User talk:SeventhHaido

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 June 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 16:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Trigun
Just FYI: Those edits on Trigun were not my work, but I felt their deletion was not justified, so I restored them. ++Arx Fortis 15:23, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks anyway. When people vandalize the article by removing the section on relationships just because of their own misgivings, I usually revert to pre-vandalism, which means taking out anything else done in the meantime. It sucks, but I'm hoping people eventually get the message that their own homophobia isn't a reason to edit out a legitimate perspective on a possible angle in the manga. ~SeventhHaido 04:24, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Deleting a purely speculative section of an article that is supposed to be UNBIASED and not fanon, isn't vandalism. That Japanese spider crab article was a joke, and that's the only vandalism that I can think of. I was bored. Everything else I have done is completely serious. I have no problem with gay guys, but I DO have a problem with gay guys who call everyone else gay, and say things like "Everyone's at least a little bit bisexual." Wolfwood slept with Merryl. Vash has loved Rem from the start. Wolfwood and Vash were CLOSE FRIENDS and that's all. Just because you're a wappanese yaoi fanboy doesn't mean that every male character in anime, whether you've "analyzed" the manga or not, is gay. Why can't two men love each other PLATONICALLY? Notice how most other people keep deleting that section. I'm glad I haven't been able to find it in the article yet. Wikipedia is supposed to be objective. That means not callng everyone gay based on your idealistic fanon where everyone in anime is gay/bi. Only in yaoi, and other manga specifically meant to be about homosexual relationships, are characters gay/bi. I also note that you didn't cite your sources. You aren't a professional book critic. When you find evidence that supports your fanon, you're supposed to cite your sources. And not with the section of the manga where they say so. With critical outside evidence. Like a book critic sharing your opinion. So, find me a critic (and NOT one of your stupid gay lovers from a Trigun forum) who has the same findings that you do, or an interview with Nightow, and I'll stop deleting it. ForestAngel 08:53, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

And how was my removing of the section a personal attack? I've only personally attacked ONE person, who was a real asshole. ForestAngel 08:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

See, I can prove that you're not allowed to do that and you need sources. No original research. Calling anime characters gay is original research, even with quotes from the manga, and therefore, biased. You are violating Wikipedia rules for articles, thereby lowering the quality and value of the article. Have you ever looked at the disclaimer for each edit? It says "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Not with quotes from the book, or pure speculation of quotes within the book, but verifiable from an outside, unbiased source. For example, a verifiable source would be Nightow saying something along the lines of "Vash and Wolfwood are gay lovers" in an interview. If you keep putting that section of the article up, I will have no choice but to put a banner up questioning the neutrality of the section every time that you do. ForestAngel 09:24, 9 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I saw the link to mentioned. That looks like marketing that were altered to reflect a "western" style of denoting the $$.  It looks like that was done sometime after the series was produced.  I'm traveling on business at the moment, but when I return home I will get a screenshot of the way its shown in the opening sequence and post it to the article.  Thanks for showing me the link.  ++Arx Fortis 22:33, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Please, take your homophobic and uninformed verbal diarrhea to a proper disposal location. I have no need for it here. Why are you so angry about this anyway?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Verifiability says nothing about third-party primary sources being unverifiable. Citing the manga itself, in an article about it, is perfectly allowable per Wikipedia policy. The only way it would need additional third party verification would be if I was Yasuhiro Nightow. Since I am not him, citing the manga is more than enough, as it is the primary source for information on itself. ___________________________________________________________________

Saying that you're Nightow is plagiarism, not original research. Original research is claiming that you're an authority on the subject. "Third-party primary sources" is an oxymoron. Primary means first. The verifiable part isn't about whether it's in the manga or not. The verifiable part is about the opinions and interpretation, not whether or not they say those quotes. If you can find an external source (like I said, a book critic) who says the words "Vash's and Wolfwood's sexuality and relationship is up to the reader's speculation," then I'll accept it. The published manga has weight with quotes, but NOT with amateur interpretation and criticism. If you seek book critics, that's not original research. Original research is claiming to be an authority on the subject. I am NOT homophobic. I have gay friends, and I love them to death. I DON'T like when people tell me what sexuality I am when they don't even know me. I completely support gay rights and marriage. So don't call me a bigot when you don't even know me. I just don't like yaoi. ForestAngel 11:12, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

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Your personal thoughts on yaoi have no more weight than mine, no matter how much of a bigot you wish to be, and being louder and more angry does not equate to being right. However, the published manga does have some weight in an article that happens to be about it.

