User talk:Shaan Sengupta/Archive 1

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Aranya Devi Temple, Arrah moved to draftspace
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June 2023
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Nomination of Dani Daniels for deletion
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Introduction to contentious topics
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June 2023 - again
Please stop changing the names of places in our articles, to different names to those used as our article titles, as you did at Ahmednagar. We use the Common names in English for our articles, not the "Official names", so changing the name breaks internal links to those articles, and is confusing to our readers - thank you - Arjayay (talk) 19:12, 30 June 2023

Speedy deletion nomination of Nationalist Congress Party (Ajit Anantrao Pawar)
Hello Shaan Sengupta, I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Nationalist Congress Party (Ajit Anantrao Pawar) for deletion, because it's a redirect from an article title to a namespace that's not for articles. If you don't want Nationalist Congress Party (Ajit Anantrao Pawar) to be deleted, you can [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=&action=edit&section=new&preload=Template:Hangon_preload&preloadtitle=This+page+should+not+be+speedy+deleted+because...+ contest this deletion], but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top. You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks! Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer. - 🔥𝑰𝒍𝒍𝒖𝒔𝒊𝒐𝒏 𝑭𝒍𝒂𝒎𝒆 (𝒕𝒂𝒍𝒌)🔥 01:48, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Tagging pages for speedy deletion
Hello, Shaan Sengupta, Please post a notification on the talk page of the page creator any time you tag a page for deletion (CSD, PROD, AFD/RFD/TFD/etc.) like the note above this one. This is done most easily by using Twinkle to tag pages for deletion. Twinkle is an editing tool that many editors, both new and experienced, use because it means you don't have to search for the right template to use. Just make sure that you set your Twinkle Preferences to "Notify page creator" and then Twinkle will post these notices on your behalf. It will also show you a list of possible speedy deletion criteria that might apply to pages in different namespaces because it is better to use a valid criteria than make up your own reason. If you have questions, please bring them to the Teahouse. Thank you! Liz Read! Talk! 18:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

July 2023
Hi, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia. It appears that you tried to give Allahabad Chheoki Junction railway station a different title by copying its content and pasting either the same content, or an edited version of it, into another page with a different name. This is known as a "cut-and-paste move", and it is undesirable because it splits the page history, which is legally required for attribution. Instead, the software used by Wikipedia has a feature that allows pages to be moved to a new title together with their edit history. In most cases for registered users, once your account is four days old and has ten edits, you should be able to move an article yourself using the "Move" tab at the top of the page (the tab may be hidden in a dropdown menu for you). This both preserves the page history intact and automatically creates a redirect from the old title to the new. If you cannot perform a particular page move yourself this way (e.g. because a page already exists at the target title), please follow the instructions at requested moves to have it moved by someone else. Also, if there are any other pages that you moved by copying and pasting, even if it was a long time ago, please list them at Requests for history merge. Thank you. -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:05, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Hello @Toddy1, Since the target pages were already present so I am not able to move them. Therfore I would request you to kindly perform some moves
 * Allahabad railway division to Prayagraj railway division
 * Allahabad Chheoki Junction railway station to Prayagraj Chheoki Junction railway station
 * Shaan Sengupta (talk) 06:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Please read Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial. This explains the process for setting up a discussion about moving a page. Any proposed move that has a political aspect should use the process at Wikipedia:Requested moves/Controversial. The process works as follows: -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) You fill in the templates as instructed, saying why the move should happen. Please note that we expect evidence, not just your opinion.
 * 2) There is a move discussion for about a week.
 * 3) An independent person adjudicates.
 * @Toddy1 I would request you to kindly refer to Talk:Prayagraj. There had been a detailed discussion about moving Allahabad to Prayagraj. And the consensus was reached in favour of the move. And then it was advised to move similar pages from Allahabad to Prayagraj except for High court since its name wasn't changed. I don't see a point in rediscussing the same thing over and over again.Shaan Sengupta (talk) 06:20, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You use that as an argument in favour of the move at the move discussion. -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:28, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * The "point" is that you want the pages moved. -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:30, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddy1 Sir I m following what was advised. And I want this too. Am I wrong? Shaan Sengupta (talk) 06:32, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia has cleverly-thought-out processes that steer people into behaving in ways that facilitate collaboration. I am glad that you have started a move discussion. -- Toddy1 (talk) 06:36, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I did as you suggested since you are too senior to me. My actions shouldn't be taken other wise.
 * Shaan Sengupta (talk) 06:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddy1 would request you to kindly put a move notice on the to of the pages (articles) so that more and more people can vote.Shaan Sengupta (talk) 06:45, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Because you used the correct process, it was all done automatically. It is also automatically listed at Wikipedia:Requested moves. -- Toddy1 (talk) 08:56, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

Confusion
Departure of Two MLAS from Neutral Camp to Ajit Camp had already been updated yesterday, refer: See the edit history before you contribute something. Thank You User: Chennai Super Kings Lover Chennai Super Kings Lover (talk) 11:10, 16 July 2023 (UTC)

2024
@Shaan Sengupta Should we add the national parties in the infobox of Next Indian general election as they are considered major by ECI? XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:23, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Thank you for asking. But the scenario is still very much unclear. All depends on the seat sharing. If it goes well then they will fight collectively. So even those National parties won't connect more than 40 seats except INC. They are considered as national parties. But everyone known that no party except BJP & INC and collective LEFT parties have presence outside 2-3 States. We should wait until seat sharing is finalized. This is my take.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 13:07, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta Except INC, I think CPIM will probably get to contest from WB, Kerala, Tripura, Bihar, Tamil Nadu, Andhra Pradesh, Telangana, Maharashtra atleast. XYZ 250706 (talk) 18:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Well it is foolish to even think now. Since this is just an opportunistic alliance. Every party had its own ambitions. Let's wait and see how things unfold in Mumbai meeting.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 03:50, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta Paying due respect to your and any other editor's political idea, I am saying that you should be unbiased as an editor. I feel your words 'opportunistic alliance' do not reflect this fact. XYZ 250706 (talk) 09:01, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * @XYZ 250706
 * Look there is nothing to be biased about. I think you took me wrong. Everyone knows that all these parties are political enemies and are there in an alliance just to defeat PM MODI. This is the context I used Opportunistic Alliance for. And the truth is even if they succeed they won't be able to complete the 5 year term because of their own personal political ambitions.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 11:00, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

