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AfD nomination of Nikmat HaTraktor
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Image source and copyright licensing problem with Image:ComsecconsultinglogowoIS.jpg
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Image source and copyright licensing problem with Image:ComsecFinancialRept.Q42007.pdf
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Spam in Comsec Consulting Ltd.
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Comsec Consulting Ltd.
A tag has been placed on Comsec Consulting Ltd., requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article seems to be blatant advertising that only promotes a company, product, group, service or person and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become an encyclopedia article. Please read the general criteria for speedy deletion, particularly item 11, as well as the guidelines on spam.

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Please stop. If you continue to introduce inappropriate pages to Wikipedia, you will be blocked from editing. Eeekster (talk) 10:13, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

This is the last warning you will receive for your disruptive edits. The next time you remove a speedy deletion notice from a page you have created yourself, you will be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Eeekster (talk) 10:15, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

Copyright problems with File:CurrentComsecLogo.gif
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However, for textual content, you may simply consider rewriting the content in your own words. Thank you. Eeekster (talk) 10:30, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

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Conflict of interest
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 * You have also been reported to the conflict of interest noticeboard for your disruptive behavior at deletion review. MuZemike 06:19, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Please step back from the issue
I see that you have a strong objection to the deletion of an article and have taken it to Deletion Review. That's fine, and not an unreasonable thing to do. But the approach you are taking is not likely to be one where you make forward progress.

Wikipedia is unusual. It is a place of strongly held opinions, sometimes expressed hidden behind the venom of militant politeness. It is not a gentle place. And, for good or ill, it works by an approach of consensus.

This means that the whole content is decided by those, you included, who make the content. That's usually good, but can result in difficulties.

I can't judge the text you created in the article for neutrality. I'll take your word for it being neutral, well written and well cited. So may I suggest a quiet approach as follows:


 * 1) ask for the original article to be userfied in your user space.
 * 2) note that when I say "your" I mean the space allocated to you, but over which you have no rights of ownership
 * 3) On your user talk page place and underneath it ask if someone would please look over the userfied article and give you pointers within the manual of style (etc) here to make sure that it can survive if re-created
 * 4) make those edits, and ask that an uninvolved editor then re-creates the article with you acting as advisor. (this is the COI process)

The approach you are using is just going to alienate the people you would prefer to be with you rather than against you.

I'm wholly unbiased here. I have no interest in the article itself except to ensure insofar as it is possible that any eventual article is a good one. I'm afraid you have had a baptism of fire. The best approach now is to allow the flames to cool. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:33, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, I feel like a complete idiot. :-)  Explain it to me like a child.  What does that mean?  I want to do that.  I just don't know how.  Shar1R (talk) 07:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've put a detailed reply on my talk page. With a little work and acting simply I am sure you can solve this.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:03, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

This essay may help
Quite a lot to read and digest, but read this essay as well as the note to you on my talk page:

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The essay is not formal WP advice, it's mine. A couple of folk have said that it has been useful. You may disagree with pleasure :) And if you do, please tell me Fiddle Faddle (talk) 08:09, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Userfied article
It is at User:Shar1R/Comsec temporary page.

I can see why it was deleted, because it does read like a PR document. I'm goig to have a go at it to start to knock it into shape. Please take cues from me, AND ask others to take a look. While we may not be "right" we will be able to make it a useful basis for others to work form and I am confident that it will go back as an article. Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:57, 26 January 2009 (UTC)


