User talk:Shawn à Montréal/Archive 6

Nomination of Anibar International Animation Festival for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Anibar International Animation Festival is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Anibar International Animation Festival (3rd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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This page on the doc lacked any balance, potraying it as being universally loved. It was viewed in some quarters as moralistic finger waging tedium. There needed to be something to reflect the critics, alongside those who did indeed enjoy it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.84.220 (talk) 02:30, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Maison Alcan
Hello! Your submission of Maison Alcan at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Secretlondon (talk) 00:28, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Canadian director navboxes
Hi Shawn,

The Norman McLaren navbox looks great! Using a smaller font size for the parentheticals makes sense to me. I would, however, remove the co-directors; navboxes should only link to articles that are within the scope of the main article. Navboxes should also be transcluded on all linked articles, and I don't think that the Norman McLaren navbox should be transcluded on either of the co-director articles.

Happy editing,

Neelix (talk) 18:17, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your comments. Zagal e jo^^^ 06:35, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Maison Alcan
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of My Ancestors Were Rogues and Murderers
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DYK for My Ancestors Were Rogues and Murderers
Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:02, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

New Brunswick Articles without Reliable sources
Thank you for your interest. I started creating these articles and then someone noted that I should have some sort of link so I began including the coordinates for where I found the article on google maps (IE Villages, Roads etc.) That seemed to have been enough until now. The template I took is originally from another article in New Brunswick so I didn't see a problem until now. I have been persistent to include links to other Wikipedia articles for reliable sources. I don't know what else to do. Myself I am just looking on Google maps for most of my information and details.Hogie75 10:54, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Backdoor, Short Film
Hello Shawn in Montreal. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Backdoor, Short Film, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Films are not an A7 category. Thank you. -- Selket Talk 17:03, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I had tagged it so because it was an internet video, but thanks for the notice. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Feel free to prod or AfD, I take no position on notability. -- Selket Talk 17:06, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

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Invitation to wikiFeed
Hi Shawn in Montreal,

I'm part of a team that is researching ways to help Wikipedia editors find interesting content to contribute to Wikipedia. More specifically, we are investigating whether content from news sources can be used to enhance Wikipedia editing. We have created a tool, called wikiFeed, that allows you to specify Twitter and/or RSS feeds from news sources that are interesting to you. wikiFeed then helps you make connections between those feeds and Wikipedia articles. We believe that using this tool may be a lot of fun, and may help you come up with some ideas on how to contribute to Wikipedia in ways that interest you. Please participate! To do so, complete this survey and follow this link to our website. Once you're there, click the "create an account" link to get started.

For more information about wikiFeed, visit our project page. If you have any questions, please feel free to ask via my talk page, or by email at wikifeedcc@gmail.com. We appreciate your time and hope you enjoy playing with wikiFeed!

Thanks! RachulAdmas (talk) 21:38, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I don't use RSS at all, and am generally happy with Google News and Google Books, but I may check this out... Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:00, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the response. I actually had never used RSS (or Twitter really, for that matter) before we started working on this tool either (you don't need to have RSS feeds or a Twitter account already set up to use wikiFeed). Thanks for the feedback, and wikiFeed will be around if you ever decide you have an interest in playing around with it! RachulAdmas (talk) 19:59, 27 July 2012 (UTC)

Factual accuracy in the Thomas Fuller article
It's interesting that you noted the issues with building styles in the Thomas Fuller (architect) article on its talk page. In many articles about Canadian architects, I noticed such inaccuracies emerged when one user (Victoriaedwards) converted the basic vertical lists of works (in order of completion) into horizontal galleries, then vertical lists in a chart format. I've spent a lot of time overhauling these lists, but I haven't been able to get them all done. No one is perfect and this user has made countless good contributions, but she seemed to create a lot of these charts with obvious errors that could have been avoided by looking at the photos of the buildings and individual building articles. Even the "builder" chart heading is problematic, since architects don't necessarily construct the buildings they design. A.Roz (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi. I've locked horns with User:Victoriaedwards before, over what I considered at the time to be rather poorly thought-out work. Once I saw it was her this time, I didn't even consider raising it with her, I must say. I suggest tagging more articles like this that are problematic, and slowly working at it. As you say, she is a net positive overall. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

You swiped my sandbox!
LOL Hi, Shawn. I am delighted to have your attention to the Category:Sexuality pages. They are very highly read, but only scantly edited.

Nonetheless, you took a page (Michael C. Seto) from my sandbox where I was working on it, and pasted it into the main encyclopedia.

I was very close to done, so there isn't much damage done, but I thought I should point this out to you. I included the no-index tag atop the page, but I rarely create new pages, and if there was something else I was supposed to do in order to isolate the page until it was completed, I'm not sure what that is.

— James Cantor (talk) 03:50, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
 * No, I didn't. It was in article space, I assure you. I found it through the WikiProject Canada new article page list, which doesn't include sandboxed articles or user subpages. If you'd properly sandboxed it, it wouldn't have been there, surely. Glad it worked out, though. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:12, 14 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Sorry, my bad. I created the article under James Cantor/MCS instead of my user space, user:James Cantor/MCS.  — James Cantor (talk) 14:34, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for editing the page. I see now that I tend to add way to much information, which I admit is challenging not to do. I never saw it as a bad thing before, but now I see how it can be read as a "sales" point or something. I tend to want to make the article more interesting than what it really needs to be. Thanks again. Causeandedit (talk) 06:42, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Notice of Wikiquette Assistance discussion
Hello, Shawn in Montreal. This message is being sent to inform you that a discussion is taking place at Wikiquette assistance regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. VQuakr (talk) 18:45, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I really have nothing to add at this point, but I'll keep a watch. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:49, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Underpass Park
Underpass Park is not really very close to the Gardiner Expressway and the underpasses that is is under actually relate to the on and off ramps between Adelaide Street East, Richmond Street East and the Don Valley Parkway. I will leave you to amend your edits, since you did voice some doubts. I will try and add some pictures next week. Secondarywaltz (talk) 03:45, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes, I see from the Toronto Star article you're quite right. The Star refers to Don Valley Parkway overpasses towards downtown, whatever those might be. I changed the lead and reverted the reference to it in the Gardiner article. thanks, --Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:08, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Uptown Markham
I was fix it there was some mistake and it not done sorry. 69.158.2.224 (talk) 09:05, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Head of CPP (former)
You have placed a notability template on David F. Denison. Just wondering what Wikipedia policy you were relying on.