User:Fayninja
The comments by User:Fayninja at Talk:History of Allahabad had a line drawn through them (struck through) because User:Fayninja is a sockpuppet account. That means that he/she deceptively operated many accounts. See Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Soutut. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:39, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

August 2023
So, Current Political Groups in Maha Legislative Assembly:  Chennai Super Kings Lover Talk'''
 * As an extended rights Wikipedia editor, you should verify the source provided not just mathematically align with outdated source, The source provided by new editor was of 12 July, we have already updated it from 29 to 34. So from next time kindly verify the source.
 * I gave a clear explanation of my edit that I just have corrected the mathematical error. Nothing else. I was busy doing other edits and couldn't verify in rush. I made a mistake. Thanks for the correction. And donot copy content from a page to other page. And links are not mentioned in a reference way in talk page. It should be mentioned as a website with title. And no ref tags. Cheers  Shaan Sengupta Talk 03:47, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Introduction to contentious topics
— DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 07:43, 8 August 2023 (UTC)

Sockpuppet allegation concerning Prof Shinde
Thank you for this post. If you think that the new account named in the post is a sock puppet because his/her behaviour is so like that of blocked editor Prof Shinde you should open an investigation at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations. Prof Shinde was blocked as a sockpuppet of Crompton editz, so that name should be the "sockmaster's user name", if you think that this new account is the same person that edited as Prof Shinde. Happy hunting. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:17, 9 August 2023 (UTC) The following paragraph has three diffs. It is copied from a warning I placed on another user's talk page:
 * Diffs
 * But this edit to 14th Maharashtra Legislative Assembly added information, so it cannot have been a minor edit. And this edit to Trams in Kolkata changed information, as did this edit to Maharashtra Legislative Assembly. These are not minor edits.

How to do diff using the history tab: How to do diff using the user's contribution history: You need diffs for SPI so that you can show how one account behaves in the same way as another account. -- Toddy1 (talk) 05:46, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Go to the page history tab.(This example will use the history tab of Maharashtra Legislative Assembly)
 * 2) What you want to do is to compare selected revisions.
 * 3) There are two circles in front of each edit on the list.
 * 4) Click on the first circle in front of the edit of 07:51, 8 August 2023‎. The circle will go black.
 * 5) Click on the second circle in front of the edit of 09:39, 8 August 2023‎. The circle will go black.
 * 6) Click on the compare selected revisions button.
 * 7) This will produce a page marked Maharashtra Legislative Assembly: Difference between revisions
 * 8) Copy the URL, and paste it in another page:  That is a diff
 * 1) Go to the user's contribution history. (This example will use Special:Contributions/Maha Sainik)
 * 2) Go to the edit of 09:39, 8 August 2023
 * 3) You will see it has "diff" and "hist" marked.
 * 4) If you click on "diff", one option is open in new window.
 * 5) This will produce a page marked Maharashtra Legislative Assembly: Difference between revisions
 * 6) Copy the URL, and paste it in another page:  That is a diff
 * @Toddy1 thank u for the advice. But I am still very new here and don't have too much idea about it. Can you please help me doing this on my behalf?  Shaan Sengupta Talk 05:53, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * SPI reports are assessed by people what are not part of the conflict you talking about. i.e. they are not involved.  So they do not know what you are talking about unless you point them at examples and explain why the examples show something.


 * The first thing I did was to add 11 different sockpuppets of Crompton editz and Maha Sainik to the interaction editor.
 * Interaction editor
 * This showed that the only page Maha Sainik had edited that one of the others had edited was Pune - see timeline. This made it more difficult to demonstrate common interests.  So I looked at the content of articles they edited a lot, and found that though they were different articles they were related to Maharashtra politics.  This enabled me to explain on the SPI page how evidence supported that they had a common interest in Maharashtra politics.


 * But you are the one who noticed the similarity in the behaviour. It is not obvious to me what it is. But it is obvious to you.  So I thought the best way to help you was to explain how to do diffs, and to give you an example of how I had used diffs to show something.  (In the example paragraph above, I used diffs to show that the editor was marking edits a minor edits, when they were not minor edits.) -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:02, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I have already explained what I noticed @XYZ 250706 was the first to notice. I took his lead. Would request my friend if he maybe can help.  Shaan Sengupta Talk 13:33, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * What? Can you say the matter in brief? XYZ 250706 (talk) 13:51, 10 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am sorry @XYZ 250706 it was not you. It was @Chennai Super Kings Lover. Can you please help CSKL?  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 14:14, 10 August 2023 (UTC)

Maphumor
@Shaan Sengupta Can you please add some examples of vandalism by Maphumor to the discussion page with the specific edit history? You can take such instances from your problems with his edits and the page I added in the discussion. Actually I do not know properly how to add such links in the way the admins are wanting. XYZ 250706 (talk) 14:55, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @XYZ 250706 Me doing on your behalf won't help. Since it's your report I just can help you with it here. They are asking to give links to wrong edits made by him. For example here he removed a referenced content - Revision as of 15:59, 23 August 2023 and I have reverted all his edits on the page because he put things which are already there in infobox and he dig too deep into it which is not necessary. So you need to give links in the way I gave above so that admins can see what wrong he is doing.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:57, 23 August 2023 (UTC)

