User talk:Sharonroselaw

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Happy editing! Ltwin (talk) 21:54, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

Hi Ltwin! Thank you for the early welcome. I am just learning how to talk with other editors. I see you are an editor of charismatic topics. I have similar topical interest. I appreciate your earlier comments and edits to my Draft:Emanuele Cannistraci. Feel free to keep feedback coming! Sharonroselaw (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2020 (UTC) 06:45, 20 June 2020 (UTC) 14:18, 12 June 2020 (UTC) Sharonrose

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 * Hi Dianna. Diannaa Thank you for the feedback. Still trying to acquaint myself with the Wikipedia standards. Would you please review my draft of Emanuele Cannistraci and give me any feedback relevant to your editing expertise? I have disclosed my conflict of interest. Sharonroselaw (talk) 14:22, 12 June 2020 (UTC) Sharonrose


 * Hello Sharonroselaw. I don't see any copyright issues in the current version of the draft.— Diannaa (talk) 22:08, 12 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you Dianna for reviewing my draft on Emanuele Cannitraci for copyright issues. Diannaa Much appreciated! Sharonroselaw (talk) 10:28, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Wikipedia manual of style
It is probably well worth the time and effort to review the Wikipedia manual of style which sets out the accepted norms for the structure and formatting of articles. For example headings in capital letters are deprecated as are title case headings which use capital letters at the start of each new word. Have a look too at the guidance on images - each image should support a relevant piece of encyclopaedic text, not just dotted around. It is also worth looking at referencing - References for significant issues need to be reliable and, most importantly, independent sources i.e those not associated with the Church or evangelical thinking. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 18:06, 18 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Velella Thank you Velella! I appreciate your input and invite more of same!  I want to get this right. I will review the wiki style manual and revise format and references accordingly.  Many published references, given the nature of this topic, will be evangelical points of view, supporting or opposing.  I will also use Billy Graham's bio page for format and references as a rough template. Please keep the comments coming! I'm learning as I write. Sharonroselaw (talk) 22:14, 19 June 2020 (UTC)


 * I see that you are flagging up to a query and a request. To ensure that the user receives a notification it is simpler to use  as I have done earlier in this sentence and be certain to sign your post with four tides. Without the sign, the notification doesn't work.  Without that, the user may not be aware of your post. The other thing to be aware of is that canvassing is generally frowned on. Probably OK here with a request to a single user but it is best to avoid seeking support from elsewhere, especially in contentious areas such as deletion discussions. In many case there may be a suitable project page such as Project Evangelical Christianity where you can engage with others interested in related topics. There may be a better project, but as a non-Christian, I am not best placed to advise. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk  11:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the feedback. Ltwin had reached out to welcome me and made some early edits to the draft as did others. It's a work in progress. I didn't know how to communicate a substantive reply to their edits. I thought with Ltwin's topical editing experience and subject knowledge interest perhaps he intended to further comment or edit on the draft but my lack of knowledge as to how to respond to him might have been perceived as disinterest in or discouragement of feedback. Thank you again for your Wiki coaching! I'm putting it to good use. Sharonroselaw (talk) 19:41, 20 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Sorry to be bugging your talk page yet again. I have watched the development of the Draft article you are writing with interest. There are still quite several issues which I am sure that you will address. The one issue that concerns me particularly is in the choice of photographs. There are several where family members are present, sometimes many family members. Publishing such images on Wikipedia may have some legal issues unless each and every person has given their explicit consent . See Photographs of identifiable people for more advice. It is usually better to restrict images to the subject of the article or people no longer alive, particularly as the text of your draft does not depend on these images to establish encyclopaedic facts. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 17:34, 23 June 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your welcome feedback. I have permission for the immediate black and white family photos. In addition those photos were published in newspapers and revival notices back in the 50s- 60's. I will delete extended family photos as these do not relate to encyclopedia facts. The subject of this bio is 88 years old, 70 years of which were ministry career. I'm challenged as to what facts to include and what facts to exclude. I see some minister bios with lenghty bios and others with almost no information when I know they had amazing careers. If you have any other thoughts please let me know.  Sharonroselaw (talk) 22:05, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Reliable sources
It is well worth while taking some time to review the sources your are using to support the Draft article you are wiring. WP:GNG emphases that sources must be independent and reliable where they are used to establish notability. Lesser standards may be acceptable for corroborating minor facts. Looking at your draft and taking just the first three references in the opening paragraph I believe that none of the first three references meet the required standard. They are clearly affiliated or from an unreliable source - one individual compiling a list of largest churches for example. When it comes to claims about health and healing, much more stringent standards apply and these can be seen at WP:MEDRS. This requirement applies to "miracle" healing just as it does to any other form of healing. Unless the sources meet the required standards, the article is most unlikely to be accepted, so it is worth getting these sorted early on. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 15:11, 17 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Velella Thank you for the feedback.  I have an independent source citation for a list of global megachurches that includes the two churches I cite. I will add the independent citation that cites a list of megachurches. Also I'll review your references about the healing. The quote is an eye witness account from Eddie Villanueva who is a Filippino politician and preacher who 'testified' (in the Christian meaning) to his eye witness account.  I appreciate all editor input as I want to get this page accurate and correctly sourced.  Sharonroselaw (talk) 14:34, 18 July 2020 (UTC)


