User talk:Shakedownstreet120/Pisa Griffin

Improvements for Pisa Griffin Article
Hi @Shakedownstreet120! You've done some interesting research on the Pisa Griffin and the new ways that historians are examining it. The strongest part of your draft is where you directly integrate new information from reliable sources. The weakest parts are where you are simply rewriting things in your own words. In the Intro section, for example, saying that the sculpture is "made up of" bronze rather than just "The Pisa Griffin is a large bronze sculpture" seems to just add words. Another example is changing "42 in" to "over three feet tall" (less precise). If the Intro isn't broken, no need to try to fix it! In general, I would say avoid editing the intro since it seems fairly clear and well written already. Another issue is that we need to stick with encyclopedic, neutral language. No need to wax rhapsodical about the work being beautiful, etc., or to make it sound mysterious (though it is!). I would scrap the "Secrets that it holds" title and add that great info about 3D scanning and modeling under the subsection "Later Movements." The info on the Mari Chan Lion doesn't seem to be explicitly mentioned in the article already, though there are citations. Maybe you could mention this linked object in the section on Kufic inscriptions, since they both share that? Or maybe the music/sound making similarity is an even better link. Let me know what you think! ProfTern (talk) 23:52, 2 December 2023 (UTC)

Inscription
Hi @Shakedownstreet120 - I took a closer look at the PDF that you reference and it is a chapter from a book edited by Anna Contadini called The Pisa Griffin and the Mari-Cha Lion: Metalwork, Art, and Technology in the Medieval Islamicate Mediterranean published by the company Pacini Editore in 2018. That means that the translation of the inscription that you located is more recent than the last one and should not have been reverted (IMO). Go to the Talk page for the Pisa Griffin and scroll down to the topic "for the owner." Repost your translation without the Arabic transliteration and see what the other editors think. It is really important that when you offer this updated translation, you point to where you got it (a fairly recent book edited by a Professor of the History of Islamic Art). ProfTern (talk) 00:16, 3 December 2023 (UTC)