Draftified
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INC Leader
Hi there - Rahul Gandhi holds neither party leadership nor legislative leadership (leader of the CLP, etc). Kharge as Congress president is the leader — this follows precedent from past elections where no PM candidate was declared (see 1998, 2004). Modi is the PM candidate and therefore precedes the party president for the BJP — the INC doesn't have a declared candidate (Gehlot saying Rahul Gandhi is the candidate doesn't mean anything), so we default to the party president. GlobalYouth20 (talk) 13:57, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * @GlobalYouth20 I have done that. Just to correct your this is not Legislature but Parliament. So its not Legislative leader but parliamentary leader. Secondly its not Congress legislture party (CLP) but Congress Parliamentary party (CPP). AND PLEASE Donot remove the spacing. = being in a single line helps in editing.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:59, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * A parliament IS a legislative body — and Rahul Gandhi holds neither position. I hadn't realized I was messing up the spacing - my apologies. GlobalYouth20 (talk) 14:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I know RaGa holdes neither position. In India we officially call Congress Parliamentary Party not Congress Legislature Party when we are talking about Parliament.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:11, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia. Your edits appear to be disruptive and have been or will be reverted. Please ensure you are familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, and please do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive. Continued disruptive editing may result in loss of editing privileges. Thank you. Capitals00 (talk) 01:44, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
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 * It is very clear that you are making edits to Father of the nation in accordance to Hindutva propaganda. You should better learn that "Father of the nation" is itself not a "official title" but "honorific". They don't need official declaration. Capitals00 (talk) 01:45, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Capitals00
 * First of all, I would request you to look at the list. It doesn't mention what you are saying. The header in the list doesn't say whether the title is honarary or what. It just says title. There are names that have received the title officially by the state. So there must be a difference between officially given titles and the one who are just called it Unofficially.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:55, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * The article said: "The Father of the Nation is an honorific title..." Now that you have agreed that honorific titles are not same as official titles, I don't see why you should pursue this Hindutva POV any further. Capitals00 (talk) 02:01, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Lets continue this at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 02:40, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

Advice on editing your own talk page comments
WP:TALK says:
 * "So long as no one has yet responded to your comment, it's accepted and common practice that you may continue to edit your remarks for a short while to correct mistakes, add links or otherwise improve them."
 * "But if anyone has already replied to or quoted your original comment... Any inserted text should be marked with, which renders in most browsers as underlined text, e.g., inserted ." -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:46, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

I suggest you do that to the edit in question so that the other person stops complaining about it. -- Toddy1 (talk) 12:46, 1 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Toddy1 Thanks for the precious advice. I shall do that for it right away.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:34, 1 September 2023 (UTC)

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September 2023
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NCP
Hey!Mr. Gupta, You said in page 2023 Maharashtra political crisis that faction wise no is 38-15 something, but now Sharad Pawar admitted 40 MLAs deflected to Ajit Camp, kindly update the names. Cite:https://www.hindustantimes.com/cities/mumbai-news/sharad-pawar-s-ncp-admits-40-mlas-have-defected-to-ajit-camp-101694199156779.html

Thank You ✨ Lionel Messi Lover (talk) 11:51, 9 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Lionel Messi Lover Please give their names. I will add it.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:45, 9 September 2023 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. Thank you. Pirate of the High Seas (talk) 13:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on 2023 G20 New Delhi summit. This means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be although other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:25, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * @Toddy1, How are you. That is solved. The user wasn't following NPOV. I left it after realising that its moving to edit warring. Besides the report too is closed. Was this notice needed after the case was closed?  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:27, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * I posted on all three pages, and have posted some advice on the pages of the two editors who posted complaints.


 * The reason for posting it is that if further reverts continue, it may lead to a block. That is why we have warnings – to help the editors being warned. People forget that four reverts can include unrelated reverts of edits by different editors. -- Toddy1 (talk) 15:36, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddy1 Thanks for it. Anyways the page is extended confirmed now. So the party to common conflict can no longer edit it. This itself got an end to the problem. Cheers anyways.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:38, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Misunderstanding
I have added the leader's based on Lok Sabha leaders because as you can see Adhir and Modi are Lok Sabha leaders of their respective parties. Moreover, Adhir isn't the PM candidate for Congress. Rahul Gandhi is the PM candidate. George Simon Ohm (talk) 15:28, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm BJP fights under Modi's leadership. Congress fought under RaGa previously but has not announced this time like BJP has announced. That's why Adhir is added since party president is Rajya Sabha MP.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:30, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Then add Kharge George Simon Ohm (talk) 15:31, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Simon Ohm I just said Party president is Rajya Sabha MP. Kharge is the prez. Why mention again?  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If you can see Kejriwal is a MLA nor RAJYA sabha mp OR lOK SABHA MP George Simon Ohm (talk) 15:38, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * But AAP fights under his leadership. Its mentioned that he is MLA. But in case of Congress it is yet to announce its leader. This is the difference.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:40, 10 September 2023 (UTC)

Region wise data not mentioned in strength by state in I.N.D.I.A. page
Region wise data not mentioned in strength by state in I.N.D.I.A. page. So, Strength by regions must be added for better understanding the alliance condition by regions. George Simon Ohm (talk) 15:34, 10 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm The things you added at Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance are unnecessary because those things are already indirectly mentioned in the article. Doesn't matter whether you add it to NDA or not. That's not at all needed. Since you reverted my edit. I would request to to self revert. Donot expand articles with unnecessary things.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:34, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Simon Ohm Thanks for your self revert. Glad you understood. Cheers.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:43, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Simon Ohm the map that you have created has used wromg colour for NDA. Plus you have not represented Chandigarh UT. Plus what is the need to create a duplicate thing when its already there.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 00:00, 11 September 2023 (UTC)

I found your template cool
I found your template cool. So, can I use your user page template in my user page. I'll not use your identity. George Simon Ohm (talk) 06:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm Templates are not a personal property. Anyone can use them. Just make sure not to make conflicting changes in it.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:54, 13 September 2023 (UTC)

== List of National Democratic Alliance candidates in the next Indian general election moved to draftspace 1 ==

Thanks for your contributions to List of National Democratic Alliance candidates in the next Indian general election. Unfortunately, it is not ready for publishing because it has no sources and it needs more sources to establish notability. Your article is now a draft where you can improve it undisturbed for a while.

