User talk:Shalor (Wiki Ed)/Archive 10

User talk:Sehar.h
Hi Shalor. I haven't bothered you in awhile, so hope you're doing well. Perhaps you can help this student editor with their non-free content issues. Currently, it's just a case of WP:NFCC so it's not too big a deal; however, after looking at their sandbox, there's probably no real way to justify that type of non-free content use even if it was an article. They can, of course, link to the article about the product if they want if their draft is approved, but again there's no real contextual justification (at least not at the moment) to use the file. Maybe there's a file from Commons that they can use instead for the same encyclopedic purpose? As always, thanks in advance for helping me with these student editors. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:39, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:56, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your help on this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 06:32, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Mcompo (talk)
Hello.

I need help with looking over my additions to this site, please! I am a student in the "AmWriting Fall 2018 M11" course with Professor Cravy/Azar. Thank you for you review and assistance!

--Mcompo (talk) 19:05, 28 November 2018 (UTC) Michaela Compo
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Lizgonzalez511 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

If you would please specifically help me by looking over the criticism section to see if there is any rewording that needs to be done. Also if you could help with any overall comments on my additions that would be great. Thank you!

--Lizgonzalez511 (talk) 19:58, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from HC (talk)
Hello.

I need help with citations

--HC (talk) 20:47, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Deena.husami (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... Reviewing the article for some final edit recommendations.

--Deena.husami (talk) 21:57, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:28, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Mail
Doug Weller talk 21:05, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Yikes, what an ugly section title this generates! That huge, blue box is actually the section header, which is why it all shows up in the ToC as a giant section title. Maybe that template isn't designed to be embedded inside a heading. (pinging Doug Weller)  Mathglot (talk) 21:26, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * thanks, fixed it. Doug Weller  talk 21:30, 29 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks guys! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:36, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Talk page lacking student assignment template
Hi Shalor, I notice that the Talk:Deaf culture page lacks the Wikied assignment banner I usually see there, when a student is editing on an assignment. I see that 's course is Wiki Ed/George Washington University/AmWriting Fall 2018 M 75 and that the box next to her name is empty. Is that why it's not on the D.c. Talk page? Whose responsibility is it to 1) fill in the assignment column at the course page, and 2) to add the assignement template to the article TP? Adding Sage, who I think is interested in such issues as well. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 21:34, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi ! Typically a student will assign themselves a page and Dashboard will automatically add the tag to the page. If they don't assign it to themselves on Dashboard, the tag would have to be manually added, which doesn't always happen. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:37, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * K, added it. Mathglot (talk) 21:50, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Deletion of page and other things
I understand that the page I created constitutes as "vandalism" and an "attack page". The creation of the page was not meant to serve as either of those things. I knew that creating the page would violate Wikipedias policy and that it would be easily deleted. I only created it to show my friend (humdan ahmed) how easy it was to create a page on wikipedia. This message is only to inform you that I was aware of the consequences, and that I apologize for doing it. Thank you.

Also, I would like to address the other edits I had made before. I knowingly made these edits since I knew they would be taken down quickly. I only went through with them because I needed to meet a quota of 10 edits to be able to edit an article that I actually need to edit. I will no longer make these kind of edits since I now have access to edit these pages. Sorry, and thank you again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edgon55 (talk • contribs) 22:58, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * . I'm not associated with Wiki Ed so I'm not posting on behalf of anyone there or even on behalf of Shalor, but your post above is basically an admission of what is commonly referred to as being not here. If you continue to make these kinds of edits, you're going to quickly find yourself having problems with others and eventually the subject of discussion at one of the administrator noticeboards. Just like anyone else, you're expected to edit according to Wikipedia's various policies and guidelines.It's OK to make mistakes, and other editors will be understanding when they happen. If those mistakes, however, start to become disruptive, then you'll quickly find that others are going to be less willing to write them off as a newbie error. While I understand part of the reason you might be editing probably has to do with it being a class assignment, you will not be given any special consideration because you're a student trying to get a good grade.There are plenty of ways to be here for Wikipedia; so, if you want to boost your edit count for some reason, then make edits which actually improve the encyclopedia. That's the best way to ensure that you remain an editor in good standing and are a positive to the project. Editors who choose to be a negative by disrupting articles and causing others to devote time and energy to sorting out any messes left, often quickly find themselves on the outside looking in. -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:35, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for taking your time to advise me, I really appreciate it. I understand fully now that what I was doing was wrong. I won't be doing anything that violates wikipedia's policy anymore. I apologize for my newbie mistakes, I plan on actually being here to improve Wikipedia for my school project. Thanks again!
 * I've copied this to your talk page to make sure that you see it and added in the context of your message. I want to second what said and emphasize that this can lead to a block. It's really, really, really heavily frowned upon to make these edits - even if you're doing them knowing that they will be removed or perhaps especially so, since you're setting out to be disruptive. Basically, think of it this way: you wouldn't vandalize something in real life because you know it's destructive and not a good use of time (plus you can get in trouble)- the same premise applies here. --Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Katem0315 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I've underlined the writing that I added to Walker Percy's page. I also added a photograph that I want to include because his current page does not have one. I also made a major change to the structure because I thought that the life and career sections should go together as they share many aspects and influences. I modeled the new structure after Maya Angelou's page which is a featured article. I was wondering if you think the new structure is beneficial or should be left how it was originally? I also added an "Influence" subheading and information to follow which was not previously there. I was also wondering if you could read over what I have written to make sure the information is necessary and appropriately written for Wikipedia? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