Thanks. Ottawahitech (talk) 21:18, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Just WP:BASIC, really. I didn't find independent sources indicating Denison was notable personally. I see since then you've added Star and FP mentions related to an entitlements controversy. I'll remove the tag: I really am not a stickler for these things and if I think there's a decent chance they'd pass BASIC, I generally don't tag. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 21:25, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

The Olive Branch: A Dispute Resolution Newsletter (Issue #1)
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Comments at Articles for deletion/Shavparosnebi
If you have a problem with my deletion noms, feel free to ask me, or if you believe that they are not based within policy, take it to ANI. Gratuitous comments such as the ones made at the AfD do not show that you are AGF. GregJackP  Boomer!   18:47, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I do have a problem with a number of your deletion noms, but it's not a question of good or bad faith. It's a lack of due diligence on your part, imo, before bringing things to AfD. Do your WP:BEFORE work. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:02, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Then ask me about it. You may want to look at the comment I made at   Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/G 57.  I may not have written everything out in the nom, but I assure you that it was checked prior to the nomination.  You are assuming facts without knowing if your supposition is correct or not, and rather than asking about it, you make a conclusion on what I have or have not done.  Ask me, it only takes a few moments, I am happy to answer, and it is much better for all than just assuming that I have not checked out the sources, etc.  Regards,  GregJackP   Boomer!   23:41, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry but I've seen a number of speedies/Afds from you that I thought were wanting. But I am not going to spend my time engaging with you about this on your User talk page. I just have better things to do. I personally think you should spend more time trying to improve articles such as Shavparosnebi rather than delete them -- but that's my own bias, anyway. Again, Shavparosnebi, despite your rationale has an English news ref, containing the English term for group, which yields further news cites. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:54, 9 September 2012 (UTC)
 * You are correct, and had you asked, I would have responded that I made a mistake that I didn't realize until you pointed it out. The first was in the foreign language and I just plugged the url for the second into the translator without checking.  As far as trying to improve things, I am trying to improve the project, not each and every article.  If, during my checks prior to nominating, I find an article worth saving, I do what I can to do so.  In most cases the articles I nominate are not-worthy and the best way to improve the project is to get rid of them.  Regards,  GregJackP   Boomer!   01:02, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Log homes or houses
Hi Shawn

Just a quick note to say that I have opposed your nomination for speedy renaming of Category:Log homes. It may be a good idea, but I think it is best examined in a full discussion at WP:CFD.

Best wishes -- Brown HairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 02:13, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yes, I'll probably nom it when the speedy notes comes down. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

re: Aviation films overcategorization
A year already? Wow! Thanks for the heads-up.  Lugnuts  And the horse 09:13, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Template:Did you know nominations/Downtown Community House
It's been a while since you posted (since September 26, to be exact), and the DYK nomination is stuck in limbo. Can you please give a progress report on this? Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 00:43, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

List of Banned Films Canada
Hi Shawn,

New to this, so not sure if I am doing this correctly...you added Not a Love Story to the article List of Banned Films for Canada. It is persistent a myth that this film was banned, and the ref does not appear to mention the ban. I've updated the OFRB article, but did not want to remove your addition without checking with you. thoughts? thanks, Trcovell (talk) 00:29, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks, yes, it was labelled foreign propaganda by the US Justice Dept., but not actually "banned," I suppose. So if you don't believe it belongs on the list, please do remove it. thanks for asking, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:38, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated
Hi, I'm Mrt3366. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Kookaburra Tours & Charters, and have un-reviewed it again. If you've got any questions, please ask me on my talk page. Thanks, Mrt3366

Frankenstorm merge request
I think that should go on Talk:Hurricane Sandy per the merge template...but I didn't want to move your text arbitrarily. Feel free to move the whole thing, including my reply, and point the discussion over there. (Should be reasonable to move the unsigned IP user's opening comments as well, leaving a link to the target page.) – 2001:db8:: (rfc &#124; diff) 03:45, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

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Chretien-Martin
Your CSD just went to me because I'd moved the page... which leads to the more important question... what do we do? Should we cancel the first CSD and nominate the second? (Though I have to look at the target page to be sure I agree with CSD.) Or should we redirect as an alternative to A10? — Francophonie&#38;Androphilie  (Je vous invite à me parler ) 02:55, 18 November 2012 (UTC)

HA'Aki
I deleted it because you as the author requested it be deleted, but I had misgivings, I thought it was a reasonable stub article. Want me to restore it to your user space for future expansion? ~Amatulić (talk) 00:14, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks but I just don't see any further reliable sources cropping up that would establish notability. The Ars Technica award was for digital effects, not best film: so I just don't see this film ever meeting WP:NOTFILM, including, specifically, NOTFILM. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:28, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * OK. I, too, once created an article about a little known film (Too Tough to Care), but I managed to find sufficient sources to suggest notability (I just wish I could find a way to de-orphan it).
 * I thought that might be the case here, but if you couldn't find other sources, then I guess you're right about not restoring it. ~Amatulić (talk) 01:19, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Btw, I see there's an article on Sid Davis. I'm sure you could work in a referenced mention that his company distributed Too Tough to Care, de-orphaning the article. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:22, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Ah, thank you. I didn't know the article on Sid Davis existed (and it's a mess, too). I have worked in a mention. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:43, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

Hata clan
Hello Shawn, I see that you provided useful supplemental information on the genetics reference that I posted on the article at issue, which I had lifted from a related article.

There is a group of people that seem intent on fostering believability in these false doctrines, and the genetics reference has been removed again.

I have posted another genetics reference on the Talk page, and will be supplementing that later, as I have now finished reading it.