Please see more information at Help:Unreviewed new page. When the article is ready for publication, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 21:41, 14 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @Edward-Woodrow you recently moved two pages to draft. Those pages were election articles for the Next Indian general election. They are a list of candidates of two major alliances. It is made beforehand and can only be referenced once candidates are announced. There are many future election related articles without references and even admins are editing it and not moving it to drafts.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 02:19, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Those pages are Draft:List of National Democratic Alliance candidates in the next Indian general election and Draft:List of Indian National Developmental Inclusive Alliance candidates in the next Indian general election.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 02:19, 15 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Then, unfortunately, it shouldn't exist (yet). All content on Wikipedia must be verifiable. We only summarize what other sources have said. Edward-Woodrow :) [ talk ] 11:56, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

== List of National Democratic Alliance candidates in the next Indian general election moved to draftspace 2 ==

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 * @Timtrent I have added 21 references to the article. And if not all most are reliable sources and I have moved the page to mainspace. Since it is about the Next Indian general election. I would request you to please review it.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 19:08, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * No point. It is in mainspace already 🇺🇦 Fiddle Timtrent  Faddle Talk to me 🇺🇦 20:47, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Example showing the value of checkuser in SPIs
Have a look at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Kamal Afghan01#30 July 2023. If it quacks like a duck... But checkuser showed that the accounts were unrelated - not even from the same continent. -- Toddy1 (talk) 14:21, 20 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi @Toddy1, I got it. But here the problem is that we are from same country. This can be seen clearly by the users name and editing choices. Will the checkuser be able to differentiate. Like I am from Bihar and I have been to Uttar Pradesh for 3 days in this week. What if that user is also from the same part of this country? If yes, then what? This is what is haunting me.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:54, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * If that user is also from these two states then will I be blocked instantly? Despite the fact that I have never abused my editing privileges. Although I have made some mistakes like everyone does. But I have rectified it too on suggestions by seniors like you and others.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 04:16, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * People using the tool produce a number of answers, such as:
 * technically identical,
 * confirmed,
 * likely,
 * possible,
 * possible based on geolocation,
 * unlikely,
 * unrelated.
 * If two users are using the same device and the same IP, I assume that the response is either "technically identical" or "confirmed" (I am not sure if there is a difference between these two responses). -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:37, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddy1 Thanks for this. Same device I can confirm because noone except me uses it. Although I changed my mobile 3 months before. Both have not been used by others. But can you explain something about IP. Is it different in every city. Or one city have same IP. How is it defined?  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:53, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * IP address says: "Network administrators assign an IP address to each device connected to a network. Such assignments may be on a static (fixed or permanent) or dynamic basis, depending on network practices and software features."


 * How I learned about sockpuppet investigations was by doing this one. One of the socks always used an anonymising proxy - but it did not stop him getting blocked. -- Toddy1 (talk) 14:01, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok @Toddy1. Thanks for the help. I now understand a little bit about IPs. Much appreciated.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 14:18, 21 September 2023 (UTC)

JD(S) is a left-wing party not totally part of NDA
The political party name Janata Dal (Secular) is a part of Left Democratic Front in Kerala, Loktantrik Morcha (Rajasthan) in Rajasthan and Manipur Progressive Secular Alliance in Manipur George Simon Ohm (talk) 13:33, 22 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm today it has joined NDA. Check the official announcement. Joining NDA means leaving every other alliance. You can remove JDS from every other page. NDA is not like I.N.D.I.A. And second thing if one party is left wing it can't change alliance ideology. Alliance ideology is mainly according to leading party and majority. One can't overrule majority.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 14:55, 22 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @<i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> In Mizoram NDA allies are oppose to each other. In Kerala JD(S) are still Cabinet Ministers George Simon Ohm (talk) 12:10, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
 * As I said the alliance happened just yesterday. Wait before you change something. It will be decided in coming days. Please don't hurry. That's all I can tell you right now.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 08:01, 23 September 2023 (UTC)

Kuppusamy Annamalai
An editor is creating an article about Kuppusamy Annamalai, the president of Tamil Nadu BJP: Draft:K. Annamalai (BJP politician). If you get a chance, please take a look. I am sure that he/she would welcome assistance. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Ok @Toddy1. I shall work on it in the best way possible.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 08:20, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023
Please refrain from notice violation and edit warring. You have violated the notice (Template:Editnotices/Page/Bharatiya Janata Party) of "contentious topics" on page Bharatiya Janata Party by making two reverts within 24 hours. You have claimed "limited circumstances" exemption (WP:3RRNO) without specifying which one. None of them can be reasonably applied. Furthermore, the policy on edit warring (Edit Warring) defines a person responsible for edit warring as "an editor who repeatedly restores their preferred version" which is undoubtedly the simplest explanation in a scenario where one simply makes reverts without providing any reason pertaining to its contents.

Please refrain from making unclear accusations and accusations without evidence. This is in reference to your message under section titled September 2023 on my talk page (User talk:MrMkG). I have raised several questions regarding it and I would like answers. It may also be of relevance that "accusations about personal behavior that lack evidence" is listed as type no. 6 (WP:WIAPA) under policy (No personal attacks) provided in policies and guidelines (List of policies).

Since you demand "discussion first" without providing a reason for why you have reverted the addition of better sources and also removed the pre-existing text associated with the aforementioned sources, I invite you to the talk page (Talk:Bharatiya Janata Party) to finally come forward with a coherent and "policies and guidelines" based reason. I expect a failure to do so would be a failure on your part to have the discussion that you yourself have demanded.