--Katem0315 (talk) 17:07, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Clutzenb
Hello I would like to move my draft page Cuban discriminatory laws titles Social dangerousness to the main space but I am not allowed to. Thanks in advanced Clutzenb (talk) 05:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)ClutzenbClutzenb (talk) 05:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Replied on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:07, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Rme22031 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I don't have much sources to pull for so I couldn't find many citations. Aside from that, could you please take a look at my work giving me tips to write a better wikipedia page. thank you,

--Rme22031 (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:11, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Majid367 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with

all of it in general. Like if its good enough, I want some feedback. Its also a part of legacy.

--Majid367 (talk) 19:55, 29 November 2018 (UTC) Umar Rana
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Rasophia (talk)
Hello,

I was hoping to get your feedback on my page, to see if it is in compliance with the Wikipedia rules and if there is anything else you suggest for me to revise such as grammar. Thank you in advance.

--Rasophia (talk) 20:27, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:30, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Sehar.h (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

just a general review of my work

--Sehar.h (talk) 21:41, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:57, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Rcadieux22 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

reviewing and editing my sandbox information so that it is suitable for the official Wikipedia page. Thank you!

--Rcadieux22 (talk) 04:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:35, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Pre-Publish Editing
Hi Shalor!

I am writing to ask you for what to look for in my sandbox before being able to publish it. Also how much content is 'enough' for the class? Thank you and talk soon! Muffin110 (talk) 05:34, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Ilena p (talk)
Hello.

Hope all is well! I was just hoping to get some general feedback on the content in my sandbox. Thank you!

--Ilena p (talk) 16:09, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Eunsun041299 (talk)
Hello.

I would like to get your general feedback on my work on Sandbox. Could you please look over my work, please? Please advise me what to improve on.

Thank You.

--Eunsun041299 (talk) 17:18, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. ReaderofthePack (formerly Tokyogirl79)  (｡◕‿◕｡)  21:26, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Help adding edit description
Hi there Shalor, I just did a fairly large edit to my assigned wiki article page (Banshees), but made a mistake while reviewing my changes and clicked "publish" before adding a description of the changes. Is there any way to go back and add a description? I want to be able to explain my work and make sure others working on the article don't get upset or assume my changes are bad. Thank you Scopes033 (talk) 17:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - you can't really go back and add an edit summary to the addition you made, but you can definitely still post to the article's talk page and give a general head's up there. That may actually be better, since you won't have to worry about trying to fit it into the letter/character limit for the edit summary. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:29, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Obrienemilyh (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

General feedback

--Obrienemilyh (talk) 18:06, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:48, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Anjinimathur (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... editing for language and overall content, seeing where I cam improve my writing or if I can add anything else that I haven't already.

Thank you so much!

--Anjinimathur (talk) 18:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I need more information about the draft. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:32, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

A barnstar for you.

