before it becomes the way I do things, but I suspect with a bit of eyeball correction, it will be better than just eyeballing, particularly in urban areas. Let me know if you're interested, and I'll provide more details. No need to contact me if you're not interested. Best wishes. --Brian Rock 03:13, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You
I've been meaning to tell you, you rock. The amount of effort you put into Wikipedia is awesome. - Mark 14:05, 13 May 2004 (UTC)

nice work...
on Sharbat Gula! Kingturtle 00:27, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Yay for laptops!
And yay for the rather funky "leave a message" URL. But I'm glad you're to be reunited with the lappie and, IIRC, the images awaiting upload. Now you'll have no excuse for slacking ;) --Tagishsimon

Father's remarks
Cut from article:


 * Berg's family blamed the U.S. government and policies that led to his arrest and detainment in April, for creating the circumstances that led to Nick's death. Michael Berg stated that if his son hadn't been detained for so long, he might have been able to leave the country before the violence worsened.  His father reportedly stated: "I think a lot of people are fed up with the lack of civil rights this thing has caused. I don't think this administration is committed to democracy."

This should, at least, be balanced with news reports about FBI agents visiting Berg 3 times while he was in custody; offering to get him out (and Berg refusing!); and offering to transport him out of the country after Iraqis released him from jail.

Would someone take care of this, please? --Uncle Ed 20:09, 13 May 2004 (UTC)


 * I've restored the text with a small note regarding how Berg refused assistance in leaving the country. I feel compelled to point out that the removal of this quote was inappropriate -- if an article is NPOV, then the best solution is to *add* content describing other POVs and not to cut content that reflects one. We don't delete articles because they're incomplete or imperfect. -- Seth Ilys 13:41, 14 May 2004 (UTC)


 * No need to lecture me on NPOV, Seth. I'm user #188, and I've been doing it longer than almost anybody else around here. I didn't remove the text; I cut-and-pasted it into this talk page for a quick, easy fix that I didn't have time to make. On highly controversial subjects, especially about breaking news stories, it's probably better to avoid putting in ANY unbalanced remarks. --Uncle Ed 17:20, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Fredy Perlman
No worries. You are right about the webpage source (which is in turn a reproduction of the Fifth Estate piece), but both the website and the magazine are anarchist projects which are not just non-copyright, but explicitly anti-copyright. Everything that appears on both Fifth Estate and the Spunk library can be freely pirated and quoted (as can all of Fredy's works). --Uri 21:13, 15 May 2004 (UTC)

Sethbot
Hey, I noticed the discussion about the sethbot. I was planning on doing just this task and responded in Wikipedia talk:Bots accordingly. When were you planning to start this? Just curious. BTW, I was waiting to do some of this because of the current ongoing controversy over how to name cities. If the policy would happen to change, all of your redirects might point to other redirects thus creating double redirects. You may find it more useful just to wait this one out until that discussion is complete. See: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (city names) and Talk:New_York,_New_York -- Ram-Man 16:32, May 17, 2004 (UTC)

Maryland as a dart board
I just have this image of you throwing darts, dipped in red ink, at a map of Maryland... - T&#949;x &#964; ur&#949; 00:51, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

How far do you plan on going...
...for your BCE re-directs?? 66.32.251.152 01:26, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

Sethbot
Sethbot is now marked as a bot on the English Wikipedia. If you significantly change what the bot is doing, please ask for this to be removed at requests for permissions and check on wikipedia talk:bots that the new version of the bot is also approved before running it. Thank you. Angela. 13:21, May 24, 2004 (UTC)

It might be an idea to go through Sethbot's user contributions, and remove the pages it created and should not have. This happens when the city page is a disambiguation page: The pages that it refers to then have titles that would not be automatically linked to.

Going through the list, I find: Andre Engels 07:08, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
 * Abington, Plymouth County, MA
 * Abington Township, Lackawanna County, PA
 * Abington Township, Montgomery County, PA
 * Adams, Green County, WI
 * Adams, Jackson County, WI
 * Adams (CDP), Berkshire County, MA
 * Adams (CDP), MA
 * Adams (city), Adams County, WI
 * Adams (city), WI
 * Adams (town), Adams County, WI
 * Adams (town), Berkshire County, MA
 * Adams (town), MA
 * Adams (town), WI
 * 9 times Adams Township in MI and PA
 * etcetera


 * Andre, I agree. Some of those redirects don't need to exist and there's no benefit from having them. I'll go through and purge them every so often -- probably when I finish each letter of the alphabet, because that's easiest to keep track of. -- Seth Ilys 12:51, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
 * I don't know how many you've done (Sunnyside, WA doesn't seem to be there yet), but you might want to consider a comment I left at Wikipedia_talk:Bots. Niteowlneils 22:57, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

pagelayout
thanks for your comments have put remarks about them on the page under yours--BozMo|talk 17:34, 27 May 2004 (UTC)

Back Up For Adminship
Hello, just letting you know that I am back up for adminship. It is at the bottom under the self nominations section. ChrisDJackson

As you add your maps...
... do you think you could take an extra 3 secs and do a quick cut&paste of ", USA, " to all those many, many rambot articles that don't indicate what country they're talking about? Of course, given number of maps n, perhaps 3n is a nontrivial amount of seconds... –Hajor 17:54, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

194.8.54.248 - 194.8.54.251 anon
I have re-reported 194.8.54.248, 194.8.54.249, 194.8.54.250, 194.8.54.251 (the guy who keeps changing dates) in Vandalism in progress. You previously reported it (only under the first of the above IP addresses). -- Curps 14:16, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)