User talk:Severo/Archive 8

Sport stubs
Just to let you know that as I am currently sorting through I may be creating some of the tags off your proposed list. I will only be creating the template and not necessarily populating them. Just to save a few edits. I thought I better let you know just incase your wandering who/why they have been created. Waacstats (talk) 13:27, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Cheers, but feel free to populate the categories if you have time ;) SeveroTC 13:53, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

Sports team stubs
I think that ultimatley that would be a good idea, especially for those countries that have a new sport stub category. When I next have a spare couple of hours I will look into it, at the moment I am stuck with only editing for short periods, probably till sunday afternoon or next weekend. Waacstats (talk) 23:26, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

foo-sport-stub
I assume the figures you give next to the templates in the proposal for the by country sport stubs were gathered form catscan, what categories did you search because I'm either doing way to narrow a search or it stops working for me. Waacstats (talk) 17:48, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * IIRC they were figures derived from recursing four levels that transcluded foo-stub. I don't remember but I think I used AWB to get these numbers but the few countries I have looked at in more details so far suggest a big reluctance of editors to use foo-stub on sports articles (in these cases, I have used CatScan to find small articles in the same level of categories and manually added foo-stub tags before resorting later). I've just done some rechecks of numbers and I'm getting similar numbers again. I'm busy right now but I will return to this task during the week, I haven't forgotten about it! SeveroTC 21:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
 * I wasn't trying to rush you, just had some spare time myself. I had noticed the reluctance when going through sports teams, amazing how many didn't have a nationality tag. Waacstats (talk) 00:51, 6 March 2011 (UTC)

List of Maltese People
I didn't understand where your edit summary says "UCI ProTour doesnt exist (David Millar)" - what does 'doesn't exist' mean in this context? Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 21:44, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
 * The UCI ProTour ceased to exist, first as a ranking for riders a couple of years ago and then altogether at the end of last year. It was replaced by the UCI World Tour. I changed Millar's description to one that won't need changing every few years. SeveroTC 08:10, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I thought it must be something like that. Dougweller (talk) 17:31, 12 March 2011 (UTC)

An invite
Hi Severo, can I tempt you (and your camera) to Derby?, hope to see you at Derby Museum on the 9th. Sign up for free lunch, tour etc Victuallers (talk) 19:49, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Don't live anywhere near any more, I'm afraid! SeveroTC 20:05, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Service award level
 There has been a major revision of the the Service Awards: the edit requirements for the higher levels have been greatly reduced, to make them reasonably attainable. Because of this, your Service Award level has been changed, and you are now eligible for a higher level. I have taken the liberty of updating your award on your user page.

Herostratus (talk) 21:08, 24 March 2011 (UTC)

New AWB snapshot available
Better download this http://toolserver.org/~awb/snapshots/AutoWikiBrowser5201_rev7660.zip Much faster and less buggy. -- Magioladitis (talk) 10:09, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

A note on B-class assessments
I just noticed you assessed this article as B class] for WP POLAND. I am afraid it does not meet our criteria for B-class. As you might have noted, we are now manually reviewing our articles for B-class. Feel free to join our discussions on WT:POLAND. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 23:17, 26 March 2011 (UTC)

Red dwarf stubs
Hey Severo,

I just added the red dwarf template on gliese 745. You might want to check it out, because Wikiproject astronomy doesn't know of it yet. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clammybells (talk • contribs) 12:07, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi, with new stub types, you should leave it a few days between proposing and implementing. Even for new stubs which meet the "speediable criteria" (as I think this one does), it needs a day or two just to make sure the naming is good and everything. I raised one point - I expect the other people who contribute to that page to either agree with me or come up with something better (usually they do this second one!). So for now, my advice is just to hang back on it, maybe create the list of articles you think need tagging in your userspace and then in a few days, roll it out to all the articles. Hope that helps :) SeveroTC 16:05, 22 April 2011 (UTC)

I moved the template to this page. As a reward for your duties, I reward you:

Monitor. WikiProject Poland Newsletter: Issue 1 (April 2011)
Delivered by EdwardsBot (talk) 21:22, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

:)
Thanks Severo... Elmacenderesi   undefined   00:57, 14 May 2011 (UTC)