 * Thank you ! You don't know how nice it was to see this, especially after a day of working. Also, I absolutely don't mind you putting my talk page on your watchlist. I think it's definitely a good thing, since I highly encourage students to interact with other editors since it's part of the whole assignment and Wikipedia experience, plus helps teach them collaboration with people outside of their class. :) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:56, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm glad to hear it. I've been a (skeptical) reader of Wikipedia for years and finally decided to start editing after an alarming experience as an IP editor of what felt like bullying (indignation is very motivating). Since then I've taken so much time to read critiques of the weaknesses of this project (with a particular focus on demographics and consequent systemic bias), so people like you and a few others really stand out to me as those who are working against the lurching inertia of this project's problems. But in your case it's in a very direct and clear way that brings the project forward. I think that the material produced by Wiki Ed should be read by the other experienced editors. I also find it rewarding to provide feedback to the student editors, so I'll keep doing it. Is there a page I could subscribe to that lists their various efforts? Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 22:02, 30 November 2018 (UTC)


 * We'll post some of the highlights to WP:ENB via a monthly report and that's also a place where people will post with concerns, but it's not going to have all of the edits. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Bshoukeir24 (talk)
Hello! I need help with content of the sections in my sandbox for the British Sign Language Page. There was no content on those sections (phonology and grammar) except for one sentence each, and I'm no expert on the topic so I don't know if the content I have is a good start. I'm aware about how the citations should look on the page, but that isn't how they are in my sandbox at the moment. My main concern is the content. I'm not including all the details, and my goal is just to provide and over view of the two sections.

Your feed back would be very much appreciated! Thank you!

--Bshoukeir24 (talk) 21:45, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * As far as content goes, the content should be OK as long as you are summarizing what is stated in the source material. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:03, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Carefree Black Girls
Hi and belated thanks for your help with this! I'm so sorry I've wound up quite tied up off-wiki lately and haven't properly had a chance to thank you. Really appreciate your assistance as always.

Imposing again because it won't be soon that I have enough time to engage the student myself, and this edit seems to suggest s/he needs really a lot of guidance about the basic genre of encyclopedia writing we're aiming for. I haven't reverted yet because this is the sort of topic I begin entries for rather specifically in hopes of encouraging participation by people who might be underrepresented in the editoriat. So I don't want to do anything that would discourage anyone! But I also haven't the time just now to onboard someone from scratch. I don't know if you might be able to help, whether talking to the student directly or being in touch with the instructor (I don't know if other students from the same class are having the same issues.)

Thanks so much Shalor! Innisfree987 (talk) 19:08, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know, ! I've removed the content and left them a note about the edits. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 23:54, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I was worried about starting a conversation that I might not be around to continue in a sustained way. Really appreciate your helping the student along. Thanks! Innisfree987 (talk) 00:31, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Thank You!
Thank you for your timely response and deep analysis! I will get back to you after I make corrections.Muffin110 (talk) 00:47, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No problem! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 00:51, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Apologies
I am deeply sorry, I will not commit any sort of violations any longer. I intend on bettering a specific article and will follow all guidelines on how to make a proper edit according to the wikipedia's policy. I now understand the severity of my actions. Again, it was never my intention to be so disruptive and blatant, I didn't fully understand much on how wikipedia worked so I did what I did. Thank you for the heads up, I'll do my best from now on! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Edgon55 (talk • contribs) 04:00, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Good - just keep in mind that this is not tolerated and that you will have to be extra careful with editing, since now your edits may be viewed with increased suspicion. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:05, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Megan Osterhaus (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Making sure these sections I added in are both relevant and properly formatted.

--14:58, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Megan Osterhaus (talk)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:16, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

requesting feedback
Hello. my name is Abby Melvin and I go to George Washington University

I need help with requesting feed back on my wikipedia project page about Simone Biles

Abby Melvin — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sealy1999 (talk • contribs) 01:35, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Icleamons (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I am in Professor Azar's class at George Washington University and am submitting my work for your feedback. Thank you very much!

--Icleamons (talk) 02:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Left note. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:38, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Mollyemm0307 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with editing my page and making sure everything meets wikipedia standards.

-Molly

--Mollyemm0307 (talk) 03:31, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from TiffanyLiu12 (talk)
Hello.

The underlined portions in my sandbox are what I have contributed. I have added the section "Influence of Popular Culture" and subsections under "Test Methods" to the "Doping in Sport" Wikipedia page. I need help with looking at the overall information and citations of my work to see if they meet the criteria of Wikipedia.

Thank you so much!

--04:41, 1 December 2018 (UTC)TiffanyLiu12 (talk)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:32, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from 18bethanyh (talk)
Hello.