 * Great about the other potential sources. Unfortunately issues that relate to personal experiences such as witnessing a healing, doesn't meet Wikipedia's criteria for verification. Even in the Pope had said it it wouldn't qualify unless it had been reported by an independent reliable source. If, for example, the Philippine Daily Inquirer reported the quote, then that would be usable but only as a quote and not as an assertion that the healing actually occurred. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk  14:58, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Velella Got it! Thanks for the clarification. I understand the distinction between an eye witness testimony of observing a healing versus an assertion of a healing reported by a news agency. There are a lot of faith healing evangelists with Wiki pages. I'll check those out. Appreciate your editing guidance. Sharonroselaw (talk) 16:00, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

Velella I have improved my key source citations. The references to healings are quoted from newspapers. I have reduced and provides sources for a reduced mentorship list. I really appreciate your editing coaching.````

Emanuele Cannistraci
You will probably be disappointed that I have moved Emanuele Cannistraci back to Draft:Emanuele Cannistraci. Although you are able to move a Draft directly to Mainspace, this is rarely a good idea as the article may be at risk of deletion. Instead I have tagged it for review which will alert experienced editors to the need to carefully review the article against the notability criteria and decide whether to accept it as an article into Mainspace. It is a very long and complicated article with very many references and is about a subject area where I have no expertise being neither Christian nor American which means that because of European Laws and US Server providers policies, I am unable to see many of the references used. From what I can see, I am unsure about how well the notability criteria are satisfied. It may take some time for the article to be reviewed so please be patient. Please do not move it back to Mainspace yourself. Regards  Velella  Velella Talk 21:31, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Velella Thanks for the feedback. When I submitted the draft I thought it was going to be moved into review like another draft I did but it went live. I am going to add a WikiProject tag for biography of living persons and evangelical. Any help always appreciated! Sharonroselaw (talk) 23:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Emanuele Cannistraci (August 11)
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Robert McClenon (talk) 23:54, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Robert McClenon (talk) Velella Thank you for your feedback. I truly want to get this article in the encyclopedic tone that is consistent with Wiki style. And thanks Robert for teaching me a new word, hagiographic! :) I have made edits that I believe satisfy Wiki criterion. I am prepared to resubmit for review Emanuele Cannistraci.  Sharonroselaw (talk) 21:30, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Emanuele Cannistraci (December 6)
 Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Jeromeenriquez was:

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Jeromeenriquez (talk) 08:43, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Network of Christian Ministries


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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! UnitedStatesian (talk) 20:49, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia. FireflyBot (talk) 11:02, 23 December 2021 (UTC)