What I'm interested in doing is generating ideas as to how to frame the genetics sources in a manner that is consistent with Wiki policy, as the opponents are making seemingly ludicrous claims that the references are inapplicable.--Ubikwit (talk) 09:09, 26 November 2012 (UTC)Ubikwit
 * I don't understand the dispute, since you're all in agreement that the Hata aren't genetically Jewish. and the book cite you added simply backs that up. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:42, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Air Canada enRoute Film Festival - Let's Make Lemonade
Hi Shawn, thanks for your work on the Air Canada enRoute Film Festival. A recent winner of the festival, Let's Make Lemonade is having a deletion discussion - perhaps you could add some support on that article? Thanks. Yohowithrum (talk) 04:04, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:Documentary films by music genre
Category:Documentary films by music genre, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:51, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Talkback
You might like to look at this. Peridon (talk) 19:00, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yes, even if it turns out not to be a hoax, which I still think it is, then there's the small matter that not a single reference, even primary, seems to exist for it. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)

Category:Film directors by city
Great, thanks. I added ; if I get around to creating more I'll funnel 'em in there. -- Ser Amantio di Nicolao Che dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 20:43, 14 December 2012 (UTC)

Alice Guy Blaché
About the place of her death, Please see view 91 here : http://archives.cg94.fr/consultation/eta/img-viewer/etat-civil/94067/1MI_002595_01/viewer.html. It is a marginal mention in her birth certificate from the city of Saint-Mandé, where she was born — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pierregil83 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Replied at Talk:Alice Guy-Blaché. merci, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)

David McConaghie
Although I didn't agree with you, I appreciated your interest in this topic after experiencing some frustration with one other editor's constant objections to absolutely any mention of the subject. Could I ask you to revisit the AfD page when you have a moment, and think about whether the added material, and talk page discussion, changes your mind about whether the whole article should be deleted? Even if you're still of the same view, I'd still be grateful for any further thoughts you might want to contribute. Thanks. Brocach (talk) 20:00, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * No. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:19, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
 * That said, I do not wish this comment removed. The revert as vandalism was unintentional, however. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:04, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

RE:Nonexistent templates
Sorry i didn't kwon that I can creat templates as subpages. I'm going to rename them all. — Preceding unsigned comment added by D'Geist (talk • contribs) 20:34, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

RE:Nonexistent templates
Ok, i don't get it, do you now how i can build templates in subpages, which apear in tabels? — Preceding unsigned comment added by D'Geist (talk • contribs) 21:17, 27 December 2012 (UTC)

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Canadian Screen Awards
Twelve full hours after the nominations were released. Still not done updating the Wikipedia article. Nyyyyyaaaaarrrgggghhhhhhh!!!!! Bearcat (talk) 05:32, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * You da man. Wherever there is Canadian film, Bearcat is not far away. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:55, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, ya know, I gotta step in before my archnemesis Jackalope gets all the credit and glory — or something — but it can still be a pretty thankless task sometimes. Seriously, though: at least in the particular case of the Toronto Film Critics Awards, every article that pertains to 2005 or before was created in January 2006 with the "year at the end" title format, which means they've been lingering like that for seven years already. They probably should be moved to "year in front" format instead, in accordance with Wikipedia conventions around the titling of other similar topics, but rightly or wrongly they just haven't been yet. The more recent ones are clearly just editors who may or may not be familiar with broader Wikipedia conventions maintaining the existing naming pattern in good faith, rather than anybody being deliberately obtuse. I couldn't speak to whether it's happening in other cases as well, but even if it is it would seem to me that it's nothing more than that eternal Wikipedia dilemma: our rules and conventions have evolved over time, but we still regularly catch all kinds of cases where older content still hasn't been updated accordingly (as well as all kinds of cases where people perpetuate the error by following the old outdated model instead of the new one.) Bearcat (talk) 01:57, 19 January 2013 (UTC)

Meredith House
Hi Shawn, happy 2013! Thank you for your message re Lady Meredith House. I must admit, I would have felt better had you messaged me before changing the picture again (this surely perpetuates a 'war' does it not?!) to say something along the lines of 'we notice you are very keen on the picture you originally posted', and then followed that with 'we prefer the better quality image and feel it ought to be changed, please state your case' etc.

My feeling is that it is a picture that was not rejected for poor quality when it was uploaded and therefore it ought not to be treated any differently to any of it's counterparts. The opening photograph of Ravenscrag in the GSM article hardly accentuates the house and it;'s masonry - but it is nostalgic, and that is the same feeling I was trying to convey with my choice of picture, rather than the stark stack of bricks on tarmac.

I fully appreciate that if this was the only photgraphic reference/image of the house on wikipedia, and it did not have it's own article, then my case would carry little weight. But, the other editor in question created it's own page. Yes, I edited the words on this article as much of the original information was incorrect, but no, I did not dream to alter the picture he/she had chosen as I would view it as only polite that the pictures available on wiki commons remain the personal choice of the creator. Of course wikipedia is free to be edited by all and anyone, but surely the focus is on the written/factual content, rather than conflicting personal artistic tastes?

I admit that I was remiss in not starting the caption below the original picture with a direct link to 'Lady Meredith House'. In my mind, I would have thought it common sense that if the reader of the GSM article was interested by the house and yet disappointed by the quality of the picture chosen in that article; with one obvious click below, they would be taken straight to the other editors specific article on the house with as many close up, detailed, quality pictures as they like - surely leaving the reader satisfied?

I am fully aware and in absolute support of wikipedia's ethos: No one person or group 'owns' the article. Our disagreement is not over expert opinion on the subject matter such as a date, name, or philosophy; this is merely one picture that was deemed acceptable to be uploaded and is independent to others on it's own subject page.

I look forward to your and/or the other editors feedback. Best wishes, Parsica (talk) 22:54, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

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Inexplicable removal
Re: this I don't understand why you would remove this category--it certainly seems germane. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:28, 4 February 2013 (UTC) FORGET IT. —Justin ( koavf ) ❤T☮C☺M☯ 03:31, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's WP:DIFFUSE. I should have indicated that in the edit summary. Distracted watching Superbowl, sorry. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:34, 4 February 2013 (UTC)

Main Deli Steak House pic
Hi, noticed that you do a lot of Montreal articles too. As such, I was wondering if you want to help out with the Main deli article and whether you have a picture of their place, preferably one before they changed their sign to the new smaller one. Jeanpetr (talk) 22:58, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Bonjour Jean. No, I'm sorry, I haven't taken any images in years. I do at times patrol the Commons looking for Montreal-related images (or other things that need fixing) though. If I see a Main Steakhouse image, I'll be happy to add it. I'll put a watch on your article, too. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:29, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * I've added a couple more wiki-links to the article, for now. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:42, 5 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks good, Thanks! Jeanpetr (talk) 22:01, 7 February 2013 (UTC)