I need help with editing my paper. I have added more of an introduction to this paper as well as added a third paragraph to the second section.

Bethany Harker --18bethanyh (talk) 04:46, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:00, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Jamiewang47 (talk)
Hi Shalor,

I was wondering if I could receive some feedback on the edits I plan to make to the "Space Law" page. I have included italicized sentences explaining more edits in detail. Thank you in advance!

Best, Jamie Wang jamiewang47@gwu.edu

--Jamiewang47 (talk) 04:59, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:03, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Gabrielbsousa (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Revising the way in which the corrected paragraph is written, especially if it fits with the Wikipedia standards so that I can move one and edit other paragraphs correctly.

Thank you for your help, Best Regards

--Gabrielbsousa (talk) 10:21, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:11, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Divrath (talk)
Hello,

I was wondering if you would mind providing me feedback for my page on the Samba dance as a part of the project I am doing for Professor Azar's UW writing class. Thanks!

Divya Divrath (talk) 22:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

--Divrath (talk) 22:13, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Help with Sandbox Waleeda2018 (talk)
Hello.

I was hoping that you could read over my sandbox and let me know what you think I should edit. I chose this page as part of a class project to improve a C-class page and I was hoping to receive a little input.

--Waleeda2018 (talk) 02:39, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded with notes. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:36, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Couellette215 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

Checking the sandbox before I move the information to the mainspace

--Couellette215 (talk) 17:15, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Need more info. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:49, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Jodijansen (talk)
Hello.

I need help moving my article into the mainspace. I went through the "moving" process, and it was renamed properly, but it still looks like a test page. At the bottom, it still says: "This is a user sandbox of New Minster Charter. A user sandbox is a subpage of the user's user page. It serves as a testing spot and page development space for the user and is not an encyclopedia article." Did I miss a step? Or is it simply awaiting evaluation? Thank you for your help.

--Jodijansen (talk) 20:48, 2 December 2018 (UTC)Jodijansen
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:53, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Eanderson304 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I was editing my article and made some key changes. My computer shut down before I was able to save those changes to my sandbox. Is there any way I can get those back? I've been trying for over an hour and I need help please! The article must be uploaded tonight. If I am not able to do so, how can I get my sandbox out of "edit source" mode? Earlier it was just giving me the option to type on a normal wiki page without the coding template. How do I get back to that in my sandbox

--Eanderson304 (talk) 22:26, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi . If you saved a copy of what you were working on at the time to your computer's hard drive, then you should still have it somewhere there. If, however, your computer shut down before doing that, then I'm afraid that content is probably gone for ever. Whenever you "publish" something to a Wikipedia page, a record of it is saved in the page's history for attribution purposes; so, if you make some changes, click "Publish changes", make some more changes, click "publish changes", make some more changes and your then computer shuts down, there should be a record of the first two edits, but not the the third one. I don't believe Wikipedia has an automatic recover function like some word processing programs do in which you able to restore unsaved versions of whatever you're working on because it doesn't automatically make temporary backups as you're working on something. I'm also not sure what you mean by the article must be uploaded to not. I'm assuming since you're a student, you mean your teacher set tonight as the deadline for submitting your work. However, if User:Eanderson304/sandbox is what we're talking about here, please don't move that to the article namespace as a stand-alone article because if you do there's a really good chance that it will be deleted or moved back to your sandbox before the sun rises tomorrow. Not trying to be too harsh, but you're draft has some formatting, sourcing, tone and even notability issues which probably need to be sorted out first. You might be better off asking your teacher to look at and assess your sandbox if you want them to check your work. Once you add anything to the article namespace, it will be there for anyone anywhere in the world to revise or even possibly nominate/tag for deletion. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:49, 1 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks ! I've left them some notes on their draft in the past but it looks like the issues are still applicable. If you have anything to add to my notes, to give them a second opinion of sorts or back up my notes, that would be awesome - I don't want to impose on you, though. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Impose on me as much as you want, but I don't think I can improve on what you wrote. Moreover, I'm actually the real (im)poser for trying to answer a post left for you by someone else on your user talk. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:29, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

