User talk:Sgreene11/Pegoscapus

outline feedback
Really awesome Shivani! I just have a few comments on the structure of the article. You've done a great job organizing the ideas into sections. I suggest changing the order of the sections a bit to help the flow of information. You might start with a section that explains the mutualism between these wasps and their fig hosts. This section would explain how wasp reproduction occurs within the figs and how figs are pollinated during wasp reproduction. This first section could also include the female lethal combat subsection, since female aggression in these species is not a form of sexual selection. Then have a subsection on how host specialization leads to cryptic wasp species, and the ecological consequences of interactions between cryptic species (the subsections under Interspecies Interactions). Finally, you would have the section on local mate competition. I think this organization sets up the reader first with background on how reproductive demands drive the mutualism, and then delves into the consequences of those mutualisms for ecological interactions and sexual selection. Nice job overall though, looking forward to the first draft of the article! Elioeilish (talk) 03:56, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

First Draft Feedback
Hi Shivani! I enjoyed reading your article and think you did a really good job overall. I think that your article flows well and you have a lot of good information on each of your topics. One thing I think you could improve on is maybe focusing on some key ideas and expanding on those more instead of trying to tackle all of the different topics. There are some parts that could use some more explanation such as describing what the difference between primary and secondary sex ratios is. I think that if you reword the information and define some topics(or add hyperlinks) to topics that may not as easily understood, it would help. You did a good job of describing the mutualistic interaction between the wasps and the fig, but the last sentence of the second paragraph was a little hard to understand. I would also possibly define foundress as it is used multiple times in the paper. I found the information about the maintenance of sex ratios through different females laying different amounts clutches, to be very interesting. I also liked how you described inbreeding in the context of your topic. I think you did really well overall and show a clear understanding of your topic! Ishabansal (talk) 10:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

Response to Isha
Hi Isha. I really appreciate all your feedback! I went through my entire article and focused on making my ideas more clear so it didn't feel as hectic. I did this in one of four ways: adding more background information to clarify the main point, including hyperlinks/defining topics, rearranging ideas/paragraphs, and deleting unnecessary or very unclear points. Since I need a certain number of sources, I didn't take out any topics like you suggested, but I definitely understand where you are coming from. However, I think the changes I made to clarify my ideas were sufficient to improve the article. That last sentence for mutualism I took out because it wasn't necessary. I added the foundress definition along with hyperlinks/other definitions like you suggested. Thank you for taking time to read my article! Sgreene11 (talk) 14:14, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Peer Review (round 2)
Fantastic article! It is very detailed and really well-written, so most of my comments are just asking for clarification on small things. Overall, it's already great and reads like a published article.

Mutualism

-In the first paragraph, it is mentioned that the mutualism has resulted in honed morphological adaptations. What are those adaptations?

-Small grammar correction for last sentence in first paragraph: add "in" between resulting and receptive

-I'm a little confused by the second paragraph. How is the mutualism maintained by not all of the larvae surviving? Wouldn't that be detrimental to the association if there were less wasps? I don't understand what the adaptation is that is maintaining the mutualism (but that could just be me being silly and missing something very obvious)

Reproduction and Development

-In the first paragraph, it is said that the syconia can cause "these changes in fig wasp morphology," but it's not totally clear what the changes in morphology are. Do the wasps have different body sizes or coloration depending on the syconia? How do the morphological changes influence the pollination cycles?

-Wow, that is SO COOL. Fig wasps are so wild.

-I'm not sure if we will be adding pictures to this article, but it might be helpful (and really neat) to include a diagram of the syconia to go along with the explanation of development. It's a little hard to picture where everything is happening inside the syconia without actually knowing what one looks like.

Male Morphology

-The species differ in the length and thickness of their sperm? Or do they differ in their seminal vesicle?

-Is the seminal vesicle what the males use to actually mate with the females, or is it entirely just a storage organ?

Female Lethal Combat

-You could probably include this section in the reproduction and development section.

-I just really love the line about decapitation being effective at reducing oviposition rates. Like. Yeah, that sure is one way to do it. That sure will get the job done.

Speciation

-I feel like speciation and cryptic species could be under their own separate section, rather than under the mutualism section. Unless all of these are meant to be read as independent separate sections? (I don't really understand how the line breaks on wikipedia work). But I feel like it would make sense to group speciation and cryptic species together.

-I'd recommend removing the sentence "semi-specific wasps of a good biological species moving back and forth between figs of poor biological species" and just explaining the coevolution of mutualism with the last sentence. The good/bad description was a bit confusing until I read the following sentence, and I feel like it's not entirely necessary.