Nor does it fall under the original research prohibition. It would fall under said prohibition if I was Nightow, if I interviewed him or interviewed someone who worked on the translation, if I sought the reviews of book critics, or if I did anything else you're suggesting, I would be doing original research. I quoted the manga itself as a primary source and tried to compose a non-list section of events in it suggesting a male/male relational subtext between Wolfwood and Vash.

Fine, put up your neutrality banner. I'm going to revert your sock's edit right now, and unless you can prove that I'm Nightow or that primary source material cannot be cited in articles about it, you're looking more and more like a angry fanbrat who needs to get some perspective. Step away from the computer a while.

By the way, Wolfwood slept with Milly/Millie in the anime, not with "Merryl." Which is spelled "Meryl." Also, Wolfwood did not sleep with Milly OR Meryl in the manga. ~SeventhHaido 10:39, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I realized my mistake about the name minutes after I turned my computer off, (I was really really tired) but I decided to just go to sleep. My mistake. ForestAngel 10:58, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

Sheerness FAC
Hi. I'm sorry to bother you, but as a LoCE member, I just wondered if you would be willing to have a look through the Sheerness article. It is currently a Featured Article Candidate and needs a copy-edit for grammar by someone who hasn't yet seen it. Any other ways to improve the article would also be welcome. Thank you very much, if you can. Epbr123 12:23, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

WikiProject Japan taskforces
In order to encourage more participation, and to help people find a specific area in which they are more able to help out, we have organized taskforces at WikiProject Japan. Please visit the Participants page and update the list with the taskforces in which you wish to participate. Links to all the taskforces are found at the top of the list of participants.

Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for helping out! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

WP:CVU status
The Counter-Vandalism Unit project is under consideration to be moved to and/or  status. Another proposal is to delete or redirect the project. You have been identified as a project member and your input as to this matter would be welcomed at WT:CVU and at the deletion debate. Thank you! Delivered on behalf of xaosflux 17:41, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 16:00, 6 July 2007 (UTC).

Fake? needs references
As you have expressed interest in improving Japanese rock articles, will you go see what you can do about adding reliable sources to the Fake? article? I've marked it as needing references, but some anon and a new editor keep removing the tag. Therefore, it would be extremely helpful if you could help add references to the article. I've never heard of Fake? until now, so I'm not sure where to even look for info. Thanks! ··· 日本穣 ? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I would, but that band isn't one I'm familiar with. I'm more familiar with Gackt and hyde and L'Arc~en~Ciel, for example.

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 17:31, 11 October 2007 (UTC).

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
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Hey, Peeps, it's that time of the month again (no not that time &mdash; get your mind out of the gutter): time for another monthly edition of the LGBT Project's Love Boat newsletter from your cruise director Miss Julie. So much has been happening this month and I just can't wait to tell you all about it!!!

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Alice and her harasser
Let's start with some good news: Alice and the project lost the bothersome sock puppet who had been disrupting many articles we monitor, and now most of us can edit in relative peace. Congratulations, Alice, for being able to come out of semi-retirement. Benjiboi, on the other hand, has gained an anonymous IP stalker who seems to be more Catholic than the Pope and who has a hard-on for the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence. We seem to have a sort of Yin and Yang thing going on here, which helps both to keep us in balance and on our toes.

Harry Potter and his homosexual teacher
Albus Dumbledore got outed this month, and was immediately adopted by our project. The international brouhaha surrounding this disclosure reached all the way to Wikiland, and his article was briefly locked due to homophobic vandalism (as well as well meaning editors who just couldn't believe that that nice man could possibly be gay). This is a wonderful article to add to your watchlist, and will surely give you hours of reverting fun on cold winter days.