NASCAR Winston Cup Series Era
Hi Shalor. I guess this must be your busy season for school projects. I came across NASCAR Winston Cup Series Era while checking on some more non-free images. I'm not very knowledgeable about NASCAR racing, but this kind of seems like content taken from various other articles and repackaged in a stand-alone article which might not actually be needed. I'm bring this to you because it appears to be the work of a couple of students you're helping. It seems the students might be part of the same class as and are facing the same deadline. I understand from previous discussions that moving a article into the mainspace is part of the things required for some of these classes, but I'm not sure that's a really good idea. It might be a good idea to get some feedback from WP:NASCAR on this since the members of that WikiProject probably can best tell whether this deserves a stand-alone article. I was going to post something about this at WT:NASCAR, but that might lead to a quick and harsh response; so, I'd figured I'd see what you think first since you have already interacted with these students. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:13, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * - do you think it should be moved back? The students are meant to move their work live, however if it's not ready (and offhand it doesn't look ready, among other issues) they should leave it in their userspace. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * It's already in the mainspace and doesn't look too bad (formatting), so I've asked for other feedback (about the content) at WT:MOTOR and WT:NASCAR. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:44, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

I found a stray student editor (they've never been greeted by a Wiki Ed person etc.)
I should have brought this to your attention earlier, but I found a stray student editor a while back while browsing the tea house. Only now that I've looked through the greetings that you post on students' pages do I realize that they should probably be connected to some kind of student editor interface (the dashboard?). Their talk page and article page didn't indicate that they were a student editor (they're working on a draft right now and I added the class assignment notice on their talk page for them). I've pointed them in the direction of the tutorials, the Wiki Education noticeboard, and I've encouraged them to connect their professor with the right resources (hopefully their grading doesn't penalize them for being unsuccessful at violating Wikipedia's guidelines).

In the future would it be better for me to leave messages on the Education noticeboard? You're the only education liaison that I've seen so far, so this is where I knew to turn to help this student editor. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 05:57, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
 * After reading the noticeboard guidelines I went ahead and started a conversation there as well, so that more eyes can see that this student needs some help: Education_noticeboard Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 06:03, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the head's up ! Offhand I don't see where she's connected to a specific course already running with us, so we'll have to watch and see if they passes this along to her instructor or if they do something that identifies the university so that we can better try to find the instructor and reach out to them. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:18, 20 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Without speaking for Wiki Ed, I can just say that if you spot a new editor that doesn't have a welcome notice yet, just go ahead and add one. You don't need to wait for anyone to give you a green light to add a welcome notice, irrespective of whether the new editor is part of a course or not.  I've added hundreds of them; you can too, if you want. You'll find a list of welcome notices to choose from at WP:WT. Cordially, Mathglot (talk) 06:55, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thanks, . I love welcoming people (and I found the student welcome notice template too), so I'll be sure to always do it. But if I see a student who hasn't gotten connected with a course, I'll be sure to post on the noticeboard. I was learning as I went which is why my tone was so concerned above (I'm new here). Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 07:03, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * PS. Wiki Ed rocks! Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 07:09, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Hope that your day went well.


Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) has given you a fresh pie! Pies promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day a little better. Spread the WikiLove by giving someone else a piping hot pie, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Bon appetit!

Spread the tastiness of pies by adding {{subst:GivePie}} to their talk page with a friendly message. I see that you're getting many more student requests. Thanks for all you do! Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 07:22, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Sgrey188 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with the changes I made to my article. Will you look over the article and let me know if I should change anything?

--Sgrey188 (talk) 21:57, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:39, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from HistoriansCraft (talk)
Hello.

I would love to get a general picture of where my article is at, as well as where it's strengths and weaknesses are.

--HistoriansCraft (talk) 22:23, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks great! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:11, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Students or socks?
Hi Shalor, I have come across a relatively large group of editors who may be students. They do not appear to be part of any Wiki Ed project, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are socks. The accounts were all created in the last few months. I cannot disclose what institution they appear to be from, but it is in the United States. Here's a list:



There are no doubt more but I didn't want to continue checking if they turn out to be students. Behaviorally, even the ones who have posted only to Talk pages, share obvious similarities. They are disruptive and not-so-disruptive. The most common disruption is copyright violations. Also, much of the material they post to articles is very student-thesis-like. What do you think?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:52, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - sorry for not getting to this sooner, work has picked up a lot. Looking at this, it definitely looks like a case of a rogue class assignment as opposed to sockpuppetry. In any case, I saw that they do seem to be from a community college (not naming the one) based on the proxies they used in the sourcing. It's not one of our current colleges that we're working with (ie, a current class), but I've left them some messages asking them to get their professor to contact us. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:23, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much (I can see how busy you are). Please let me know if there's an update.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:51, 4 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Can do! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:53, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Katem0315 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

I am trying to transfer an image of Walker Percy to the info box on his mainspace page, but when I try to insert the picture it comes up as a blue box with a question mark and the picture doesn't show up. However, if I try to put the picture somewhere else on the page it shows up, just not when I try to put it in the info box. I was wondering if I was doing something wrong or how I could fix this? Thank you!