Lands reserved for indigenous peoples
I closed Categories for discussion/Log/2013 January 19 as "keep but clarify", so I'm dropping a line to a few of the participants to ask your help to do that. See also Category talk:Lands reserved for indigenous peoples. – Fayenatic  L ondon 14:01, 13 February 2013 (UTC)

Mzoli
Mzoli's. -- SarekOfVulcan (talk) 18:08, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Just in case Sarek's oracular comment is unclear...
 * Way back in the mists of time, Jimbo created this article. Some doubted its notability, so it went to AfD, and there were some slightly snarky comments at AfD. Just a normal day on en.wikipedia really. Jaranda !voted delete, then Jimbo voted keep with a slight dig at the people who'd said delete, then Jaranda quit. Secret/Jaranda has in the past said he'd misused admin tools around this case but I don't know which tool was misused or where. I don't think there's much to be gained from digging into the details of the oldest drama, though. bobrayner (talk) 18:52, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. God, this is all too inside baseball for me. Thanks. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:55, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, he [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ALog&type=delete&user=&page=Mzoli%27s+Meats&year=&month=-1&tagfilter=&hide_patrol_log=1&hide_review_log=1 deleted the article]; I'm only pointing this out because it's a bit hard to find. Not worth fussing over, though, IMO. Graham 87 15:15, 16 February 2013 (UTC)

Auto show photos
Regarding your comments in this thread: I checked a few photos; they were taken with a smartphone. The sensor ISO values recorded in the photos are pretty low and so it seems the camera software compensated by brightening the photos, which is what results in their white, foggy look. isaacl (talk) 03:18, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah. I should have checked for that. thank you, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:35, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Regarding your followup comments, regardless of the reason, I'd still agree the photos aren't of the best quality (though the one of the abandoned store in Dorval is still worse). isaacl (talk) 04:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, for sure. Wikipedia Takes Montreal had the misfortune to take place last summer during one of the worst downpours in memory. The Commons was flooded -- pun intended -- with a number of poor quality images, taken by some brave souls during a veritable monsoon. I had some of the worst case photos deleted but came away from the process with an appreciation of just how poor an image has to be to be of 'no educational use.' So I think most of his car show images will remain, though I may be wrong. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:52, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes, the ones I looked at were still OK for purposes of identifying the cars in question. isaacl (talk) 04:56, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

Fire-related categories
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Lots of small unpopulated New Brunswick categories
Hi Shawn, I need your help on those New Brunswick categories, A user by the name of User:Hogie75 has made lots of new categories of New Brunswick. These New Brunswick categories are very small and the categories are only one article and unpopulated. Could you talk to User:Hogie75 on possibly creating new categories that are small categories,, the categories User:Hogie75 has challenged a contested deletion on all of the small New Brunswick categories for categories that are too small. User:Hogie75 has made the message here. Category talk:Tracadie-Sheila. If you read my message talk to the User:Hogie75 on contesting deletion on small NB categories. Okay? Thanks for all your help. Steam5 (talk) 19:55, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Ok well I guess I have to talk through you instead of Steam5 as he told me not to talk to him for some reason. Anyway, all I was trying to do was understand why we couldn't have Towns that had people, buildings, roads etc that run through them included in this category. I have seen this for some towns in Canada and The United states. I am not talking about full categories of Buildings and Structures categories..etc. Just a place to put people who live there maybe. Also Why the speedy deletion, I am not the only one who has done this for towns in New Brunswick. Steam5 has even made some, IE: Shediac, New Brunswick Category. Anyway if There is really a need for speedy deletion of these categories for whatever reason, I will respect this, but I think some discussion would not hurt. :) Thanks for listening Shawn.  Not trying to start anything.  Thanks man20:20, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Categories with only one or two articles are not valid and are regularly put up for a Speedy CfD.Skookum1 (talk) 02:07, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Yea it looks like it needs 5-10 articles to create it. Sorry guys.02:11, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

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Unclaimed
Shawn, I hope you'll come back to Unclaimed. I was not trying to pick a fight; I was just wanting to lay out the facts. Since today is the day of the screening, we'll see more coverage. I found this that talks about DNA testing and the possibility of going through with it (though I'm not clear about why NLF's report states DNA testing took place). I think this is bound to be a pretty interesting topic for readers as the film gets more well-known, so I hope we can collaborate on expanding a good article for them. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 13:25, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * No fight at all! In fact, I really welcome each time I see your name pop up in a discussion, I know I can count on your level-headedness and good humour. In brief, I just think you were right and I was quite wrong: I had a knee-jerk reaction to Mindme adding another blog or social media ref, but didn't consider the issue carefully. My stepping back was just to resist an OWNish instinct on my part, not any ill feelings towards your intervention -- quite the contrary! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:30, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * I really do not think you need to worry about WP:OWN. :) You are cognizant of that and are able to engage in discussion. I'm hoping later today to work in the above reference with others since I think we need to have a good encyclopedic section consolidating the details about DNA testing, and hopefully some reviews today of the documentary itself too. I hope you'll join me in that! Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 13:33, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Sure, if you like. You've been of help on so many film articles I've had a hand in, so if you like, I'll keep a watch on Unclaimed and add my two cents. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:35, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Shawn, I created a "Proof of identity" section per MOS:FILM that cites a policy passage: "Try to achieve a more neutral text by folding debates into the narrative." I think this is better than "Criticism", but I'm still wondering if there could be a better section heading to define the whole discussion in neutral terms. Erik (talk &#124; contribs) 15:40, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Makes sense to me. I don't have any useful insights on that point. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:09, 30 April 2013 (UTC)

Question...
Why is this a redlink? Far as I can tell, it really shouldn't be. — The Potato Hose 23:44, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * That's very flattering. But it's red because I have no interest in adminship, nor do I really have the knowledge of policy and frankly temperament for the task! all the best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:47, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * 'Kay. — The Potato Hose 01:22, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Resist, resist..... Mangoe (talk) 01:16, 21 May 2013 (UTC)
 * With pleasure. Though I have the greatest respect for 'em. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 02:50, 21 May 2013 (UTC)