Rider templates
Hi Severo, I was looking through today, and noticed some inconsistency in the naming convention of these templates: There are pro's and con's with all of them, but I think we should settle on one naming convention, don't you think? lil2mas (talk) 12:16, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) Some use the UCI-code of the team: SAX
 * 2) Some use the team name: Omega Pharma-Lotto
 * 3) ...and finally, my favourite; team name riders: Euskaltel-Euskadi riders


 * Yes, this came up at WT:CYC a few months ago (here) because some disused ones were opposed at routine deletion. There are no guidelines for what templates should be called but I think it would be a good idea to standardise. SeveroTC 12:22, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I read through the discussion, but it seems to concentrate itself on the idea of categorising past team members. I was thinking more of the present aspect, for navigational purposes mainly. However, if I might add, uncontroversial category moves (like the changing of a team name) can be done easily in a couple of days at WP:Categories for discussion/Speedy ;) lil2mas (talk) 13:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I meant the "Do me a favor" section, not the next section. It's only a couple of remarks at that point. SeveroTC 13:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Aha, my bad! :p lil2mas (talk) 14:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * ...but back to the templates; you say that you are positive to a standardisation. All of my examples will be needing update (template move) with a team name change, so that is no issue in this discussion. I noticed, however, that you were the one who moved my third example, stating it to be "more descriptive". I agree with you on that, so either we choose the UCI-code or the team name it should contain the suffix; riders. UCI-codes changes less than team names (...i think!), but the team name is less ambiguous and more descriptive. Would you agree with me on changing all templates to my third example, and make the UCI-code as a redirect? lil2mas (talk) 13:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Generally yes, I think it's a good idea. The trouble with the three-letter codes is that the UCI don't bother to try to make them unique against the IOC's list of three-letter country codes, which I think have more importance! I think a more descriptive name is better but of course template redirects mean we don't have to change any of the actual articles they are transcluded in. You could bring it up at WT:CYC but I don't think it's that controversial so just be bold :) SeveroTC 13:55, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * I agree; IOC > UCI. We could also end up with UCI-codes like CIA, FBI, NBA, etc.. So I will start moving the templates, and maybe post a notice on WT:CYC ;) Thanks, lil2mas (talk) 14:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)


 * There's also possible scope for non-rider navigation templates in the near future, especially with the season articles we now have, which is why I favour suffixing them with riders (i.e. having Omega Pharma-Lotto seasons and Omega Pharma-Lotto riders templates). SeveroTC 13:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, good to be proactive. =) lil2mas (talk) 14:14, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

good work re: George Bliss
I worked for George. I noticed that you helped to keep his wiki page free from vandels. You may like some of the additions I recently put on there. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frank.manus (talk • contribs) 15:41, 29 May 2011 (UTC)