"My Fellow Americans"
On a more serious note, Fireplace has suggested a new article series about LGBT rights in the United States, state by state. This ambitious topic will surely require many editors and a lot of research, but has the potential to add further prestige to our already prestigious project.

Same name, same sexuality: a riddle for the ages
Francis Bacon (not the new gay one, but the old gay one ... though they're actually both dead, now that I think about it) has also aroused passions here on Wikipedia, with editors opposing his sexuality being disclosed in his biography. The always helpful Haiduc has thoughtfully provided any number of sources, but it is slow going getting his point across. Anyone want to lend a hand?

Beat writer arouses Irish guy
And speaking of passions, Jack Kerouac has inflamed the senses once again with editors, including administrator Irishguy, mounting a spirited defense to keep him as heterosexual as possible for Wikipedia purposes. Why? I don't know. Perhaps some of you can drop by the talk page and ask your questions there. I feel certain a stimulating debate will ensue that will be enjoyed by all.

Love those Texas Longhorns
Did you know that one of our Featured articles, Lawrence v. Texas, lost its shiny gold star? That was a shocker. It has been suggested that we turn our attention to it in an effort to restore it to its former glory. I took a peek, and it does need our help badly. For our American editors, it would seem almost a civic duty to edit it (not that I'm hinting....).

Point and Counterpoint
Though it was far too intellectual a debate for a mere cruise director like myself to take part in, Intersexuality was certainly a hot topic a week or two ago. The thrust of the debate was over inclusion in our project. Lots of good editors had lots of good opinions. For those too lazy to check out the discussion, we decided to leave it out for now.

Drudgery on offer
Peer review is, as always, short staffed and seemingly unloved. Wouldn't you feel better about yourself and the world in general if you took a few minutes to read one of the listed articles and offer some helpful advice? I know I'd feel better if you did.
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"My Fellow Americans" redux
The article LGBT movements in the United States certainly raised eyebrows last week, especially when it was discovered that copyrighted content had been added to our article. Tragedy was averted at the last minute, though, when the original hosts of the article where the material had been pilfered agreed to make it free to everyone. Our thanks to them, whoever they are. Busy Bee that I am, I haven't had time to read it, but I'm sure it's sensational.

This month's Wiki stars
Lesbian pulp fiction (a genre close to my heart, I must confess) writer Ann Bannon has decided to spice up the featured articles candidates list this month. Why not drop by and make your opinion heard? Joining her in this lofty aspiration are the articles But I'm a Cheerleader and Conversion therapy. I'm sure their main editors would welcome any comments (well, helpful ones, anyway) on the talk pages or the FAC discussions. And lest we forget, the List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: Sd-Si became a Featured list!! Rah rah, siskumbah! Go, team, GO!!!!

And the Oscar goes to...
Not content to run for Best Actress, plucky Bannon won a Best supporting actress Oscar... whoops, I meant to say Ann is also getting more than her share of womanly attention on the Good Article list. Joining her on this exalted plane are Freddy Mercury, Waylon Smithers and Lance Bass. Good articles indeed, and the last one mentioned just goes to show that one needn't admire the subject of an article to appreciate the effort put into making him worthwhile reading. What on earth Britney ever saw in him I'll never know. Truly a riddle cloaked in an enigma and wrapped around a puzzle.

Fresh faces to brighten our pages
Though I may not be the first, let me extend a warm, LGBT Love Boat welcome to the 12 new members who joined us in October: Jliberty, JockCub360, ChristopherEdwards, Desiderius82, Zlrussell, Kelsied, BeardedWoof, Mujerado, Tyrfing, Fabgurrl, Redl@nds597198, and decafdyke! Whatever you choose to do here, I feel sure that your contributions will enhance our project to no end. And if they don't...well, let's just say that I'm not shy.

Leather and lace
On a personal note, your already overworked cruise director is being cyberly whipped almost daily by Nemissimo, who desperately wants to get the German BDSM translation copy edited and used as a replacement for the current one. It's such a ... err, stimulating topic that I am sure many of you will want to join the copy editing fun. Jump right in, folks! It's so lonely copy editing it all by my lonesome!