I may take the recourse of raising this at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents as suggested if a suitable resolution is not found. MrMkG (talk) 23:06, 28 September 2023 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. MrMkG (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2023 (UTC)

Take a breath at ANI
Just pause for a minute, please! El_C 18:02, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * @El C I am now taking rest. Seems he doesn't want to understand. Please handle it the way you want. Maybe a close will help. Depends on you.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 18:04, 29 September 2023 (UTC)


 * Regarding the content dispute at Talk:Bharatiya Janata Party, what someone needs to do on the talk page is to make a list of the citations for this, and state what each of them supports. Quotations help. I am amazed that nobody has done it.


 * Regarding the chat-tennis you and the other editor have generated at WP:ANI, try reading Wikipedia:Too long; didn't read. It is one of the pitfalls of chat; if you always answer the other person, he/she can get you to write so much that almost nobody reads any of it. It is often better to say what you have to say, and then let other people have a go. -- Toddy1 (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
 * @Toddy1 I know TLDR but I couldn't help myself but reply to everything he said because if I had not it might have gone against me. The guy wants it to be added so its him who had to add citations but since he has not paid heed to any of my advise I have decided not to give him one on this matter. You must have seen his behaviour.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:28, 30 September 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:User Blocked


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Edit request
As you deleted the images from 2023 West Bengal Panchayat elections then you must also delete it from 2022 Tamil Nadu urban local body elections George Simon Ohm (talk) 14:13, 1 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm Please compare previous year election pages of both states. You might understand that every page has different pattern.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 14:15, 1 October 2023 (UTC)

CS1 error on Bihar caste-based survey 2022
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Caste census
Do you know from where we can download the official report of Bihar's caste survey. Admantine123 (talk) 11:07, 4 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Admantine123 You could have found it on various news websites and Bihar Government website. But for now government has taken it back due to some mistakes. Will be released after rectification.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:36, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ok Admantine123 (talk) 13:39, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
 * reply in wiki commons George Simon Ohm (talk) 17:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep both sister projects seperate.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)

Censorship
Why are you striking out my comments and those of others on talk pages? Please stop or I will take action to have your account temporarily suspended. 82.147.226.240 (talk) 10:25, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @82.147.226.240 It seems you don't want to read it in whole and just blame others. It is clearly mentioned that those comments are struck because ARBECR and Arbitration/Index/Palestine-Israel articles applies there. If you so much want to contribute on Wikipedia then join us make an account, contribute get Extended Confirmed status and you are free to participate in those discussion. This is not censorship as you are claiming. We are all just following the rules. And I am not the only one to strike out comments. I can report your IP address and get some action taken against you for defying rules and falsely blaming others.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 10:51, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @Guerillero, @ToBeFree and others have also struck. If you guys can help explain.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 10:55, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping; it seems to have been explained below already. When I removed comments for this reason, I always explained it to their authors (example on 's talk page). ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:18, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @ToBeFree I thought that the note I left below the strucked comment is enough. I shall now do it when I strike anyone of them. Thanks for this.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:21, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

You made edits at Talk:October 2023 Gaza−Israel conflict and Shaan Sengupta struck them through giving reasons. One of the reasons was WP:ARBECR, which says that on pages with an "extended confirmed restriction", non-extended-confirmed editors (for example IP editors) may use the "Talk:" namespace to post constructive comments and make edit requests related to articles within the topic area, provided they are not disruptive. But they are not allowed to make edits to "internal project discussions" such as deletion discussions (AFDs) and move discussions (RMs). So the correct thing to do was either to delete or to strike through your comments. So, what Shaan Sengupta did was correct. -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:35, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Toddy1 Thank you so much for this exact explanation. I hope it helps him/her to understand.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 11:52, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

By the way, it is your own fault. Get an account and edit with it. Perhaps you already have an account, and there is a reason for not editing with it? -- Toddy1 (talk) 11:37, 9 October 2023 (UTC)

Please publish this article
Please publish this article Draft:Next Indian general election in Sikkim George Simon Ohm (talk) 13:33, 9 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @George Simon Ohm You need to submit your draft. See Articles for creation. Or you can wait. I see that there is room for improvement in the article. Let me do it. Then I will move it to mainspace directly.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:38, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * @George Simon Ohm The article is created at Next Indian general election in Sikkim. I couldn't move your article because there was an existing redirect to its name. You can now request deletion of your draft by putting the tag at the top because there is no purpose of the draft now.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 14:34, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay George Simon Ohm (talk) 06:19, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

October 2023
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 * I know this very well.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:08, 13 October 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Hero of the Luhansk People's Republic for deletion
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MoE in 2023 Madhya Pradesh election
Hey, I would like to tell you that in the source for Madhya Pradesh opinion poll conducted by CVoter, at the end it says "The survey has been done from May 26 to June 26. It has a margin of error plus minus 3 to plus minus 5 per cent." Ok123l (talk) 10:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ok123l Thanks for this. Actually when I saw it on TV they said ±3% only. Btw I just saw it for 4-5 minutes. Might have missed something. I shall fix this if you are yet to.  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:08, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * ✅  Shaan Sengupta <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:10, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's alright. Its fixed now. Ok123l (talk) 16:30, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Category:2024 Indian general election has been nominated for discussion
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Don't put words into other editors' mouths
Template:User Hindu has been in existence since 2016. In that time more than 50 editors have added it to their user pages, indicating that they identify as Hindus. You have unilaterally made changes to the template, which have resulted in those editors appearing to have said other things about themselves which they have not in fact said. If a user posts a notice to their userpage which just says that they are Hindu, nobody else has the right to replace that notice with one which misrepresens them as having said something else. Please don't do that again. JBW (talk) 21:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)


