User talk:Sherlock502/Archive 1

Keke Palmer
FYI singer-songwriter def #1, def #2, def #3, def #4. Keke Palmer fits into none of them. Oran e  (talk)  06:43, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Okay. Explain why do you think that Keke Palmer does not fit into none of them? Sherlock502 (talk) 09:03, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I'm certain you may have misunderstood the context of singer-songwriters. If I were you, I would be careful about what you say. Next time you said she is into none of them, the next one is going to the administrator. Consider this a warning. Sherlock502 (talk) 09:17, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * For the record, I am an administrator, and I've been one for nearly 10 years now. But that's beside the point. And that "warning" you just issued to me is besides the point. Keke Palmer is a singer who has written some of her own songs. According the multiple sources I provided you, a "singer-songwriter" is different. It is a style of musicianship that is closely associated with a folk-rock movement that developed in the 1960. It's almost a genre within itself and there are many characteristics of such a singer and their material: they have to play an instrument (whether it be a guitar or a piano), their music is usually understated and dramatic (not the mainstream pop music you hear on the radio today), and they embody a more confessional, ultrapersonal style of songcraft. Johnny Cash, Bruce Springsteen, Buddy Holly etc. Those guys are traditional singer-songwriters. Regular music stars of today whose music is pop or R&B and they don't play instruments, and they don't align themselves with this more confessional tone in their songwriting, these aren't singer-songwriters. So Keke Palmer writes some of her songs. Fine: she is a "singer and songwriter", which means she does both. But she is not a singer-songwriter, because that is a genre within itself and totally different. Do I make sense? Oran e   (talk)  17:22, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * "Singer and songwriter": any genre, pop star, sings pop music, writer their own songs (Keke Palmer, Ciara)
 * "Singer-songwriter" (joined together with the dash): plays an instrument (usually piano or guitar), sings folk or folk-rock or folk-county song, political or personal lyrics, plays the instruments on stage by themselves without a band (Leonard Cohen, Johnny Cash). See the major difference? Oran e   (talk)  17:32, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * I have seen the difference, but that doesn't change the modern day definition of singer-songwriter because the truth is they can sing and write their own songs with and/or without the instruments. Doesn't matter if it's R&B music or rock music. Do you understand what I'm saying to you? Sherlock502 (talk) 20:37, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * They all mean the same thing. Get the picture? Sherlock502 (talk) 20:40, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Now leave the singer-songwriter definition difference alone please. You're just wasting your time. I'm not going to argue with you with the definition differences any longer. Sherlock502 (talk) 21:01, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

blocked
You've been blocked for a short while for being disruptive with your edits. You need to become more familiar with how Wikipedia operates. You need to find sources for the points you assert, or your edits constitute original research, which is a big no-no on Wikipedia. Also, there is no reason to go on an editing rampage and start changing the articles of every singer to prove your point. Oran e  (talk)  21:05, 8 February 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia
I want you to understand something when you have resumed editing. On Wikipedia, we run on consensus, which means that we have to collaborate and collectively agree on certain things. For that to happen, we must engage in discourse (i.e. have discussions) until we arrive at solutions. If you and I have disagreements, we have to talk for as long as it takes, to come to a compromise. And if more people needs to get involved, then that's even better. But you have to argue a point with valid, relevant reliable sources. And so far, you have not done that. You don't just dismiss someone's suggestions and carry on as if you don't care. That's not going to get you very far on Wikipedia. So when you have stopped being disruptive, and are ready to discuss this and have valid third-party sources, just shoot me a message. Thank you. Oran e  (talk)  05:58, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
 * Sure Journalist. I'll do that. Thanks for heads-up. Sherlock502 (talk) 09:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014
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Threatening another editor
Threatening another editor, such as you did in your edit summary on Person of Interest (TV series), is a blockable action. I've let Journalist know, and would strongly suggest that you learn how to resolve a conflict using the talk page rather than by making threats, or you will quickly find yourself indefinitely blocked from editing. --Drmargi (talk) 19:12, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Very well, but I didn't mean to hurt another editor nor making threats. I just want to do something right for the greater good. Sherlock502 (talk) 21:53, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Drmargi. You know there are three strikes around an editor doing any reckless actions. That is two strikes counted against me. If I do one more reckless action, I will be blocked for a long time right? Sherlock502 (talk) 22:06, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * It's not a question of strikes per se. You have a rather aggressive style, and tend to give other editors an ultimatum when they disagree with you.  I could have taken your edit summary to WP:ANI and you might have ended up with a significant, possibly indefinitely block for it alone.  You need to adopt a collaborative style, or your career at Wikipedia will be a short one, and your next block a long one.  --Drmargi (talk) 22:39, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the warning. I'll adapt to everything that you have suggested. I'm sure that I'll figure this all out. You don't have to worry about me. Sherlock502 (talk) 22:47, 2 March 2014 (UTC)