User talk:ShadowsMysteryQueen

Deletion of Kam Ruble
Hi ShadowsMysteryQueen.

The fundamental reason that Wikipedia's article on Kam Ruble was deleted is because the subject of the article did not appear to meet this encyclopedia's standards for inclusion. We require third-party sources to demonstrate this. In this case, it would mean that we would need references to reviews or press articles about this author and her books, and that these sources would have to be independent of the author and the publisher. Note that reviews on Amazon, blogs, and other sources open to public contributions are not sufficient.

As for "Global Authors Publications" not being a vanity press, I quote here directly from their website: If your book meets GAP standards, then you will be offered a chance to have it published. Your cost will be $2.000 (payable in two installments) with a yearly fee of just $150 to cover record keeping. That's the very definition of a vanity press.

Please note, though, that if an author has received the reviews and press coverage I mentioned earlier, then even if they publish through such an arrangement, they would still be eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia.

In the discussion about deletion, the word "vanity" was used mostly as shorthand for "vanity page" not "vanity press"; at the time, this was a common way to describe pages that people had contributed about themselves (the term is no longer commonly used). Wikipedia treats such contributions as a fairly fundamental Conflict of Interest, for reasons that should be obvious. So, even if press coverage and reviews exist to demonstrate that Ms Ruble is a notable author, Wikipedia's article about her should not be written by her, her publisher, or anyone personally connected with her.

I hope this helps - if you have any other questions, please feel free to ask me, or the folks over at WikiProject Books. Cheers --Rlandmann (talk) 19:52, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

I will add that, if you believe that the deletion went against Wikipedia deletion policies, you may request a deletion review (see that page for details). It appears, however, that this deletion was not out of process. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 23:33, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Also, in your comment on Gwalla's talk page you talked about deleting a person from Wikipedia. Don't take it personal. We deleted the article. Not the person. As for publishing. I'd recommend that you and Kam (if you happen to be different people) to look into other lines of publishing. http://www.ishouldbewriting.com and http://www.accrispin.blogspot.com should offer the basics. One of their mantras is that "money should flow towards the author". (in short, authors should get advance payment from their publisher) There are plenty of small presses and self-publishers that only ask you to pay for the ISBN number and distribution (less than $100). After that print on demand takes over. Books are only printed when ordered which means the customer pays for the product which means you don't have to pay for large print runs or storage. Result? You'll be able to make a profit on each sale with a lot less expenses. I think the $150 administrative cost is fishy to say the least. Hope this helps. -- Mgm|(talk) 11:42, 14 March 2009 (UTC)