 * that was kept as a redirect to other template. And there is nothing more added to it. It is just expanded with other terms. The previous line was This user is a Hindu. The new line was This user is a Sanatani Hindu who follows Sanatana Dharma known as Hinduism. Both have the same meaning.
 * Now to explain you Hindu is the one who follows Hinduism. Sanatana Dharma is an alternative name for Hinduism used in Sanskrit and other Indian languages alongside the more common Hindu Dharma. (No difference) Sanatani is the one who follows Sanatana Dharma which again is Hinduism, means Hindu. What's the difference that will make someone object? I just expanded the obvious. The template was stable since 9th (which is nearly a month, except the colour that I added which was there before also). No one in my information objected it atleast for a month. The last objection was solved and that too was from a non-Hindu (Muslim).  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:47, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we please discuss this @JBW? Can you tell me if I am wrong? Or what went wrong with that version?  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 11:46, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I really don't know what else there is to be said about it, but I will give you an expanded explanation of the same point. Editors have chosen to have a message on their user pages saying "this editor is a Hindu"; you have decided to change that so as to make it appear that they said something else, without consulting or even informing them. Whether the text which you imposed means essentially the same as what they chose to have is irrelevant: it was not what they chose to have on their user pages, and you have no right to put it there. You are perfectly free to put your preferred text on your user page, which you can do without changing the template. The only conceivable reason for changing the template, rather than just posting what you wanted to say on your own user page, was that you intended to impose your choice of message on other people's user pages. Also as far as I can see the fact that you didn't just drop the matter once that had been pointed out to you can only mean that you still wish to impose your choice on other people's user pages. As for "No one in my information objected it", what makes you think that the people concerned knew about the change? I don't keep frequently reading through my user page to see whether someone has taken it upon themselves to change it, and I don't think anyone else should have to do so. I am also at a loss to understand why you would even wish to change what other editors say on their user pages, even if for some reason you think you have the right to do so: what is it do with you?


 * The shorter version of that is that what you have on your user page is up to you (provided it complies with Wikipedia policies) and what other users have on their user pages is up to them. JBW (talk) 12:19, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok. Better I make one for myself. Thanks for this.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:21, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Regarding your edits Template:User Hindu
Hey, if you want to add a specific symbol to your own user page, please go ahead. A template used by a non-trivial amount of editors is NOT the place to add a swastika symbol (I am assuming you are aware of it's cultural connotations outside of the very specific religious context). Sohom (talk) 20:44, 13 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I have left it. Won't make any edits there now.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 04:10, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

Seat limit or vote share for info box election
Where you got seat limit and vote share for adding parties in info box election. I've seen you had removed INC in 2023 Tripura Legislative Assembly election. In Tripura there are far less seats as compared to UP, Bengal, Bihar. Getting 3 seats in Tripura is not so bad as greeting 3 seats in other states. In UP BSP a major party get only 1 seat but still added in info box. Happyjit Singh (talk) 07:50, 24 November 2023 (UTC)


 * @Happyjit Singh In UP BSP had more than 22% Vote share with 19 seats in 2017 election and 13% vote share in 2022. This shows that they were major contender before election. And MOS:INDELECT says that even if a party covered as major contender gets 0 seat it shouldn't be removed after results. Hence it is present there. At the same time, I see a need to remove INC from 2022 Uttar Pradesh Legislative Assembly election page bcoz they had single digit vote share as well single digit seat in both the elections. Same here in case of Tripura, INC in not worth adding bcoz of single digit vote share and 0 seats in previous election as well as single digit vote share and just 3 seats (which doesn't qualify it for even LoP.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 08:43, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * But in 2013 they were main opposition. Happyjit Singh (talk) 11:00, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * See this line Wikipedia:WikiProject Indian politics/Election: Article structure Only those parties that are covered by Reliable Media as a major contender for winning that election are listed in the candidate list. The number of potential contenders can be 2,3 or 4 etc. Happyjit Singh (talk) 11:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * It says there can be 4 major parties not only 2/3 as you always try to convey. Happyjit Singh (talk) 11:18, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh I donot try to convey what you are saying. Major parties can even be 6. A party was main opposition in 2013 (a decade ago) is not an acceptable reason to add. Please see the opinion polls and other surveys and add only those parties that are having good statistics. If you think I am wrong you may discuss with some admin. Also give a link to this discussion and discussion on your talk page so that they get the concern.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:36, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Please check 2021 Kerala Legislative Assembly election. Here, alliance are used instead of parties. I think it's correct. Can we use it in states where there are many major parties like Bihar and Maharashtra. Happyjit Singh (talk) 06:57, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh you might think its correct. But its totally wrong. MOS:INDELECT is violated. I would suggest not to make pages that way.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:11, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Then should I correct that Happyjit Singh (talk) 13:15, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh Yes definitely. If you want to. I would suggest to leave previous election pages and focus on recent ones.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:16, 27 November 2023 (UTC)

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Request
Hello. I see you uploaded File:Ruling Alliances in India.jpg showing the ruling political parties in Indian states. Could you change it so it shows states ruled directly by BJP, and then its alliance members and the same for INC? It would add more detail to it. Ok123l (talk) 06:02, 2 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ok123l I made some fixes in your comment for better understanding. Don't mind it. I like your idea. But my point in making that was to show NDA Vs I.N.D.I.A. but I like your idea. Rather overwriting that file, I should upload other. But we need to understand that both the INC and the BJP has allies in nearly all states. For example, BJP in UP despite having majority in its own has NISHAD party chief in cabinet. Similarly, in Rajasthan INC has majority in its own but still has alliance with RLD of Jayant. So I think this only is better. Please put forward your thoughts so that we continue this and I get something I might be missing.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 06:32, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

You can overwrite the file with this after the elections conclude. https://imgur.com/FZSbSWl Ok123l (talk) 11:00, 3 December 2023 (UTC)