--Katem0315 (talk) 16:28, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Looks to have been resolved. :) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:56, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Jevilla001 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... im not quite sure if I am adding citations correctly. Im still working on finding credible sources and documents that officially declare Columbus Day in Latin American countries but so far I have only found one that has most of the Latin American countries and their respective holiday names. What do you think I should do? Also need help with general work?

Thank you smooch and if you have any questions please let me know.

--Jevilla001 (talk) 16:31, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on their talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:05, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Ahmed Abdelkariem (talk)
Hello. The first section is yet to be converted into a paragraph form and added to "late career"

tthe sceond section is a new section for the author work thou I only explore her most famous work Trifles and its movie adaptation "a Jurj of Her Peers"

--Ahmed Abdelkariem (talk) 22:38, 3 December 2018 (UTC)Ahmed Abdel

Thank you for your time
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:52, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from 17:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
Hello.

I need help with reviewing my sand box for Kate Chopin's biography before it is able to published. I would like to restructure the original page of Kate Chopin by focusing on her writing by modify the part "Literary Theme". The bold part is the original content. I am looking forward to hearing from you soon.

--Khactung273 (talk) 17:50, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:31, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Userpage Help
Hi Shalor. I've noticed that my Userpage doesn't include the same boxed message stating that I am a student editor in my course. I am enrolled in the class as part of my WikiEdu course, I have completed the training modules, and I am listed on the "Student" page for my course. The course is also listed on "My Dashboard" and my username and article are featured on the course's Wikipedia project page. I'm just wondering why, when navigating to my userpage from the course page, I don't have the same "This user is a student editor in ..." message on my page. Thank you. Aprad17 (talk) 04:27, 2 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Fixed! Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:44, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks so much! Aprad17 (talk) 02:51, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Happystudent111 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with...

My Contributions heading. I would just like to make sure I've properly cited/credited the sources that I am referring to in that heading. I have italicized  public online journal databases, while citing the contributions/titles that my scholar has written. Is this fine?

Thank you

Happystudent111 (talk) 15:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

--Happystudent111 (talk) 15:14, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:07, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Royo322 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... I thought this was posted as an active article weeks ago but upon a second look it seems that is not? Did I move the page to another user page?

--Royo322 (talk) 01:40, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:23, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

assigned article not showing edits
I have an article assigned to me for my class, and it shows that I have no edits on our dashboard and it shows no changes in the article, yet on my sandbox it shows all my contribution and it shows all my activity. Why does it not show that my article has changed and contributions and is being eddited on my course home page? thank you Emily Ullrich — Preceding unsigned comment added by MsSoftballMom (talk • contribs) 04:57, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Will respond on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 20:48, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

Apologies for plagiarism
Hi Shalor. I deeply regret that I unintentionally plagiarized the article by paraphrasing certain paragraphs using other sources. I will make sure to take notes and put my own words. Thank you. Kvl40981 (talk) 01:04, 7 December 2018 (UTC)Kvl40981
 * Thank you - all I ask is that you take care to not do this again in the future and that you follow Wikipedia's guidelines. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:46, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Nafiskabir000 (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... Hi i really need help with this assignment i really don't understand anything i need know what i'm doing because i have to present by Wednesday please help me I need help.

--Nafiskabir000 (talk) 06:27, 8 December 2018 (UTC) Nafis kabir
 * Hi . Shalor (Wiki Ed) might just be a little busy at the moment, but I'm sure she'll get back to you when she can. It also appears that the two Wiki Ed experts assigned to help your class are and . Have you tried actually asking one of them about this? Perhaps one of them can help. It was also suggested to you at WP:THQ that you ask your class teacher, but please understand that the Wikipedia Teahouse is generally a place to ask general questions about Wikipedia editing; so, the Teahouse hosts might not be familiar with your specific assignment to offer anything other than some general advice like that. -- Marchjuly (talk) 22:50, 8 December 2018 (UTC)


 * Thank you ! <3 Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:49, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Lordakowski (talk)
Hello.

