User talk:Shaded0/Archive 1

Date format
Hi. Just to let you know that I switched the way in which you applied the date format for the reference you added to the Grilling article today. I'm sure when you check the diff you'll see why - it's not a big deal at all imho, but it might be worth a thought next time you add references to an article like that. Ta. Blue Square Thing (talk) 16:12, 13 November 2016 (UTC)

MIA event
Hello. I'm excited about the event at the MIA. I have helped organize a few meetups and edit-a-thons. Please let me know if you would like help spreading the word. Jonathunder (talk) 01:05, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Awesome, please do. I have added a note to the Meetup for where we can meet and discuss. I suggest that people bring laptops, I'll put together an agenda and have it be a session for teaching as well as getting some ideas for topics to edit and contribute. Shaded0 (talk) 01:17, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * How does this look? Jonathunder (talk) 04:44, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Cool! Nice job. That looks like a good banner to me. I am thinking about hosting a Meetup event monthly or semi-monthly to get some more local engagement and ideas. Do you have thoughts or input since you've coordinated before? It'd be great to get feedback and from other people as well.


 * For event meetups, the Minnesota History Center and the Minneapolis/Saint Paul libraries might be good future places. I also had some ideas for topics. I personally use AWB and other Wikipedia editor tools, so that would be something to discuss and teach for more advanced editors on using AWB, Huggle, and other tools. Shaded0 (talk) 05:42, 11 December 2016 (UTC)
 * We have had meetups at several libraries and at the history center and we have contacts in those places who have helped arrange things. I'll notify people who have attended those so hopefully some can be at the MIA Saturday. One week notice isn't much time. There may be editors who want to go but can't be there at 1 p.m. How long do you have the space that day? Jonathunder (talk) 14:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi, Shaded0. I believe I'll be able to attend. Let me know if I can be of help. I've not organized a meetup (and don't particularly care to) but have been a useful second banana to User:Gobonobo a couple times. I can help with editing training (though I'm much more conversant with source than Visual). I've also contributed a PowerPoint introduction to 1 or 2 meetups. Phil wink (talk) 16:28, 11 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Awesome, sure. If there's some folks that can't make it, doing a follow-up event for end of January I think would be good. I'm okay with staying as long as people want on Saturday, the museum is open until 5pm on Saturday. There's the Luther gallery going on that I'm sure people will want to check out. If people are interested, we might be able to go through together on one of their guided tours. The exhibit cost is around $15 for a ticket. I was planning on bringing a notebook and keeping some notes for any articles/research ideas. Tentatively, I'd say lets plan on spending the first hour for Wikipedia discussion, training, meetup and learning, then the rest with whatever people would like to do. Shaded0 (talk) 05:09, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * I won't be there today, partly because of weather, but I will try to go in January. I hope the meetup goes well. Jonathunder (talk) 18:01, 17 December 2016 (UTC)

Air filtration
I'm going to decline your speedy request, although it should be considered "without prejudice". If you would like to write about the process of air filtration (which I agree is probably a viable subject, separate from Air filter), I suggest you do so in the draft space or in your user space. Once the article is developed, I or another admin can delete the redirect and move your article then if you're not able to do so. In the meantime, while you're working on the article, the current redirect is probably the best situation. Good luck with the article drafting. Risker (talk) 05:48, 28 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, I am a bit confused on the process for WP:MOVE and WP:RM, it seems like this would be an uncontroversial move to move air filter to air filtration. Right now, in the wording for WP:MOVE it seems that this is the standard way to move an article under WP:BOLD unless it is seen as a controversial move. Since air filter would be a subset of air filtration, I think it makes sense to move the existing article for air filter to be air filtration as well as some possible rewrite to reflect the change. Shaded0 (talk) 16:18, 28 December 2016 (UTC)

Mia edit-a-thon
Minnesota Wikipedians are invited to an upcoming event. Even if this isn't your usual topic, experienced editors are needed to help new contributors. Might you be able to make it? McGhiever (talk) 04:21, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Aristotle's biology
Hi, I believe I've replied to all comments to date; over to you... Chiswick Chap (talk) 07:48, 31 January 2017 (UTC)

Saint Catherine Meetup
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Minneapolis/WomenInArt/St_Catherine_2017 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/StPaul/WomenInArt/St_Catherine_2017 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hesse1984 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

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Saint Cloud State University 2017 Wikipedia as Social Activism Meeting
Hello Shaded - Thank you for the invite for this meeting. Alas, I can not attend due to time restraints and transportation issues. Thank you for the invite anyway - take care. Dinky town  talk  01:26, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * No worries, thanks for following up. There are a few upcoming events in the twin cities in May/June up on Meetup/Minnesota, regards, Shaded0 (talk) 02:32, 30 March 2017 (UTC).