 * I told you there too. I have made a map. I will overwrite it at 5. Please don't repeat.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 11:05, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Oh sorry. I couldn't find that page and I was doubting whether I posted to you or not, so I posted again. I apologise. Ok123l (talk) 12:26, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

6th Chhattisgarh Assembly moved to draftspace
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Nomination for deletion of Template:18th Lok Sabha members from all states
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Save Indian election pages
To save Indian general election pages User:Number 57 must blocked from editing Indian pages. Happyjit Singh (talk) 10:55, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Happyjit Singh man you seriously want me to report @Number 57. I know you just blindly revert edits, but you should atleast check the background. He is an admin and has an experience of over 18 years with nearly 275,000 edits. I am not the correct guy. If you think he did something wrong. Please discuss with him or at some other place.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 11:32, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Number 57 since you have already been tagged here and I want to know something regarding the removal by you, I am not starting the discussion anywhere else but here only.
 * Your edit summary says The guidance at Template:Infobox election says the leaders_seat and leader_since functions are "Only to be used when the information is in the article body." Please stop blindly reverting. You are right till here.
 * Now in Revision as of 11:12, 11 December 2023 you haven't just removed the leaders_seat and leader_since but you have also removed changed no to yes in ongoing. This is wrong bcoz elections haven't yet started. No schedule announced nothing.
 * Secondly, you removed elected_members and outgoing_members and didn't tell why. No when I read the guidelines at Template:Infobox election for these it says The page name of the legislative term (typically including a list of members) serving between the previous election and this election. (Can either be a page title or a wiki link.) Now where was this violated that led to its removal?  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 11:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ongoing should be set to "yes" before the election takes place (see the guidance – "Must be either yes or no, whether the election is yet to take place, or completed"). This determines whether certain parameters appear or not. Compare the yes and no settings:
 * seats_needed will not appear if ongoing is set to no
 * The Prime Minister is listed as "Incumbent Prime Minister" when ongoing=yes but "Prime Minister before election" if ongoing=no
 * It should only be changed to "no" once the election has taken place and results have been added to the infobox.
 * Regarding the outgoing members, I just think this is unnecessary – these are not members elected in the election in question. Cheers, Number   5  7  12:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Number 57 I got the ongoing part. But regarding the outgoing_members and the elected_members I happen to not agree with you. Firstly bcoz the guidance says that it should can be added. Secondly you say I just think this is unnecessary – these are not members elected in the election in question. Definitely, but it helps people to know who are elected and who are outgoing. Since it has no policy violation, I think we should add it. Par reply.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:05, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Just because a parameter exists, it doesn't mean it should be used. MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE states that infoboxes should contain as little information as possible. Links to the lists of former/elected members are not key information IMO, and are therefore to be avoided to avoid cluttering the infobox. Also, just FYI, you only need to include the ongoing parameter if the answer is yes. The default is no (so historic elections do not need the parameter). Cheers, Number   5  7  12:37, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Number 57 Ok Thanks, I get that too regarding ongoing parameter. And also I get MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE. At tge same time there is also MOS:INFOBOXEXCEPTIONS which says As with any guideline, there will be exceptions where a piece of key specialised information is difficult to integrate into the body text, but where that information may be placed in the infobox. This is the case here as that list is not possible to be included in the article text. So it is better that the small link which contains good information be in infobox. This is what MOS says. And outgoing members and elected members list is a key information as that shows the constituency-wise scenario before and after elections.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 13:18, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * It is absolutely possible to include these links in the text though. In many articles, the list of elected members is either linked to from the results section using the see also template, or listed in the see also section. Also, you don't have to ping me every time you respond. Cheers, Number   5  7  13:28, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ok, I ping just so you get notified forgot that you must be subscribed to this discussion. Anyways coming to the point, yes we can do all this but is there some specific problem with it in infobox. If yes then please let me know. If no then please we can add.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:29, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Yes, the specific problem is that it is unnecessary clutter, and not key information (IMO). Cheers, Number   5  7  18:03, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:18th Lok Sabha members templates


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Opinion polling for the next Indian general election
Where are you finding the margin of error for the opinion polls on the above page? It cannot be seen in the source. Ok123l (talk) 12:50, 14 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Ok123l Saw it when it was aired.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:57, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I expected so. Thanks for the confirmation. Ok123l (talk) 09:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

2024
@Shaan Sengupta Adding tables of alliances and unnecessary parties make the parties and alliance section long in 2024 Indian general election. So can we add the section like such sections in 2019 Indian general election and previous general elections articles in which the alliance data is in the articles of respective alliances and adding an overall data in the article for general election? If I am unable to explain the matter properly to you, you can read the parties and alliances section in 2019 Indian general election and previous Indian general elections articles. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:06, 16 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @XYZ 250706 I partly agree with you. But the problem is that we don't yet know which party will contest and which not. Especially in the case of northeast, I think many parties won't get even one seat to contest. I think we should wait untill candidates are announced or atleast seat sharing formula is announced and then we can clean the unnecessary parties. Removing the complete table won't be good according to me.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 06:13, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta The table of parties will be within the articles of respective alliances. A link to the article for alliance can be added in the 2024 Indian general election article. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:15, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta Besides INDIA alliance is not in the perfect form till now and is still now not confirmed totally. The positions of parties like JDU and TMC are not clear. Besides, I had read in an news article stating that Md Salim (CPIM politburo member) said INDIA is an opposition bloc only, there will be national alliance Left Front also, seat sharing will be done among secular, democratic parties (of INDIA bloc also) at state level a/c to the political conditions of respective states. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:24, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta Besides many constituents of NDA (approx 10-12 parties atleast) will not get seats to contest. Although it may appear original research, but it is reality. XYZ 250706 (talk) 06:25, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @XYZ 250706 definitely this is reality. But again we can't add orginal reasearch. That's why I said let things happen with respect to time. When the correct time comes those will be removed.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 06:29, 16 December 2023 (UTC)