Warsaw Metro
Stadion metro station is in Stockholm and I can find no entry for Warsaw. The former naming convention was used to avoid such a potential conflict. I have changed the navbox to include Stadion Narodowy metro station and Dworzec Wileński metro station to match Polish Wikipedia. The line is not yet finished and they were both formerly red links. I have also corrected the stations template which is related to the succession boxes. Please watch that in any future renamings that all associated templates are adjusted. Sw2nd (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your input. I will assume you don't have knowledge of Polish language - Warszawa Wileńska and Dworzec Wileński are two ways of expressing the same thing - it's like saying London Blackfriars or Blackfriars station. I would advise that if there were expressed reasons for having the previous naming convention then this would be written down within a naming convention (Naming conventions (stations) isn't used). I was going to come back to both the stations you mention to make them better (in the first case find an unambiguous name, in the second add some information on the metro station part of the station) but as you can see they were in my last few minutes of editing yesterday so I had not yet had time. SeveroTC 04:49, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Ah! I've got the name thing now. I simply followed the names from Polish Wikipedia which has a separate article for the metro station and the railway station. According to official diagrams, the metro station (to be called "Dworzec Wilenski") will be built under Plac Wilenski near to the railway station, but not within the building. If you intend to integrate the two stations (like the Blackfriars example), I will need to fix the succession templates so that the metro station name points to the appropriate section of that railway station article. If not - I don't need to do anything. Will you include more information about Line 2 in the Warsaw Metro article? It needs to be expanded - and I don't know the language. That was a big move, of most of the stations in Poland, but you have created some consistency there now. Since you are doing this moving thing. Don't you think that Category:Warsaw Metro stops should be moved to Category:Warsaw Metro stations, to match most of the others under the parent Category:Rapid transit stations? Sw2nd (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * It's next on my list after finishing the stations moving job, which arose, to be perfectly honest, because of the ghastly (PKP station) suffix. I don't know how the stops category name was chosen but it does sound wrong to me as well. I was thinking the Dworzec Wileński one to put the Warsaw Metro info in the existing article. I will try to write a bit more about Line 2 in the main article. And on Polish Wikipedia they sometimes write separate articles for platforms on the same station if they are used by different services, which just seems to lead to a doubling up of information and not particularly useful for the reader when the page isn't so long. BTW, on some of the station articles, it says that the owner is Zarząd Transportu Miejskiego - I have a feeling it might be Warsaw Metro - do you perhaps know off the top of your head? SeveroTC 17:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * ZTM is the government agency that manages all public transport systems in Warsaw. Having an umbrella agency or department that oversees all of that stuff for the city is normal. English examples are the Passenger transport executives. Supertram (Sheffield) is operated by Stagecoach, but is owned by the South Yorkshire Passenger Transport Executive. Sw2nd (talk) 21:34, 15 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Stub articles created for Stadion Narodowy metro station and Dworzec Wileński metro station. They are very similar in structure and content to previous metro stations under construction. Sw2nd (talk) 16:09, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Naming convention
If somebody creates a series of station articles all named in a particular manner, I am willing to accept it as the naming convention for that system. If they do the heavy work - I will give them a hand. You have changed all of the Warsaw Metro stations' titles and I hope you are willing to complete the job. Most metro systems worldwide use the convention "station name (system)". Look at a few large systems in major capital cities: Paris Métro, Berlin U-Bahn, Rome Metro, Moscow Metro, Delhi Metro, Washington Metro, São Paulo Metro. Looks like a naming convention to me - and there are many more examples. There are a few metro systems that simply use a suffix of "station" or "metro station", and that's OK, but the majority use the system name in brackets. I did not come here to debate what naming convention you chose to use. I came to help by fixing a few linking problems caused by the moves. Sw2nd (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, didn't mean to be abrasive if I seemed that way - I was frustrated that there wasn't already something written down as it looks as though people gave up with Naming conventions (stations) with all the American examples which perhaps are not representative of the rest of the world. If I had the time, I would try to get something together there, but as always, time is limited! SeveroTC 17:48, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * You appear quite cooperative. I think you are searching for truth, the meaning of life or a better Polish station. I weighted the examples above towards major European capitals; Paris, Berlin, Rome and Moscow, with only one example each from Asia, North America and South America. Don't believe everything you read. I've seen several people write essays and instructions outlining how people should do things on Wikipedia, without every creating any substantial content themselves. It's an observation from life. Look at what people do, not what they say. Sw2nd (talk) 21:33, 15 June 2011 (UTC)
 * S-line looks somewhat confusing for me - I might have to ask for your help in building the entries for Polish railway lines when I get round to fleshing them out a bit more. SeveroTC 09:35, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

WP Cycling in the Signpost
"WikiProject Report" would like to focus on WikiProject Cycling for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Other editors will also have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. -Mabeenot (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Wust
"wust won 12 in veulta, plus one each in giro and tour." Quite right, sorry about the mistake on my part. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Legion211 (talk • contribs) 14:51, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Not a list
Despite being currently mostly a list, articles like Talk:Ministry of Culture and National Heritage (Poland) are not intended to be lists, and thus their assessment should be regular stub/start/etc., not list. Would you mind updating the few errant assessments from Category:List-Class Poland-related articles? Thanks, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; talk to me 20:05, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It was an assessment based upon categorisation, i.e. . Even so, I don't know why you raise it here: I think you are referring to four articles so it seems a bit odd that you raise it here instead of just fixing it. Oh well done now anyway. SeveroTC 06:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)