 * I have performed quite radical surgery. I think more work is required, most notable the incorporation of the references you provided as inline references within the text.  Read cite web and similar citation templates.
 * What I've tried to do, without total success, is to remove any possibility of being accused of trade puffery in the article. I think it needs to be even more radical and that you need to use the scalpel even more.  The overall objective is a wholly flat, neutral article that tells people who Comsec is, what it does, but NOT that it is awfully good at doing it.  This means that you may not LIKE the article because it does not promote Comsec in any way (well, it does, I was not 100% successful!)
 * My challenge now is that I am standing too close to the article to make it WP acceptable. It requires other eyes than mine.
 * I'm highly sympathetic to the company. I earn my living as a Data Privacy consultant in the UK.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 11:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow, the article looks great thanks. I don't have any problem with the way it is written - it is objective and neutral - as it should be.  I'm not going to be the one to add content, as I've probably been banned from this page, but is there any way to actually add a bit so it's not so stubby, there is plenty more general background that can be provided? Also can I add the references that the User Mgm wrote on the deletion review page? And is there any way to restore the logo? Shar1R (talk) 12:02, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * DO add back all that you think is reasonable. After all this is in a development area of Wikipedia, so fewer rules apply.  When adding back, do be very careful to keep a very bald, flat tone
 * Now, logos. These are copyright, and we should deal with that fully professionally.  First let's wait until the article has been allowed back into the main namespace.  Then we upload it as an organization's logo and deploy it on the page.  but it IS copyright, so you have to create a full fair use rationale for it to be used JUST in that namespace article.  At that time, if in any doubt, ask an admin using helpme and asking the question.  I don't think you want to release your logo into the public domian, just to make fair use of it.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 13:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I've pretty much finished, though there is more to do. I do suggest that you add back that which is addable, but be restrained.  Do see if you can migrate some of the references to inline citations.  Only add citable facts, and cite them.  Then ask an impartial eye for comments.  When those are taken in board then ask using the helpme trick again how to move the article back into the main namespace.  It would probably be best if a user who is not you makes that move.
 * Then let go of the article completely. Ignore it.  That's the hard part.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 13:55, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you so very very much. You have been so helpful.  When I need to go about that process - I will certainly enlist more help.  I really appreciate all of the time you spent on this with me.  You're a Wikipedia Guardian Angel.  :-)  62.0.86.166 (talk) 14:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * It wasn't the hugest amount of time. I don't like to see folk get into a mess, that's all :).  Wikipedia is a harsh place, for all it looks friendly.  Biut it can be fun once you get the trick of it.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 15:50, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

I think we are ready
I've asked that the article be returned to the main namespace. The request is at the Deletion Review. It now depends on others, which is right and proper.

What we need from you is citations to go at the two places where a citation is needed. I suggest that you find them and then let me or another editor know, and we can insert them into the article. This means that you find, we judge, and you do not get accused of COI.

I wonder if you would also email me privately (link on my talk page, left hand margin). Fiddle Faddle (talk) 17:47, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I can't find the link, I even tried the whole Wikipedia contact thing - and I can't see the "email this person" option. There's no link in the toolbox - maybe I don't have the proper permissions?  I'm trying to get the citations requested (there is a problem with the SC Magazine website's Issues Archive - I emailed them). And again thank you.  I can't say it enough. Shar1R (talk) 08:55, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


 * Go to my user or talk page. Left hand margin.  Toolbox.


 * Is there also any coverage eg in an Israeli mainstream paper that can be cited. One editor is still critical of the degree of notability and daily newspaper coverage is useful to counter that.  Fiddle Faddle (talk) 10:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * There is plenty, it's just all in Hebrew. Should I still cite them?  This is all I had in the toolbox on your page.
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 * I don't have a link for Contact User or Email User. Weird.  Sorry.  Shar1R (talk) 11:47, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, I suspect you may have to sign up for WP's email service yourself. if this fails remind me in a week or two.  it will keep.  Possibly in your preferences.  Or you could email my colleague peter dot andrews at complianceandprivacy dot com (I keep my own email silent, but peter's is heavily filtered)
 * The Hebrew language papers... It's a challenge because the majority of the editors here, me included, do not read Hebrew.  I Think the cite web template should handle it, but don't many Israeli papers have English Language editions?  I know Haaretz does, for example.  I would cite a couple anyway. DO use the template.  I'll never be able to sort them out from the Hebrew!Fiddle Faddle (talk) 14:06, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

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