RFC
Hi, I undid your re-organzing of the RfC at Bangladesh Genocide. Survey and Discussion are actually two different sections on purpose. Survey is only for !votes for the RfC. If you want you can move your !vote to the Survey section. Thanks. A.Musketeer (talk) 02:38, 19 December 2023 (UTC)

Category issues
Hello. I noticed you created a new Category:2024 Indian general election despite a category already existing for the election (named Category:Next Indian general election). This has meant we now have two categories for the same election. Rather than creating a new category, you should have requested the category be renamed by using the WP:CfD or WP:CFDS process. The "Next" category now has to go through the deletion process (here). Cheers, Number   5  7  18:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

Discussion at ANI
Hi @Shaan Sengupta. Just seen the ANI discussion on Happyjit Singh. ANI is usually helpful in case of continuous disruptive editing and edit warring. However, content dispute at a particular page rarely gets anything done on ANI. If a user is making disruptive edits on Indian election pages or editing against MOS:INDELECT guidelines, best option is to give warnings (template) to the user, and if they still do the same after level 4 warning, then report them at ANI for disruptive editing rather than a content issue. Dhruv edits (talk) 11:23, 25 December 2023 (UTC)


 * @Dhruv edits All of that was done. I tried to solve this without warnings. But bcoz of him unwilling to discuss I went to ANI in place of dispute resolution board. He already has got template warnings for same issues previously. Anyways the discussion is now going on at Talk:2024 Indian general election in Maharashtra. If you want to engage please.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 12:12, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Shaan Sengupta, Happyjit Singh has done the same in 2024 Indian general election in Tamil Nadu. Even though you reverted his edit to display major contenders. Kalpanasundar (talk) 15:18, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kalpanasundar I know. Not only this but he has done same with so many pages. Sad thing is I reverted him twice and if I revert the third time I will be violating 3RR which I won't. Waiting if he himself falls in line and starts following the layout guidelines. If his still doesn't the admins will only decide. By the way, just to let you know a discussion regarding this is going on at Talk:2024 Indian general election in Maharashtra.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 16:01, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Kalpanasundar @Shaan Sengupta I have given the user level 3 warning for disruptive editing at 2024 Indian general election in Tamil Nadu. Give the user a level 4 warning if they continue to do the same. After level 4 warning, if they do not stop disruptive editing, then they can be reported at ANI for making disruptive edits for the past couple of months. Dhruv edits (talk) 16:59, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Dhruv edits you have fixed Tamil Nadu page. But the user has done same thing with many other pages which can be found in his contribution which I reverted and he restored twice. You can see 2024 election pages of Bihar, Telangana, Uttar Pradesh, Tamil Nadu, Jharkhand, Kerala and Maharashtra. Maybe I have missed some. All the pages need to be restored the last good version.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:45, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Discussion on how to stop my editing is going on. Happyjit Singh (talk) 18:46, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh you need to clear your stand on whether you are willing to follow layout guidelines of MOS:INDELECT and work collaboratively or not at Talk:2024 Indian general election in Maharashtra so that we can proceed. You not replying there and not making your stand clear would just strech the discussion. And will at last need admin intervention.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 01:28, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Okay I agree to follow. But I'll consider parties with at least 6% votes or 2 seats as major parties. As Left and Congress got 40% votes in election in West Bengal before general election but get get less than 7% votes in general election. Happyjit Singh (talk) 12:49, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh good that you agree to follow. But we can't work according to what individuals consider. But regarding which is a major party and which not Only those parties that are covered by Reliable Media as a major contender for winning that election are listed in the infobox. Reliable media is the main key. Still if you want to go by vote share and seats, 10% vote share and atleast 5 seats. Bcoz nearly any party can win 2 seats.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 15:54, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Take the case of Left and Congress in Bengal they swipe with 40% vote share but get only 2 seats and 5% vote share in general election. Happyjit Singh (talk) 16:41, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * @Happyjit Singh Can you please show when in last elections whether Lok Sabha or Vidhan Sabha have they got 40% vote share as you claim. I am taking about last election means 2019 lok sabha and 2021 vidhan sabha. And what do you mean by swipe with? Do you mean to say sweep with? Still where?  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 16:59, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I mean 2016 election Happyjit Singh (talk) 17:01, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Man the last we should talk about is last election. Its been 7 years to 2016. Analysis is done according to most recent situation.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 17:03, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

Possible sock
Hello, Shaan Sengupta, I was wondering if you thought this editor was a sock of User:Marxist Economist. You've had a lot of contact with both editors on their User talk page and I wondered if you thought they were the same person as they both have an interest in elections in India and pages like 2024 Indian general election in Tripura. You might go to SPI if you think so. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 00:58, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi @Liz, I thought so not once but many a times. Even their political alignment is same. But I have stopped filing SPI's bcoz of two reasons. First its time consuming to make a detailed report and second the baclog is too long for a CU check. If I don't give enough evidence clerk would decline the CU and close the case. I will try if maybe you can help with the tools available with you. I am beginning to prepare one.  ShaanSengupta  <i style="color:#FF7518;">Talk</i> 04:30, 29 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Don't false claim. I don't know that user. Yes, I'm interested in election pages but not so in Tripura. My edits are concentrated with Maharashtra and Bengal. I found this user closer to that user User:Ram Mahan Yadav. He created Communist Party of India (Marxist), West Bengal page previously that user created Communist Party of India (Marxist), Tripura and Moreover he reintroduced Next Tripura Legislative Assembly election. Moreover, he edit articles related to CPIM. I edit mostly in election related articles because it require no extra knowledge or imformation. Happyjit Singh (talk) 11:26, 29 December 2023 (UTC) WP:SOCKSTRIKE

ANI
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. Chaotıċ Enby  (t · c) 18:12, 29 December 2023 (UTC)