Late breaking news
A little birdie just whispered in my ear that our noble collaboration project was delisted from the Community Portal due to inactivity. When asked how this scandalous turn of events could have occurred, the answer I received was "we suck at stuff like that". Well. In the first place, I disagree that sucking should be considered a negative, but to each his or her own. In the second place, I have full confidence that we can and will collaborate with other projects in the future. So let's not view this as a setback (even though it is), but rather a challenge to improve (and good Lord, I sound almost Wikipedian!).

Champagne dreams and caviar kisses
Lastly, the holidays are rapidly approaching. Our American cousins are currently getting ready to slaughter masses of poultry in an effort to show their gratitude and generally peaceful demeanor, and those of the Canadian persuasion, trendsetters that they are, celebrated a bit early this year. I'm sure all us foreigners will join together in wishing them all a very happy Thanksgiving on their respective holidays, both already celebrated and forthcoming... though I would hope somebody would enlighten me as to why they don't celebrate it on the same day. I was awake all last night trying to figure that one out. - In the spirit of this peculiarly North American holiday, let me take a moment to thank all of our editors for their contributions to this project. It's people like you who make people like me...well, a "people person"! May all your Wiki days be bright, and may your Love Boat never turn into a Poseidon.
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Kisses,

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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter
Delivered on 20:05, 3 December 2007 (UTC). SatyrBot 21:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

League of Copyeditors roll call
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Notice of Inactivity
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Dear Wikiproject Anti-stub member
Please be aware that I intend to restart this long defunct wikiproject. Good day, 75* 19:33, 13 June 2014 (UTC)

Wiki Loves Pride!
 You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride!


 * What? Wiki Loves Pride, a campaign to document and photograph LGBT culture and history, including pride events
 * When? June 2015
 * How can you help?
 * 1.) Create or improve LGBT-related articles and showcase the results of your work here
 * 2.) Upload photographs or other media related to LGBT culture and history, including pride events, and add images to relevant Wikipedia articles; feel free to create a subpage with a gallery of your images (see examples from last year)
 * 3.) Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Or, view or update the current list of Tasks. This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. Visit the group's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Wikipedia, plain and simple, and all are welcome!

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's main talk page.

Thanks, and happy editing!

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Wiki Loves Pride 2016
As a participant of WikiProject LGBT studies, you are invited to participate in the third annual Wiki Loves Pride campaign, which runs through the month of June. The purpose of the campaign is to create and improve content related to LGBT culture and history. How can you help?
 * Create or improve LGBT-related Wikipedia pages and showcase the results of your work here
 * Document local LGBT culture and history by taking pictures at pride events and uploading your images to Wikimedia Commons
 * Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Looking for topics? The Tasks page, which you are welcome to update, offers some ideas and wanted articles.

This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. The group's mission is to develop LGBT-related content across all Wikimedia projects, in all languages. Visit the affiliate's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Wikipedia, plain and simple, and all are welcome! If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's talk page.

Thanks, and happy editing! --- Another Believer ( Talk ) 21:18, 30 May 2016 (UTC)

Asian 10,000 Challenge invite
Hi. The WikiProject Asia/The 10,000 Challenge has recently started, based on the UK/Ireland The 10,000 Challenge and WikiProject Africa/The 10,000 Challenge. The idea is not to record every minor edit, but to create a momentum to motivate editors to produce good content improvements and creations and inspire people to work on more countries than they might otherwise work on. There's also the possibility of establishing smaller country or regional challenges for places like South East Asia, Japan/China or India etc, much like The 1000 Challenge (Nordic). For this to really work we need diversity and exciting content and editors from a broad range of countries regularly contributing. At some stage we hope to run some contests to benefit Asian content, a destubathon perhaps, aimed at reducing the stub count would be a good place to start, based on the current WikiProject Africa/The Africa Destubathon which has produced near 200 articles in just three days. If you would like to see this happening for Asia, and see potential in this attracting more interest and editors for the country/countries you work on please sign up and being contributing to the challenge! This is a way we can target every country of Asia, and steadily vastly improve the encyclopedia. We need numbers to make this work so consider signing up as a participant! Thank you. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 02:33, 21 October 2016 (UTC)