Cryptic Species

-I think non molecular should be hyphenated as non-molecular

LMC, Inbreeding, and Sex Ratios

-The second paragraph is kind of confusing. Is LMC only proven by the occurrence of female biased sex ratios? Are there other factors that support the development of LMC and prove that it is happening? Are the predictions of LMC theory just that sex ratios will be female biased? I think expanding and breaking down this section a bit more would help to clarify a bit more.

Conflicts with Local Mate Competition Theory

-In the second paragraph, do you mean to say that the "female-biased sex ratios that increase fitness for Pegoscapues occur through..."?

-In the second paragraph, what is meant by "just biased ratios"? Would that be equal sex ratios?

-For the third paragraph, you don't need to include "Data shows"

Non-pollinating fig wasps -Are non-pollinating wasps both males and females? Or just males?

-It might be helpful to explain the positive correlation between sex ratio and non-pollinating wasps. In which direction is the sex ratio increasing?

-Delete "studies have found" in the second paragraph

-What causes a fig wasp to be non-pollinating? Is it random?

Global Notes

- If there isn't already a wiki article, adding a short intro to just give a brief overview of what they are, where they live, what they look like etc. would be good to lead into the discussion of the mutualism

- This was super interesting to read and learn about! I never knew that fig wasps were so complex. Great job!

Phasmatidae (talk) 19:07, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

Peer Review (round 2) - Response to user:Phasmatidae
Mutualism -Added information about carrying pollen in thoracic pockets with their forelegs to later deposit on the stigmatic surface during oviposition -Corrected grammar -I definitely understand why you were confused about the mutualism persistence! I added this part to clarify: “Pegoscapus wasps lay eggs in the fig trees' ovules. Each wasp larva feeds on a singular fig tree ovule. An ovule can therefore become a seed if pollinated or a "wasp gall" when the egg is deposited in it. The ovule cannot become both a seed and wasp gall. However, Pegoscapus do not oviposit in all fig ovaries even when the fig has enough female wasps with enough eggs to do so.” Reproduction and Development -I took this part out because I realized it was kind of redundant with the prior sentence. I also reworked the first sentence. I restated it to: “The life and pollination cycles of Pegoscapus species varies because of the variability in fig species' inflorescence morphology that comes with being a monoecious or dioecious fig. This fig tree variability correlates with variability in fig wasp morphology in terms of pollen collection and oviposition mechanisms in order to maintain the fig wasps' and fig tree's reproductive cycles.” -They are so cool!!!!! -I definitely agree with the picture. I will try to include it with the final article!

Male Morphology - I added in “Unlike other fig wasp genera…” prior to talking about the posterior seminal vesicle to ensure the reader knows that the seminal vesicle is different between genera and not species. I reworded the last sentence to the following in order to clarify species differ in the length and thickness of sperm: “Spermatozoa length and thickness differs between Pegoscapus species.” -The seminal vesicle is what secretes fluid that partly composes the semen, so it is used during actual copulation. I added in that it produces fluid used to complete ejaculation.

Female Lethal Combat -I made this “sub heading 2” so it now falls under the reproduction and development section. -I found that so interesting, and I want more studies investigating how female lethal combat go down!! Speciation -I also don’t understand the line breaks! I understand where you are coming from for sure. I decided to leave it just because some of their speciation is caused by the mutualistic relationship, so it could fall under mutualism. I left the cryptic species section separate just so it’s easier to find. -I was struggling with wording this part and understanding this idea, so I see how I articulated it poorly. I took that part out. I feel like the last sentence was getting my idea across better anyways. I explained that since fig trees have more variance in genotype, fig wasps must continually acquire adaptations to maintain the obligate mutualism in order to survive.

Cryptic Species -Correct non molecular to be hyphenated as non-molecular LMC, Inbreeding, and Sex Ratios -I rewrote this section to make more sense!

Conflicts with Local Mate Competition Theory - I reworded the start of the second paragraph and split it into two sentences for clarification. -I changed “Just biased ratios” to “sex ratios not adjusted for foundress number” - I took “data shows” out. -I also reworded and made some clarifications throughout this section.

Non-pollinating fig wasps - Non-pollinating wasps are both males and females. -When I read this, I saw how it was unclear too. As the Pegoscapus sex ratio became more female biased, the number of non-pollinating fig wasps increased. I added this in. -Deleted "studies have found" - Genra of fig wasps are either pollinating or non-pollinating. I added into the start of this section the fact Pegoscapus are pollinating and what that means.

