User talk:Sheldon Novick

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
This is to welcome you to Wikipedia and thank you for your contributions to the Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. article. Your work is appreciated by me and I'm sure will be by many other readers as well - all the more so given your level of expertise given the Justice, his life and career. Regards, Newyorkbrad 18:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the kind words. I am new to all this and not sure where and how to respond.  I suppose I should set up a user page? Sheldon Novick 13:41, 26 October 2006 (UTC) Sheldon

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Constitutional Monarchy
Editing out a non-existant link, and restoring a proper link isn't vandalism. Bo 19:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)

Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr. edits
I saw your notes. I believe I can merge the versions to pick up all the edits. I'm in meetings today but will get to it tonight or tomorrow morning.

With your participation, I'd like to see if we can bring this article to "featured article" status (meaning, among other things, that it would appear for a day on the Main Page). If this is of interest we should be thinking of additional topics to add and expand to be more comprehensive, in addition to copyediting the existing text. Of course, we can include everything in your book, though. :)

Also, could you kindly enable your "wikipedia e-mail" function? I would like to e-mail regarding a (non-Wiki) project I'm working on that may be of interest. (Don't post an e-mail address here or you risk being spammed to death.) Regards, Newyorkbrad 15:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Identity Politics
Hi there and thank you for your message about identity politics. However, I am puzzled as to exactly why the page was reverted back to a version which is much smaller in scope and less comprehensive than the page I had edited. The current page has completely removed the headings "criticism from the right" "criticism from the center" and "criticism from the left" and merely has one short "overview" which only briefly deals with criticisms of identity politics. For example, the criticism that identity politics contains essentialising tendencies has been completely removed, but this is a theme many see as fundamental to the debate. Explaining alternative views and debates surrounding a topic is not in violation of wikipedia's NPOV policy, which states:

''The neutral point of view is a means of dealing with conflicting views. The policy requires that, where there are or have been conflicting views, these should be presented fairly. None of the views should be given undue weight or asserted as being the truth, and all significant published points of view are to be presented, not just the most popular one. .. As the name suggests, the neutral point of view is a point of view, not the absence or elimination of viewpoints. . . Debates are described, represented, and characterized, but not engaged in.''

I have changed the page back to my version. If you still think there is undue duplication of material or errors, please feel free to edit (you seem to be able to spot original original research better than me). But if you do edit, perhaps do it a bit less exuberantly. At the very least, it seems sensible to me to have an overview and then criticism of identity politics under separate headings.

Feel free to message me back if you would like to discuss further.

Regards,

Edelmand 10:33, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
An article section and a list with appropriate links of published works would be a good addition. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 15:38, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * List of works Just a thought. This is more or less common in Wikipedia articles. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 15:51, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank You
Kind thanks to 7&6=thirteen and others who have given me encouragement. I have done what I have time for right now, and have doubts about the practicality of a list of Holmes's publications, perhaps the refs to the Collected Works can serve? Sheldon Novick 20:02, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Your additions were very helpful. The list of works at Wikisource is woefully inadequate. This is a project that will require some real time, and may have to wait for another day. You have done Yeoman's service.  I was not trying to be a WP:dick, but was trying to encourage you to put your knowledge and enthusiasm to good use. I figure its better to be collegial, cooperative and welcoming, and instead of bite the newbies. We need you here. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 20:11, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks again, took your suggestions in the spirit you intended, didn't mean to sound surly. I do plan to continue to update after long absence. Sheldon Novick 16:13, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * The only problem we had was that type does a poor job of conveying intent. You were not sounding surly, but I did not want to think that I was trying to nominate myself as your foreman.  We are all in this together, and I was erring on the side of caution.  Keep up the good work.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 16:18, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks also to NewYorkBrad (don't remember how to do these things properly) for copy edits of Speeches section. I reverted link Mark Anthony De Wolfe Howe (father) to Mark DeWolfe Howed (son). Fun to be back. . . . Sheldon Novick 16:25, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
 * In the article, if you click on "view history" you can click on "thank" next to an edit. Its good to give out kudos.
 * Unfortunately, we get a lot more kicks from pricks than we get strokes from folks. One of my pet peeves is that positive reinforcement is only little understood or used in Wikipedia, and this is (IMHO) a significant reason why editor retention is lagging. A little help and positive reinforcement goes a long way. Editing can be a lonely job. <b style="color:#060">7&amp;6=thirteen</b> (<b style="color:#000">☎</b>) 16:37, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

March 2014
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