Qworty
Shawn, I'm determined not to edit the Robert Clark Young entry myself, even though my involvement with him doesn't come close to the Wikipedia definition of COI - I've simply had too many appalling encounters with him here, and would rather keep some distance (so that I don't end up engaging in Qworty-like behavior). Still, I'm going to recommend and discuss edits. Can you look at my proposal for the lede on the article's talk page, and perhaps edit the entry to include it, if you think it's appropriate? NaymanNoland (talk) 22:10, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Do you mind helping me with the Qworty Cleanup Project? I really have no idea how to set this up. I've started the page here, but I don't know if I'm going about it the right way: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:NaymanNoland/Qworty_Clean-up_Project&rcid=580503890 NaymanNoland (talk) 22:51, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I'm not myself if this is the way to go about it. Let's go slow and see what the consensus is. From what I've seen, a lot of clean up work has been done, fwiw. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:55, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. It's sitting there. Let's see what happens. NaymanNoland (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2013 (UTC)

When templates trick you, you need to trick the templates
Hello Shawn! To fix this, add '1=' before the whole thing, otherwise the template will use the value "52908" for the parameter with the name "http://onf-nfb.gc.ca/en/our-collection/?idfilm" (due to the equals sign in the url). Cheers, jonkerz ♠talk 15:47, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much. I don't think I've ever had this problem before. It must be something about this particular URL that causes this. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:05, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

inre Articles for deletion/Freedom Flotilla (film)
Found a suitable target. See AFD.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 00:09, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * And please see Feature length and Feature film. At 56 minutes in length, it qualifies as a "feature" film according to the rules of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:13, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * It's a TV broadcast hour from what I can see, regardless of what an AMPAS rule might say. But okay. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
 * AMPAS will never be considering this foreign film for an Oscar (chuckle). But with its verifiability through limited coverage, and even with the the thing not having the notability for a separate article, I simply thought we could at least direct readers to the article on the event... one of which repercussions was the film... and where they would learn a lot more on the topic of the raid. Thank you for your thoughts.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:18, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

I think it is appropriate because it's a sample of humour,which Andy and readers would appreciate. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.37.103.78 (talk) 18:56, 24 June 2013 (UTC)

Bill Lishman's underground house
Hello!

I notice you've purged all content from my little stub on Bill Lishman's underground house. The reason why I want to keep this page separate from the main Bill Lishman article is that there would certainly be some people interested in this particular project in a way different from other Lishman's initiatives. (There are monographs written on such original individualized buildings, often with fantastic designs, which exist all over the world.) The stub can hopefully eventually be expanded into a full-fledged article with appropriate material. If you kill this baby in its craddle, none of that will happen. Hope you understand. Cheers! InMemoriamLuangPu (talk) 06:33, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * yes, I'm sorry, but I think keeping it together aids navigation and helps our readers. I've kept a redirect and left it categorized, as well. I'd suggest you see if editors do wish to expand the dedicated section in the main bio article and then do a content fork, if needed. But I won't intervene further. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * I'll actually try to expand it myself. I guess I just have a combination of interest in natural sciences and off-beat architecture, so I came to Bill Lishman's page via his work on bird migration and then saw the info on his house (I've never seen this house described from an artistic prospective in the literature or web-pages dealing with this type of constructions). So I think it's good to keep the page separate and try to collect some relevant info there (it seems unlikely that the architecture-oriented crowd will join in editing the main Bill Lishman page). Thanks for your understanding! InMemoriamLuangPu (talk) 14:44, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Okay. If you're expanding it yourself, then my redirect was much too hasty, sorry. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * In fact, I started with a (categorized) redirect, precisely of the form you created. But I was not allowed to link that from Bill Lishman's page on the grounds that it's a "pointless self-reference". Without such linking, nobody would have found my stub anyway... so I did a little upgrade. Thanks for adding a more specific stub tag, by the way. InMemoriamLuangPu (talk) 03:20, 10 July 2013 (UTC)

Re: SOTI Inc. Page Deletion
Hi Shawn in Montreal,

Thanks for your review of the SOTI Inc. page I've created.

I have tried to keep the content very factual and non-promotional, as my goal is not to create an advertisement on Wikipedia, but instead a basic company page. Could you let me know what you saw as advertorial? I will revise it immediately.

Today (7/9), I edited the content to remove what another user pointed out may sound promotional. I hope this assists keeping the page up.

I have tried following the same format as similar companies on the site: MobileIron and AirWatch.

Regarding significant articles, I want to provide the below coverage of SOTI from well respected journalists and publications. These articles are not reprinted press releases, and have editors tied to them.

The references in the page itself are not reprints of a press release. The InformationWeek piece is authored by a well respected journalist: Larry Seltzer

In addition, SOTI was the top scorer in a Network World review of Mobile Device Management vendors, available here: Network World - Top tools for BYOD management

I'd like to provide additional editorial features on the company and its solutions:

InformationWeek Education - Smartphones Hit Schools, MDM Vendors Don Thinking Caps

CMSwire - SOTI Releases MobiControl V10 to Manage Personal Devices in the Enterprise

eWeek - Soti Unveils MDM Platform MobiControl V10

Mobile Fanpage - Italian review of SOTI solution

Computing Canada - Last Year, We All Talked About a BYOD Problem, It's Time That We Acknowledge That Our Biggest Mobile Problems Are Now Under Control

InformationWeek BYTE - BYOD Tablets, Smartphones: About To 'Disrupt' The Classroom?

THE Journal - Westbury School District Deploys Mobile Device Management System

As time goes on, I'd like to expand the page to include more products, awards won, and additional information- but I wanted to start with a simple upload first.

I'd appreciate any help you can provide. Thank you!

Msalmassian (talk)

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User:Bull-Doser
Hello Shawn. You are familair with this user. He is currently socking at the moment with the account User:DroleDesHits as proven on this SPI case Sockpuppet_investigations/Bull-Doser.

