User talk:Shabiha/Archive 1

My self shabiha im a traditionalist Sunni Student. I believe in Peace ful Propagation of religion. As im Muslim so i follow Sufism. Im warsi sunni and belives in more liberal form of Propagation . Shabiha (t) 19:43, 15 April 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank you. I am here to help in any way I can.  I was suprised to see Wahabi polemics on Ghazzali article which have nothing to do with his personality. --alidoostzadeh (talk) 15:10, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

help needed for Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab biography
Raqib nizami (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)Salam,Im a Sunni Sufi Muslim,I joined new as an editor.I tried to edit the biography of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab.It was full of lies in the biggining.I tried to add some helpful ref to proof that he was not at all a great Sunni scholar and to establish that he tried to form a firqa(sect)Wahhabism.Also i tried to create an assessment tittle to reveal his real truth. now im having debate on the discussion forum. but im alone others are Wahhabi extremist.I suggested an edit request pls help me to get it right.i also need your help to guide me how to be better in this article.Raqib nizami (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Disputes
Salam. I see that you and MezzoMezzo are engaged in an edit warring over a couple of articles. You remove criticism sections from some articles while you add others to other articles. MezzoMezzo is doing the same though the other way around. Please stop it and review your edits and see what you have done wrong. And if this won't stop i'll be obliged to use some administrative actions. Thanks. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  16:25, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

User:Shabiha and User:MezzoMezzo
I see you have already warned both parties appropriately, but you should know that MezzoMezzo also brought it to AN/I  DGG (talk) 16:49, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Re: your comments on my page, I understand. I'll alter my editing as advised.  And thank you for the advice as well, constructive criticism is always appreciated. MezzoMezzo (talk) 17:00, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
 * I will act accordingly and will Improve my editng pattern.Is there any Option to Stop someone from Continuous Compalining and annoying?thanks Shabiha (t) 01:39, 2 May 2008 (UTC)


 * Shabiha, not to point fingers to you specifically, but to just emphasize that you acted the same way. To both of you, criticism sections have to exist (except I'd guess for articles like [Sun] or [Moon] and similar or to specific instances as per WP:BLP). It shoudl not be any criticism though as per WP:NPOV, WP:RS and WP:V. I am glad that you both are promissing to improve your editing ways. Happy editing.
 * By the way, you can just ignore what I've just said and get some insight from WP:AGF. -- FayssalF  -  Wiki me up®  01:07, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Salafi/Wahhabi merger
Thanks for your message. I'm against the merger. Wahhabism is an identifiable phenomenon, those who follow Abdu'l-Wahhab. Salafi is an umbrella description, which no two people seem to use in the same way (for example, non-Salafis usually include Qutb in this category, whereas many self-described Salafis repudiate him). Many people self-identify as Salafi who would never agree to being called Wahhabi.

Still I'm no expert, I'm only going on what I have seen, which is that there is no agreement! --Sir Myles na Gopaleen (the da) (talk) 16:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello my friend
We are discussing merging the Wahhabism page with Mohammed Bin Abdel Wahab and/or Salafism as a way to reduce the impact of the use of this name which as you know is unfounded.

Please join us in the wahhabism discussion page.

I sometimes get the impression that this discussion is sometimes less about logic, reason, and truth then it is about stubbornness and cultural subjectivity. I am trying to calmly and logically convince them that the naming is nonsensical. I could use your help.

They seem to forget that many people think the naming is unfounded based on islamic science and Fiqh.

Regardless of what we think of Salafis reason should rule.

Regards and Salam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bonassra (talk • contribs) 19:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Assalamo alikum ss........ i really appreciate ur work on Wikipedia.....plz keep it up......!!! MAY ALLAH Bless You with the true Love of His Blessed Prophet...!! aameeeeeeen JAZAKILLAHU KHAIRA --Madinah madinah (talk) 08:26, 11 January 2009 (UTC) Salam ss........plz also add some information to Alhaj Muhammad Owais Raza Qadri page also........actually...... I work on Official Website of Alhaj Owais Raza qadri Nowadays.....you can get information about him fom his website....and forum....JAZAKILLAHU KHAIRA..!! --Madinah madinah (talk) 08:38, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Ahmed Raza Page in Arabic
I want the page of Imam Ahmed Raza to be published in Arabic in wikipedia. For your kind information the pages in Urdu, Kannada, Hindi and also Arabic are published by me only. Fakat was salaam. Muhammad Aslam Razvi MA of Bijapur --Shaikh Muhammad Aslam Razvi 12:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The "Wahhabi" Myth
Hi, three PRODs on The "Wahhabi" Myth were removed by David.Baratheon (talk) 12:48, 6 May 2022 (UTC) (the article creator), then you proposed a speedy deletion.

Prior to this, I left a note at OliverTwisted (the first PROD). The Myth article is part of a larger mess centred around Wahhabi which David.Baratheon sees as being grossly biased and inaccurate, as you can no doubt see in the article history and on the talk page. He may have some valid points, but he's going about it the wrong way, for example deleting the lead and inserting his own text. Rather than just deleting his article, David could maybe do with either mediation or taking to the admin noticeboard so that he can have his say and be advised? Thanks,  Esowteric + Talk  18:59, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

File copyright problem with File:Yanabi.gif
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Speedy deletion nomination of Yanabi
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Barelwi Improvement
See the changes on the this article.I hope that present a true picture of the movement. InshAllah we can upgrade this page to a level of featured article. Msoamu (talk) 11:15, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Your corrections on Ali Hamdani
I request you to kindly know more about Ali Hamdani before you take it upon yourself to wield your scissor. I recommend you to read his book Zakhirat-ul-Mulk. As far as his suggestions being provocative i may say that a lot of things in the mediaeval times are provocative by todays standards. Are you then going to delete all mediaeval history? We have to accept it and come to terms with it.Kashmiri0000 (talk) 17:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)kashmiri0000

