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AfC notification: Draft:Yao Chen (singer) has a new comment
 I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Yao Chen (singer). Thanks! Vanderwaalforces (talk) 07:54, 10 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello @Vanderwaalforces, Yao Chen date of birth can be viewed in the official website page https://yaochen.jype.com/Default/Profile Can we use the official website as a reference source? Shenaall (talk) 01:25, 13 November 2023 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Yao Chen (singer) (November 10)
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Your submission at Articles for creation: Hwang Hyun-jin (January 13)
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AfC notification: Draft:Kim Seung-min has a new comment
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Welcome to the drive!
Welcome, welcome, welcome Shenaall! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles. CactiStaccingCrane (talk)18:55, 1 February 2024 UTC //en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Shenaall&action=purge refresh via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

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Your submission at Articles for creation: Kim Seung-min (March 9)
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K-Pop contributor (✍️•📚) 07:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

Your submission at Articles for creation: Hwang Hyun-jin (March 13)
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K-Pop contributor (✍️•📚) 09:54, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Draft:Kim seungmin
i just noticed you havent added about his solo song hold on ,i hope you will add here the refernce for it to add 1 K-Pop contributor  (✍️•📚) 16:38, 18 March 2024 (UTC)


 * @ K-Pop contributor Oops! You're right! Thank you for telling me and providing the source!^^ Shenaall (talk) 02:39, 19 March 2024 (UTC)
 * your welcome K-Pop contributor  (✍️•📚) 08:20, 19 March 2024 (UTC)

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Requesting Edit for Stray Kids Article
Hello! I am messaging on behalf of the global fanbase for Stray Kids. I'm not sure if you're the right person to try and contact about this, so let me know if it would be better to contact someone else!

We were approached about possibly changing the opening paragraph of the Stray Kids article, since we think it's leading to repeated mentions of irrelevant topics in news articles and reports.

Current: Stray Kids (Korean: 스트레이 키즈; RR: Seuteurei Kijeu; often abbreviated as SKZ) is a South Korean boy band formed by JYP Entertainment through the 2017 reality show of the same name. The group is composed of eight members: Bang Chan, Lee Know, Changbin, Hyunjin, Han, Felix, Seungmin, and I.N. Originally a nine-piece group, member Woojin left due to undisclosed personal reasons in October 2019.

Proposed Edit Options:

1. Simply remove the last sentence and don't replace it with anything, as it doesn't need to be mentioned in the opening abstract. This information is also provided in the sidebar, history section, and members section.

2. Replace the last sentence with something that highlights their composition and production credits, as this isn't mentioned thoroughly in the article. Basic suggestion provided below.

The group is credited for writing and producing the majority of their own music, as well as a few songs for JO1 and NiziU.

I hope some type of change is possible, and thank you for your hard work! Jenniferjinx (talk) 08:50, 7 May 2024 (UTC)


 * @Jenniferjinx Hello, I'm not sure if I can help much but I'll try my best to help.
 * Especially for number 1, we can not remove it from the sentence since the group was originally nine members. In the opening paragraph, we should define or identify the topic with a neutral point of view as per WP:OPEN. The similar request had been requested and replied by other user on Stray Kids talk page. Replacing it with other similar sentence can be implemented but need to be neutral as per WP:VOICE with reliable source provided. You can try to contact a more experienced editor for this but I think they'll say similar things...
 * For number 2, your suggestion can be implemented. I'll inform you when I've done some edits ^^ Shenaall (talk) 03:58, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Thank you so much! I honestly think Option 2 is better than Option 1, due to concern over censoring. Perhaps another possible change for the sentence could be to not mention the number:
 * Former member Woojin left due to undisclosed personal reasons in October 2019.
 * I checked a few other groups' pages, and they don't always mention the number, which could be a happy middle ground solution.
 * Examples:
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boyz_(South_Korean_band)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monsta_X
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AB6IX
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treasure_(band)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pixy_(group)
 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichillin%27
 * I do think even if this change is made, I do think it would be nice to add the sentence about their producing/composing, as I think it is core to their identity and isn't really mentioned elsewhere. Jenniferjinx (talk) 06:42, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
 * @Jenniferjinx Hello, I've edited the summary as you requested. What do you think? Is that good enough? Also I'm planning to expand the Artistry section as well to support the self-producing title in summary. You can see my outline thoughts in my project space, please inform me if you have more suggestion to include in that section. Shenaall (talk) 03:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Stray Kids article
Hi! I noticed you've been working on the article for Stray Kids, and while you've done a great job I'd like to inform you of one thing. While I was copyediting the artistry section, I noticed there were multiple sections very closely paraphrased (well, almost copied verbatim) from other sources. This is not okay on Wikipedia, as it causes copyright issues and is plagiarism. I cleaned up some of the issues I found, but let me point you to two examples from the previous version:


 * Wikipedia : Stray Kids' music is generally dark and experimental, which fuse elements of hip-hop, dubstep, heavy metal, electroclash and jittery dance-pop.
 * BBC: Stray Kids, in particular, have won an ardent fanbase for their dark and experimental albums, which fuse elements of hip-hop, dubstep, heavy metal, electro-clash and jittery dance pop.
 * Wikipedia : Their grungier headbanging anthems, which incorporate rock, EDM, and even industrial leanings, were initially criticized for being too noisy, eclectic, and too "construction music-y" but they embrace and use it as their weapon with the album Noeasy.
 * Time: The band’s grungier headbanging anthems, which incorporate rock, EDM, and even industrial leanings, were initially criticized for being too noisy and eclectic compared to their glossier K-pop contemporaries.

I see in your project subpage you have several sentences copied from other outlets (ex. one sentence about Thunderous copied from a Teen Vogue article)—you're probably just using them as reference, but that'll put your writing at risk of unoriginality (~copyright violations). There are ways to avoid close paraphrasing listed here, such as distancing yourself from the sources. I'll assume good faith since you seem not to have been notified about this before, but copyright violations are serious business here on Wikipedia.

Good day, Wuju Daisuki (talk) 03:58, 12 June 2024 (UTC)


 * @Wuju Daisuki Thank you for your reminder! It's true, I did not do much of re-paraphrasing for some sentences. I'm not an English native speaker so I was kind of troubled to find similar words that did not change the whole meaning, especially since this is my first time on expanding paragraph. I will be more careful in the future.
 * Also, for my project subpage is it okay to leave it like that? Or should I remove it to avoid copyright violation too? — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 04:28, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Stray Kids Artistry Page
Hello! I believe the old talk page for Stray Kids was archived, but I wanted to alert you that I am mostly finished proofreading the Artistry section. I have a bit more work to do in the performance subtopic. Please let me know if you have any questions, and thank you for your hard work! Your additions were very extensive and I am making only minor grammatical edits at this time. :) Archerblue (talk) 04:58, 14 June 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello @Archerblue, thank you for updating me about this! I checked it and noticed a possible typo on Noeasy wordplay part : "...the album title combines "no" and "easy" to mmean "not easy"..."
 * You might currently editing when I noticed this so I'm telling you instead of edit it myself to avoid edit-conflict. Thank you so much for your help with proofreading and copyediting! — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 06:28, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:List of songs produced by 3Racha
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request for more info about Draft:Something Rhymes with Purple
Hi Shenaall: Thanks for taking the time to review the draft I submitted for review. Although I have contributed

My primary intent for this page is to provide a catalog of episodes for the podcast, which I can not find anywhere else in an easy-to-read, easy-to-search format. Is that permitted in wikipedia?

I purposely did not add the 'Catalog of Episodes' section to the draft page: I thought I would start very small and simple, then add the episode list once the page is published. Is that commonly accepted practice? Should I have included the episode catalog in the draft from the outset?

I also provided no more context or explanation about the podcast, taking to heart the dictum I have read in multiple locations not to make wikipedia pages promotional, and keeping in mind that the primary purpose of the page would be to hold a catalog of episodes rather than provide info about the podcast itself. Is that unacceptable? Rbd001 (talk) 22:56, 8 July 2024 (UTC)


 * Hello @Rbd001 I think it is better to add more context with reliable source to prove that the subject of the article is notable enough for its own article page. Currently your draft did not have a sufficient context. You may add the Catalog of Episode section for more context but if the subject of the article did not satisfy the Notability your draft may be declined. The context that added to the draft article must be written from a neutral point of view (NPOV). If you only make the catalogue of the episode while there is no article about the podcast, then the podcast will be seen as non-notable for an individual article therefore the catalogue of the podcast's episode also be seen as non-notable. This may result your article get deleted through WP:AFD even if it's survive WP:AFC. You should make sure the podcast notable enough before making the article about it's episode.
 * Maybe there is an exception if one of the episode of the podcast were more popular then the podcast itself. If so, please consider adding the reference about it. Hope my explanation helps you, please ask more question if you don't understand something. I'll try my best to answer your question with some criteria / guidelines throughout the wikipedia. — Shenaall (t ♣ c) 02:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)