The reason I'm letting you about this is because I've semi-retired from Wikipedia back in March 2013 but broke out my retirement today so that I could filled the SPI report. But I'm going back to retirement today but this time completely and will exerce my right to vanish. There will probably be other sock-puppetry attempts by Bull-Doser in the future and I won't be around to see. If you have the time do regularly check pages such as CKMF-FM and if you see any suspicious activity, do not hesitate to report the socks to SPI. Take care. Farine (talk) 13:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Not sure how often I'll be checking but I will try to keep my eyes open. Sorry to hear that you're vanishing but of course there many ways one can spend one's online time, and I'm sure you've found something more enjoyable to engage with. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Category:James Bogardus buildings
Sorry, I'll wait longer next time for the cat to be created before removing. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:26, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Marina World
I appreciate your contributions to Wikipedia, but I have concerns with some of your recent edits to the article, Marina World. This article needs to be deleted by some sort of means, and the reasons for your reversion of my edits are unclear. The article does not meet multiple Wikipedia guidelines, one of them is Notability. The body of the article is only a sentence long, and I am quite sure that the article is not meeting the content guidelines as well. I will leave my edits reverted until we reach an agreement. Carwile2 (talk) 02:47, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Hello. The length of the article is irrelevant, and is sufficient to identify to subject of the article. As for WP:N, it is my belief, based in a Google News archive search in English, and the likelihood of additional Arabic refs, that it would pass an WP:Afd. But by all means, take it there, if you feel so strongly. The article cannot be re-speedied nor re-PRODded and Afd is the sole course open to you now. You needn't wait for my agreement on the matter -- I don't agree -- but don't let that delay you, if you wish to proceed. best, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:14, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Jeff Jensen
Do you think there should be a different Category: section for Eisner Award winner authors and artists to keep the Eisner Award winner Category (listing the works that have won the award) from getting cluttered? Hotspur23 (talk) 15:28, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
 * It does look like there's room for more subcategories, yes. But in the case of Jensen it seemed like he wrote a reality-based comic that won the Eisner for best work of that type, but Jensen himself wasn't named in the award? Or was he? That's my biggest concern, here. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:42, 3 September 2013 (UTC)

Breil
Breil is important company: why did delete my related article? In Italian there is this article!--Pagoprima (talk) 14:37, 4 September 2013 (UTC) Canadian friend, other editor, who added tag for deletion, does not understand anything regarding watches because Binda group is like Richemont and Breil is like Société Cartier; I explain: Breil is brand but Breil Milano and Breil Tribe are lines of this brand!!!! I request restoration of my stub Breil for further my development of related article: later I will start other articles regarding companies of Binda. Give me a manner for to improve this project regarding watches; good luck!--Pagoprima (talk) 14:54, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I simply redirected it to the main article Binda Group; it was another editor who tagged it for deletion. By all means, feel free to expand the Binda Group short article with info on the Breil lines, keeping in mind that all statements must be backed up by references to WP:Reliable sources. happy editing! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:31, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Why are you so singularly focused on writing about this -- and only this -- watch brand. Since you joined wikipedia, all you've done is write about Breil. Why? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:59, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Breil (company) is only a point of translation's start by Italian to English and viceversa for many articles: honestly I will explain situation to some admins--Pagoprima (talk) 16:06, 28 September 2013 (UTC)

Montevideo to Montreal
Many greetings from the other side of the world. Glad to see you are still active in films. Cheers. Hoverfish Talk 01:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Oh, hi! Do I remember correctly that you'd taken a rather long wikibreak...? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:51, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

I have left Films long time ago, if this is what you mean, but then I started on Uruguay topics and then on Greek museums. I never really took a complete break, but there are periods I have very little time to contribute. Right now I am down to 1157 most active, while I see that you have reached 404! Wow, Congrats! Hoverfish Talk 00:45, 10 September 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rudaw Media Network


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 * CSD A7: This is an article about an organization, but the article does not indicate why its subject is important or significant. Before contesting this deletion, please cite multiple independent sources which include significant coverage discussing the organization. Do not cite http://www.rudaw.net/ please. See also WP:42.

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Cheers! &mdash;Unforgettableid (talk) 05:18, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the note. I've declined the PROD as I believe a full deletion discussion would be preferable, based on a Google News archive search for this entity. Question: have you done a Google News archive search? Just curious. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 12:09, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

Apologies
I want to say that I am sorry over my behavior last week towards you. You were clearly only attempting to improve Wikipedia by addressing my CSD, and I should've known that and reacted differently... I too love Wikipedia, and am always attempting to improve it. Anywho, I just wanted to apologize to you. Thank you for your time. EzPz (talk) 21:34, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Accepted. I don't usually leave messages on the User talk pages of editors whose speedy deletions I have declined and I really was trying to offer helpful advice, as I have quite a few years of experience at CSD. Sorry that was misinterpreted but these things happen. All the very best and happy editing! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:31, 12 September 2013 (UTC)

About the Lambda (olive oil) page
Hi, big thanks for the helpful suggestions, I'm not very experienced with Wikipedia and your effort really helps.

However: 1. regarding the use of references: I find it really difficult to do a more thorough search than the company itself in order to find references that are not on the product's site (speironcompany.com), so how can I avoid to reference the same pages as the pop-ups there? 2. how to "unorphan" the page: maybe adding a link in Lambda under the "Lower-case letter λ" heading but I fear it would be deemed inappropriate / promotional. I would not like to add a link in the Olive oil page as no other products are linked from there. Any ideas you may have regarding the "orphan page" issue are welcome. Thank you for your time! Tassosl (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 09:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

R.H.Penton artist
Thank you Shawn in Montreal for supporting my first attempt at an entry. I have been so pleased to see some improving edits to it. JimBleak has also been very helpful and I have managed to do two of my aims, altho somewhat clumsily. ie 1. to start up the RHP article and 2. to download a picture by RHP (The Pamir sails from Wapping)into the excellent Pamir (ship)article and also into my RHP piece. Both sitting strangely in a little box at the bottom - but hopefully some expert will decide whether or not to use them. Thanks again - hoping that RHP will remain on wiki - with help.Tynefield (talk) 08:58, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

lambda, AfDs generally
I think it's a little presumptuous to assert I misunderstand notability. I think that where articles, like lambda, are edited in whole or largely by promotional or SPA editors, then the bar is raised in my mind for notability; if the subject were truly notable, why would it only be created/edited by promotional editors? The fact that it is, actually speaks against its notability, I would say, because noone unconnected with the product is editing it. has offered a similar rationale on their talk page. -- [ UseTheCommandLine  ~/ talk  ]# &#9604; 18:29, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
 * I also think there's enough interpretive room in "substantial" and "independent" for this position. -- [ UseTheCommandLine  ~/ talk  ]# &#9604; 18:31, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

today production duo article
Thank you so much for your constructive on the article, Shawn. I totally forgot about that article and it could very well save the page from deletion.