The New Edits to Barelwi Article
Greetings, one thing I wanted to make clear is that the question is not whether the Fatwa Online site is POV or not (it is, clearly). The question is whether it accurately represents Deobandi/Salafi opinion. If, for example, a reputable newspaper quotes the Mufti of Egypt as declaring Barelvis kufr, that would certainly be notable and worth including. The statement is POV, but the fact that someone notable stated XYZ is not POV. So I will hesitantly support your removal of the section stating that Deobanis/Salafis call Barelvis kufr, but only because the cited source is not clearly reliable, and/or does not necessarily represent another existing Islamic group. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:36, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

Barelwi Article
Thanks for contact. As per your request I have added article:Barelwi to my watch and will track any future edits on it. As of now, if there is any workgroup or group-task, you can let me know I'll try to cooperate & participate.-- Sayed Mohammad Faiz Haider Rizvi talk! 14:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Please Comment on Discussion Page as I have presented a Complete Picture of the Violence.Msoamu (talk) 05:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)

Assalaam alykum
What are you doing?Wahabis are constantly in effort to prove muslims as mushrik and themeselves as only 'muslim' and written many articles against ahle sunnat!What are you doing?Only debating on talk pages?I am so angry that i thinked to h¤ck wikipedia if i was able to.Please correct those article or appeal for the ban of these litratuar terrorist(those mushriks who prefere ignorant sayings of ibn abdulWAHAB upon The Holy Quraan O Hadith.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.18.239.135 (talk) 16:44, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

Shabiha ss I Need UR Help
Salam, sis i wana talk to you regarding an important matter, im Sunni Hanafi Barelvi Attariah, n i work on 3 Sunni websites: Faiz Ahmed Owaisi

Faizane Raza

Owais Raza Qadri

i wana talk to you on MSN, do u have an id on msn???? plz, i dont knw the rules etc ov wikipedia n i dun knw how to talk to u via wikipedia. i hope u'll respond ASAP!! take care --Madinah madinah (talk) 11:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Aboobacker Ahmad


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Assalaamu Alykum
What do you think about my user page,please help me to improve it.

Coercorash (talk) 18:00, 27 April 2010 (UTC)

Assalaamu Alykum:Want to make articles
I want to make articles about Peer Shakir Ali Noori and Organisation he founded ; Sunni Dawat-e-Islami.Will you help me?Cause i Googled it but didn't found many much info to create an article.Only site giving info is www.sunnidawateislami.com,which is insufficient for both articles.Will you help me for getting more references,creating these two articles??Please reply fast,i'm waiting. It seems you are not visiting wikipedia regularly.

Coercorash (talk) 06:59, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

GA Renomination
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AlhamduliLLAH ,you returned
I was thinking you just leaved wikipedia.As you see,most of Sunnis are absent from even months.Eg. User:Madinah madinah,i haven't seen him active for months,and User:Raza2526,he last edited on 16 may.Good news is that User:MezzoMezzo got lost LOL!he's absent approximately from when you were absent.Probably i was the only Sunni active over last months.As you can see,Barelvi article was almost entirely in wahabi hands.I edited the article to neutrality with sunni sources like Fatawa Rizwiya,Hussam ul-Hermain etc.It bothered that Matthew guy and he reverted my edit.Than what i did was i placed an vandalism notice and restored article to my edit with some more references and a request to not to start an edit war.Matthew made fun of my warning and he and another self claimed neutral editor User:Urduboy(probably a sock puppet of matthew) repeatedly moved to wahabish edits.I again neutralised the article from wahabi PoV and asked them to discusse about article on the article's talk page.But they didn't stopped the wahabi PoV addition and accusing me of non-neutral PoV,finally,they moved the article to extreme wahabi PoV edit and with the help of admin Chzz they fully protected the article. While,i also developed the Dawat-e-Islami and MadniChannel etc and created Sunni Dawat-e-Islami AlhamduliLLAH!

Please add a link to your talk page in you signature!

 Coercorash Talk Contr. 18:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

Points on copyediting and references
Just a couple points about a few edits: commas touch the word to their left, but have a space to the right, same with periods. Different punctuation (not sure if that's a regional thing or an individual thing) makes edits harder to read and looks disorganised to readers.

So far as references, articles, especially Barelvi, need cites to reputable academic works, not sectarian sites supporting a given religious group. So it would help a ton if you could help find references in academic publications on the Barelvi denomination (and there are plenty of those on GoogleBooks) rather than Hazrat.org or similar. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:32, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Assalaamu alykum!
 Coercorash Talk Contr. 04:13, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Request for editing involvement in article Aisha

 * Hi i am Omer, i request your kind self to help me out to make the article Aisha a organized and model article for viewers, there are some users who had challenged the references of this article, and based on my research knowledge, references and poor comand on english, i am not able to work out for those, therfore kindly help me to make the article Aisha organized.

hope you will accept this invetation.Thanks and please advice --Omer123hussain123 (talk) 10:56, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
 * and also in the article Zujajat al-Masabih written by Abdullah Shah Naqshbandi

Charminar Edits
Hi ,

Well done for the Charminar Article Edits. I read the article and appreciate it.

Regards,--Hoodedemperor (talk) 10:56, 22 November 2012 (UTC) Syed

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ANI noticeboard
Hello. There is currently a discussion at WP:ANI regarding ongoing disputes in regard to content and conduct. The thread is Accusations of extremism.The discussion is about the topic Barelvi. Thank you. —MezzoMezzo (talk) 07:48, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Barelvi Article
Hi! Thank You for You maintaining neutral version at Barelvi Page.Msoamu (talk) 13:48, 9 February 2013 (UTC)