Global Notes - I added in a habitat section which gives the “overview information” you were talking about. Your feedback helped me determine what was unclear and become a better scientific writer. It really improved my article. Thank you for all of your comments! I really appreciate it. Sgreene11 (talk) 02:47, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Second Draft Feedback
I think you did a really awesome job with your article and it looks great overall!

Mutualism: In the second paragraph you said that all wasps are unable to translate their eggs. I just want to clarify that it is true of all wasps of that species or if it is mostly the case. Maybe also explain why it is not harmful. Reproduction and development: Your description of reproduction and development was really good and easy to follow! When you say "their respective pollinators Pegoscapus asseutus and Pegoscapus jimenezi are representative" it might make it easier to read if you add commas around the species names after "pollinators". Female lethal combat: Is the Pegoscapus tonduzi the only species that shows little aggression or just an example? Speciation: I might have just missed it but what is the difference between a good and bad species? Cryptic species: You said "non molecular" which should be "non-molecular". Local mate competition: I think this sentence could be reworded, "Additionally, genetic information supports the relationship of observed sex ratios to predictions of local mate-competition theory as it observed higher than before levels of local mate competition, inbreeding, and female biased sex ratios." Specifically clarifying what is "higher than before". Also, should there be a hyphen between female biased? Temperature: Delete the "for" in "Fig trees act as a keystone resource for by producing fruit year-round".

I think you did a good job of adding hyperlinks for concepts that may not be clear and you further explained the main ideas really well by adding examples. Ishabansal (talk) 04:09, 15 April 2024 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ishabansal20 (talk • contribs)

Second Draft Feedback - Response to Ishabansal20
Mutualism: It is true for all wasps of the genus. In the second paragraph, I clarified why not translating all of their eggs is beneficial and causes the mutualism to persist. In the second to last sentence I explained why it is not harmful to the fig wasp. Reproduction: I added commas where you suggested to make it easier to read. Female lethal combat: Is the Pegoscapus tonduzi the only species that shows little aggression or just an example? Female lethal combat: In the study, a non-specified Pegoscapus species and Pegoscapus tonduzi were being compared. Those were the only examples I could find. For clarification, I wrote “In comparison to the non-specified Pegoscapus species” then proceeded to talk about Pegoscapus tonduzi. Speciation: I took this part out due to confusing wording and rewrote the end of that paragraph. Cryptic species: Corrected to non-molecular Local Mate competition: I rewrote that sentence and just emphasized that genetic information revealed very high levels of inbreeding and female biased sex ratios. Temperature: Deleted “for” in the last sentence. Thank you for all your feedback! I definitely understand what was unclear and appreciate you pointing it out to make my article better.

Sgreene11 (talk) 03:14, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

Second draft feedback
This is a very good draft overall! The information is well organized and the draft is very informative. Here are some suggestions I have to improve it: -You should add an introduction so the reader can know more some basic information about characteristics like: coloration, size, geographic distribution, habitat, or the family it belongs to. -In the sentence "the larva develop here", I would say "there" instead of"here". Also, if you talk in plural, say larvae. That will avoid the sentence to sound awkward. -Male morphology: it might be good to give specific examples of other fig wasp genera. -Female lethal combat: There is a sentence I find awkward and do not understand very well: "This suggests reduced aggression is due to less competition for resources essential to successful reproduction." I think that a little modification will make this sentence to be clear about what it states. -LNC: What is exactly a "sibling male", or a "sibling females"? -Conflicts with local: -It is mentioned "other assumptions of LMC may be incorrect as well. What assumptions are those? -This suggests Pegorcapus uses a simpler mechanism than LMC to maximize fitness. What mechanism is that?

The sources are also very well cited, and the information is organized in a coherent way. You did a very good job! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Megarhyssa6 (talk • contribs) 23:15, 15 April 2024 (UTC)


 * -I added a “habitat” section to give the reader a brief overview of the organism based on the attributes you described.
 * -Changed to “larva develop there.” Changed larva to larvae when meaning plural
 * -Female lethal combat: I split up some sentences to clarify the idea behind that sentence.
 * -LMC: I changed sibling male to brother and sibling females to sister
 * -Conflicts with LMC: I took out “other assumptions…” since I wasn’t going to go into those. I also added in “the slope strategy” with commas have “simpler mechanism” to clarify what that mechanism is.
 * Thank you for all your feedback! It helped me reword ideas I had a difficult time articulating and ensure I was getting to my main point. Sgreene11 (talk) 03:23, 25 April 2024 (UTC)