Much appreciated! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinoheat (talk • contribs) 18:44, 21 September 2013 (UTC)

My AWB error
Thanks for that, I have corrected those, both mistakes were hand corrections so thanks for those. Waacstats (talk) 19:56, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for help with Parker Liautaud
Your guidance regarding WP:PEA and WP:TONE is much appreciated. I am still making edits but I do hope you will have another look at the article once these are completed, as I would welcome removal of the maintenance tags. If you are willing, I do have one question: I do not see in the History evidence of the "promotional" language you removed. Would you be willing to point me toward that, please? Schneile (talk) 11:44, 9 October 2013 (UTC)schneile
 * I don't recall removing any text, or claiming that I had. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 11:54, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hi again. The exact words were "I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Parker Liautaud." I took that to mean you removed one or more of my recent contributions.Schneile (talk) 13:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)schneile
 * Also, to your question, "Who is we?", I refer to myself and an IP attorney whom I've consulted for advice. However, we are working on obtaining appropriate license credentials, so this request can wait until we obtain same.Schneile (talk) 13:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)schneile

Girl 27 and dance category
Hello - I have re-added Girl 27 to Category:Documentary films about dance, and made some comments on that article's talk page. Let me know if you have any comments on this. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 01:52, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

Culture of Edmundston category nominated at CFD
Hi Shawn, I have nominated Category:Culture of Edmundston for deletion. The rest of the Edmundston related categories are good. The other two Edmundston articles Brayon and Foire Brayonne. That's not enough in one small category per WP:SMALLCAT. For an example, The Roman Catholic Diocese of Edmundston article it's just an organization, it should put the Category:Organization based in New Brunswick and the city category that's Category:Edmundston, no need to add the Culture of Edmundston category that's way too specific. To read my nominator's reationale, there's the link to today's CFD. Categories_for_discussion/Log/2013_November_3 If you want to join in the discussion. Talk to you later and I will see you at CFD. Steam5 (talk) 04:42, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

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 * Thank you and the same to you! Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:17, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

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touche
"hell, yes"! LOL Dloh cierekim  17:06, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
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MSO of India
I have improved the article and your input may be relevant there on discussion.Msoamu (talk) 11:29, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * User:Msoamu, this is canvassing. MezzoMezzo (talk) 04:16, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

Reclaiming the Blade
Reclaiming the Blade is about the sword.

It's history, martial arts, military history, physics, sociology, culture... Yes it talks a lot about swords in movies (far too much, IMO. Even if you talk about swords in media/culture, movies are only one medium among many), but that is only part of it.

To call the documentary an "art documentary", is to look at it in a far too narrow-minded manner. It is to look at one aspect of it, while ignoring the many other, very significant, aspects.--ZarlanTheGreen (talk) 06:56, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Category:Propaganda in fiction
Why did you revert the Deletion-based edits regarding this category? :/ —017Bluefield (talk) 19:51, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Because I felt my deletion was too hasty. There was a popcat tag on the category and I should give time to populate it. As you can tell by my deleted CfD, I felt the two videogames didn't belong. But there are surely other non-novel works about propaganda that might. The Orwell novels, for one, have been adapted. thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:06, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I did it again! This CfD I will let run the course, I assure you. Thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:25, 24 January 2014 (UTC)

editing arthur lipsett page
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A Winter of Cyclists Film Tone Notice
Hi Shawn in Montreal. I have updated the details on the listing for the film A Winter of Cyclists at the link below based on the notice at the page: "This article's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Winter_of_Cyclists

Can I remove the tone tag? Or is this something you should review and do?

Mprender (talk) 17:32, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

After looking at the cleanup process page, it appears I should remove the tone tag and let you know that know this has happened. Thanks for your input on style. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mprender (talk • contribs) 18:06, 2 February 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Shawn in Montreal
Warm wishes from Santa Barbara.

I noticed that you raised a question with respect to my Wikipedia page which has recently been deleted. Please be aware of the fact that no where have I indicated or even used the words Legion d'Honneur. Nor would I dare. In 1994 I was named a Chevalier by the l'Ordre Des Coteaux De Champagne. If you wish I am happy to scan a copy of the medal and the official decree and send to you.

Most sincerely, William Tomicki

wtomicki@aol.com — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freddymcgough (talk • contribs) 14:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

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 * Yep, I'm working on it now, thanks. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 19:14, 22 February 2014 (UTC)

Vlad Feier
Hello Shawn, As the creator of the article Vlad Feier I would like to answer very quick to some of your concerns. For sure this is not a "very spammy bio article" from the following reasons: this person is real person, it is a director nominated in Cannes in 2011, it is a person that can easily can be checked on IMDB, articles in newspapers or magazines. As interviews there is just one from realTVfilms made during the Cannes Film Festival. Other interviews I haven't found with him. I just found articles. Articles written by big newspapers or some of them small magazines. I found articles from Romania, some of them from Mexico, Chile and US. This are not just small articles in unknown publications. As well the reason why I wrote this article is because this person inspired me to start and develop my passion for film after I had the chance to listen his speech in 2011 at Cannes. As a beginner on Wikipedia for sure I admit this article has room to be improved but not to be deleted. And as well we should be more open to improve articles than delete them. For sure there are articles that doesn't belong on Wikipedia but some of them need just improvements. Thank you.

Creative Talent Bureau
Dear Shawn, IMDB it's the most reliable source when it comes to film. A Variety article can be payed and doesn't mean it's true. A Washington Post article can be payed and again the fact it is there doesn't have any legitimacy. But when IMDB accepts a projects after 2 weeks from submission means that project that is listed on IMD (actors, directors, production companies etc) means that those are legit. Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexander Botar (talk • contribs) 03:09, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * That's utter nonsense. You really do need to read WP:RS and WP:N. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:11, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
 * First of all maybe it's a nonsense for you but maybe make sense for other people. So references like IMDB, international film festivals or publications from other countries are not considered to be reliable sources or sufficient? And I would appreciate the help to create a good article instead of just a proposal to be delete. And yes I did read WP:RS and WP:N. Alexander Botar (talk) 10:06, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

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Tag Dial H-I-S-T-O-R-Y
Hello Shawn in Montreal,

You have placed a tag on my dial H-I-S-T-O-R-Y article. Since then a lot of changes have been made. Do you think this tag could be removed? If not, could you point out any problem-sentences?

Thanks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dial_H-I-S-T-O-R-Y Johannesdebruycker (talk) 12:01, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Genie Awards
Given that we often cross paths on Canadian film articles, I wanted to ask if you'd be willing to participate in a cleanup project to get our Genie Award articles spruced up to contemporary Wikipedia standards. The articles have a lot of problems — missing information, 2005-vintage formatting, lack of referencing, etc. — and really need a concerted effort to get them up to scratch; I've already started working on them to an extent, but it's a big job that I can't really handle all by myself.