I went through and bolded many of the changes that I made. The three bulleted lists were all updated and corrected. Thank you!

--Lordakowski (talk) 01:59, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:01, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Greekromank (talk)
Hello.

I need help with just putting my page on Wikipedia so I can see how many characters I've added. It's a new article and I've doe all the trainings but it still does not let me. Greekromank (talk) 17:10, 8 December 2018 (UTC) Kate
 * I have just reviewed your article, and made a couple of tweaks, plus a suggestion for a better reference, which you'll find on your talk page. There are two ways to work out character counts. The first way, you should know already, which is to simply paste the relevant sections into MS Word, delete irrelevant stuff like reference characters etc, then use Word's own wordcount tool. The second is a tool that works in the same way, and you can find it here: http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/script2/charcount.shtml Hope this helps. Regards  Nick Moyes (talk) 00:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC) (talk page stalker and Teahouse host)


 * Thanks !, you can also see a general count of how much you've added by reviewing your numbers on Dashboard, on the student's tab. I'll copy all of this over to your talk page to make sure that you see this. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:04, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Lmagui01 (talk)
Hello.

My the person I researched already has a wikipedia article but all it is is a redirect to another page. There is no content in it. It won't let me publish my article because it shares the same name. How can I publish my article?

--Lmagui01 (talk) 17:35, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

DYK Nomination Errors
Hey, I screwed up this DYK nomination about How to be Drawn. I did it for the final exam, could you please help me very quickly? Thank you! PeterYatesVT (talk) 19:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * No rush... Dr Aaij (talk) 21:57, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Copyright Infringement
Hello, Shalor,

I came across a student article that has been tagged three times for speedy deletion, deleted twice and then recreated twice that suffers from copyright infringement. Each time it's created, different websites'content has been lifted.

I'm coming to you because you were the contact person for The University of Alabama class and I just want to urge you to let students thinking of submitting articles to Wikipedia know that we can't accept articles with even a hint of copyright infringement. Even if it is just one paragraph of an entire article, it's not acceptable. I realize that you know this, I'm guessing that some of the students don't quite get it yet. Thanks. Liz Read! Talk! 23:55, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi - was this for Photographic Communication  page? I've let their instructor know and I've told the student that continuing to do this will get them blocked. Thank you for letting me know about this! I definitely try to make sure that they know that there's a zero tolerance policy for copyright infringement on Wikipedia. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk)
 * How did you know?! Yes, that was the article. There is definitely a learning curve for students and I'm coming across articles placed on category pages and stuff like that but it's nothing that we can't clean up. But copyright is definitely a more serious issue. It might be news to students that Wikipedia has such strong standards! I'd say the biggest error I'm coming across is students trying to make a new article on a subject that already has an article. It's so much more work revising an article than creating a new stub!
 * Good luck with the work you do! Liz Read! Talk! 00:52, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Sealy1999 (talk)
Hello.

I separated everything I edited in my sandbox. I did a lot of reorganizing of information. I did not delete any content, I just put it in a different section.

--Sealy1999 (talk) 14:15, 10 December 2018 (UTC)Abby Melvin
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:27, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding to an existing article
Hey Shalor so everytime I try to go in and add to the Gender Inequality article I have it breaks up the article. How do I stop this from happening or is there something wrong currently with what I am adding. Kalynnmc (talk) 20:42, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Will respond on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:29, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Kyoung H Park Draft
Hi, Shalor I appreciate all your help! Your post on my talk page definitely helped clear up what I need to work on to be a credible article. I have found new, secondary sources to replace Kyoung's personal website. However, my main issue is that many of these secondary sources seem to pull from Kyoung's website. Furthermore, most publications/articles that have significant information about Park are in the form of interviews. How do you suggest I proceed? Booklad123 (talk) 22:31, 10 December 2018 (UTC)booklad
 * Will reply on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:04, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Feedback
Hi, I was hoping I could get feedback on my article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnzy13 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on their talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 19:22, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Editing a page for a class on Feminist Texts and Theories Feminist Publishing
Dear Shalor,