Your GA nomination of Cyberbullying
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April 2017 US Wikimedians meeting
Hi Shaded0! I've been following your great edit-a-thon work in Minnesota, and would like to invite you to participate in a poll to choose a time for the April 2017 US Wikimedians meeting, an online converstaion focusing on local groups and activities.--Pharos (talk) 08:42, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
 * The details on the call for Thursday April 20 are at WALRUS/April 2017, feel free to add to the agenda there!--Pharos (talk) 17:32, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Slightly promotional material, moved to draft
Hello! I just moved the page you created—Better Cotton Initiative—to the draft space at Draft:Better Cotton Initiative. The reason I did this is because the article seems slightly promotional in content. For example: "that promotes better standards in cotton farming and practices across 24 countries worldwide", "BCI also promotes use of better irrigation practices with farmers, as well as increasing farmer's profits by reducing fertilizers which can account for up to 60% of farming costs," "BCI is also committed to promoting fair work practices including the reduction of child labor in countries such as India," etc. If you can improve it, then you can just contact me and I will move it if I think that it is acceptable, or you can just move it yourself. Hope that explains everything. RileyBugz Yell at me &#124; Edits  22:28, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


 * Oh, and I forgot to add, when I moved it, I nominated the redirect for speedy deletion per WP:R2, as the move to the draft space created a redirect that needed to be deleted. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:30, 16 April 2017 (UTC)


 * These statements I don't consider to be overly promotional considering that its all been independently verified. Surprising and very positive results, yes. But considering the support from several NGO's including the World Wildlife Fund initiatives with farmers since 2005, I don't think it's worth "dumbing down" since its considerably of note the efforts with improving water use, conservation and fertilizer reduction. It goes to show how crazy these things get overused. I'll see if I can find anything on notable criticisms, but these statistics seem factually solid. Regards, Shaded0 (talk) 22:33, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Yes, but the prose could use altering. For example, remove the "across 24 countries worldwide", as that sounds exactly like something that would be in a press release. Also, maybe instead of saying better practices this, better practices that, specify what those practices are. For example, say that it is against the use of x product, or for the use of x irrigation technique. This will help clear up some things. Also, I don't think that it is overly promotional, it is just sorta-kinda promotional, so that is why I didn't PROD it or anything. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:39, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the comments. I'll review the prose as well and look at revising. Shaded0 (talk) 22:41, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * That is good. I tried to remove the promotional material that I didn't need to look at the source to remove. Also, you should try and stray away from using the company's website as a source. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  22:54, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * I generally agree, though I usually use my best judgement as well when pulling from company sources. I included a few other things on labor practices that I thought were more detailed on what their work included. Feel free to look into what was added and see if it looks okay for wording. Shaded0 (talk) 23:03, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Doesn't look too bad, but I think that you will need to replace stuff like "fair work practices" with something like (this is an example, IDK if it is supported) "gender equality in labour". The thing about generalizations like that is that what is fair, good, etc. is very subjective. RileyBugz Yell at me  &#124; Edits  23:07, 16 April 2017 (UTC)

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Editing News #1—2017
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Axios article
Hi Shadedo,

I noticed you made an addition to the article about Axios (website) and removed the GNG notice.

I am an experienced Wikipedia editor and a paid consultant to Axios. Back when the GNG notice was still up, I did a deeper dive into the article and I have come up with a more thorough article, that I hope will move it closer to the right direction as a more solid article.

I strive to abide by the Wikipedia five pillars, especially with NPOV, but as someone with a conflict of interest here, I wonder if you could review the proposed new draft/updates and decide whether to publish these. I'm available to help in any way I can.

Talk:Axios_(website)

Thanks for considering this request.

Ed BC1278 (talk) 19:08, 6 February 2018 (UTC)BC1278


 * I just corrected an inadvertent typo in the note above. It now reads, correctly, that I am a paid consultant to Axios, not Wikipedia. BC1278 (talk) 19:22, 6 February 2018 (UTC)BC1278

Editing News #1—2018
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Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has spent most of their time supporting the 2017 wikitext editor mode, which is available inside the visual editor as a Beta Feature, and improving the visual diff tool. Their work board is available in Phabricator. You can find links to the work finished each week at VisualEditor/Weekly triage meetings. Their current priorities are fixing bugs, supporting the 2017 wikitext editor, and improving the visual diff tool.

Recent changes

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MOS:EMPHASIS
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"merged MediaNews Group -> Digital First Media"
Edits such as this edit should not be done. They are WP:NOTBROKEN. --Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:03, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
 * fair enough, I could have sworn the policy for merges included fixing all the "what links here" links - but it appears that it only applies for double redirects per the latest WP:Moving a page. Shaded0 (talk) 19:07, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

woodbridge, western australia
has very specifically dmy indicator in the article - Australian usage is dmy - cheers JarrahTree 01:32, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Will need to remove the day(th) format though since Manual_of_Style/Dates_and_numbers excludes use of ordinals. Shaded0 (talk) 02:11, 19 July 2018 (UTC)
 * no problems - no one pays much attention to that sort of detail - so thanks - the australian context has been compounded by some insistence of confusion on gb english and au english tags - but inmost cases the dmy is there.. I see your point - cheers JarrahTree 02:13, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

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Editing News #2—2018
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Recent changes

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