I've written up a basic overview of what needs to be done at Canadian Wikipedians' notice board/Genies cleanup project, and I've tried drumming up some volunteers at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film/Film awards task force. What I'd like, in particular, is to have two or three or four people concentrate mainly on fixing the formatting and the missing information, so that I can dedicate my attention to pulling actual referencing out of the newspaper databases that I have access to. (Of course, you can also add referencing too if you have access to suitable sources, but since not everybody does I'm willing to concentrate on that part if I can get assistance with the copy-paste part of the job.)

Any chance you'd be willing to help out with this? Bearcat (talk) 16:35, 19 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Almost all of the awards have had their exact wording of their name changed over the course of Genie Award history, but it would be incredibly silly to maintain separate lists for, frex, "Genie Award for Best Actor" vs. "Genie Award for Best Performance by an Actor in a Leading Role". So I'd say you did fine there — we should keep common unified lists based on the substantive function of the award, and then document name changes in that common list, rather than spinning off separate lists for every individual change of the award's name. Bearcat (talk) 17:42, 22 March 2014 (UTC)

Canada International Film Festival
Hi Shawn,

Thank you for letting me know about the tag you added to the Canada International Film Festival article. What do you think should be done to rectify the issue? Generally, notability concerns are addressed by deletion discussions. Do you plan on initiating such a discussion?

Neelix (talk) 21:23, 26 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Shawn,


 * Switching the tag to something more actionable sounds good to me. You may be right about this being a vanity festival. I can't vouch for the festival's reputability, but the range of news outlets represented among the article's sources suggests that notability isn't quite the concern. How about Template:Lead missing?


 * Neelix (talk) 01:44, 27 March 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi Shawn,


 * No, I don't see anything you're missing. I just don't see the point in tagging an article because of notability concerns; if the subject is not notable, then the article should be deleted; if the subject is notable, then the tag is unjustified. I would not be offended if you nominated the article for deletion. I think it should be kept simply because news outlets mention the related awards so often, although I would feel more comfortable with the article if we could find a source calling the festival a vanity festival or similar. What would you like to see happen with the article?


 * Neelix (talk) 02:12, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

Gods Lake Narrows
I suppose if the film is titled "God's" with the apostrophe I should leave it alone, but according to the Canadian Oxford Dictionary, the place name actually has no apostrophe. You'd think the videographer would have checked that! Willow Greenberg (talk) 20:28, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Please Stop Bothering Me on My Talk Page and Stop Following Me
Hello, I'm Nynewart. Although everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia, it's important to be mindful of the feelings of your fellow editors, who may be frustrated by certain types of interaction. While you probably didn't intend any offense, please do remember that Wikipedia strives to be an inclusive atmosphere. In light of that, it would be greatly appreciated if you could moderate yourself so as not to offend. It has is clear that you're following me around Wikipedia, often on pages that you are not involved in as an editor. You just apologized today on my personal Talk page for your your previous "rude" and "aggressive" behavior. You congratulated me for not letting your bad behavior stop me from editing. Then you began again trying to bait me into more conflict. I have been polite to you in the face of your, self-admitted bad "tone". I even accepted your apology. But now, I must kindly ask that you to simply leave me alone. I am here to contribute to the improvement of content, not to continually be forced to respond to you WP:HOUNDING can result in one getting blocked, if it continues and if the intention is to harass other users.''  Nynewart (talk) 00:58, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. Okay. This is getting weird. Sure, whatever. Just stop following me on wikipedia. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 01:00, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

Ananny
I refactored Sockpuppet investigations/Ananny here to combine two sets of duplicated reports (one original by you duplicated by another editor, and one by another editor duplicated by you). Meters (talk) 04:40, 18 April 2014 (UTC)

Cfd
Added a potential rename target per an existing structure. Thought you would like to know as you specifically asked : ) - jc37 23:21, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Categories_for_discussion/Log/2014_March_25

Because you thanked me...
18:21, 29 April 2014 (UTC)

Colin Low (filmmaker)
Hi Shawn in Montreal,

You're a busy guy, but, sometimes "thou doth protest too much" ;-)

My use of "2001" is not over-linking, as you stated. It reads like the contribution was made in the year 2001; not to the film 2001. That is why I changed it. And threats of declaring vandalism because you don't "get your way" is antagonistic.
 * If you want me to be antagonistic, keep up the insults. You didn't just spell out the full name of the film, you linked to it. Even though it was linked in the sentence directly above: that is WP:OVERLINK. And would you please undo the mess you made of Simulated patient, per MOS:BOLD? Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:46, 30 April 2014 (UTC)

Topic ban proposal of JOttawa16
I have started a topic ban proposal of JOttawa16, at Administrators' noticeboard. JDDJS (talk) 03:24, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I was already aware of it, thanks. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 03:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

Peace offering
I have a strong feeling that I upset you about something a while back and was rude to you which probably left you thinking I'm an asshole. I recall that originally we were on really good terms and I expressed my approval of your work on the Canadian film list and short films and encouraged you. You probably remember what happened more than I do but I'd like to apologize for whatever was said and a chance to clear the air, especially as we clearly both share an interest in film.♦ Dr. Blofeld  20:11, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
 * I honestly have only the dimmest recollection of that, and I'm sure you did nothing wrong. No apology is necessary, my very best wishes, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 20:14, 22 May 2014 (UTC)

Category:Colored Conventions
See the close I did at the CFD for this category. I know it's not an ideal close, and I'm not altogether happy with it. I considered a re-listing with an updated status, but I think the close will allow you to proceed (if you wish to do so) with the least amount of confusion about what exactly is going on. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:12, 28 May 2014 (UTC)

Cat
Hi, I've begun removing a few from the category. A lot of remaining are OK but you might want to remove any more you disagree with. BTW as a film buff you might be interested in my User:Dr. Blofeld/Great films list. It's nowhere near the level it should be but overtime I hope to see most of the truly great world cinema films missing from it and probably remove some of the lesser greater films from it! Feel free to make suggestions on the talk page of it as I'm sure you can spot many great films missing! ♦ Dr. Blofeld  21:13, 21 June 2014 (UTC)