Thank you for your welcome message. I took the wiki courses related to the class I am taking at the Graduate Center CUNY: https://dashboard.wikiedu.org/courses/CUNY_Graduate_Center/Feminist_Text_and_Theories_Feminist_Publishing_(Fall_2018). This is where I have to edit a page as an assignment. For now, I have gathered the sources that I want to use to improve the history part of this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women%27s_rights_in_Haiti. The idea is to ad more information about the recent history of the movement. I have doubts about my sources: I am not sure they all fit the criteria for wikipedia. JeKale 16:28, 11 December 2018 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Katia.Henrys (talk • contribs)
 * I'll respond on your talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:17, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

hi shalor
Thank you for the kind review. I added some new sources and tried to clean up the language. I am uploading it again on the talk page.please let me know what you think. thanks! edit: okay no worries no hurries. I will check the wiki sources to go over the right way of writing. thank you for the feedback — Preceding unsigned comment added by Detefabel (talk • contribs) 19:57, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Btmatthe (talk)
Hello.

I need help with... creating a title for my article and adding it to an existing page.

--Btmatthe (talk) 00:17, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded on talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 15:31, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Update on Kyoung H. Park
Shalor, For some reason, my talk page will not allow me to reply to your post, so I am replying to you on your talk page. Once again, thank you for your constructive help. I believe I have addressed the issues in your notes that you have not already changed. I have added the dates that the plays have been published in the list of works. Also, I found a section from Americantheatre.org that states that Kyoung is the first Korean from Latin America to publish in the United States. I hope that this serves as a sufficient source. I understand your concern about this claim, but I believe it to be a very important aspect of Kyoung's career. Furthermore, I have removed Theaterscene.net and have found more legitimate sources that talk about Kyoung's plays. In regards to primary sources, I have found that most of the significant information regarding Kyoung's notability comes from sources that contain interviews. I strongly believe that the information I pull from Park is integral in understanding Park's career. Please let me know if there is more to be done, I would love to get this article fully published Booklad123 (talk) 02:24, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Hi ! I'll respond here and on your page. Thank you for fixing the dates. I did change the writing up slightly with the first claim to saying that he's credited as being the first, since that gives a bit more wiggle room. With interviews, you can definitely use them but they won't be seen as non-primary by many Wikipedians so it's really not a good idea to rely heavily on interviews to establish notability. I've added some sourcing and I think that there may be enough to squeak by, it may be a good idea to ask to take a look, as he was the admin who handled the deletion. (Note, he wasn't the person who tagged the page.) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:04, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * , posting here to keep everything together. I believe the relevant notability criterion is Notability (people). I have to say that I can't see how he meets any of the relevant criteria. He puts on his own plays, which don't appear to be notable, at his own venue. None of that ticks any of the notability criteria. Even the poorly sourced claim that he is the first Korean in Latin America to be produced and published in the United States is so constrained as to be almost meaningless. He's not the first Korean, nor the the first Latin America. How many Korean Latin American playwrights are there? The category seems to have been created for him! I don't think he's notable,and the article does little more than, in effect, to promote him and his plays. Jimfbleak -  talk to me?  16:32, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from JohnnelRawson (talk)
Hello.

I need help with moving my sandbox draft into the proper wikipedia article "Working Hours in South Korea". I'm trying to publish these two paragraphs for an assignment I have in class

--JohnnelRawson (talk) 21:25, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Responded to talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 14:24, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Feedback help
Hey Shalor can you provide feedback on my article.Johnzy13 (talk)
 * Left feedback on your talk page. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 21:15, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

Time zone change
Hi Shalor this is Alexis from the POLI126AA Class at UCSD. How do I change the timezone settings to UTC time instead of GMT time?Im having difficulty finding local authority and editing the source code?

$wgLocaltimezone = "UTC"; date_default_timezone_set( $wgLocaltimezone ); — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amotonaga (talk • contribs) 22:26, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * 1) Set Default Timezone
 * This is a good question! You can change the time zone via your preference page (Special:Preferences), and going to the appearance tab. Scroll down until you see "Time offset". You will want to select "America/Los Angeles" from the list, as this will change the settings to your time zone. (I'll add this here in case anyone else is curious.) Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 16:20, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Need help request from Lichenhunter (talk)
Hello.

I have moved my article into the mainspace, but when I google it it still says it is a sandbox article. When will it become a wikipedia article?

Thanks,

--Lichenhunter (talk) 23:39, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 17:55, 14 December 2018 (UTC)